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RC Equipments => Batteries and Chargers => Topic started by: rcforall on August 22, 2009, 11:03:09 AM



Title: Series Charging Adapter for BC 6 charger
Post by: rcforall on August 22, 2009, 11:03:09 AM
Just  received and accessory to multiple charge 2 nos 11.1V batteries at the same time :
Product description

Twin pack charge lead (2 x 3S)6S
Designed for iMAX and GT-Power chargers (B6,B8,A8,A6).
This harness allows you to charge and balance 2 3S packs at full rate with the 6S port.
This is a great and simple way to charge two packs at once.

 Price : Rs 200 each


Title: Re: Series Charging Adapter for BC 6 charger
Post by: atul_pg on August 22, 2009, 11:28:15 AM
How abt G.T. Power A5 ? I think it can fit tat since it can fit A6..

Nice accessory , 200 + shipping ?

good day  :)


Title: Re: Series Charging Adapter for BC 6 charger
Post by: rcforall on August 22, 2009, 11:34:16 AM
Can the a 5 charge a 6S?
This is like charging 6 S
If yes then OK.
Sai


Title: Re: Series Charging Adapter for BC 6 charger
Post by: atul_pg on August 22, 2009, 11:51:10 AM
Can the a 5 charge a 6S?
This is like charging 6 S
If yes then OK.
Sai

The A5 cannot charge a 6s.. But i guess with this extension it just might..  ??? Not sure.. ;D



Title: Re: Series Charging Adapter for BC 6 charger
Post by: anwar on August 22, 2009, 12:15:53 PM
I use this all the time to charge two 3s packs for the 450 helis at the same time.

This definitely requires a 6s charger with a 6s balance port.


Title: Re: Series Charging Adapter for BC 6 charger
Post by: Rao on August 22, 2009, 06:14:23 PM
Dear Sai,
apart from the above mentioned adapter  don't  we need a battery connection adapter to connect the two battery packs in series and then connect it to the charger output port?

Rao.


Title: Re: Series Charging Adapter for BC 6 charger
Post by: anwar on August 22, 2009, 07:55:28 PM
Depends on the type of balance connector on the battery. The adaptor shown above can hold the balance connectors of the two 3s batteries, if the balance connector is of the Align type.  If it is the ThunderPower type, you will need a converter that changes it to the Align type (usually comes with the battery). 

The charging is done through the balance connectors alone. The main discharge ports of the batteries are not used in the charging process.


Title: Re: Series Charging Adapter for BC 6 charger
Post by: rcforall on August 24, 2009, 09:25:18 AM
Use of series charging adapter .
Note discharge leads of batteries are not connected to the charger .

Rgds
sai


Title: Re: Series Charging Adapter for BC 6 charger
Post by: saurabhhsrivastavaa on August 24, 2009, 10:30:02 AM
Guys,

Please ensure that you charge the same capacity batteries. i.e both the 3S batteries should be of the same capacity.

Cheers!!!


Title: Re: Series Charging Adapter for BC 6 charger
Post by: rcforall on August 24, 2009, 11:50:12 AM
I tried charging  a 2650 mah and 1800 mah at 2 amps charge rate and no problems with it.

sai


Title: Re: Series Charging Adapter for BC 6 charger
Post by: anwar on August 24, 2009, 01:36:59 PM
Don't see why packs of two different capacities cannot be charged together.  All the charger is doing is to charge and check if the individual cells are up to 4.2 volts each, and that is irrespective of the capacity of each cell.


Title: Re: Series Charging Adapter for BC 6 charger
Post by: RotorZone on August 24, 2009, 01:48:36 PM
Just because you didn't see any problems doesn't mean they don't exist. Not that it doesn't work, but there are a couple of things to be aware of while charging this way.

1. The balancer port in the charger can drain only low currents. So if one pack charges earlier than the other the charger will reduce the current to within the limit balancers can handle. This means longer charging time.

2. The balancer plugs are not designed for high current. Usually not a problem upto 1A or so. Above that the connector and the thin balancer wire could start heating up. The first(+ve terminal) and last(-ve) leads are the ones carrying the full charge current.

3. If you using high charge currents the resistance of the connector+thin wire will result in higher voltage drops across the first and last leads. This will cause the first and last cells to be charged a little less and thus imbalanced. However the difference will be small and almost unnoticeable in practice.


Title: Re: Series Charging Adapter for BC 6 charger
Post by: anwar on August 24, 2009, 01:59:17 PM
This is an issue which can largely be described as "is it OK to charge through a balance connector alone" (versus "can packs of different ratings be charged together using thing method").

In short, packs of say 850Mah and 1100mAh can be charged together (where the 1100mah *may* be pushing the limit, depending on the quality of balance connector wires).  The best efficiency (in terms of charging time) is when packs that are almost same size are charged together.  And it is safer if smaller packs are charged in this method.

Thank you Rajesh for highlighting the non-obvious issues. Typically charging through the balance connectors alone is not an issue up to around 2A, which is what I have seen most people do and I have been doing it myself all along.  For most chargers with 5A/50watts draw limit, you would not charge above 1.9A anyways for a 2 x 3s = 6s setup (even that is borderline, and is typically done at a lower rate).