RC India

I am planning on buying a RC car my budget is around 20k (would like to spend within and if possible not exceed it  ;D)

The options i've considered right now are:-

1. Traxxas Slash 2wd Brushed edition 1/10th scale
2. Traxxas Slash 4wd, Brushless, 1/16th scale
3. Traxxas e-revo 4wd, Brushless, 1/16th scale

Please tell me which among these is the best. I will mainly be using it on the terrace,backyard (pretty huge almost 20'x30' and there's absolutely no concrete/cement ) and a little bit of track racing whenever i get a chance. Please suggest any other brand with proper support in India.

Well,you are in teh same situation I was in a few months ago.I had 25k to spend and had almost the same choices.I would suggest the mini e revo 1/16 brushless edition.Suggesting against the 1/10 slash because it is brushed.

Yeah.. For that budget, Mini Revo is good.. BUT, if it is POSSIBLE, go for the Slash 4x4.. Killer vehicle and frankly, more controllable than a mini Revo..

@iamhuman: Yup. Went through your thread before posting mine. Mini revo is what seems the best option of the lot, since i really don't want to spend more than 20k. Do you suggest any other brand ? TT or may be someother one i am not aware of.
@Divyam: Mini revo from the videos i've seen has two eheels in the air on every start. How is it otherwise ? On sand/tarmac/grass etc ?

Also will it be enjoyable on the track ? I'm speaking about 1/16th scale cars in general AND the mini revo which, from what i've read, has some issues on the track regarding controllability

The reason I got the slash is because of the control issue that Divyam has mentioned.Again,IF you're willing to go the extra mile,get a slash 4x4.You'll be happier.If its not possible,get a mini e revo,make some sway bars(if possible.Traxxas doesn't sell them)You can try the Ttr sparrowhawk XXT.its 15k plus batteries and charger.Its not as strong as the slash 4x4.So,IF possible,get the slash 4x4.OR go with the mini E revo but the performance on track won't be the best but you will have a blast bashing it.Especially on the road.IF you want to drive on the road,get yourself some on-road tires.

How good is the sparrowhawk in terms of reliability ? read about some quality issues on the forum.
Hmmm... if a strech my budget to accomodate a Slash 4x4 i'm tempted to look at t-maxx 3.3. :headscratch: Lol. The budget goes for a toss again  ;D
How much do on-road tyres cost ? if you have an some idea about it

If you have a choice between a slash 4x4 and a T-maxx,get the slash.elecs are faster.Ttr has some probs.The slash has more quality and is more durable.

on-roads should cost like 2,000 rs or something like that.Again,I would suggest you take a look at the slash.

The terrace space is too small for both the scales. I would suggest a Slash 4x4 1.10. It is a great car out of the box, unlimited upgrades, handles really well and a great car to start with. If you just want cars which are stupidly fast look at the 1.16 merv.

Other options around the same price point

HPI Mini Trophy 4WD
Traxxas Rustler VXL
HPI bullit flux

what about the e firestorm flux 2.4GHz?

@siddharth: the terrace space is ~2500 sq.ft. I will eventually take it out on the road but i hate crowd building up and asking me all sort of stupid questions. So was considering indoor options. My understanding is that Slash is a better all-rounder and worth the additional amount spent. Where can i get HPI products in bangalore? Rustler VXL is a 2wd. When will a 4wd be better than a 2wd ? 

Any idea about the VAT on RC cars ? I think it is 3.5%.

a 4wd is almost always better than a 2wd.

@Iamhuman - a 4wd is not always better than a 2wd. The 1/5th scale is a good example, i personally prefer the rear wheel drive as it has the ability to be flicked in a corner. Since there is so much weight those things are very easy to control. I feel the 4wd 1.5 offroad are a lot harder to control around corners as they tend to push a lot unless you have a long sweeping corner.

Eventually you will have to take the car to open spaces to drive it. The slash is a great all rounder. Pmed you the details of the bangalore contact.

Just did some research online and it seems that Jammin SCRT10 is a very good car too. Is it worth considering bearing in mind my kind of usage. One review said its best suited on-road.

Its a good racer but not the best basher and I don't think it fits your budget.

@siddharth: Do i have to add you to my guest list or something ? Haven't got ur PM yet.

@uamahuman: How much does it retail for ?

It was more than 25,000 rs when I checked

Ask the owner of 'joy rising hobbies' ,'abovethelimit' on the forum

If its above 25k it sure is out of consideration. Done :) sent him a PM

Can someone give me the contact for HPI Bangalore ?

As of now Slash 4x4 is what i think i will buy. But in the same range there's also the t-maxx 3.3. Its a MT and a nitro so totally different from what i started considering initially. How good is the t-maxx ? Also is it so loud (in comparison to electronics) that it's almost always run only at the track, and not in backyards else neighbors start complaining a lot ??

u cant run a nitro in small space, nitro requires space before they actually catch some speed

T-maxx is good only for those who know how to drive properly, other wise t will break like hell, dont listen to trx guys, they will be obviously biased.
Try looking for guys who own it.

It is an OK car but I would suggest the slash 4x4.You'll be happier with an electric model.Nitros are pretty loud and need lots of maintenance and they are weaker compared to lipos+brushless.Get the slash instead.

@himank: Yup. I hope some owners post their experience here. You mean to say it has reliability issues ?

Right now its the Slash 4x4, will visit the shop tomorrow and HOPEFULLY make a deal :)

Good choice.You won't regret the money you spent.(unless something crazy is done with it.)

Its fragile compared to everything, but very fast.
SO if u know how to drive , its very nice, and since the engine is hard to tune, its not perfect fo beginner.

@himank: please refrain from making claims unless you have personally gone through it.
               Even you if you have personally gone through it, do not forget it could be your mistake.
               T-maxx is a great truck and the new traxxas 3.3 engine is by far the most easiest engine to
               work on in any aspect.
               If you do not know to run properly and do not follow precautions and advice and damn
               car will break.
               DO NOT MISLEAD the RC community by YOUR  biased claims and unwarranted suggestions.
               if you want to do that, please find some other forum!!!

Cheers

Still,get the slash 4x4.Electrics are faster and are the future. :P ;D

Also,nitro+beginner doesn't make for a great combination. ;D

electrics might be a little faster, no doubt.
But it also depends on the interest.
The burning smell of nitro, the sound of the revving engine, listening to the music of the engine in its entire  RPM range... unmatchable...

Nitro + beginner + support = great combination!!!  :) {:)}

Hey man.Let him get a slash.All of us can race together.With you,Divyam and already having one,one more slash is gonna help.Too many nitros out there(aggressive conversion tactics) ;) :P

Also,the slash is more of an all rounder compared to the T-Maxx.

Lol. Didn't log in for a few hours and i see so much activity :)


PRECISELY!!! there's nothing like the sound of a nitro! Electrics just don compare no matter what. I love the grunt of the diesel engines in REAL cars, so once i watched a few videos on the nitro i simply loved it for the sound. But then again, i have to consider neighbors tolerance levels too. They really wont like it if every night they're woken up by the sound of a nitro charging down the road at midnight!! :P :giggle:

Anyway, final decision after i get a hands-on experience :) cant wait till evening, getting restless already!

FYI i have owned both Tmaxx 2.5 and 3.3 much before you even took a trx dealership, and i have been a big trx fan but would be open enough to tell u that the trx 3.3 's needles stop reacting after a while, and not only its me saying this but a lot many others have same problem.
Secondaly, T-maxx is only good for racing, and is not strong, if u still think its strong, open a poll on this forum, let see what others feel.
IMAO i dont mislead anyone since there is no profit for me in it, but a dealer can surely do that (NOM).
N i am no beginner in rc, to crash cars and claim them bad.

What do u have tosay now, is ajo a beginner...? lol

Cool down guys.We're helping this dude. :)

BTW,did you read the last 2 sentences?

@himank,

Do not forget that the sole intention of us being an LHS is to support / guide RC hobbyists and not make a living out of it !!!!
If our intention was to make money, then i sure would not be running and RC LHS !! LOl

Opinions are not to be taken by one or two people.
This doesn't mean that i'm saying Ajo's words are not true.
Do check on some international forums as well before blindly concluding.

BTW, it doesn't take a beginner to break an RC car!!

I do not have to open a poll, as i know what that car is capable of.
If you need it for your clarification, you can do so.

Just for your reference, from the same post you quoted, from Ajo itself, a few lines down below:

Traxxas is very focused on bashers and newbies. They have the best RTR package you can ask for, all included except fuel, radio battery

Cheers

+1
Everyone makes mistakes!

Just drive both and pick the one which you like better! There's spares and support for both of them anyway! :)

Best rtr r trx in terms of the free goodies they provide, but only for beginners.

hi folks,

as far as the t-max goes, i drove one last weekend and after so many savages, it seemed pretty cool for the price. but as many people said, its definitely not the most robust.

also, id suggest taking a look at the hpi bullet MT/ST. they are old but have the good f series motors.

@vorza owners - i wanted to know how this buggy is... please share if possible.

@Shutter X - I can tell you that the vorza is one of the best RTR buggies out of the box. It has more than enough grunt to compete with the Pro level electric buggies. It comes with a tried and tested MMM esc/motor system. It is the same as the HB D8 so u can imagine the tuning options. You dont even need 1 modification to make it race ready (other than diff tuning to suit your driving style).

@Himank - Not all TRX products are only for beginers. The revo 3.3, e-revo BL are one of the best in the class with extensive tuning options available to make them pro level. I personally have a revo 3.3 and can tell you that no other monster truck will keep up on track due to the handling. Also you comment about the Tmaxx being for racing is wrong, it is for bashing only, the revo is for racing.

Also remember that 90% of the people involved in the commercial aspect of the hobby including jayanth,kapil,manoj,murli etc are doing it because of passion and nothing else. It is a 4th and 5th business. if it was the our bread and butter we would have been homeless by now. So not everything done in India is for profit, it is to support and see the hobby grow in India.

 {:)} {:)} {:)} {:)} :salute: :salute:

VERY well said.

Unfortunately some people do not seem to understand that think otherwise!

Since I am being quoted here, a few thoughts from me:

I think looking at the needs, Slash 2WD is a good option. It should fit in your budget. You can seriously upgrade it also later. Jammin SCRT is a great handler from what I saw in the 702 indoor track, Vegas. But I think you should not bash it. But I seriously suggest, DO NOT drive on your terrace however big it is. Its a safety hazard for both you and your car. A car I sold was run off the terrrace and almost broke everything when it landed.

On the TRX 3.3 engine, YES its not the best one around, but certainly a good RTR one. Lots of power, on demand wheelies on high traction surface etc. But tuning will get you irritated, tuning keeps changing, takes time to respond etc. As I always say, Revo best for racing, Savage best for bashing. This is my own experience.

Its a use and throw engine, rather use and replace with new engine. If TRX india can get the engine replacement gaurantee (which they have in US) to India, will be great. But its a distant dream.

On LHS, I will reserve my comments except that they have to be more competitive by bringing in more volumes. LHS can respond by saying buy only from us and we will be competitive. So its like a chicken and egg story. But unless higher volumes come, price and sales will remain what it is. I believe only lower prices can attract more people to the hobby.

But the prices are quite close to international prices, aren't they?

@mail4ajo: Sir, thanks for your suggestion. Will consider the 2WD option too. Saves me on upfront investment and its always nice to modify it after sometime, and will keep me interested for long. However is it possible to make a 2WD a 4WD later when i feel the need for it ?

I do not feel good about bringing up the comparision b/w slash and t-maxx. It has led to a lot of personal attacks on members which was uncalled for, and totally unnecessary.

The main objective of ANY business is a profit motive. It will be called charity and not business if it is done without any profit. It is but reasonable to assume that they will make profits but the margin is very less. I can vouch for hobbyists helping out fellow hobbyists who are new or are trying to enter the hobby by opening dealerships/importing stuff at competitive prices etc.My personal experience. I imported a fish from Singapore through a friend i met online last year. He got me the fish for the same price as i would've got it from spore after bribing the customs authorities. Not a rupee extra! I say this because i checked with the shops in singapore and my relative's friend works in customs bangalore airport, he asked for a bribe to clear it quickly, else the fish would die in the packet itself. :banghead:

I am STILL waiting for someone to give me the contacts of HPI in blore. Lol. Hope i get it before i buy my truck :)

Buddy being very frank to everyone, i should not say this, but in this hobby, there are a lot many people who are trying there best to fool you up and thugs off all your money, i faced this and so am telling u without being particular to anyone above since i havent dealt with any of them.

Kapil jolly told me that savage is pure bashers type while t-maxx is not for a basher, its for more racing compared to a savage.
Are you trying to point him wrong. NOM to anyone>>>>

@ himank: You are right. There are always people who try to cheat you and take you for a ride. I am thankful to you for sharing your experience as it helps me be more careful. But it is also wrong to genralise right? For all you know there may be some true sellers without any ulterior motives out there. It is sad to hear that you had such bad experiences. Hope such people are eliminated from the hobby.

Anyway, in general nitro's are too loud to be run around near your home unless your neighbors are OK with it. In most cases they wont :(

@shutterx: hey u bought the savage right? I'm sure it must be awesome :) can you give me the contact of the person whom u got it from in blore.Thanks

Shashank,

The T-Maxx has no reliability issues. All nitros come with a certain amount of maintenance. It's just the price you pay for the immense fun they have on tap. Electrics may be faster, but Nitro will always be Nitro.

Having said that, I would advise against getting a very fast model like the rustler vxl because the area you mentioned is simply too small. One runaway and you will have several broken parts. Running a monster truck on a terrace is not much fun as you will not be able to get the most out of it.

Given the current scenario, the Slash 4x4 would be your best best. I don't like the way it looks but that doesn't change the fact that its a great car. If your budget stops you, get the brushed version. You will still be happy with it. And you always have the option of going brushless + LiPo in future since the Slash is ready for upgrades.

Tassem.

Seems like you posted straight out of my mind ! Its exactly what i have in mind :) i'll tell you how i feel about the looks when i look at it in flesh. Hopefully tomorrow :)

Good luck! I hope you find your dream car soon. Both Jayanth and Manoj are extremely helpful and will make it easy for you to decide. If you need Jayanth's number lemme know and I'll pm you. He has a Slash 4x4 of his own so you can see it run as well.

The best part is that, whatever car you decide, you will be happy. What people tend to forget is that R/C has advanced so much these days that we're really comparing the best among the best. Pretty much all vehicles from the stables of the major manufacturers are superbly engineered. But we as users have advanced a lot and are now in a position to judge and that just makes it difficult!

I have never driven a bad R/C in my life. They're all fun! Some more than others, but all fun! That includes the 1500 bucks cars that you can get in landmark, sapphire etc! We're boys and toys will always leave us grinning from ear to ear!! ;)

Hope to finalize it tomorrow ! :) Its been going on for long now

On your earlier query about converting a 2wd slash to a 4x4,its highly unlikely.The reason is that the chassis on the slash 4x4 is very different compared to the 2wd one.You can get the brushed 2wd for now and go bl+lipo later or you can push your budget a little and get a slash 4x4.You will have trouble maxxing a mt on your terrace.

On all that has been going on about cheating and blah blah,I'm sure you won't be cheated if you go with the right guys and the right guys always have good reviews. ;)

Yup. didi some research online. Its very expensive and easier to buy 4x4 only. Its almost impossible to believe that they share nothing in common ! WOW

I hope you'll bite the bullet today!

About the 4x4 - I doubt you'll miss it. I may be horribly wrong, but I feel two wheel drives will give you better control cause you can brake and turn into a corner by flicking the back out. But 4x4 certainly helps if you're driving on lose dirt or climbing an incline etc.

If ever you feel the need for an upgrade get a BL and then a decent LiPo. Get a freshly painted Shell with some nice wheels and tyres and you effectively have a new car! That's the fun of having a high end RC!

But IF you can stretch the budget, get the 4x4.

Ok. So one demo is all it took to decide i want a nitro for sure ! No electrics for me. As good as electrics are, nothing matches the sound of a nitro when it changes gears !! It gives a more realistic feel to using the car.

It starts all over again  >:D I'm back to square one. Right from choice available to budget everything changes  :banghead:

Current options:
T-maxx 3.3
Revo 3.3 (it'll ask for doubling my budget  :o)
HPI Savage...not sure of options available here or the prices

i would tend to disagree with this. i was a complete novice when i purchased the Savage 4.6 nitro. i definitely needed support from Rahul who i bought it from. once i got an idea, its smooth operating all the way.

so do not shy away from nitro. electrics are fast and great but the noise and feel of nitros are way better!

as you know, i bought the savage... its great and is tons of fun, but it costs more. i bought it for 30k.
you could go for the t-maxx. its pretty fast and has a nice chassis. but.... its not as robust as a savage. and its much cheaper..

hope this helps

cheers

but, my advice would be to make your first rc vehicle is a monster truck...

Finally you've seen the light at the end of the tunnel!! All the three trucks you've listed are really good. I would say Savage is the most Bashworthy. But the Revo is ultimate for the tracks and can take quite a bashing itself! The T-Maxx is right in between. All three look kinda alike, sound kinda alike but drive differently. The Savage in stock form is not great for racing but its more forgiving if you crash. Which you most certainly will.

If you have the money, get the Revo. Else go for the Savage. One important thing to keep in mind when choosing this is the complete cost to get it running. With the Revo, you just need the fuel, batteries for the tx and you're ready to go. With the Savage you need to get a Glow Kit, Battery and Fuel. But the overall cost will not be that different between the two models.

If you need more info on the Savage, give a call to Manoj. He's the distributor for HPI in Bangalore. And Jayanth is the guy for anything Traxxas.

As always whichever you get, you will not be disappointed.

@shutterX: Thanks for your suggestion. You are right about the t-maxx being cheaper but. the difference is around 4-5k not very significant in my opinion.

@tassem:Yes! You are right i just heard the sound at the end of the tunnel  :P

From all your suggestions i understand this:

Ultimate for racing and decent amount of bashing: Revo 3.3
Ultimate for Bashing and not good on track: Savage 4.6
Jack of both: T-maxx

My thoughts are, when i am spending as much as 30k on a RC it makes sense to get something which is the best in one category and decent in others. so i am not very keen on buying the T-maxx. With either the Revo or the savage i will have to wait for a few months to be able to get them as it is 30k plus. Based on what i like i will decide and buy  :) also the difference between a Revo and the Savage is hardly anything  :)

Please feel free to correct me if my understanding of what each truck is good for, is wrong.

I'm glad you're choosing between the Revo and Savage.

You can't really say that the Savage is not good on track. What you can say is that its not 'as' good as the Revo. And that too only at times. What the Savage loses in terms of track stability, it makes up for in brute strength. Then again to truly compare the track ability of these trucks, you need to be an expert driver who can push them to their limits. Else they'll both be the same for you.

Look at it this way. Both of these trucks are excellent platforms for upgrades. And both of these trucks will deliver big time! Whichever you get, you can upgrade it to be the best of both worlds. And always remember that in any R/C car, the weakest link is usually the driver ;)

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agreed. but revo has a lower cg plus is lighter.. it should be better on the track.. but who wants to race these? these are monster trucks.. if you want a racer.. get a buggy or truggy...

Just had a word with the HPI dealer. he says the Savage is not gonna be available until May, all sold out :banghead:

I really want to see it once as i've already seen a revo and then decide on which truck i'm getting. Offcourse, in any case i've to wait for a month or two to make the purchase  :)

Did you speak with Manoj? When I picked up my Savage, he still had one left with him. If you just want to see it, I'm sure we can meet up one of the weekends so that you can check it out.

savage 2011 is gonna be nothing less than 40,000.

I doubt that it'll be that high. You mean the XL? The X has no significant upgrades to warrant that steep an increase in price. Except for the big bore shocks and the BP differential, there aren't any significant upgrades. They've played around with the colors of the aluminum parts and the wheels. But that's pretty much it I guess..

Are there any more upgrades?

@Himank: The dealer said nothing like that. he infact said it'll be priced similar may be a bit less too.

@Tassem: Yes i spoke to him only. he sold the last one this monday!!! My bad luck  :( we can sure meet up . Where do you stay ?

Oh ok.. I didn't know that he sold it. I stay at K Narayanpura near Hennur Gate. Its about 7 km from Kammanahalli.

Wow! that about ~25km from my house. When can we meet up?

How about next weekend?

cool... btw. i might be visiting blore soon.. when and where do rc folks meet and play? ill make it a point to meet up with you folks...

Hmmm.. I haven't really met anyone yet :D I just came to know a week ago that R/C is big in India! But I'm sure there will be events comin up soon.

@tassem: You mean 26th-27th ?

Bro- Mr. Biju is selling his Savage and MP777 buggy.. Let me know if you are interested.. Will get a deal done for you :)

@abovethelimit: I want a nitro for sure but I haven't decided between the savage or the revo.since I am new to nitro I would like to buy new only. Thanks for the offer :)

Not this weekend. I'll be out of town most probably. Next weekend..

Sure  :)

Hello shashank,
this is mean machines,we deal for hpi,traxxas and hpi cars.
PM me for more details 

Hey  ;D So its the Revo 3.3 !!!!! I was with jayanth until about 6.30 pm today. We did only about 2 tanks of break-in today. Rest will be done tomorrow and i can finally run my car  :) Right now i'm reading through the manual, and its booooring

COOL!!!!


you don't need the manual until something goes wrong ;)

Hey Congrats man! I'm sure you'll love it to death! Good decision!

And contrary to what Gandhar said, read the manual till your eyes bleed! I'm sure he wants to sabotage you so that you go the brushless route :P For nitros manuals are the bible!! :D

@Gandhar: I love your signature man! lmao! If it wasn't blasphemy, I would've said Chuck Norris is the Rajni of the west :D

@gandhar: Thanks man. looking forward to meet you sometime soon.

@Tassem: Thanks. I am reading the "bible" right now. Its pretty good. Well written and explained with diagrams. If you can come to the track this weekend we can meet up. I'll be there this weekend. Would love to see the savage. Read a lot about it.

I don't think I'll be in town this weekend. But if it gets canceled I'll be sure to show up. Put up some pics of the Revo!!

@tassem: The car's with jayanth. Couldn't take the car today and since i had to carry it back tomorrow i left it at his place. Will try to pu up pics tomorrow. :)

Oh ok.. Is he running it in for you then? I'd suggest you be there when its being tuned. It's good to watch and learn as you will need to do it yourself eventually..

Tassem,you got a psychological degree or what?? ;D Oh and brushless motors don't need to be broken in AND they are programmable(just kidding :) ). :P ;D


Just joking with you man.I too read the manual the moment I got home.I liked my slash's manual.Quite clear.The exploded views help a lot.Saved me lots of trouble.


If possible,get some video of the break in and tuning.

lol.. I gotta be honest with you. If Brushless trucks sounded, smelt and had a smoke trail like nitro, I would choose it over nitro any day because I wont have to tune it or clean up the gunk :D

Brushless is easier to run, maintain and more powerful. But it just doesn't have the feel somehow. You know what I mean? There's something about a nitro rushing towards you bellowing smoke and the 2 stroker screaming its lungs out that makes a guy go weak in the knees ;)

But my next car will be a brushless for sure. I don't think I'll go the LiPo route though. I find 40mph fast enough to excite me and keep the damages to a minimum at the same time ;) I'll prolly buy a used nitro savage and get the conversion kit. That oughta keep costs down.

well........I find the sound of a sintered neodymium rotor spinning at 30,000 rpm heavenly. ;D


Anyways,nitro is always fun.Never smelt it yet but it must be fun to run a nitro.I think there was something at HK that would recreate the sound of a nitro in an electric.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9031


I would go for the machinegun sounds ;D

Yup there's just nothing like a nitro truck, though electrics are faster, cleaner and easier on maintenance the feel of a nitro truck is completely different. Even if you are a mere spectator. Since we love the sound, smell and feel of a nitro, after-run maintenance is not a pain.

It sucks to sit and read through this manual after having bought the car. But anyway, less than 20 hrs before i can run it  :)

I was with him during break-in. I am proud to say that every time the truck stalled i re-started it with the glow plug :) :) will be present for the 3 tank break-in and the tuning to be done after it, tomorrow.

@Gandhar: How's the Slash doing ? Took it to the track yet ?

Its doing good.Its in hibernation.I'm sounding like a broken record but will take it to the track after exams.

Lol.. I'm sure you do.. It's something like a turbo spooling up? A nice whine.


I'm happy for you. Though I don't think you've been reading the manual intently and that you're dreaming of the car while reading it. Else you would've known the difference between a glow plug and an Ez Starter :P

Get back to that manual now!

Oh yeah, try n grab some videos of the tuning process.

Better than a turbo spooling up.But nothing feels better when the turbo spools up when you're driving ;D

Amen to that! But the lag is not something that I look forward to.

Yup. :)


Sorry to hijack your thread Shashank  :P

Man! You really do know how to guess what one's upto by reading a  few lines.
Its the very first manual i'm making a sincere attempt to finish reading. Damn! I didn't even read my D-SLR manual. Too bad i don't know the difference between the two. But actually i'm still reading that initial bit. Which explains carburator etc. I just flipped through the pages. ez-start is much later in the manual  :)

Absolutely no problem :) the ford figo has zero or no turbo lag at all. Wonder how it manages that. The brushless sounds something similar to the turbo spooling up.

The ritz diesel has very less lag too.Once it kicks in,you're kicked back in your seat.Damn its good. ;D.


I really want a turbo on my dad's I20 but he won't stick one in.No mods :( .

If the manufacturer doesn't provide a turbo its best left as it is. I don't think its a good idea to go for an after-market turbo  :)
Ritz diesel has the "national engine" 1.3 multijet from Fiat.

BTW back to the topic to be discussed, my manual reading has gone pretty well. 30/47 pages done. Hopefully finish the remaining by 5 :)

lol.. The question not how many pages you finished. The question is how much you remember :p

btw, aftermarket turbo installation is not a taboo these days. Red Rooster does a fabulous job! Don't ask me how I know ;)

How much i remember is a big question mark. Lets see how much i understand when he explains all of it.  :)

lol.. nitro is not as difficult as people make it out to be. Just ensure that you see smoke. Contrary to life, smoke means things are safe in a nitro engine. You don't really have to tune it to perfection. Run it a tad rich.

Guys lets not deviate the topic from its title....It might get a lil dizzy for others.
Why not start a new one... ;)

Its been sometime since i posted. Was out of town for 2 days. The revo has done about 8 tanks. One word sums up my experience. MIND BLOWING! Tried tuning the high speed needle after the 8th tank and its almost uncontrollable. The beast unleashed! Revo 3.3 came to life !! Hope to take it to the track tomorrow :) else i'll build my own track here  :P

@traxxrc1: Sure :) may be i should start a new thread to put down my experience with the Revo

please do. :)