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Title: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on September 08, 2010, 11:33:02 AM
Hai guys i want to enter into rc car nitro  :) . Please suggest me a good model to start with.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: iamahuman on September 08, 2010, 04:34:03 PM
try Traxxas,HPI.See the traxxas.in website for prices.You can see thunder tiger also.There are more,but these are the ones I know that seem to be good.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on September 08, 2010, 04:45:15 PM
I have checked the web.. But can you tell me a particular model that from your experience or knowledge you feel good....


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: iamahuman on September 08, 2010, 05:01:15 PM
I've got zero experience with nitros(or electrics).Just wait for mail4ajo,xplosify(Imran),abovethelimit and other guys to read this.They will give lot better advice.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: above the limt on September 08, 2010, 05:28:54 PM
Hey sreedhar,

Welcome to the world of RC Nitro.. Nitros are fun, at times it can be a pain with tuning. To start of with I would suggest Thunder tiger man.. It has got spares readily available with Modelart, Bangalore. are you planning to Race or Bash?. There is Buggy, Truggy & Monster Truck.. What do you want ?. What is your budget?. Nitro cars start from 15k onwards. Your fuel cost will be Rs. 600 a litre if you buy branded Tornado Fuel.. Choose wisely..


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: ThrottleRC on September 08, 2010, 07:26:34 PM
Hi Sreedhar,

You need to tell your requirement / intent on using the car.
What do you plan to do with the car?
What is your budget?
Then I can suggest something that suits your Need.

Jayanth


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: iamahuman on September 08, 2010, 08:50:55 PM
If you're starting,I would advise you to start with electrics.If you have experience with nitro engines,you can get a nitro.And yeah,what is your budget?And like jayanth said,what is the pattern of usage will your car go through?


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: rajathv8 on September 08, 2010, 09:47:21 PM
He has a TT phoenix ST2. :)


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on September 09, 2010, 09:26:15 AM
Hai Guys.. Thanks for the support Luv u all... I have a TT phoenix st 2... but i case of electricals there is not much to be be done with the the tech... I have a huge craze for nitro trucks.. I am planning to bash since there is no racing in kerala i guess....My budget is about 20K (including everything)... I dont know what all we need to start of with... I am interested in kits too which will give fun of assembling the truck...
I am looking for 1/8 but if my budget is low for that then i would go for 1/10... Please help out guys....
Thanks


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: above the limt on September 09, 2010, 12:49:11 PM
Hai Guys.. Thanks for the support Luv u all... I have a TT phoenix st 2... but i case of electricals there is not much to be be done with the the tech... I have a huge craze for nitro trucks.. I am planning to bash since there is no racing in kerala i guess....My budget is about 20K (including everything)... I dont know what all we need to start of with... I am interested in kits too which will give fun of assembling the truck...
I am looking for 1/8 but if my budget is low for that then i would go for 1/10... Please help out guys....
Thanks
For Bashing.. Just stick to Monster Truck, but im not sure u will get anything below 20k in India. TT MTA4 is best option for you..Kyosho Giga Crusher can be bought for that price. There is guy in Bangalore, His name is Bharath. He is sellin the Kyosho Giga Crusher, I dont if it is used or brand new..Can find out for you. Speak to modelart for Thunder Tiger MTA4.. 


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on September 09, 2010, 01:38:21 PM
Hai above the limit.. could you please get the price of kyosho for me.. Can you suggest any site from where i can comfortably purchase a nitro (international)...


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: iamahuman on September 09, 2010, 04:52:36 PM
his site (bharath)is www.yourhobbyshop.com.  Just get the exact address from the mega list of rc shops.He can help.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: mail4ajo on September 09, 2010, 07:44:28 PM
Barath has very less stuff on stock as he is on his way out. I guess he still has the Kyosho MFR and DST in stock.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on September 09, 2010, 07:52:51 PM
yes he has very less items on stock... what do u guyd think about the traxxax nitro stamped, HPI 1/8 savage x4.6, Traxxas nitro sport rtr??? how is it to buy from amainhobby.com??????????


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: mail4ajo on September 09, 2010, 08:02:02 PM
yes he has very less items on stock... what do u guyd think about the traxxax nitro stamped, HPI 1/8 savage x4.6, Traxxas nitro sport rtr??? how is it to buy from amainhobby.com??????????
Stampede is 2WD. Do some research on it. I would suggest a minimum Tmaxx. Traxxas India prices are very close to amainhobby+shipping+customs. Check it and decide.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on September 09, 2010, 08:14:18 PM
T Maxx price has not been mentioned in traxxas india. could you suggest a good/descent model with in 20k................


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: ANTA on September 09, 2010, 08:49:33 PM
T Maxx price has not been mentioned in traxxas india. could you suggest a good/descent model with in 20k................
You can contact Kapil Jolly of Traxxas India. kapiljolly@traxxas.in


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: mail4ajo on September 09, 2010, 09:28:41 PM
T Maxx price has not been mentioned in traxxas india. could you suggest a good/descent model with in 20k................
I believe Tmaxx cost more than 20K. I think for that budget, you can get a Rustler in Traxxas or Tomahawk ST in TT


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: iamahuman on September 10, 2010, 08:58:39 AM
But again,they are electric(I am guessing so because you have not mentioned 'nitro'rustler.)And yeah,speak to Kapil.Very friendly guy.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: iamahuman on September 10, 2010, 09:05:25 AM
sorry to direct you to a seller with very low stock.I had no idea.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on September 10, 2010, 10:18:44 AM
sorry to direct you to a seller with very low stock.I had no idea.
No probs da.... I have send a mail to kapil requesting for price.. BTW any more suggestions??


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: traxxrc1 on September 10, 2010, 11:06:36 AM
Go for a Tomahwak ST .good car, looks great ,easy spares availability, 1/10 scale, 4x4
will cost around 19k with all the stuff included

traxxas nitro will not be anything less than 25k
same with HPI
Losi not available
Duratraxx not available(some people sell it but no spares)

another car i can suggest is a short course truck(looks much like a slash)
Vortex SS nitro costs around 17k +fuel,fuel bottle,glow driver
does 70kmph, spares might be a pro but otherwise its fine


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: traxxrc1 on September 10, 2010, 11:10:33 AM
you can get a tomahawk bx for 15k including everything , nice car, does 80kmph, but low ground clearence and also not at all meant for jumps

traxxas nitro sports and stampede are available for 20k excluding fuel,fuel botle,glow driver
but they are not really good, they are 2wd as well and stampede is famous for its lasyness


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: traxxrc1 on September 10, 2010, 11:11:37 AM
i personnaly suggest to go for tomahawk st, its value for money, powerful, easy spares availability
herees the link
http://www.rcskyhobby.com/products.php?prd_id=29&main_page=products


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on September 10, 2010, 12:30:50 PM
Hai arpith... I was looking for a Monster Truck... I already have a TT and i want to go for some other brand....


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on September 10, 2010, 01:48:05 PM
Is HPI savage X 4.6 4wd????


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: iamahuman on September 10, 2010, 03:56:44 PM
yeah


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: iamahuman on September 10, 2010, 04:00:08 PM
http://www.hpiracing.com/kitinfo/867/


Only problem I see is the radio is not 2.4GHz.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: traxxrc1 on September 10, 2010, 04:06:53 PM
i dont think any monster truck will be priced for 20k, you though can get a chinese monster truck for that price, one of it is available at rcskyhobby showroom but not on site


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: traxxrc1 on September 10, 2010, 04:12:58 PM
BTW you said your budget is strictly 20k, let me tell you savage x 4.6 and XL 5.9 are priced at 40k excluding other things so dosen't makes sense
But savage xl 5.9 rockzzzz, i own it from almost a month now....awesome...

also no point in buying a savage x because the savage xl with  bigger engine is proced for the same amount


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: traxxrc1 on September 10, 2010, 04:13:46 PM
new savage n bja are 2.4ghz


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on September 10, 2010, 06:02:55 PM
Dear arpith please refer
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_info.php/cPath/1_44_50/products_id/14061/n/HPI-1-8-Savage-X-46-Big-Block-RTR-Monster-Truck

Inclusive of shipping i think it will become about 550$. but i dont know abt customs....


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: traxxrc1 on September 10, 2010, 07:48:03 PM
i have got 1,so i think i know better
anyways transportation 100$(express)
custom duties 20%of MRP
all of this goes around 35k,so why not buy is for 40k from a shop in India itself



Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: traxxrc1 on September 10, 2010, 07:50:00 PM
also fuel bottle ,fuel,glowflug driver asnd glowflug charger will cost you around 4k.so i dont think this is not what you are willing to pay for.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: mail4ajo on September 10, 2010, 08:02:00 PM
Vortex SS nitro costs around 17k +fuel,fuel bottle,glow driver
does 70kmph, spares might be a pro but otherwise its fine
Vortex is a chinese clone by redcat. Not even as original as a TT. Dont touch it, will be stuck without spares and support.

custom duties 20%of MRP
all of this goes around 35k,so why not buy is for 40k from a shop in India itself

Customs on personal stuff is 14.712% of invoice value. Dont think Savage is 40K anymore. Those prices were in the olden days. I got a Savage from Tower shipped with all customs paid for 26K....

Check with tritech hobbies, Mumbai for latest prices. You will be surprised.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on September 11, 2010, 09:31:16 AM
Hai ajo could you please give me the link of the site you bought savage from????????? Could you also give me the link of tritech hobbies so that i could ask the price.....


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: iamahuman on September 11, 2010, 09:34:17 AM
http://www.tritechgroup.net/



Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: traxxrc1 on September 11, 2010, 09:19:39 PM
what price did tritech group tell you?


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on September 14, 2010, 09:57:37 AM
Tritech gave me a price of 32k or less for 2.4g version of savage x 4.6, and aslo tols hpi trophy3.5 in range 25K what do u guys feel about trophy 3.5????


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: ThrottleRC on September 14, 2010, 10:23:09 AM
Go for the savage instead of trophy


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on September 14, 2010, 10:30:53 AM
Go for the savage instead of trophy

Y do u say so jayanth...


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: above the limt on September 14, 2010, 10:32:58 AM
Sreedhar, Speak to Bharath.. I have PMed his no to you.. For Kyosho Giga Crusher.. Fits you budget perfectly..


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: traxxrc1 on September 14, 2010, 02:20:37 PM
Go for savage no doubt if it gets to your budget and if u can expancd your wallet a little more go for Savage 5.9 instead of 4.6


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on September 14, 2010, 02:54:42 PM
Help guys there are two favorable options
1, KYOSHO GIGA CRUSHER SF BRAND NEW
2, HPI SAVAGE X 4.6 USED 8 TANKD OF FUEL

which one to go for????????


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: above the limt on September 14, 2010, 04:32:13 PM
New car is better than used in-case of Nitro.. Used Engines are always a risk.. Hope bharath gave u a good deal..


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: traxxrc1 on September 14, 2010, 05:28:33 PM
i think go for savage anyway...moreover its just 8 tank.
some personal tips--

check drive shaft
check for high oil leak from exhaust
look for steering knuckles if they are aligned
check shock damp
carefully check front and rear differentials independentlt.>make sure when you turn one tire on one differential say rear ,other tire should freely rotate in opp. direction but  front tire should not move. if they do, sure sign of abuse


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: mail4ajo on September 14, 2010, 07:19:24 PM
Tritech gave me a price of 32k or less for 2.4g version of savage x 4.6, and aslo tols hpi trophy3.5 in range 25K what do u guys feel about trophy 3.5????
It depends on what you want to do with the car, if you like to race, go for the Trophy, or for bashing and some racing go for the Savage.

I would always suggest new over a used one. You dont know what can go wrong. Even one tank of fuel is enough to ruin a car if not used well. If you have the facility to personally check and verify the condition, go ahead with an used one.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on September 16, 2010, 12:12:33 PM
Guys I am narrowing down my options according to my budget

 Kyosho DBX 1/10th 4WD Nitro Off Road Ready Set Buggy w/GXR18 & KT-6 Radio

 HPI Nitro RS4 MT2 G3.0 RTR 1/10 Nitro Truck

Kyosho DST 1/10th 4WD Nitro Off Road Ready Set Truck w/ GXR18 Engine

 Traxxas Nitro Sport RTR w/TQ Radio & Pro.15 Engine (w/Easy Start Battery, Charger, Fuel Bottle)

Are the above ones any good???


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: iamahuman on September 16, 2010, 01:54:01 PM
What is the nitro sport?


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: iamahuman on September 16, 2010, 01:56:30 PM
I'd say,stick to the 4wd.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on September 16, 2010, 02:03:40 PM
hai, traxxax nitro sport is 2w i think.... what u guys think about the kyosho models mentioned above???


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: mail4ajo on September 16, 2010, 08:18:21 PM
I would say Kyosho DST. I have lots of personal experience with it. Easy to maintain and tune, fast and reliable. Spares easily available thru Harmony Models, HK. I can get most spares for you from HK.

HPI RS4 should be more expensive and Nitro sport is 2WD, but the RTR package is very nice for a begginer.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on September 16, 2010, 09:22:59 PM
Hai ajo..

what do you think about kyosho DBX???? Is kyosho dst a gud model???? dst and dbx comes up to 15K including shipping, hpi rs4 mt2 come up to abt 19.5k including shipping, nitro sport is 2w a person told me he has fresh model for 20k.... please advice...

i liked the looks of hpi rs4 but dont know about the performance.. please give me more info regarding the kyosho model.....

i need to buy one fast....


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: mail4ajo on September 16, 2010, 11:08:30 PM
Hai ajo..

what do you think about kyosho DBX???? Is kyosho dst a gud model????

See my previous post on DST. The DBX is the buggy version of the car. If you like to know more, please PM me and we can chat on phone.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Manav_Ahluwalia on October 06, 2010, 12:02:38 AM
A big hi to all Monster Experts :salute:

Last week, on the flying feild we had some buggy & monster action! it was awesome (:|~ Now thats got me into trouble, coz i think i want to get one :headscratch: I have shortlisted on the HPI Savage XL & The Thunder Tiger Sledge Hammer S50. Now this is my first RC Truck and have no clue which one to get 8-) Please advise!

Cheers :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: mail4ajo on October 06, 2010, 12:06:08 AM

All based on your specific need. Savage is the best Monster truck on the planet for bashing, for racing its the Traxxas Revo. Revo is also the most complete RTR truck you can buy. For pure size and engine capacity and spares/service support in India, its the S50.

Decide based on your need. PM me for more info. I have bashed/raced the 3 mentioned cars.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Manav_Ahluwalia on October 06, 2010, 12:11:21 AM
My need is absolute for Loads of bashing & thrashing. Having said that it must be low on maintenance as spare time is always a concern. Thats why the confusion.

BTW: When you say "Revo is also the most complete RTR truck you can buy" what does that mean?

Read the PM part latter. Will do that the next time. Thanks


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: mail4ajo on October 06, 2010, 12:14:27 AM
My need is absolute for Loads of bashing & thrashing. Having said that it must be low on maintenance as spare time is always a concern. Thats why the confusion.
For pure Bashing and Thrashing, close your eyes and choose the Savage. Cars are not low maintainence. You cannot toss them after your done like you do with aircraft. Lots of work to keep them in ship shape. Lots of moving parts. More like Helis.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on October 06, 2010, 10:25:44 AM
Go for the savage... Its the best... Dont go for thunder tiger products it will bring in big problems..... As cars are conserned maintanence is a big deal...


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: mail4ajo on October 06, 2010, 10:43:40 AM
Dont go for thunder tiger products it will bring in big problems
Guys, dont make such statements. TT is good for its price point. Every car has its issues. Savage is also not issue free. It comes with its own set of problems. I have owned several TT car including the S50, so I dont agree. For Bashing, its Savage.

I wanted to race, so shifted to Revo.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: traxxrc1 on October 06, 2010, 10:49:20 AM
TTR not as bad as people think it 2 b


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Manav_Ahluwalia on October 06, 2010, 11:10:11 AM
Hi Arpit
What kind of issues did you face with the HPI Savage XL & what is not so good about the TT S50. Please ellaborate.


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: traxxrc1 on October 06, 2010, 11:18:35 AM
Savage is the best for those who want power for doing all that crazy stuff(like me), but not that much good for on track racing like Mr. Ajo said. But that is definitely not a (-)ve.
one thing i didn't like very much is the 3mm chasis side mount plates, i upgraded them to 7mm side plates. Thats it. Everything is excellent


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: traxxrc1 on October 06, 2010, 11:23:44 AM
About the sledgehammer i cant comment because i dont have it, but used it for 2 weeks and it was fun. Has got great power and low end torque.
Quality a litle issue, parts break a little earlier than expected but not as many people think. I have seen people doing wheelies upto 100m and the car going well, people doing nice jumps about some 2-3m high and the cr dosen't breaks or faults even if it lands on its back.
build quality is incomparable to a savage but still i would say better than a kyosho or tamiya or redcat/vortex


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: Sreedhar on October 06, 2010, 11:43:37 AM

Guys, dont make such statements. TT is good for its price point. Every car has its issues. Savage is also not issue free. It comes with its own set of problems. I have owned several TT car including the S50, so I dont agree. For Bashing, its Savage.

I wanted to race, so shifted to Revo.
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You are right Ajo... TT is not that bad.. But I said so coz Manav had asked for low maintance and TT will require more maintanence than others coz as traxxrc1 said the parts beak easily... TT is gud for the price (strictly considering the price) but if you have more budget defenitly go for HPI or Traxxas product.. They have better quality...


Title: Re: Getting into nitro
Post by: ThrottleRC on October 06, 2010, 05:56:56 PM
Folks,

I think it all depends on how deep the buyer's pocket goes.
Quality is a relative term.
And when you invest so much why not do it a better product though it costs a few bucks more?

Jayanth