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« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2011, 09:37:50 PM »
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From what I can see in the pic (016), the dihedral angle is more than required for an efficient wing.
Dihedral angle should be between 3o to 5o. Too much dihedral results in less lift.

@maserati, maybe you should go through a couple of articles on aerodynamics and model-airplane building; that would save you both time and effort.
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« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2011, 09:48:13 PM »
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when I am sober my heli is drunk..



Good to see yet another aeromdeller in the circuit, just check if your wings are balanced. I see excessive duct tape on one side.
Just my 2 cents!
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« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2011, 10:17:31 PM »
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thank you all for your replies......
im a beginner, i just want to mke this thing perfect so that it flies.it will give me confidence so that next time im able to design a better one.
pl let me know the substitute of costly rear landing wheel...
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« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2011, 10:53:49 PM »
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when I am sober my heli is drunk..



try a DIY landing gear,
Attaching a picture for you to get an idea!
Things you will need include a plastic plate, a spare wheel and superglue.

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« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2011, 03:59:43 PM »
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THANKS for ur reply....it will surely help me..
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« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2011, 05:58:03 PM »
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Hi,

Attached is the picture of Cessna foam wing which is almost brand new.

It is having aileron function to make your plane 4 ch.

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« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2011, 07:30:13 PM »
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Friends..its a great article...helped a lots...thank you all..
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« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2011, 12:25:08 AM »
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also can anyone let me knw whether i can get a readymade wing from anywhere?
thanks
Hey, looks like rcelectro.com now offers custom laser cutting service! Maybe you can get a readymade wing from them.
Check it out here:
http://www.rcelectro.com/
 
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« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2011, 12:30:18 PM »
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thanks for your help.....
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« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2011, 01:09:25 PM »
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Swapnil..i tried to many links got from our forum to get a ARF kit for a plane..but i couldnt find a way to purchase..will you give me some idea to buy some materials from any outlets..is that due to my basic internet connection..?will you help me once...?
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« Reply #35 on: July 22, 2011, 03:16:08 PM »
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hi,

check the post under sellers

Most popular / best price is  www.hobbyking.com in hongkong.

or leadershobby or www.ebay.com

there are many indian retailers also check the head
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« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2011, 03:23:21 PM »
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thank you Sir..as i do not have any credit card..looking for an option off India is not an option...so i tried to make some orders in Indian sights..but no one is responding...oh..no...
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« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2011, 05:06:27 PM »
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Roopesh sir, I haven't purchased an ARF kit yet from any Indian shop. But I have purchased electronics and building materials from RCDhamaka, RCelectro, rchobbyaddict, rcforall etc and I can help you with that. If you need help buying an ARF kit you'll have to ask a senior (say Augustine sir).
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« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2011, 06:32:28 PM »
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Thank you Swapnil..i will contact some seniors, just Augestine Sir, or VC Sir once to clear my doubt..thanks for the advice..
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« Reply #39 on: July 24, 2011, 08:46:29 PM »
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Like mentioned on the field today....

1) The wing is too soft. If you hold up the wings from tips it nearly fold up. So some serious stiffeners are required
2) The dimension of the tail fins are too small compared to the wing area - keep it at 20% of wing area
3) Battery is too big for this bird. Should not be more than 1000mAH
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« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2011, 04:15:28 PM »
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You are wasting your time on this bird. Scrap it. Build it from a plan, whole lot of'em on the net. Once you gain confidence inflying and building go for self design. Hopefully by then you'll understand stuff. Sorry to break it you, brutally
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« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2011, 08:42:03 PM »
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sir ,thank you for your reply..i will definitely do so..
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« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2011, 09:13:28 PM »
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With all due apologies to Gusty:

Once upon a time, a poor Bumble Bee, who could not afford to go to school, was happily buzzing around doing whatever the bees and birds do. He sees a curious group of children staring at him, they were students from a nearby school. He asked them if anything was the matter. They gasped in astonishment, "What a surprise Bumble Bee, you can fly!"

Bumble bee was taken aback, "What is so surprising about that?"

The students hemmed and hawed, till one little boy spoke up and said, "Well you see, our Physics teacher told us that your body was too fat, you weighed too much, your wings were too small and couldn't provide any lift to your overweight body. In fact, he told us, it would be IMPOSSIBLE for you to fly by all the laws of Aerodynamics!"

Bumble bee smiled and replied, "Thank God, I never went to school, or else I would have been WALKING up and down wondering why God gave me wings in the first place. I would have never TRIED to FLY."

Maserati, Augustinev Bow is a champion aeromodeller and a crack fighter pilot. While I think you should heed his advice very strongly, I also feel that you should definitely go ahead and give this baby one try before tossing her away.

Or else, you will wonder all your life, "Was I that wrong? Could she have flown - just a little bit?"

The best way is to FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF.

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« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2011, 09:22:25 PM »
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sir thaks for boosting my moral.. Smiley Smiley
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« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2011, 09:26:18 PM »
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Masseratti..fixing a tail wheel on to an aircraft is not a serious issue...buy a simple Chinese toy car, with soft plastic wheel,that you can find in many type and sizes, costs around 10, or 20 Rupees, and remove one of the wheel, and buy some steel wire, used to bind umbrella hubs, can get from good hardware shop, will be thinner but strong. you can fix this wheel, by making an angle at the tip of the wire, and can fix the wheel by adding two simple piece of ball pen reffil with epoxy.fix other end on a piece of soft wood and glue to the fuselage.
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VC, I have seen this bird and I'll go with augustinev.
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« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2011, 10:23:11 PM »
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I would agree with you. All I am saying is give this bloke a chance. Atleast guide him on what the dimensions should be. If the Horizontal stab area has to be increased  - tell him by how much. If the bird needs a bigger tail, how much? If the distance between the TE of the wing and the LE of the Horiz Stab is too big, how much should it be?

I wish I was confident of my knowledge, I would have called him up and helped him. That is what I am sad about today.
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masarati, with due respect to all the others who is trying to help you, I have seen a guy flying a plane made similar to yours but with a wing made of soft form wrapped in insulation tape. At first I thought the guy is a joke, but realized my mistake once I saw it flying. But in his case, the wing was sturdy and had an airfoil shape. I suggest you to reconsider a more appropriate material (foam, corugated plastic, etc.) and you could try an under cambered wing to make it weigh less. You definitely have to reconsider the size of your horizontal stab as its too small. All the best man... keep going Smiley
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All that I am saying is that sometimes, our eyes and our natural instincts get fooled due to the inputs from our brain and our acquired knowledge. If these can fly, then maybe Maserati’s bird can fly too – at the very least it looks like an aeroplane!


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« Reply #49 on: July 25, 2011, 11:19:24 PM »
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thank you once again sir for your ur kind support......
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