RC India
Welcome Guest, please login or register.
 
Pages: [1]   Go Down
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. Topic Tools Topic Tools 
Read
« on: February 01, 2017, 07:54:50 PM »
mayur22
Heli Lover
Active Member
**

Reputation Power: 1 
mayur22 has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: panaji
State: Goa
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 15
Join Date: Feb, 2017




Hi! I am beginner to the quad copters and recently built a quad with kk2.1.5 flight controller, f450 frame ,30A ESCs ,10 inch props and 1000kv cheap motors . After assembling I tested it for first time, at the time of lifting it flipped and crashed. Then I calibrated ESCs and calibrated all sensors and tested it again, but this time it got lifted up properly but started wobbling and crashed again. Then I tried tuning PI gains but this did not affect its wobbling. To overcome wobbling I replaced all my 4 motors with 920kv DJI phantom T-motors and 9 inch propellers and ESCs. Now again after testing, it had the same problem of wobbling and crashing. After that I flashed the kk2.1 from 1.19 to 1.17 and again tried it to fly but it shows the same problem. Now I am not able to figure out exact problem in this case,

I request to guide me urgently to overcome this problem .
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2017, 09:10:07 PM »
kiran rc
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 21 
kiran rc barely matters.kiran rc barely matters.
Offline Offline

City: Bangalore
State: Karnataka
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 1260
Join Date: Feb, 2013

Live your dream and wear your passion



Seems like problem with the gyroscope. Did you activate self level? Also go to settings》gyro bubble 》Check if the dot moves x and y axis.
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2017, 09:28:19 PM »
mayur22
Heli Lover
Active Member
**

Reputation Power: 1 
mayur22 has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: panaji
State: Goa
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 15
Join Date: Feb, 2017



It wobbles in both self level and acro, dot moves in both the axis but it's not at the centre. What should I do?
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2017, 09:31:03 PM »
kiran rc
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 21 
kiran rc barely matters.kiran rc barely matters.
Offline Offline

City: Bangalore
State: Karnataka
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 1260
Join Date: Feb, 2013

Live your dream and wear your passion



Are the values of acc calibration 'OK'. Any errors during calibration?
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2017, 09:38:13 PM »
kiran rc
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 21 
kiran rc barely matters.kiran rc barely matters.
Offline Offline

City: Bangalore
State: Karnataka
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 1260
Join Date: Feb, 2013

Live your dream and wear your passion



It wobbles in both self level and acro, dot moves in both the axis but it's not at the centre. What should I do?
You must place the FC on a level surface while calibrating the acclerometer.
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2017, 09:39:15 PM »
mayur22
Heli Lover
Active Member
**

Reputation Power: 1 
mayur22 has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: panaji
State: Goa
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 15
Join Date: Feb, 2017



Yes acc is fine. Seems like problem with gyro, gyro bubble is not at the centre.
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2017, 09:44:32 PM »
kiran rc
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 21 
kiran rc barely matters.kiran rc barely matters.
Offline Offline

City: Bangalore
State: Karnataka
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 1260
Join Date: Feb, 2013

Live your dream and wear your passion



However,the non centering of gyro shouldn't make it wobble, rather tilt it slight towards one direction in flight. Still I suspect a bad mpu6050.
Does it flip during flight?
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2017, 09:50:17 PM »
mayur22
Heli Lover
Active Member
**

Reputation Power: 1 
mayur22 has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: panaji
State: Goa
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 15
Join Date: Feb, 2017



What may be the other reasons for quad's bad wobble?
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2017, 09:53:29 PM »
kiran rc
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 21 
kiran rc barely matters.kiran rc barely matters.
Offline Offline

City: Bangalore
State: Karnataka
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 1260
Join Date: Feb, 2013

Live your dream and wear your passion



Vibrations can be another cause. Try damping the board.
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2017, 09:55:34 PM »
mayur22
Heli Lover
Active Member
**

Reputation Power: 1 
mayur22 has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: panaji
State: Goa
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 15
Join Date: Feb, 2017



Flip means, At the time of flying soon after lifting up it wobbles badly and turns up side down and crashes.
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2017, 10:02:30 PM »
kiran rc
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 21 
kiran rc barely matters.kiran rc barely matters.
Offline Offline

City: Bangalore
State: Karnataka
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 1260
Join Date: Feb, 2013

Live your dream and wear your passion



Are you able to move/control the quad in air? Or does it flip just after taking of straight in air. If it flips on takeoff, check you prop and FC orientation.
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2017, 10:08:28 PM »
mayur22
Heli Lover
Active Member
**

Reputation Power: 1 
mayur22 has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: panaji
State: Goa
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 15
Join Date: Feb, 2017



No that may not be the problem. Yes it reacts to the controls, All props are attached correctly.
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2017, 10:15:18 PM »
mayur22
Heli Lover
Active Member
**

Reputation Power: 1 
mayur22 has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: panaji
State: Goa
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 15
Join Date: Feb, 2017



If you don't mind and  if your using whats app can you just send me your contact number so that I can send you the video of my Quad.
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2017, 10:46:48 PM »
kiran rc
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 21 
kiran rc barely matters.kiran rc barely matters.
Offline Offline

City: Bangalore
State: Karnataka
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 1260
Join Date: Feb, 2013

Live your dream and wear your passion



If you don't mind and  if your using whats app can you just send me your contact number so that I can send you the video of my Quad.
Yes I can but it'll be better to link through youtube, others can also help you regarding the issue. Just post a short video.
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2017, 11:01:15 PM »
arorasoham9
Plane Lover
Forum Veteran
****

Reputation Power: 5 
arorasoham9 has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: noida
State: Uttar Pradesh
RC Skills: Advanced
Posts: 320
Join Date: Mar, 2016



I had the same issue with my kk2 mini board ...try to factory reset the board
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2017, 08:40:42 AM »
mayur22
Heli Lover
Active Member
**

Reputation Power: 1 
mayur22 has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: panaji
State: Goa
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 15
Join Date: Feb, 2017



Yea I have posted my video on youtube.
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2017, 03:16:35 AM »
harsha
Plane Lover
Senior Member
***

Reputation Power: 3 
harsha has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Arlington
State: OUTSIDE INDIA
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 178
Join Date: Dec, 2010



I had the same issue when I was doing my quad with the first KK board's. It's very hard to adjust the settings on this board.
Here are few things that you should verify.

1. Check the motors are connected as suggested direction. For example https://rcexplorer.se/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/motorsquadx.jpg
2. Check if you are using the right props (CW/CCW as per the suggested motor-prop setup
3.Try to put a dampening pad under the KK board as the vibrations of the quad during take off might effect the flight stability
4.I also used the throttle trim function and adjusting the GAIN values.

There is also lot of other quad forums where you can try to find similar kind of problems associated with KK Board Quad setup.

Also, try to use some kind of stands for the quad instead of using the bouncy balls. The problem with those balls is that, when one of the motor puts a little more pressure than rest of the three and when it tries to take off, it might cause unnecessary reaction force which causes the bouncy behaviour. However, its just a factor.

Good luck.
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2017, 10:27:23 AM »
Rathi
Plane Lover
Senior Member
***

Reputation Power: 2 
Rathi has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Banglore
State: Karnataka
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 166
Join Date: Feb, 2016



1. calibrate ESC's
2. tune PID
Logged

Bolt 210
QJreaper 6"
taranis 9XD+
its either FPV or nothing.
 

Read
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2017, 05:24:20 AM »
raghil07
Heli Lover
Active Member

**

Reputation Power: 2 
raghil07 has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Delhi
State: Delhi
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 73
Join Date: May, 2016



Hi! I am beginner to the quad copters and recently built a quad with kk2.1.5 flight controller, f450 frame ,30A ESCs ,10 inch props and 1000kv cheap motors . After assembling I tested it for first time, at the time of lifting it flipped and crashed. Then I calibrated ESCs and calibrated all sensors and tested it again, but this time it got lifted up properly but started wobbling and crashed again. Then I tried tuning PI gains but this did not affect its wobbling. To overcome wobbling I replaced all my 4 motors with 920kv DJI phantom T-motors and 9 inch propellers and ESCs. Now again after testing, it had the same problem of wobbling and crashing. After that I flashed the kk2.1 from 1.19 to 1.17 and again tried it to fly but it shows the same problem. Now I am not able to figure out exact problem in this case,

I request to guide me urgently to overcome this problem .
try with some other fc its not the motor or esc,if you already tried by lowering the values on pid still no change then get another fc
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2017, 08:01:00 PM »
desachristopher
Boat Lover
Senior Member

***

Reputation Power: 3 
desachristopher has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Cortalim
State: Goa
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 195
Join Date: May, 2012



forget everything and just do a good Propeller Balancing. and ur good to go. It happened to me also. I did everything but no result. finally I did the prop balancing and it worked out smooth and stable. if you dont know how to balance , check on youtube. ur from Goa. me too.
Logged
 

Pages: [1]   Go Up
Jump to:  

Related Topics
Subject Started by Replies Views Last post
Quad-13 (A Beginners Quad-copter)
Multirotors
karan.k 1 3968 Last post October 06, 2013, 02:08:55 AM
by aniket210696
need a quad copter
Wanted
devaraj harsha 8 3419 Last post June 13, 2014, 07:32:25 PM
by uj victor
Help on quad copter « 1 2  All »
Multirotors
jeet8066 41 16736 Last post May 13, 2015, 09:27:18 PM
by jeet8066
quad copter fr 11k
Multirotors
balucool 15 7775 Last post March 12, 2016, 09:43:16 AM
by manu
Quad copter fr 11k
For Sale
balucool 1 1327 Last post February 17, 2016, 09:14:39 AM
by satz flying