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Title: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on February 24, 2013, 12:50:46 AM
Following the legendary Keil Kraft Eezebilt plans for a Royal Air Force Crash Tender boat from the 1950's.. Plans exploded to 130%. Trying to build it completely out of Foam Board.

Completed model should be around 27" in length. Using foam board for the construction.

The last photo illustrates what my withdrawing room looks like now. :banghead: I have to clean up this mess before I sleep tonight, or else, the missus won't be too happy in the morning.


Title: Re: Scratch from Plan built RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on February 24, 2013, 01:01:57 AM
This is what I am aiming for.

All pictures courtesy www.http://eezebilt.hobby-site.com

Free plans and all. Enjoy yourself!


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: jayantpradhan on February 24, 2013, 01:24:57 AM
beautiful build vc sir... Hope we see more later..


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on February 24, 2013, 01:28:21 AM
Beautiful Build??? I haven't even starting building as yet! Thanks anyway! : :thumbsup:


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: jayantpradhan on February 24, 2013, 01:51:53 AM
hehehehehe....
i mean it will be a very beautiful build sir..


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on February 25, 2013, 11:07:54 PM
All templates pasted on 2,3,4 mm foam and plywood.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on February 27, 2013, 09:22:25 PM
All parts have been cut out today, except the hull skinning. A total of 92 parts have to be assembled. My right palm has swollen up. It was a Herculean task cutting the 4mm and 5mm (hull bulkheads) foam with a modelling knife. The Keel has to be made thicker and stronger.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: adijoshi11 on March 03, 2013, 09:17:57 PM
awesome job VC!

yep..i can understand the pains in cutting the parts..but when it comes together, its definitely worth the efforts!

Its good to see a boat being constructed and I wish to build one someday. Well, looking forward for subsequent posts.

-aditya joshi.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 06, 2013, 12:48:10 PM
This is a Vosper boat and the hull shape is versatile. It can be utilised for making the famous Vosper Thornycroft torpedo boats. Construction started this morning.

Keel made from 4 mm ply. Planning on a twin brushed drive or a single BLM. Haven't decided as yet.


Cheers!


P.s. My 4000th. post! :o There is another milestone attached to this. This is the first time ever, that I have 3 boats under construction simultaneously. The Schnellboot, Mermaid and now this. :thumbsup:


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 07, 2013, 12:26:55 AM
Had bought some Universal Joints from RCD in Sept 2012. I spent the last 5 hours fruitlessly searching for them. I have stashed them somewhere, very carefully, and now I can't find them.  :banghead: Construction suffered, had hoped to achieve more today. This is where she is now.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 07, 2013, 10:49:37 AM
Hope you get un-disjointed soon VC. Always a pleasure to view your builds  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 08, 2013, 12:11:02 AM
Sir, thank you. However, due to the less than lukewarm response to this thread (and other builds), I've decided to stop documenting the build process - just not worth my time, I'd rather post my detailed build logs on overseas forums where the elicit much better responses and cerebral interactions. I see a lot of so called 'boat lovers' logging in to the forum, and I notice their total lack of interest in following / commenting on any of the builds here.  :giggle:

The next entry on this thread shall be that of the boat maiden video. Whenever that is.

Cheers!


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: rcpilotacro on March 08, 2013, 08:32:20 AM
VC

700+ views of these two boat thread and 3000 odd for Schnellboot is not lukewarm response, people are seeing it (may be with awe) they are not contributing (me inclusive) coz we don't have much to contribute, atleast me, i am not a boat guy, i sail, kayak, boat all on the action front, what goes into it? no bloody clue, and i am sure it is the similar case with others too, you need to keep on posting your progress for simple reason that any wannabe (like me) can take clues and build from there. i agree modelboatmayhem.com is more engaging, it is model boat forum for god sakes !. My point is, post or no post is upto you, if you do? wannabe boaters will benefit, boat modelling (Nos of which is so few in India) will improve. Remember, a lot of wannabes look upto you.

So !! continue posting  ;D


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 08, 2013, 09:11:58 AM
Awww, come of it VC. We love you so much we award you the Victoria Cross 1st Class!


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: pline on March 08, 2013, 04:03:13 PM
Hello VC,
to put on record your every build log, specially the ones on MTBs are being closely followed by me and I am sure like me there are many others.
As a matter of fact your PT 109 inspired me to try my hand at scratch building my 1/50 scale Thornycroft MTB and ofcourse my current project the 1/50 scale IJN MTBD.
Post this build I plan to do a PT109 & perhaps later a S-boot, both in 1/50 scale, and surely always using your build logs as yard sticks.

regards
nilanjan paul


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 08, 2013, 11:42:53 PM
I  :bow: to good advice. Sorry if I was being a jerk, however, it does get a little frustrating  :banghead: around here. Is that why the other,  more accomplished, boat modellers don't post much any more? ??? :headscratch:

Cabin fit tested. Bottom skin support bulkheads installed. Tomorrow, I plan to install the stuffing tube and the skins.

Nilanjan, I am following the IJN keenly and I think that it is going to be a beauty. Would love to see your other builds taking shape.. I am interested in these plans - do you have anything on these lines to spare?


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 09, 2013, 10:00:48 AM
Why do boat builders "lay the keel?"

Nothing else :D ?


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 09, 2013, 01:54:45 PM
Because there are only buoys at sea and buoys will be buoys.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 09, 2013, 02:16:37 PM
 :thumbsup: :rofl:

That merits another Victoria Cross!


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 09, 2013, 11:31:29 PM
Got these lovely Universal Joint / Stuffing tube / Props sets from Alok (alokhovercraft) some time back. I am going to use these for both this boat and the Mermaid.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 12, 2013, 01:08:04 AM
All modellers aspiring to build this boat from the plans supplied - BEWARE!

As cautioned by the creator / replicater of these plans, this plan is not a tried and tested article and needs a LOT of modifications to ensure perfect fits. This is not a plan or a model for a beginner. Certainly not an 'Eezebilt' model.

Please pay special attention to the 'Error' pages.

 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 12, 2013, 11:24:25 PM
Status as on date.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 25, 2013, 01:29:49 AM
The Hull Skinning is going to be in two composite layers on this model. Can't use available plywood as the flexibility of the ply while covering the bow will be an issue and the contours may not be accurate. I need something more forgiving yet strong.. I have tried steaming the ply, however, I am still not confident of the final result. Therefore, the first layer is going to be out of 2mm expanded foam (Sunfoam). On top of that will be 1mm maroon plastic sheeting. I had used the same sheeting on the Antares / Naughty Cal with GREAT results. That was a much smaller model with many more bulkheads, thus rigidity wasn't a problem. I may need to add additional bulkheads here though the sunfoam will help the moulding.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on March 27, 2013, 03:23:05 PM
Hull skinning completed. I never thought that it would be so easy to work with foam board on the hull skinning. The Bow (front/nose) section with all its complex curves has worked out beyond my expectations.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: yuvraj on May 02, 2013, 02:53:58 PM
i also need these type's of connector


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: aniket210696 on May 02, 2013, 03:36:25 PM
Beautiful! cant wait to see the vid! ;D


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on May 26, 2013, 11:08:43 PM
Wasn't too happy with the fore hull profile. There was this ugly bulge that would have  caused a disturbing bow wave and would have resulted in a bobbing motion. Decided to tear it apart and rebuild it. These are the results. I'm satisfied, though I know that I could have done better. Final finishing will take care of the small discrepancies.

Going slow on these builds. Hope it pays off.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: sanjayrai55 on May 27, 2013, 08:57:19 AM
Bash on sir, audience awaits with bated breath


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on July 22, 2013, 11:18:18 PM
Ho Hum! Here we go again. To start with, the shape of the bridge windshield / portholes are entirely incorrect and needs to be rebuilt. Lot of work remaining.  :banghead:


Title: Re: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: aniket210696 on July 23, 2013, 12:02:34 AM
wow! how did you make such a beautiful hull with foam board? I have hit a roadblock on my mhadei build... the upper area is ready but the hull is not coming only! it keeps looking... polygonal.... like its been chiselled.. I can't get that smooth finish... :-\

Sent from a potato using a lamp


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on July 23, 2013, 12:56:15 AM
You need to get yourself a can of 'Bilux Polyester Putty' that is available at automotive stores. I've been using it extensively on my builds. Dries fast, can be sanded and is totally waterproof. Check videos on Youtube about 'polyester putty' and you will get to know how to apply it.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on July 23, 2013, 01:02:04 AM
Ab theek hai - Aaaab heek hai. ;D


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: sanjayrai55 on July 23, 2013, 08:36:54 AM
Great. I think we are going to see another completion very soon!  {:)} {:)}


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: chetanmayekar on July 31, 2013, 02:34:24 AM
VC sir Its really looking gr8... Can we build her in Sunboard? Pls post pic of hardware assembly. too

Thnx


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on July 31, 2013, 10:32:45 AM
Chetan bhai, it IS built out of Sunboard.


Title: Masochism
Post by: VC on August 21, 2013, 10:27:16 PM
mas·och·ism 
/ˈmasəˌkizəm/
Noun

The tendency to derive pleasure, from one's own pain or humiliation.
(in general use) The enjoyment of what appears to be painful or tiresome.



How does one get hold of this magnificent set of detailing kit without paying for it? ??? :headscratch: ;)


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: sanjayrai55 on August 21, 2013, 10:43:10 PM
Well......if you don't want to pay for it:

1. Catch some generous soul, e.g. whose favourite nephew you are

2. Steal  :rofl:


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on September 08, 2013, 01:12:54 AM
Rai sahib, there exists a 3rd. option. Strictly reserved for masochists. Scratch build the entire lot! Then again, you have to adhere to scale and also do better than what is being offered by the firangis. ;D

I have added a lot of extra details. The Searchlight actually works. The mast will feature a working navigation light. The port, starboard nav lights are also functional. The crane can be traversed manually (like the original). The main mast has a nav light and folds down like the real thing did in 1950.

Check out the stowed net once I post it.

Judge for yourself. More to follow. Learning how to knit now - guess why? ???

So much yet to learn and so much more yet to do.

Stay tuned.


Title: Re: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: rohitgupta322 on September 08, 2013, 08:52:28 AM
Beautiful build bhaiya. And I am not a boat guy, so why are you learning how to knit?


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: sanjayrai55 on September 08, 2013, 09:39:12 AM
VC sir!!!!  :hatsoff: :hatsoff: :hatsoff:  :goodjob:

Positively brilliant stuff! Just love it. Gawd...the man has patience, and an infinite capacity for self-torture  ;) ;) ;)

Yes, knitting, yes. Very therapeutic. Soothes the nerves after those extreme bouts of masochism   :rofl:


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: rcrcnitesh on September 08, 2013, 10:09:29 AM
awesome builr sir love it nice profile picture by the way


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 19, 2013, 08:17:21 PM
Finally, she is ready for her maiden voyage. Uploading pictures in a while. The detailing has left me completely spent.

Here are some teasers..................... ;)


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 19, 2013, 10:13:00 PM
Here are some more pictures of the completed model.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 19, 2013, 10:17:32 PM
EVERYTHING (except the ESC, Brushed Motor, Servos, Tx, Rx, wires, propeller, LED's and Battery pack :)) is scratch built.

In fact, the stow nets (in the first photo) were hand knitted.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 19, 2013, 10:20:52 PM
I bit off more than I could chew, at times........thankfully, I pushed on.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 19, 2013, 10:26:03 PM
Final  touch up painting, varnish yet to be done. Should complete by tomorrow. Maiden for this and the Mermaid next week, hopefully.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 19, 2013, 10:31:20 PM
Working Mast / Navigation lights and Searchlight (controlled via a dismantled 9 gm servo and a free channel on the Rx), wailing siren yet to be installed.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 19, 2013, 10:36:57 PM
24th. Feb 2013 - 19th. Oct 2013 .......this has been one long build. I hope it was worth it.

I will detail the scratch building process of the various components, if the forum desires.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 19, 2013, 10:51:23 PM
550 Brushed Motor and Reversible ESC, 2S LiPo, Avionic RCB 6i Tx/Rx (Removing the HK system), Turnigy Blue Prop (forgot the dimensions), 2 x 9G servos for rudder and lights. AUW 1656 grams.


Title: Re: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: aniket210696 on October 20, 2013, 12:31:33 AM
vc sir that's beautiful! Can't wait to see you maiden it! :hatsoff:

Sent from a potato using a lamp


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 20, 2013, 12:53:20 AM
Thanks Aniket, hope to do it tomorrow or the day after. She seems over powered. We will find out soon.


Title: Re: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: aniket210696 on October 20, 2013, 09:24:20 AM
there are 2 props right? are you having differential thrust?
if you have, then mount the camera onboard! it will be like boat fpv :-*

Sent from a potato using a lamp


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 20, 2013, 10:44:00 AM
There is only one prop. Direction is controlled by the rudder. I will mount a key chain cam.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: asbadasevil on October 20, 2013, 11:27:40 AM
didn't find any method to contact you in this forum
i want to know where can i get foam boards in guwahati i am studying in IIT-guwahati want to build an Cargo Rc plane please help me out


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: Sb_Maharana on October 20, 2013, 11:30:17 AM
that is really very detailed work done, the boat is almost resembling the original to a great extend.
working lights and siren will be more realistic on water, waiting for the video.  


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 20, 2013, 11:47:47 AM
Thank you Maharana Sir! I wish I had been a little more patient with it.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: sanjayrai55 on October 20, 2013, 05:56:06 PM
Totally spectacular  {:)} {:)} {:)}

Can't wait to see it in action  (:|~ (:|~


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 20, 2013, 06:44:44 PM
Thank you Sir. Mast LED blew out. Everything ripped out and under maintenance now.


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: sanjayrai55 on October 20, 2013, 07:01:15 PM
 :headscratch: :headscratch: This time make it so that you can change a bulb without breaking the walls to get to the wiring  ;) ;)


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: VC on October 20, 2013, 11:02:04 PM
Damage repaired. By the way, I told you that I was learning to knit........ ;)


Title: Re: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: sanjayrai55 on October 21, 2013, 05:40:50 AM
Awesome. Now in winter you can keep your fingers warm for the sticks :D:D

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Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: aman1256 on December 03, 2013, 04:26:33 PM
Awesome !!!


Title: Re: From Available Plans - Semi Scratch Built - RAF Crash Tender
Post by: GI Jha on June 23, 2015, 06:16:18 PM
hey VC... do you have the PT boat plans by any chance. I can see you're building the Vosper. Similar but not the same! A newbie in this forum but I build Tamiya kit conversions mostly. All converted to RC. Want to try my hand at scratch building :)