Just saw one of the threads where the erudite gentleman had written

"electric 1s r fast... but nitro's r ma favourite & currently workin' on

"dont dey give glow

"thnx dhinesh... i lyked dat car

"i wud lyk to electric

and to top it off:

"dats da rule... but thnx 4 da reply


Wow! There's a theory (actually more of a theorem now) that you can write a sentence without vowels, and it would still be readable and make sense.

Anyway, "thnx for da payshunsh in read dis"   

HEHEHE...... Well, its true. I had read about this somewhere where it says that there has been a survey done with thousands of people and at the end it was confirmed that our human brains are so fast that while reading something we do regularly, even though the letters in a words are interchanged making sure that the first and last letter are placed correctly, while reading the brain actually ignore the correct spelling and interprets the word by reading the first and last character.

The most shocking thing is that it is said a normal human uses just 2-3% of what a human brain can do.

People who were able to use about 4 and max 5% are people like Einstein.

We cannot even in the wildest of our dream also think what can be done if we could use 50% or full 100% of our brain power.

Maybe we could vanish or tele-port or what not.

LOL!

Or even better, think so fast that we actually cross the speed of light through sheer conversion of grey matter cells into energy and evaporate into the next dimension!

They do teach grammar and spelling in school although most kids are "too cool for it".

If you thought that was bad, take a look at FB profiles of teenagers. As a 17 y/o, I have many friends in the same age group and most of them type like that. I use FB to keep in touch with RC related activities. My news feed was clogged with so much junk from those people that I had to "un-friend" most of them. Boy am I happy I did it.

It pains me, so see such rubbish, and I remember all the Knuckle Raps by Miss Aloisias (My Grammar teacher). There aren't anymore dedicated grammar classes that i see in my Son/daughter's timetable and i distinctly remember of having 5-7 grammar classes a week (in, today's lingo, we all used to literally s**t in our pants when she walked in).

Yes, Sanjay, you are right, they aren't teaching Grammar anymore in schools, and those products you get to see here too, Al da Kool Dudes  

PS
Ask Anwar, he is at his wits end

PPS

Seriously!! what does this mean ? my grey matter couldn't get your wannabe Kool sentence, especially da 'P' word
  

Patience, Gusty, patience.............................give them some time to grow up.

what is is is
jo hai wo hai

This thread is turning out to be interesting.....

But seriously, it took me quite a while to actually understand what did "payshunsh" mean and had to read this work a couple of times and try to pronounce it and then finally because of my "PATIENCE" to understand the work, I came to know it was "PATIENCE".

LOL!

Who said this ?
I have learned ABCD in Class 6 officially as per syllabus of West Bengal board of Secondary Education. Then what can you expect from me. Thank god that I have learn some English at home.
I have also opened Facebook account just to block my name, nothing else.

And some of my friends are still learning to minimize post in Facebook and how to avoid grammer
Among them, one have only one year service remaining and still good in drafting. Who cares about the future ?

I have been warning people once, and then deleting their posts/threads when it gets to be too much.  I urge other mods to do the same.  We are not in the guessing business, and if one does not spend a few seconds extra typing out proper words, I am not sure this forum is for them.  After all, they are not writing essays here... it is a few sentences a day, which means literally only a few seconds extra is needed to do it right. 

Facebook friends and people who read their SMSes may have such patience, we don't.

>

Time for some action...

I tend to empathize with both camps - it pains me to see
what passes as English these days  .... But...

on the other hand having a teenage son on the premises
I think that this is their way of rebelling ... being different
from their elders. Not that they couldn't communicate in proper
English if they wanted to.

I am just thankful that their rebelling takes this relatively
harmless form and not drugs or violence.  Overall its nothing
to lose sleep about.

Saikat da!
While I tend to think similar, I have seen for want of proper communication people have landed themselves in embarrassing situation and sometimes important items have  landed at a place they weren't intend to, communication is only complete, especially a broadcast communication like these, if the whole population understands it, else it is garbage.

Gusty: Get widdit bro...Payshuns and patience, patiently

Sanjay

Wow! This is now getting warm! Anwar, I only meant it as a general comment; kids will be kids, and times, as Dylan said, are a'changing.

That said, the primary function of language is communication, and this is a serious forum, for "masti" you do have FB. Therefore, a certain discipline and decorum, without being Draconian about it, is certainly not amiss.

Thanks all, and I hope this discussion does continue, makes a little change in the Angle of Attack at full revs! 

Sanjay

http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/volitation-dh-3789-mini-rc-heli-for-sale/msg123076/#msg123076


superb grammer in this new post   

Anwar's post seems to be the only option left with the mods. Any other suggestions - out of the box perhaps?
Maybe a "warning" in the dialog box used to type/create posts?

I like SMS language. Its short and easy to type, however i do not use it on online forums.
I have nothing against SMS lingo, but users posting on a platform used by a large group ought to spend some time making their posts understandable.

My point is not about grammer, it is against SMS language.  People have varying levels of grammer skills, that is understood.  They are related though, use of SMS lingo causes grammer to deteriorate.

As a matter of policy, it is SMS language that we don't want to see here.  Mistakes in grammer are much less of a concern.

Use of SMS language is totally about people being LAZY... nothing more, nothing less.

+1. Not everyone can converse/express themselves in English fluently due to several reasons and it should not be held against them.

Not being able to spare time to type complete words yet expecting everyone to jump out and help is what i would like to see a change in.

"Payshuns and patience" is nowhere a sms language ...... its just a person poor on spellings disguising and ignoring his short coming... in other words..... yes TOO LAZY to correct

how could one misspell a word when auto spell check is employed ? If i misspell a word I immediately get warned and the correct word spell is also provided. It is plain lazyness.

Yo Ol Dudes! We nid to thrash dis issue once n 4 all. R we ready 2 accept dis new lingo on da forum? If not, lets b clear abt dat in no uncertain terms. Da new kids bring in new ideas and points f view. We ol fogeys have to adjust n appreciate. While we argue abt da English language, dey (da younglings wid bad grammar) fly rings around us on d field. Dey r like a breath f fresh air. Sumtimes 2 brash n 2 bold - I admit.

+ 1 to the 'younglings".

P.S. I advocate the use of 'correct' English as a language in my professional capabilities but I'm learning from the younglings about flying and RC.

P.P.S As I may have said before, this is not an English Language forum.

My apologies to the gentry that I may offend with this post.....

Point to ponder : In all other similar International Forums, sms / text/truncated English language is not used or accepted. Just F.Y.I.

VC really seems to have the last word on this, with the rider thrown in!

Its rightly as mentioned by Anwar, its not the grammar that anyone is against its "the intentional exclusion of the Same is the Shame" somebody who cant speak english too well may have grammatical mistakes in a post... my suggestion is that even MODs can correct for the sake of the forum. We have a report button and can report a post thats need correction.
But a selfish me, myself, my spelling... is not accepted..

PS. I lost my Blackberry and was reduced to a 'basic' phone with no predictive tex.. dictionary.. I refused to send text msgs because of the pain in typing and also the temptation to eat up my alphabets, i stuck with the accepted ' U for 'you' 2 for to and 4- for.

well the bottom line... lazy posts not allowed and there should be measures to keep this out of the forum.

This is one big reason I have been "Idi-Amin"ish on this SMS issue.  It is done by other forums for very valid reasons, and our decision is validated based on the same history. 

And one final time, we are not the grammer police... we are the SMS lingo police.

A humble request to anwar sir.Atleast make hindi a secondary language on this forum.Atleast paint this forum with some indianism.

While I personally use (and I like to use) Hindi as much as I can, it takes away from the clarity of communication on this forum.  Another problem is the audience (not just national, but international too), who do not speak/understand Hindi. It just muddies the water even more. "Indianism" has not much to do with using Hindi, in the context of a forum like this (which is open to the whole world).

In short, it is neither practical nor common-sense.

I didnt say abolish english.just telling that.you can add to the rules that-though it is advised to communicate in english.hindi is allowed for posts.

If Hindi were to be allowed, everybody would use it. That would defeat the purpose of the forum as this is not a language specific forum.

It wont.How does language add to rcing?

This is one of the famous forum of one of the south east asian nation, people from all over the world frequent this forum, only to look into quality stuff. though this thread will have limited audience (Not very by our standards, this one has over 25,000 hits and a fairly new thread) quality thread will have much more hits, local issues, not connected anyway to international audience could be discussed in hindi, i guess.

Bottom line is 'Hindi' (typed in hindi and not in Hinglish) could be allowed, for Anwar Bhai's consideration, i remember having posted in tamil and of course a translation too.

PS
will i be stoned for this?

PPS
In school i studied English tamil and French, no Hindi, so for me it still is limited to reading a few words with some difficulty

Why muddy the waters, and take away from the focus/character that we have now ? 

It is absurd to imagine that people will actually take the pain to post in Hindi, using  Hindi alphabets, and Hindi written using English alphabets is worse than SMS language to read !

In short, this is "a forum in English, focusing on India".  Period.

gusty sir-

+1 rcpilotacro

though i had preferred strict English, language of ur choice with mandatory english translation  is apparently a good solution , especially in case where one believes his grammar to be so pathetic that another language could possibly aid coherency of the post  ......

But then how many would be willing for such extra labour ??

Though i dont see much of 'international' audience here.Even if it is there.we have google translation.if the information is very important one can easily translate the whole forum to english(google translate)
'PYASA KUE KE PAAS JATA HEI,KUA PYASE KE PAAS NAHI'

kartikmadhira have u tried G translation dear??

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Beginners... Start Here : The RC India Gems !          शुरुआती ... यहाँ शुरू: RC भारत रत्न!

Bharat ratna... omg

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संहिताओं  शान्नोन ....... what do these words mean?? even a hindi professor from hindu university will find it difficult task 

टॉवर शौक से आदेश द्वारा dhineshkk ( आर सी दुकानों और पुनर्विक्रेताओं )..... i first thought someone was givig commands from a tower.... oh god

its ordering from tower hobbies

home work for all  hindi pandits... guess what चटर्जी क्षेत्र means

NO!!!i mean hindi in english!and if u find hindi hilarious i find english the same way?what is so funny in hindi!angrezo ki karamat!

LMAO i get the point, anwar bhai is right i guess,

PS
Ans: Chatter Zone , am i right ?

PPS
Sameer, six minutes now and i am still in splits, what does बना प्यार करता हूँ mean

Even hindi in english?

first let me clear ..... i am nowhere against hindi...... just that it would be way too difficult for translating

second .... even in india  and many forum members from North east and South India find it hard....

third , it will adversely affect search function on this forum...... nightmare

fourth, rcpilotacro is a hindi pandit

  .Man iam from south.though south indians cant talk hindi(walk too)they can understand it very well.And what you'll post in hindi evrytime.Those who are good at hindi-hindi mei bat karenge and angrezo ke gulaam-english mei .what say?
And btw those who cant understand english dont do they find it hard to understand?especially in a country obsessed with english.

Oh cmmon... plz give up this  "angreez ne hame barbaad kar diya".... soch...

think about it this way..... we can get ahead of china coz we have 20 times english speakers...

and ofcourse .... when we lead the world in a few years time..... we shall whip all the angreez in england .....

happy

jai hind

arre i aint talking about the 'matruprem' or 'jai hind kind of vibe.Its just that people have lost hindi.think if u are ignoring hindi,especially ina forum that too at a national level.what are your children gonna do?

We are not ignoring Hindi.

It's just that English takes preference around here due to the fact that most internet users can read English.

i give up ...... anwar sir ..... let us restart this forum in hindi....... i just realised that my children wont be able to do a thing, if we dont do it now...
.... though i have no children..... wait a minute ..... when was i married..... i am going mad...
its best to unsubscribe this thread

 

 

मै एक आम आदमी हु!!

i am a mango man

With English as a medium use of SMS language is not allowed, use of proper grammar is advised yet forum users do not post in a clear and understandable format.
Say we were to have Hindi as a medium too. It would be an extra burden on the Admin to monitor an additional language.
It may not be practical to implement - Anwar, as a forum Admin, should be in the best position to judge.

This thread deals with use of SMS lingo. Suggestions regarding Hindi as a medium will fit better in the Suggestions thread.

^^ Thank you for saving me some effort.

People who use SMS lingo are very hard to respect...

where was i when this party began!!!

missed rolling off my chair!

Jokes apart - a forum is almost always a place that 'gives more information' to people who are not necessarily part of the forum...

our interest to keep that channel of "Standard" communication should never be tampered with... with this present discussion we are wondering only about how we 'Post' not how its understood... the purpose is defeated, and we have to take the extra effort to make sure we are understood not jus "heard"

cheers to all the pundits!!   

This says it all

sorry but I read that as "dont dey give blow" (excuse the innuendo). Like you said @sanjayrai, no vowels required to interpret. In my case consonants changed.

With what we've done to our heritage, I don't find it surprising what were doing and will do to the adopted ones. But like many up in the thread feel, Standard is a standard because the majority choose it to be standard and it should be adhered to. Flow with the traffic/be the blond driving on the "wrong side of the road"/or create your own route (someone in the 16-17th century did get rid of the "thou"s and "art"s). In our case, most drivers do not understand "4ever" or whatever (I cannot even think of sms lingo to quote as examples)...