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« on: July 19, 2010, 10:22:56 PM »
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hi,

If you have seen the Indian idol today, the flying on top of the crowd or judges on a live show is the worst thing anyone could have tried.

Totally stupid.

what do you say

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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2010, 10:24:46 PM »
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I heard this... reported by Capt Tahlan on Facebook.  Was hoping the someone would post a video.  Nothing on Youtube when I checked earlier !
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2010, 10:28:12 PM »
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yess i too agree flying that sized heli is very dangerous...specially when there are people sitting all around.....and i dont think so that amir khan was fying the heli...i was some one else an advanced expert rc heli flyer...and it is also against the rules of All India Aeromodelling Association....
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2010, 10:41:39 PM »
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Where can i see the clip? Is it on youtube?
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2010, 10:55:51 PM »
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Found one Wink



A small electric like a Trex 250 would have made a whole lot more sense.  A 450 MAY be OK.

And a Futaba 14MZ radio too Grin
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2010, 11:05:48 PM »
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What Heli is this?
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2010, 11:19:50 PM »
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Looks like a Raptor 30 (from Thunder Tiger).
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2010, 11:21:30 PM »
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We Indians have a bad habit of taking really good foreign TV shows and ruining them! This clip reminds me of a circus with the two guys on stage jumping up and down shouting like those midget clowns!

The nitro HELI was a really dangerous thing to do.. Wouldn't it make much more sense to bring the quad-rotor from "3 Idiots" ??
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Shit!! The Heli missed Annu Mallik! Should have been a T-Rex Clone (Copy-cat love)   Giggle  Giggle
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anwar sir u are right...it was a raptor 30
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there are some audiences in the video waving at the heli Giggle
a lil hovering over AM head and his precious gulfgate wig would be on the table... Giggle
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there are some audiences in the video waving at the heli Giggle
a lil hovering over AM head and his precious gulfgate wig would be on the table... Giggle

 Giggle Yeah! I'd definitely pay to watch that!
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Really disturbing that a man as sensible as amir khan agreed to do this Sad Angry Shocked Huh?.And yeah,someone else must have been flying it.

We Indians have a bad habit of taking really good foreign TV shows and ruining them! This clip reminds me of a circus with the two guys on stage jumping up and down shouting like those midget clowns!

Medicineman1987, very true.All the good shows(almost)have been destroyed. Angry
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However it was very irresponsible flying but i think its good for promoting RC in India. BTW India is a Bhagwan Bharose country. Ppl dont follow any rules here (well most of them i am talking about 100 crore out 110 crore). If we follow rules we wont be flying RC planes anymore. Few months back some Airline pilots were grounded for drinking before flying which carries civilians like you and me.
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It was really cool to see the video. Ya, I agree its dangerous to fly a heli in such a small place on audiance, but once in a rare time, it should be ok to entertain people, especially when flown by very experienced pilots.

I remember myself standing close to big Helis when Rajesh/Adarsh are flying as it is safe. Anything might go bad, that does not mean we need to hide under the carpet all the time. If its in your fate, anything can go wrong.

Dangers are lurking everywhere. Even visiting a formula 1 race might get dangerous. Or riding on a bike. But since this looks like it was done by a very experienced person on a well built heli, for a few seconds, it should not be such big of a threat as to criticize its every move. Roll Eyes

I really enjoyed the SHOW, well organised! First of its kind eh?
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I think this is going to further promote our hobby Salute
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The issue is choice of heli.  Wonder if a smaller electric would have worked just as well for the purpose, yet greatly reduce the risk. 
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I have a doubt....is this really flown by Amir...or just a radio in hand and flown by someone else ?

Don't Mind Amir if you are reading this....if you are in this hobby then we RCIndians really want to see some of your birdies......i mean your Hanger..
But Still i Thank you by heart for promoting this hobby....As said by Anwar.....
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Definitely not him. He was not even seeing the Heli half of the time.  Giggle
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A great way to kill the hobby, the idiot is fooling around as he flies a heli right on top of ppl (some of bollywood's cream) and fools all around cheering along.

One mishap and it would have been a country wide ban on this hobby!!!

Fools!!! Just plain fools!!!
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Not sure about that.  We had an incident where a heli fell next to senior politicians in a demo recently, allegedly because the Z catergory security detail jammed all frequencies. Nothing bad came out from that, except charges were raised against the operator/organizers.

I believe a mishap would help formalize the rules around this hobby, and bring strict rules around doing demonstrations. This is where the AMAI/ACI folks etc would be called into submitting rules for safe conduct of the hobby.

"On top of people" could be avoided (along with use of a smaller electric), but other than that, this is another good introduction for the hobby to all of India.
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Another video along with below comment was posted by Lavneet on the AMAI forum, asking them to take the matter up with the concerned parties.




We recently witnessed an act where someone flew a 50 sized Nitro heli indoors on a TV show. I for one wasn't amused or happy to see this inspite of some good press our hobby might have got. The reason wasn't only the fact that Aamir Khan took credit for what he wasn't doing, but more the fact that it was an extremely dangerous and assenine act. After having flown 50 sized fuel-powered choppers in the last few months, I have realized how dangerous and prone to failure these machines can be however well they've been setup. A servo failure, engine quitting, a ball link popping in the head assembly or any other mechanical failure are some of the constant threats. There was a scene where the pilot flew the chopper right over one of the judges heads and if, God forbid, anything came loose, it would have been a disaster beyond imagination.
A smaller electric chopper would have been a safer choice, but still not recommended in a room packed with people.
 
I would request AMA to take this up with the people responsibe. Such an act should never have been allowed. Any disaster on such a popular TV show would have meant an end to our Hobby as we know it.
 
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I believe a mishap would help formalize the rules around this hobby, and bring strict rules around doing demonstrations. This is where the AMAI/ACI folks etc would be called into submitting rules for safe conduct of the hobby.


I doubt this is a lone incidence of flying Helis in close proximity of people. A recent photo of IIT Mardras 'Sashtra' sp4mm3r in TOI Bangalore (article on sp4mm3r getting ISO certification) had a Nitro Augusta flying in close to students.
Its upon we flyers to take the call on safety before the authorities come up with rather drastic 'Diktats' . Confidence on oneself is one thing, confidence on such mass produced equipments like Radio and Heli parts is a total different ballgame. What if the Radio goes hay wire (ALL of the OEM have known to give issues) or the bold holding the blades gives way!
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In fact, I wouldn't surprised if the actual flier was a member of the forum Smiley
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