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« on: October 18, 2012, 05:04:34 PM »
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Hello RCIndia,
This is my first post and I am very new to rc aviation and I have enjoyed going through a lot of posts on this forum today. I am an engineering student based in mumbai and I was always interested in building my own RC plane. To start it off I am planning to implement something like this:
Now I have a few doubts:
1) I believe the DC motor is a brushless DC motor, with ESC. Now What should be the rpm of the motor? And size of propellor? Should i purchase it off rc dhamaka? http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=100_93&products_id=760 Will this do? Ill need an ESC with it too right?
2) How does the controller work? From where should I purchase it? Which one? Can someone go into the technicality of its working, whats the different kinds available etc. How does it interconnect with the ESC and Servo motor in such a way that no microcontroller or anything is needed for interfacing? Basically Rx Tx Connections? And how the ESC is connected with the rx so that speed control is possible?
3) What kind of battery would I need? And of what power specifications?

Thanks in advance for the help, It is very surprising how there is such a huge community of RC fans still I dont find good documentation at the technical end to get me started, Your help will be great to get me started. Also as a beginner I have a very small budget and would prefer cost saving solutions, Specially in reference to controllers?
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2012, 05:57:56 PM »
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Look at the Beginners-start here link right a the top. There are lot of information relating to beginners. Please do the initial reading and ask specific questions

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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 05:58:29 PM »
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Welcome to RC (India) ! Smiley

You have done a good job of reading... read a bit more for answers to all your questions.

You must read the relevant posts in the "RC India Gems" threads :

http://www.rcindia.org/rc-india-forum/the-rc-india-gems/

Specifically, these :

http://www.rcindia.org/electric-power/understanding-electric-power-systems/
http://www.rcindia.org/electric-power/amp-rating-and-motor-size/
http://www.rcindia.org/rc-general-topics/re-glow-vs-electric/

That should answer most of your questions.  Regarding where to purchase, RCD is an obvious choice, and there are well reputed others too :

http://www.rcindia.org/rc-outlets-and-resellers/best-hobby-shop/ (see the poll).


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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2012, 07:04:46 PM »
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welcome to rc india aakashthakkar
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2012, 03:22:29 PM »
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Thank you for yours and everyone else great reply, That was very helpful.

I'd like to run you through what I have understood and where presently I am stuck at:

So basically I am going to be requiring the following components to make a complete RC Plane:

1) Brushless DC Motor - I am considering a motor that works on 3cell, 11.1V which is (http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=100_93&products_id=273) But now there is this one more motor: http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=100_93&products_id=760 which works on a 2cell battery but provides much higher revolutions and much higher kV for what I assume a higher current consumption? What should I choose?

2) The recommended propeller with that particular motor is 7"x6", 7" is a huge diameter which is very much bigger than my design, Maximum I could fit for my want of a slow plane is 4.1x4.1E (http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3_48_80&products_id=262)

3) The battery that I will require if 3cell is: http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=102_94&products_id=792
And 2 cell: http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=102_94&products_id=1083

Now as the 2 cell is more cheaper, Lighter I think that should be more suitable for my design right? What are the advantages of 3cell battery and motors, If the 7V motor can give a higher rpm?

4) An ESC to control the speed will be required to,
For 2cell: http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=100_95&products_id=392
For 3cell: http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=100_95&products_id=33
These are just assumptions, Because I dont really know how much current the motor will draw.

5) Transmitter-Reciever And Servo Motors to control flaps. Bang Head  Help Me



Doubts:

1) The current draw for the motors above mentioned nor is the wattage, Are not provided on the website, What is the method to find them? because the ESC I have selected are just assumptions.

2) My second doubt from original post, remains unanswered:
"How does the controller work? From where should I purchase it? Which one? Can someone go into the technicality of its working, whats the different kinds available etc. How does it interconnect with the ESC and Servo motor in such a way that no microcontroller or anything is needed for interfacing? Basically Rx Tx Connections? And how the ESC is connected with the rx so that speed control is possible?"

3) Would you recommend me the additional accessories I will require i physically making the plane, Foam I can get locally, How would you suggest I should design one? I see a lot of materials available on RC Dhamaka(Probably use carbon fibre rod for center chassis of plane?).

The controllers I find on the website are very expensive, While I have read up on net that cheap chinese ones are available. I assume I will buy a 3channel radio only.

Thanks a lot for your help, Hope to build this flyer this vacation and test it out:)
Sorry for so many doubts:)
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2012, 03:40:46 PM »
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i wud suggest hobby king in case u need to buy a lot of stuff....... ie. entire set of electronics....
this site is a real rc heaven.... DONT U DARE ORDER TX /RX.......
2.4GHZ tx is illegal in india.... customs will not allow......
for that u can go for sites in india

this will help u choose ur motor/ electonics : (reply 4)

http://www.rcindia.org/electric-power/2200kv(7-4v)-max-power-342w-motor-goes-with-what-ecs-and-lipo-to-use/msg121466/#msg121466

hobbyking
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__57__191__Planes_ARF_RTF_KIT-All_Models.html

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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2012, 03:57:17 PM »
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do more research....... calmly.... u wont need mch of technical knowledge....... even u have it its good .....but keep it side for now....... things r pretty simple in RC world....... (i am a medical student  Giggle Giggle) but still cud manage it
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2012, 04:06:04 PM »
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additional accessories..... ya sure......

1 propelers..... (many wud break)
2 propsavers....
3 hot glue gun (hardware shop)
4 try a radio that is simulator compatible..... like turnigy 9ch (hobbyking 6ch) is also gud option ..... just need how to fly safe way..... its not that simple...
5 advisable to buy extra servos..... chinese are cheap but can break

call me incase 9766224790

ps... dont waste money on simulators..... free simulators r there over net....like ...... FMS

PS read more
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2012, 05:45:57 PM »
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One more piece of advice .. do not be in hurry to buy parts....... first decide what you are going to make.....
firstly plan small plane 30-40" wing span. pusher are much safer against crashes. Do keep browsing Hobbyking.com while you read you will get queries read the reviews you will get most of answers..... select a plane get the plans decide on the electronics then buy. otherwise you will end up with useless stuff.
For very initial experience try Leo RC simulator on android phone.... it will let u understand some basics...

Happy reading.....
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