RC India
Welcome Guest, please login or register.
 
Pages: [1]   Go Down
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. Topic Tools Topic Tools 
Read
« on: April 22, 2010, 08:55:09 PM »
speedracer
Plane Lover
Forum Veteran

****

Reputation Power: 6 
speedracer has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: delhi
State: Delhi
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 493
Join Date: Feb, 2010

No one Learns flying without crashing




I wanted to know about the types of engines ( diesel or petrol) that can be used to replace a .21 size nitro engine in a car.

Links will be highly appreciated.

Also if any one has any engine for sale that can be used in the place of .21 size nitro engine then please reply with sevral pics and details of the engine...



Regards



Kartik
« Last Edit: April 22, 2010, 08:56:47 PM by speedracer » Logged

Ideas Are Bulletproof.....
 

Read
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2010, 09:01:53 PM »
mail4ajo
Car Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 12 
mail4ajo has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Chennai
State: Tamil Nadu
RC Skills: Advanced
Posts: 972
Join Date: May, 2009

Mugen Seiki Rules



I wanted to know about the types of engines ( diesel or petrol) that can be used to replace a .21 size nitro engine in a car.

Links will be highly appreciated.

Also if any one has any engine for sale that can be used in the place of .21 size nitro engine then please reply with sevral pics and details of the engine...



Regards



Kartik

Sorry buddy you cannot really replace the .21 engine (3.5cc) with petrol. The smallest you can get in Petrol is 23cc (heard of a 21cc too). You need a bigger car.

You can try diesel conversion, What happened? Fed up with tuning or fuel cost?
Logged

*Mugen Seiki MBX7 with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen Seiki MBX6T M-Spec with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen MBX6 Eco with Mamba Monster 2200kv*
*HPI Mini Recon with BL system*
*Team Losi 1/24 rally*
*Team Associated RC8 onroad GT Car, Team Orion power system coming soon...
*Hobbyking 1/18 Rally Extreme BL*
*Sanwa MT-4 radio*
Previously owned - Mugen Seiki MBX6 M-Spec, Thunder Tiger MTA4 S50, ST-1, Sparrowhawk XB, HPI BAJA 5Bss, TRAXXAS REVO 3.3
 

Read
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2010, 09:08:13 PM »
speedracer
Plane Lover
Forum Veteran

****

Reputation Power: 6 
speedracer has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: delhi
State: Delhi
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 493
Join Date: Feb, 2010

No one Learns flying without crashing



I wanted to know about the types of engines ( diesel or petrol) that can be used to replace a .21 size nitro engine in a car.

Links will be highly appreciated.

Also if any one has any engine for sale that can be used in the place of .21 size nitro engine then please reply with sevral pics and details of the engine...



Regards



Kartik

Sorry buddy you cannot really replace the .21 engine (3.5cc) with petrol. The smallest you can get in Petrol is 23cc (heard of a 21cc too). You need a bigger car.

You can try diesel conversion, What happened? Fed up with tuning or fuel cost?

Both tuning  and fuel cost are an issue also the maintainance is big point for moving towards other types of engines even if i run the engine for a minute i need 1/2 an hour just to empty the fuel tank then adding after run oil etc.Just got fed up of this but can you suggest the diesel engine to be used or how to convert it.


Thanks for your reply



Regards


Kartik
« Last Edit: April 22, 2010, 09:37:56 PM by speedracer » Logged

Ideas Are Bulletproof.....
 

Read
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2010, 09:14:26 PM »
mail4ajo
Car Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 12 
mail4ajo has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Chennai
State: Tamil Nadu
RC Skills: Advanced
Posts: 972
Join Date: May, 2009

Mugen Seiki Rules



Why do you need half an hour to empty tank? Use a fuel pump for 800Rs. A 150ml tank can be emptied in minutes. You needn't add after run oil , if you are going to use next week.

Use only for long term storage. Kill your engine by pinching fuel line to ensure no fuel in the cylinder. Fuel cost, is an concern, needs to come down to international prices soon.

Tuning is an art, will learn with experience. Maintainence is the fun part of this hobby. If you want less or no Maintainence, go for electric. Petrol also needs Maintainence.
Logged

*Mugen Seiki MBX7 with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen Seiki MBX6T M-Spec with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen MBX6 Eco with Mamba Monster 2200kv*
*HPI Mini Recon with BL system*
*Team Losi 1/24 rally*
*Team Associated RC8 onroad GT Car, Team Orion power system coming soon...
*Hobbyking 1/18 Rally Extreme BL*
*Sanwa MT-4 radio*
Previously owned - Mugen Seiki MBX6 M-Spec, Thunder Tiger MTA4 S50, ST-1, Sparrowhawk XB, HPI BAJA 5Bss, TRAXXAS REVO 3.3
 

Read
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2010, 09:19:09 PM »
speedracer
Plane Lover
Forum Veteran

****

Reputation Power: 6 
speedracer has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: delhi
State: Delhi
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 493
Join Date: Feb, 2010

No one Learns flying without crashing




And do you know how to convert it to diesel or the engines that are available in market i know about sharma model jodhpur but is there any other manifacturer.


Thanks again


Regards


Kartik
« Last Edit: April 27, 2010, 06:09:02 PM by anwar » Logged

Ideas Are Bulletproof.....
 

Read
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2010, 06:02:39 PM »
karthikr_2922
Car Lover
Active Member

**

Reputation Power: 1 
karthikr_2922 has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Bangalore
State: Karnataka
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 65
Join Date: Nov, 2009



@speedracer :All these so called difficulties which you have quoted is what makes this hobby worthwhile and satisfying. I can only agree to your point on the pricing of the fuel.

My view ...!
Logged

2008 Thunder Tiger ST1 27 Mhz
2010 Thunder Tiger Tomahawk ST 2.4Ghz
2012 Thunder Tiger Ducati Nitro Desmo 2.4GHz
 

Read
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2010, 06:28:16 PM »
speedracer
Plane Lover
Forum Veteran

****

Reputation Power: 6 
speedracer has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: delhi
State: Delhi
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 493
Join Date: Feb, 2010

No one Learns flying without crashing



@speedracer :All these so called difficulties which you have quoted is what makes this hobby worthwhile and satisfying. I can only agree to your point on the pricing of the fuel.

My view ...!

true

so i changed my plan of converting it will buy a diesel engine when this one goes off......which will take a lot of time thanks and also now the fuel cost me ~Rs 300 per liter i fabricate it myself i have recently made 30% nitro fuel for my truck and it runs really great.....


Regards


Kartik
Logged

Ideas Are Bulletproof.....
 

Read
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2010, 06:50:48 PM »
mail4ajo
Car Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 12 
mail4ajo has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Chennai
State: Tamil Nadu
RC Skills: Advanced
Posts: 972
Join Date: May, 2009

Mugen Seiki Rules



true

so i changed my plan of converting it will buy a diesel engine when this one goes off......which will take a lot of time thanks and also now the fuel cost me ~Rs 300 per liter i fabricate it myself i have recently made 30% nitro fuel for my truck and it runs really great.....


You can get high quality imported 16% nitro premixed fuel at 450Rs a litre and 25% at 500Rs. Why do you want to take chances with own fuel? You will end up spending more time on maintaining and tuning your engine with local fuel.

Local methanol and castor oil will be of a lower quality as compared to the premixed fuel.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2010, 07:06:17 PM by anwar » Logged

*Mugen Seiki MBX7 with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen Seiki MBX6T M-Spec with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen MBX6 Eco with Mamba Monster 2200kv*
*HPI Mini Recon with BL system*
*Team Losi 1/24 rally*
*Team Associated RC8 onroad GT Car, Team Orion power system coming soon...
*Hobbyking 1/18 Rally Extreme BL*
*Sanwa MT-4 radio*
Previously owned - Mugen Seiki MBX6 M-Spec, Thunder Tiger MTA4 S50, ST-1, Sparrowhawk XB, HPI BAJA 5Bss, TRAXXAS REVO 3.3
 

Read
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2010, 08:18:41 PM »
speedracer
Plane Lover
Forum Veteran

****

Reputation Power: 6 
speedracer has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: delhi
State: Delhi
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 493
Join Date: Feb, 2010

No one Learns flying without crashing



can you give me some links from where can i get them   Cheesy

Regards


Kartik

Logged

Ideas Are Bulletproof.....
 

Read
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2010, 10:43:40 PM »
mail4ajo
Car Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 12 
mail4ajo has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Chennai
State: Tamil Nadu
RC Skills: Advanced
Posts: 972
Join Date: May, 2009

Mugen Seiki Rules



www.bombayrc.com
ModelArt Bangalore
Logged

*Mugen Seiki MBX7 with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen Seiki MBX6T M-Spec with Novarossi P5 engine*
*Mugen MBX6 Eco with Mamba Monster 2200kv*
*HPI Mini Recon with BL system*
*Team Losi 1/24 rally*
*Team Associated RC8 onroad GT Car, Team Orion power system coming soon...
*Hobbyking 1/18 Rally Extreme BL*
*Sanwa MT-4 radio*
Previously owned - Mugen Seiki MBX6 M-Spec, Thunder Tiger MTA4 S50, ST-1, Sparrowhawk XB, HPI BAJA 5Bss, TRAXXAS REVO 3.3
 

Read
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2010, 11:47:34 PM »
xplosifly
Car Lover
Senior Member
***

Reputation Power: 3 
xplosifly has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Mumbai
State: Maharashtra
RC Skills: Advanced
Posts: 140
Join Date: Apr, 2010



Well the Best Replacement for a Nitro Engine would be convert your r/c car into an Electric!!!!

I did it to my 1:8 Scale Buggy and trust me, running on batteries with a high end motor + esc combo is as fast as a nitro.
Also it reduces all the tuning headache as well as the mess thats associated with fuel. I no longer need to carry fuel, booster or ne messy glow plugs, just need to get my lipos charged and balanced.

The cost of converting a 1:8 buggy to an electric ranges from 15-20k depending on what kind of system you buy.
The leading Motor+Esc combos offered are by brands such as:
Team Tekin
Team Novak
Castle Creations

A wide variety of other low end chinese systems are also available.
Logged

DJI MAVIC AIR
 

Read
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2010, 05:02:31 PM »
traxxrc1
Car Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 18 
traxxrc1 has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Ghaziabad
State: Uttar Pradesh
RC Skills: Advanced
Posts: 1484
Join Date: Aug, 2010



please dont think to convert to diesel
Logged

I'll be back.
 

Read
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2010, 05:24:33 PM »
traxxrc1
Car Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 18 
traxxrc1 has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Ghaziabad
State: Uttar Pradesh
RC Skills: Advanced
Posts: 1484
Join Date: Aug, 2010



diesel no way...
because its atleast 5 kilos heavy with all other needies,atleast 45-50cc and a good one for atleast 40 000 rupees.
even petrol is expensicve and big, but smaller than diesel and easily available,
best one that i personally suggest is the one on  my HPI BAJA 5T i.e. FUELIE's 26cc gas engine.  amazing torque..really mindblowing, good speed (around 75 kmph). cost for around RS 30000. but can fit only on a 1/5 scale buggy/truggy/desert truck

i therefore advice you to go for a electric conversion.
go for a castle creation's mamba monster maxx 4600kV 550 motor
or a BLUR system
both these are used as stock electronics on Traxxas E-revo BL link edtion and HPI savage flux HP 2.4ghz
both cost around 15000 + shipping from US and Custom  duty

U can use a 6S(two 3S) Lipo (22.2V) on them, and clock speed of upto 130kmph
but better to use a 4s(two 2S) as the drive shaft will not be able to handle that much power

Trst me.both these systems will let your car perform better than a NITRo
Logged

I'll be back.
 

Read
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2010, 05:26:45 PM »
traxxrc1
Car Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 18 
traxxrc1 has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Ghaziabad
State: Uttar Pradesh
RC Skills: Advanced
Posts: 1484
Join Date: Aug, 2010



i mean Castle Creation's Mamba Monster Maxx 4600kV 550 size motor + esc combo, and the cost reffered in 4th paragraph is for these brushless combos
Logged

I'll be back.
 

Pages: [1]   Go Up
Jump to:  

Related Topics
Subject Started by Replies Views Last post
Usage of nitro in glow engines
Fuel and Engines
anwar 11 22796 Last post October 08, 2009, 03:52:56 PM
by sushil_anand
Starting engines after a long time « 1 2  All »
Fuel and Engines
anwar 36 43750 Last post October 06, 2012, 03:34:34 PM
by AEROVISHWA
Routine care for nitro and gas engines « 1 2  All »
Fuel and Engines
anwar 49 76730 Last post April 14, 2014, 10:27:42 PM
by sundaram
Important Tips for maintenance of Nitro Engines.
Cars
Jester 0 4198 Last post January 22, 2012, 10:54:52 AM
by Jester
Producing Smoke in Nitro/Glow Engines
RC Maneuvers and Skills
shauviks 1 4363 Last post June 17, 2013, 01:35:14 PM
by Nithinraj Kotian