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Title: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: DroneAcharya on July 09, 2015, 09:52:01 PM
Whats gonna happen to us?  :banghead: What do we clean hobbyists do in this situation? Any expert comments pls...


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: aniket210696 on July 09, 2015, 10:14:18 PM
basically in maharashtra you're a criminal if you're flying a quad whilst eating a hamburger :)


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: DroneAcharya on July 09, 2015, 10:33:14 PM
Seriously! Frivolous stuff happening around. I had a question.. Does this ban only extend to those doing FPV or flying quads/planes with Cameras or EVERY unmanned aerial vehicle?

And for the ones flying their quads while snacking on burgers, God help them!!!


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: aniket210696 on July 09, 2015, 10:37:59 PM
et tu ironman? :o

Does this ban only extend to those doing FPV or flying quads/planes with Cameras or EVERY unmanned aerial vehicle?

depends on the mood of the police i guess.... :/


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: rajsachdev on July 09, 2015, 11:07:40 PM
Just seeing a multirotor fly people think of word 'drone' and this word conjures up fear! when will people understand its just a hobby! not everyone who flies drone is doing something antisocial! but who will educate the authorities? We should put up some kinda petition on change.org or somewhere and hope we, the hobbyist are heard. Need of the hour is responsible flying, but there will always be few who will flout the norms for few quick bucks and make others suffer as a consequence.

 


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: sunilmark2012 on July 10, 2015, 02:00:45 PM
I've purchased drone 2 days back and got worried now.


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: SuperCheap on July 10, 2015, 06:35:21 PM
Same BAN in delhi too....Why DGCA is not coming up withe guidelines? They said in march that it will be out soon but no guidelines yet.


Title: Re:
Post by: rcrcnitesh on July 10, 2015, 07:07:18 PM
@rajasachdev you are saying that we should put a petition in change.org why don't you do it? I will sign the petition and ask all my friends to sign the petition or better I will myself put up the petition.


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: sharlock on July 10, 2015, 10:06:28 PM
I dont think by signing a petition will help the DGCA to move & take steps to get this issue resolved, but how would such a ban help the Govt... I just simply don't understand.


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: rajsachdev on July 13, 2015, 12:13:46 PM
@rcrcnitesh if it were a technical write up I could easily have but have no idea how to word/ draft a petition! If you can then please draft one and share on a new thread so everyone can give their inputs and make this petition a strong one.


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: Rao on July 13, 2015, 12:27:17 PM
Does UAV include RC planes and helicopters as well.
What about photographers and videographers who use these multi rotors so extensively to cover functions. Do they need special licenses.


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: Darshan for multirotors on July 13, 2015, 03:03:38 PM
Does UAV include RC planes and helicopters as well.
What about photographers and videographers who use these multi rotors so extensively to cover functions. Do they need special licenses.

i guess no planes , helis maybe (especially those with fpv/cameras)
I think they shouldnt put a ban on non camera quads/multirotors
cause its true as you said many people depend on this for their daily earning
License i guess is now necessary for  this
damn the guy from housing.com, he got us all in trouble
:banghead:


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: DroneAcharya on July 13, 2015, 09:39:13 PM
Need more inputs from friends around...

@ Darshan : Are u saying that RC Planes will stay banned and only Multirotors used for filming and FPV may be allowed or the other way around?

Also the idea of the Petition is brilliant and a request to anyone who can lead us with the same so that things can start looking forward. From what i read and hear in the news, it seems very convenient for the government to continue the ban so that they can generate more revenue by introducing licenses which will unnecessary burden all of us enthusiasts, not to mention the corruption in our country.

REQUEST TO THE ADMIN TO KINDLY MAKE THIS A STICKY SO WE CAN HAVE MORE VIEWS AND INPUTS

(Apologize for the use of all caps above.. Just wanted to get that line noticed)

Thanks


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: SuperCheap on July 13, 2015, 09:58:46 PM
Who's the admin of the forum?


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: HAnzroh on July 13, 2015, 10:38:35 PM
Hi. Im new here and just getting into RC. Built my own scratch built and want to fly it.. Some tests done in the confines of my colony but need to do more in bigger space and this ban thing is scary..

Whats to be done?

Thanks


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: Darshan for multirotors on July 13, 2015, 10:49:26 PM
Drone acharya I mean the other way round
Currently multirotors are completely banned (well if not completely mostly the aerial photography one as they have caused a lot if trouble now a days)
People should understand that it's just a hobby and it shouldn't be used to exploit or threaten or take away somebody's peace
I hop the DGCA will soon lift this ban and we can fly again


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: SanamMarik on July 14, 2015, 12:02:10 AM
I am sorry if this sounds harsh but I am looking at it from a neutral point-

This ban can prove to be a good step in anti-social acts, however, Licence should be granted to the people who are not anti-social. Parameters can b set so that license can b issued based on that.

think of a situation when a guy sitting on a boat on the ocean drops bombs on the city's specific location using a heli/quad and a cam. this aint v unlikely imo with the knowledge I have. Please dont forget the the anti social people's ideas are far destructive than aam janta's constructive ideas and they got good Intel too.

So, the final verdict is "U can put a ban only if u can issue license for the aam janta who r not a threat to the society".


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: Mightisright on July 17, 2015, 10:54:40 AM
I guess, letting people drive cars is far more dangerous than that, given the last terrorism incedent that happened in Mumbai.
They should ban cars !


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: HAnzroh on July 17, 2015, 11:00:05 AM
Ha Ha

Very well said MightisRight. I hope something is done about this soon... I have just got into RC and stay in Mumbai. Made my own scratchbuild a few days ago and dont know where to test it..


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: globalmilind on July 17, 2015, 11:14:39 AM
Great job dear Hanzroh!
This is so cute! Would love to see it fly!

If you show this to DGCA or similar authorities, they will just say 'BANNED', that too without any reason, just banned.
They will say your plane is potential threat to Nation blah blah blah......

Anyway, great efforts pal! :hatsoff:


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: HAnzroh on July 17, 2015, 11:20:59 AM
Thank you so much Milind. Appreciation  and encouragement from an experienced member from this forum means a lot to me..

i tried a test run on my building terrace as discreetly as i could but having problems with take off..

I dont want to hijack this forum topic so if you could send me ur email id i will send u complete specs and config of my twin boom and maybe u could recommend and suggest something..

Thanks again..


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: Swapnil on July 17, 2015, 11:43:57 AM
@HAnzroh

Why not start a new thread in the electric planes section here and we can all chip in with our thoughts. That twin boom looks like a really good build! Would like to see and read more about it. Good job! :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: HAnzroh on July 17, 2015, 01:12:35 PM
@ Swapnil

Im gonna do that right now... i do need your support

Thank you so much


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: HAnzroh on July 17, 2015, 01:53:34 PM
Hi Milind, Swapnil..

Please check my post in Electric planes as below...

http://www.rcindia.org/electric-planes/need-help-new-twin-boom-scratchbuild-%27the-red-snapper%27/msg231796/#new

Will await your expert feedback

Thank you so much!

Cheerz

P.S. Sorry DroneAcharya for hijacking this thread



Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: sidnov on July 17, 2015, 02:14:14 PM
if anyone has started a petition on the topic....pls let me know as  I am dying to fly a quadcopter....


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: HAnzroh on July 17, 2015, 02:19:44 PM
How do we do this?

Would Change.org work?

We may need a senior member leading us...


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: sidnov on July 17, 2015, 02:54:16 PM
Change.org does bring a change


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: sidnov on July 17, 2015, 02:57:36 PM
we got to form an organization first, then we gotta gather members from all over india, gaining support...everything online


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: shobhit17 on July 17, 2015, 03:44:37 PM
Well we do have a few Organisation available to us called the Aeromodellers Association of India and Wings India.  Both are owned and operated by respected and reputed people.....  I guess it is time for them to step in and get the things opened up for the well meaning Aeromodellers in India.  A few of the important links of the association and similar associations are given here:-
http://www.amai.in/
http://www.amai.in/whyama.php
http://www.amai.in/india.php
http://www.rcindia.org/rc-locations-and-clubs/recognition-of-aero-modellers-association-of-india-%28n-delhi%29-by-aci/
http://www.iacvirar.com/
http://aerosports.co.in/aeromodelling
http://www.wingindia.com/
https://www.facebook.com/chdaero

An important link about clubs.... http://www.rc-airplane-world.com/india-rc-airplane-clubs.html

Guess these bigwings are the solution and they should step in now.  We know many of these people and some of them are members here.  Members who are associated with these organisations please Stand Up and take charge of the incorrect perception of the hobby and get all the well meaning people here to join into a group or some of the regional group to safeguard interests and follow the rules and guidelines strictly.

Guess thats the only future of this Hobby.


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: HAnzroh on July 17, 2015, 04:11:47 PM
That's wonderful Shobhit.. I'm in!

Let's get this going..


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: sidnov on July 17, 2015, 05:09:44 PM
where to start with??


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: shobhit17 on July 17, 2015, 06:19:32 PM
These big organisarions must stand up.... or else we must call them and ask them whats happeneing about the future of this hobby.....


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: Dharmik on July 17, 2015, 06:29:08 PM
I don't think even any big organization exist in India and have any control over these things.


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: shobhit17 on July 17, 2015, 07:51:08 PM
The AMA is affiliated to the Aero Club of India..... which was once upon a time patronised by Mr Sanjay Gandhi.  The Aero Club of India does hold a lot of clout in the power circles of India.


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: shobhit17 on July 17, 2015, 07:56:00 PM
Please read this....
http://www.amai.in/docs/AMA_WINGS.pdf


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: Dharmik on July 17, 2015, 07:58:48 PM
That might be true but i don't see their inputs. i believe we lost chance to save this hobby and it's slipped from our hands since readymade brands jumped into the market. One brand is held responsible for all these. i saw many news and videos and i always see one name that i don't want to post here. We have to stop relying on readymade brands to fulfill our dreams in short time else there is no future for this wonderful and knowledgeable hobby.


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: shobhit17 on July 17, 2015, 08:50:09 PM
Well.... greed and easy money availability of people.... coupled with a lazy attitude of buying ready to fly models...... and there are a host of others here on thei forum who think that they can make the best UAV or whatever they wish call them.... in actual case they can not even get an aeroplane model in the air.... the have also brought in a bad name...

Lets all try and ask these organisations to take the case and make the Guidelines for same conduct of the hobby.. people not adhering to the guidelines can be taken to task by the law.


Title: Re:
Post by: sidnov on July 23, 2015, 09:35:18 PM
refer to new topic.....petition on change. org successfully .....pls sign guys...


Title: Re: Blanket Ban for Unmanned aerial vehicles in Maharastra???
Post by: PiyushI on July 25, 2015, 05:03:04 PM
Though its few days passed and many could signed but still posting for who might not seen.

https://www.change.org/p/directorate-general-of-civil-aviation-form-rules-for-uav-flying-as-a-recreational-hobby (https://www.change.org/p/directorate-general-of-civil-aviation-form-rules-for-uav-flying-as-a-recreational-hobby)