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Title: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 18, 2018, 08:20:30 PM
I want to make blu baby but design is not clear.
I want measurements.
Link of blu baby
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?681556-%2A%2A-Blu-Baby-Primary-Trainer-%2A%2A-Plans-Pics-and-Fun%21


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: saikat on July 18, 2018, 08:42:16 PM
As per the first file attached to the post in the link

Wing span is - 33 inch


Rest of the dimensions you can easily work out



Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 18, 2018, 09:57:24 PM
@saikat
33 inch wingspan is okay but chord length? then rudder elevator.
length of fuselage from wings ?
length from wings to rudder ?
height of fuselage ?

Please help.


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: tictoc21 on July 18, 2018, 10:39:12 PM
Did you chk all pdf file linked?


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: prabal276 on July 18, 2018, 10:49:20 PM
@ taksh
Simply scale it up.
Find the measurement of the wing span after printing. Find the ratio b/w the printed span and the actual span. Multiply all the other dimensions with the ratio obtained. Simple maths.
Further, blubaby plans have all the dimensions. Have you checked all the other PDFs?
Regards


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: prabal276 on July 18, 2018, 10:55:59 PM
@ taksh
Seems as if you have'nt seen all the plans as @ tictoc21 said.
Looks at the PDFs given. There are parts supplied. You need to print them, tile them and copy them onto foam.
Regards


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 18, 2018, 11:17:50 PM
But how ratio will work.?
if ratio and plan design rules doesn't match then ?
 


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 18, 2018, 11:18:36 PM
@tictoc21
Yes i checked.


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 18, 2018, 11:21:02 PM
In Blu Baby 33inch.pdf,
What is 1.50inch?
Kaha se kah thek ki length hai?


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: prabal276 on July 18, 2018, 11:21:32 PM
Read my second post.
There are few PDF with parts. Print them out and trace the parts on the foam. Just like you do with FT designs.


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 18, 2018, 11:27:30 PM
@prabal276
I don't want to build plane with ft design
Give me video which is useful.


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: prabal276 on July 18, 2018, 11:29:39 PM
That is the dihedral measurement.


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: prabal276 on July 18, 2018, 11:34:26 PM
I'll make an attempt to explain.
The plans has parts. You need to print the parts and paste them onto the foam.
The PDF you are talking about is the general PDF. It only shows where the parts belong on the plane.
Other than the general PDF, there are 5-6 other PDFs containing the general parts. You need to print the parts and stick the A4 sheets together to obtain the full size of the parts.
Do you understand?
Search the video for yourself. I am not here to find build videos.
Regards


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 18, 2018, 11:39:23 PM
@prabal276
It is okay.
Don't be angry


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: prabal276 on July 18, 2018, 11:50:41 PM
I ain't angry.
I am just trying to get you to understand.
Sorry if I sound angry. Now that I review what I have written, it does appear as if I was angry. I apologise.
Regards
So did you understand?


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 18, 2018, 11:58:08 PM
@prabal276
I opened blu baby 33 inch pdf in adobe acrobat pdf but there is no option to print in original size.
size : 36.0 x  74.0 inch.
I don't know how to convert big pdf files into many small A4 pages.
tell me
I am searching on google,.


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: tictoc21 on July 19, 2018, 08:44:50 AM
See if there tile format available, it will be in a4 format


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: prabal276 on July 19, 2018, 09:05:26 AM
Tiled format is available.
@ taksh isnt looking at the set of PDFs. He is only looking at the first pdf.


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: tictoc21 on July 19, 2018, 09:12:57 AM
@taksh


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 19, 2018, 11:15:45 AM
@prabal276
I know about titled pdf. I take printouts but i also want flying wing design. Simple flying wing v3 design is only one file.
Got solution of adobe. I can take printout but length is not accurate.
wingspan is 33 and got 35.
i don't fuselage length (width) but i know fuselage height.
Please tell me about fuselage length(wdith).



Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: saikat on July 19, 2018, 01:24:27 PM
Taksh call me on my mobile .... I will explain ...
It will be faster than writing a log post


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: K K Iyer on July 19, 2018, 03:56:14 PM
@taksh,
This plan shows the scale
https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showatt.php?attachmentid=1971823&d=1216529885


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 19, 2018, 09:44:37 PM
@K K Iyer
I checked.
Saikat uncle solved my problem.
but i still have doubt.




Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: prabal276 on July 19, 2018, 09:46:07 PM
What is your doubt?
Maybe I can help?


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 19, 2018, 09:54:34 PM
@Prabal
Thanks for reply.
but i have doubt of fuselage length (width).
Tomorrow, I will go to nearest thermocol factory for HD thermocol.
I will start building rc plane then i can know fuselage length.
blu baby nose is always heavy as i saw in rc groups forum.
I hope 2200mah 3s lipo can work.


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: K K Iyer on July 19, 2018, 09:58:50 PM
@K K Iyer
I checked.
Saikat solved my problem.
but i still have doubt.

Perhaps you mean Saikat sir.
Not so nice to speak of someone who may be your father’s age as if he is a launda like you...
The link I sent has all the info needed to build the Blu Baby.
What more do you need?
Pl say what your doubt is.
One of us will clarify.
Regards



Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 19, 2018, 10:13:06 PM
@K K Iyer uncle
Now i will use "uncle" it is okay.
I don't use word sir. "Sir" word used in business or for teacher.
my english is also week. I always try to write clearly so anyone can understand my english but manytimes, i forget to use words which is necessary like sir uncle bhaiya or etc.
My intention is not insult anybody. I haven't used word "sir" "uncle" word because of my English problem.
I will remember word sir uncle bhaiya.
But which word i should have to use?

i think my doubts will be cleared within 1-2 days in building plane.
Now my first step is: how to get thermocol at low cost from manufacturer.


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: K K Iyer on July 19, 2018, 10:41:31 PM
@taksh

Haha,
I see that you have been brought up well, and trained in how to address your elders.
No need to clarify that your English is ‘week’. Everyone knows that you are weak in English.
Now you have shown that you are weak in ‘tameez’ too.

Remember that too many questions about a simple build like Blu Baby reveal other weaknesses...

PS
I feel your last post is quite rude.
Would you care to delete it?
If so, I’ll also delete this post.

Regards




Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 19, 2018, 10:57:33 PM
@K K Iyer uncle
I write all thing in English which is straight forward(direct) so my post is rude.
And no one can understand behaviour of other person with text messages.

If you want to delete my post, then delete. You are moderator as well as Senior member.



Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: VIPIN_KUMAR on July 19, 2018, 11:08:36 PM
@prabal276, Iyer sir....I guess some people should be left alone....


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 19, 2018, 11:11:22 PM
Thread Hi Jacking....
Message to all,
Please don't say anything which is not related to this topic.


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: K K Iyer on July 19, 2018, 11:19:23 PM
@taksh,
Hope you remember that I had sent you a personal msg that we are getting complaints about you.
Please realise that you are disliked by many members.
It is apparent you don’t care.
Maybe you’ll change your mind...

Zarra sochiye,
Kya aap badtameez ke naam se jaane jayenge?
Thoda khayal keejiye.
Thoda parhez keejiye.
Zahir hai ki aap badtameezi ke liye Angrezi na jaanne ke bahane ka sahaara lete hain.

The more politely I speak to you, the more rude you become.
Aur aisa bhi nahin ki maine aap ki maddad na ki ho.
Please do not post more and more rude replies. This is my request.

Ho sake to zubaan pe thodi lagaam ...


 


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 19, 2018, 11:32:46 PM
(http://lighthouseinsights.in/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/center-fresh-yeh-wala.jpg)

"Zahir hai ki aap badtameezi ke liye Angrezi na jaanne ke bahane ka sahaara lete hain." ka reply :

:banghead: :banghead: ab me english ka use nhi karunga sirf english wali hindi.


 


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: K K Iyer on July 19, 2018, 11:54:25 PM
Badtameezi ka jawaab
Shayad khamoshi hai.
Angrezi na jaan ne ka ilaj
Shaayad Urdu me hai

Mat bhoolna ki aapka waar
Apne hi ek raham dil pe hai

Kaash yeh khayaal aata
Ki sab aap ke jaise nahin
Kuch naraaz, par bezubaan
Khaamosh
Ki weh
Aapki zubaan
Nahin jaante


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: pnkyjs on July 20, 2018, 12:27:06 AM
And it only ends with "wah ustad" , "wah ustad"  , nice one sir.   Gone are the days when we could appreciate the poetry.


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: K K Iyer on July 20, 2018, 12:36:27 AM
@pnkyjs,
Thanks, sir.

(Especially from someone who hasn’t posted even 80 posts in 8 years)


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: K K Iyer on July 20, 2018, 01:40:16 AM
@taksh,
I think it is time you knew the truth.
You taik a lot.
Ask many questions for which answers are readily available if you search.
Showing that you are too lazy to find answers yourself and want to be spoonfed like a child.
You consider yourself polite, but everyone else finds you rude.
You have shown that you are incapable of making even a simple chuck glider.
And that you are unable to find the size of the wing chord in the Blu Baby plan that shows a scale.

I think that so far YOU HAVE NEVER BUILD ANY MODEL OF ANY SIZE.

So I think ALL YOUR BIG TALK IS JUST HOT AIR, AND HAS NO SUBSTANCE.

or, in Hindi, BAATEN BADi BADi, DUM KUM KUM.

So, if you have actually made even one little flying model, then talk. Otherwise BE QUIET.

And don’t take the liberty of calling me Uncle, Samjhe Oversmart Bacche?

DO NOT REPLY UNLESS POLITE!


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: VIPIN_KUMAR on July 20, 2018, 07:01:30 AM
Thread Hi Jacking....
Message to all,
Please don't say anything which is not related to this topic.


Everyone is saying things related to the title of this thread..You can't understand..You don't want to understand and You will never understand...and ofcourse I'm not talking about the plane design !


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: prabal276 on July 20, 2018, 07:10:03 AM
Taksh, this is a serious matter. You risk loosing all forms of help from this forum.
You are more elder than me. Still this level of childishness?
Come on.


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: rastsaurabh on July 20, 2018, 07:41:16 AM
Taksh
To keep everyone stop commenting on you ......

You have to post a video or pic of what you have made.


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: sanjayrai55 on July 20, 2018, 10:06:22 AM
Taksh, come to me in Gurgaon, I'll help you


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 20, 2018, 10:25:10 AM
@K K Iyer
I have made 2 planes from depron plate and cream sticks golle wala stick.

@prabal276
I am working on ymfc al quadcopter also. I made one big sheet(rc plane design) from many A4 in yesturday night. I spent whole night in combining A4 sheets with each other using tape and cutting extra paper from A4 sheets.
one more thing : person childishness can't be destroyed.
I understand what u are saying.
I am coming with blu baby.

@rastsaurabh
I am going to visit thermocol factory. It rained today.
I am coming with blu baby within few days.

@sanjayrai55
Thanks.






Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: rastsaurabh on July 20, 2018, 10:47:37 AM
All the best Taksh.



Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: sanjayrai55 on July 20, 2018, 10:55:37 AM
We all wish you the best, and would like to see a budding aeromodeller come up.

But if a person is consistently rude and disrespectful, and exhibits a poor attitude,it is unlikely anyone will help


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 20, 2018, 11:04:40 AM
@Sanjayrai55
Sorry for past posts. I was angry & rude from few days due to my carrier tension. I always have tension of career.
I hope you can understand.



Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: sanjayrai55 on July 20, 2018, 11:06:22 AM
No problem, be nice, stay nice

What is "carrier tension?"


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 20, 2018, 11:08:32 AM
Manufacturer providing thermocol sheet with minimum thickness of 25mm.
I need max 5mm.
Manufacturer is saying last 8mm but with buring charges.
Thermocol buring for sizing?

i think nichrome Hot wire is a better option but wood worker also take charges for touching wood



Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 20, 2018, 11:11:35 AM
@sanjayrai55
I have passed 12th,
A career tension.
good enginnering college or government job after graduation.


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: sanjayrai55 on July 20, 2018, 11:13:01 AM
You mean "career"


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: taksh on July 20, 2018, 11:15:13 AM
Yes


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: pnkyjs on July 20, 2018, 04:11:52 PM
flying is a good part of trial and error, personally I have worked hours on aeromodels and that flopped in front of expectant crowds. But due to some bug in my head , I feel that it only made me want to come back to the field with another design. And keep coming back till I had a flying model.  It was not necessary to have a perfect model, but it was necessary to have a flying one. ..... just my 2centse


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: pnkyjs on July 20, 2018, 04:14:56 PM
theres no place for any negative emotions , only positive expectations


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: Mehul Anand on July 20, 2018, 05:31:59 PM
 {:)} {:)
Noble and true words...


Title: Re: Incomplete design or i can't understand plane design.
Post by: K K Iyer on July 20, 2018, 09:24:30 PM
@taksh
WELCOME BACK.
You can call me Uncle if you wish.
Same with sanjayrai55 and saikat.
Though Sir is better, as you do not know us personally
Regards