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« on: January 15, 2010, 05:56:20 PM »
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HI GUYS,
this is the launch/cruiser
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/dondecap/powerboat.jpg
Anteres cabin cruiser 2 - SCRATCH BUILD

Not in competion, just a 'same build' sequence...
we may do things differently to this model.
eg........ I am using 'light ply' for the complete build.
for cutting I always make a copy of plans and then cut out the shapes and paste to wood for cutting.............
I find this to be one less step for mistakes.
here are my frames ready to be cut out of a sheet of 1/8th ply.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/dondecap/frames.jpg
Anteres cabin cruiser 2 - SCRATCH BUILD

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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2010, 08:30:20 PM »
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hi guys,
here are the frames basic cut out,
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/dondecap/cutframes.jpg
Anteres cabin cruiser 2 - SCRATCH BUILD

 now to sand and cut out some more stringer slots and internal hollows
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2010, 08:40:24 AM »
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Don,

Welcome to the forum and there is absolutely no question of competition! It's good to have you here. I was floundering about on my own trying to generate interest about boats and ships.

Your boat seems to be shaping up nicely. Mine is on hold as I have been under tremendous work pressure these last few weeks. Now that you are around, I think I will resurrect it! Also, my Dremel should arrive in a couple of days. You take the lead, I'll follow.............


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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2010, 02:29:00 PM »
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hi vc
be good to show different aproaches to the same task..........
on reading more in the forum I think 11.1 volt motors may be too much for this babby..........so may have to use brushed instead of brushless,
I have 170, and 380 size which may well be good and then 400 brushless................... all ex aircraft and heli motors hahaha
ever seen a 200 mph cruiser?Huh?Huh?Grin
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Hee Hee! Have you seen the very basic tools that I am using to build this baby?  Bang HeadGiggle Am sure you are using 'propah' modelling hardware! (A bad workman always blames his tools!) Also the wood that I am using is not Balsa but Indian Silk Cotton Tree wood. About twice as heavy as balsa.

Just waiting for my Dremel to arrive on Monday Drool!

First let me get her ready and trimmed, then I will worry about the power plant. Whatever it is, I will be using a brushed motor.

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hi vc

Hee Hee! Have you seen the very basic tools that I am using to build this baby?

the more you got the more there is to blame  Grin Grin Grin Violent
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Don,

Seeing that you are based in the UK, and possibly have more expsure to like minded people (Boat / Ship modellers), would it be possible for you to share some Destroyer / Frigate plans with us?

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hi mate.
 I will look and see, but when I built my battleship KGV 1/200 scale (4ft) I ended up sending to poland for the plans,
 today seems very ££ oriantated and free plans are few and far between............. plus not many 'scale' modelers aboutnow, more so in USA.
here its like fast racing everything, cars, boats etc
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hi vc
here are a couple of web links worth looking at
as for plans.
the one I am doing is a fairly standard hull shape..if made longer at the 'mid' ship section and of coarse deeper all along with the stern rounded instead of flat it woud be very close to a 'big ship' shape.
I will coppy the bulkhead plan of my battleship and you will see the general shape for destroyer you need the same side view as the cruiser I am building  - in a longer deeper form obviousely - higher front and lower midship and stern was the basic shape of ww11 brit/usa destroyer .
http://www.cv6.org/remember/modeling.htm
http://www.badshipmodels.com/
http://www.modelshipbuilding.com/catalogue.html
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/model-boat%2Fship-1:24-scale-plans---PT-109-TORPEDO-BOAT_W0QQitemZ310178392238QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxq20091031?IMSfp=TL091031168001r11237
a lot of the detail for my batle ship I had to work from pictures
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hi vc
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/dondecap/key.jpg
Anteres cabin cruiser 2 - SCRATCH BUILD

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/dondecap/maincover.jpg
Anteres cabin cruiser 2 - SCRATCH BUILD

these two I had to hand,
what I had to do was buy a 'cardboard' model and then use the book of parts as a template for the model I was building. it worked QUITE WELL same as buying plans but more hard waring, you can cut the pieces out and use them as paterns or build the boat as a static model with the card plans
it was under £20 but 4 years ago now. here is the site, this type of plan is the easiest to get.
http://www.gpm.pl/eng/index.php
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Just realised that in my exuberance, I almost hijacked your original Antares thread. Lets take this discussion somewhere else. Administrator, can you please accomodate this and the previous 4 posts to a new thread entitled "Ship Models" or something? Ofcourse only if Don agrees. This thread can remain exclusive for Don's Antares build.

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hi guys
 yes could be informative thread on its own.

here is a card plan for destroyer cheap
http://www.gpm.pl/eng/index.php?akcja=produkt&edycja=3246
just use the card as templates for you wood frames etc and hollow out acording to where the motor and battery etc go.
could the mods move these posts to a new thread say   model plans etc?
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well here is a slight update.
this will not be a quick build as I am back at work now.......... but so far..........
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh268/dondecap/15inelectriclaunch.jpg
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progress so far
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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2010, 12:46:40 AM »
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Hey Sunk..Nice to hear from my city..hehe..bristol rocks..yeah..

looking good..nice build...looking forward to seeing that in the water soon..

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hi Atul,
how you goin mate? the new venture all ok?
I have put a 'flat transom'  on instead of one with a bottom edge curve and a forward slope towards the top,
I am thinking this will put the rudder and prop nearer the stern [very little] but should help with power and steerage ? its nearly 1/4 inch furthar foreward at the bottom so this may make a difference to the pull/push up/down on the stern at power changes?
time will tell.
Also still deciding whether to 'plank' it ......as per drawings......... or sheet cover it....... cheaper and 'possibly' more robust for a cheap build.
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don mate..tats a nice build...

everything's fine,thanks...sorry cant comment much on the build but sheet cover makes sense I guess...

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"Also still deciding whether to 'plank' it ......as per drawings......... or sheet cover it......"

That's EXACTLY where I have been floundering for the last 3 months. Superstructure almost complete, Hull Skeleton in place, Electrics acquired. Just need the guts to go ahead and start work on the hull.
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hi vc
sheet is cheaper and easier to waterproof..............less joins....
I found with mine the drawings for the 'frames' are something to be desired in acuracy.....once assembled there is not a very good line anywhere on the vessel.....thats cutting and sanding to the exact cut lines.......I find there is up to 2+mm  [-1/8in] deviation from a smooth line mainly at the bottom corner...bottom to sides... for the complete length so I will prob build this up with thin card layer.............put a cotton line from the bottom corner of transom to the bow following the bottom edge of sides and this will showup any wrongs befor you try to  'sheet' or 'plank' it.......
If you have a 2mm thick spar longenough this will show up any faults in the frames outer alignment for a smooth line.
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Don my friend,

The Hull Skeleton in my case has / had suffered from far larger imperfections and didn't need a cotton thread test to show up!  :giggle:I had thought of the same approach of rectification/repair, but used balsa scraps to rectify the chinks. Card would've certainly been a better idea, now that you say it.

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hi vc.
nah if you got 'balsa' then that is easier to 'sand' back to 'proper' profil. Thumbs Up
PHEW.......... for a while I thought it was me not being carefull enough..  Head Scratching........... but on checking the templates are 'out' somewhat.
prob due to being 'recopied' from  'copies' instead of a 'master' drawing.
after all this is a '40+year old' drawing hahaha :-)
I have a 180 motor and controler.......but..................what prop do 'you' propose to use Huh?
I was thinking flex shaft  Huh? perhaps......no alignment probs then  Grin
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 Grin
gettin old.............
Iwill be using an ex heli 4ch 2.4gig tx/rx/ its an esky one so it will be interesting to see if it suffers the same as spectum......... not too good for boats .. where as my futaba would be ok but................£70 for the rx.. Undecided..... nah wont use that then........be more than the model..... Giggle

does/did you 'stern bottom' have a slight hollow at the piont the shaft emerges  Huh? and did you alter this or leave it........ Huh?
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hi vc
will you be going on the 'DIGHOLI PUKHURI' with your model? or is that not allowed  Huh?
looks a bit big!!!!!!
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Ho Ho Ho! How did you get to know about Digholi Pukhuri?Huh?? Head Scratching Googled it or do you have some friends from Guwahati? I do most of my sailing there, as a matter of fact!

Digholi Pukhuri is a big place, enough for 500 Antares Cabin Cruisers! But seriously, how did you know about Digholi Pukhuri?

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hi vc
 yes googled your home town and looked with satalite map,. not too many 'water holes' eh  Huh?
The river is prob too fast running eh  Huh?
that lake looks 'a huge size' compared to the one I have localy  Smiley.
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Well Done Mate!  Thumbs Up Clap Thumbs Up Clap Thumbs Up Clap Thumbs Up The river, Brahmaputra, is fast at the best of times.  During the monsoons, he is furious! This pond / water body (Digholi Pukhuri) is just perfect for us modellers. I say "us" but afaik, there is only one boat modeller (that I know of) in the whole of Guwahati/Assam/North East India - and that is Me! Boo hoo hoo!
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