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Title: To buy first rc plane
Post by: Deepankar Joshi on August 12, 2017, 08:27:13 PM
Hi,i am thinking of buying my first rc plane,most probably a foam glider i.e the STEALTH from rc bazaar.Needed advice whether to go for it or no?. Thank You :) 


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: K K Iyer on August 12, 2017, 10:14:35 PM
Hi,i am thinking of buying my first rc plane,most probably a foam glider i.e the STEALTH from rc bazaar.Needed advice whether to go for it or no?. Thank You :) 

Yes.

Over the weekend you may get many suggestions.
But if you've made a choice and want a yes or no,
The answer is YES.

Regards


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: prabal276 on August 12, 2017, 11:23:13 PM
It's a yes but why don't you try scratch building?
It's much much more rewarding.
Once you master the skills, your planes look better than the readymade planes. I am
The first few planes won't look very good.
Further, since you have built the plane, you know each and every thing about it.
Regards


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: Deepankar Joshi on August 13, 2017, 07:14:45 AM
Thank you very much :thumbsup:


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: Deepankar Joshi on August 13, 2017, 07:17:32 AM
Tysm sir,also can you pls suggest good scratch build foam glider videos.It would be of great help.


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: prabal276 on August 13, 2017, 07:18:13 AM
Go for the flite test explorer.
With the trainer wing.
+ I am not to be called 'sir'. Only Prabal.


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: Deepankar Joshi on August 13, 2017, 12:23:13 PM
I,after seeing ur suggestions went to the net and found the flitetest tiny trainer at 2k including shipping.But on their website they say that only the airframe is at that price and no electronics but just below this a list of things in the kit which is given which is as follows:
1.airframe
2.powerpod(mini)
3.firewall(mini)
4.Push rods
5.control horns
6.BBQ skewer
Can somebody pls give me some clarity this.Would be very beneficial for me.


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: prabal276 on August 13, 2017, 12:33:07 PM
It's essentially the flite test speed build kit.
Made in India by vortex hobby.
You will need to purchase the electronics separately.
See the build video on flitetest.com.
You'll understand.


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: Deepankar Joshi on August 13, 2017, 01:15:49 PM
So can i buy the same model at vortex hobby?.And one more question,if i have to buy the electronics seperately then why have they written that the kit includes these all? Thnx


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: prabal276 on August 13, 2017, 01:19:38 PM
1.airframe
2.powerpod(mini)
3.firewall(mini)
4.Push rods
5.control horns
6.BBQ skewer
Can somebody pls give me some clarity this.Would be very beneficial for me.
These are part of the air frame.
Not electronics.
Have you seen the flite test build video?
You need to buy motor, ESC, servos, tx/rx.


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: Deepankar Joshi on August 13, 2017, 01:22:52 PM
Oh sorry didnt knew since new to this hobby ;D but where can i get the electronics from? I saw half of the video but got bored since i dont have it i stopped it :banghead:


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: prabal276 on August 13, 2017, 01:26:06 PM
Rcbazaar.com , rchyper.com , vortex hobby etc.
Vortex hobby may also have an electronic package for the tiny trainer. Just check though.
Regards.
Buy the electronics as recommended on the plane.


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: Deepankar Joshi on August 13, 2017, 01:40:59 PM
So can i go for the tiny trainer?


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: utkarshg13 on August 13, 2017, 01:59:44 PM
If you want to go for a scratchbuild try out, www.vortex-rc.com

Here, you will get everything including electronics and other building materials in the kit. Both Flitetest and other beginner models are available here.

Regards,
Utkarsh


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: prabal276 on August 13, 2017, 02:04:45 PM
@ utkarsh, that's what I suggested.
Deepankar, I don't see the tiny trainer listed on the vortex hobby website.
Better go for the FT explorer with the electronics package.
Or the VT Allrounder with the electronics package.
http://www.vortex-rc.com/product/ft-explorer-lasercut-foamboard-kit/


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: utkarshg13 on August 13, 2017, 02:08:20 PM
You can contact Gaurav Sir on phone/whatsapp and ask him if they have VT-Mini in stock. Thats a mini version of VT-Allrounder.
Includes electronics.





Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: prabal276 on August 13, 2017, 02:10:44 PM
Get this electronics pack
http://www.vortex-rc.com/product/power-pack-b-2/


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: Deepankar Joshi on August 13, 2017, 06:02:48 PM
Hi, prabal and utkarsh.just saw ur posts.I checked on the rchyper site and found the tiny trainer as well as the power pack A kit required for the mighty mini plane series by flite test. It is at the same price and has been told that it is similar to that of the flitetest product. Should i consider it? I have also planned to go for an RCB6i avionics transmitter so that in future i don't have to buy a second transmitter. Is my choice right?


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: prabal276 on August 13, 2017, 07:30:47 PM
hey,
go for the fly sky i6. I have both, the rcb 6i and fs i6.
The FS-i6 is Light Years ahead.
There is no tiny trainer on the RC Hyper Web-site. In my opinion, you should go for the explorer from vortex hobbies.
Get the following:
http://www.vortex-rc.com/product/ft-explorer-lasercut-foamboard-kit/
http://www.vortex-rc.com/product/power-pack-b-2/

In addition, Get a battery (maybe 2) as one is not enough ;D (Stay away from wolfpack and cheap lipos)
A gens ace battery is available in the combo as an extra.
Get a radio with reciever (fs i6)(Around 3.5K)
And a balance charger. (DO NOT GET A B3)(A Imax B6 will do)(1.5K)

Since this is a larger plane it comes with beefier setup, you will be able to use the electronics on a variety of future planes (upto 48").
Please DO NOT buy cheap and cloned stuff as it will be much more expensive in the long run. Do not make the mistakes that i have made earlier.


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: utkarshg13 on August 13, 2017, 07:34:57 PM
Completely agree with Prabal both for radio and mini.


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: K K Iyer on August 13, 2017, 08:45:02 PM
@dipankar joshi,
Pardon me for repeating what I've often said on this forum.

If I wanted to learn to ride a bicycle, I could
1. Buy one and get some help/instructions
2. Build one from parts
3. Design a bicycle myself

Similar choices are available for entering RC flying.
Have to be clear about one's objective.
Learning to fly? To build? To design?
Do not confuse these three.

The best way to learn to fly RC (without pain) is:
1. Pay training fee and learn from an instructor on his model, with no expenditure on hardware
2. Use a proven combo of RC and model, with or without a friend to guide you.

Or you can experiment with alternatives, with different probabilities of success!
The alternatives can however provide a lot of joy, even if they fail to help you fly successfully!
Regards


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: Deepankar Joshi on August 13, 2017, 10:37:12 PM
thanks a ton prabal made me clear for my choice :hatsoff: ;D Thanks again.


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: Deepankar Joshi on August 13, 2017, 10:58:53 PM
Hey prabal, just one last question where can i get the fly sky i6 at 3.5k. And the electronic pack that you suggested, does it contain everything to fly the tiny trainer or the explorer? Thnx


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: prabal276 on August 14, 2017, 02:16:46 PM
Rchyper.com has the i6 but for 4600. It's a newer version.
Get the one with ia6 receiver. Not the multirotor one.
Here in Delhi, we get the i6 for 3100 RS in Chandni Chowk.
Yes, it has everything except the battery (which can be added from the Dropbox on the same product page)
This along with the tx/rx and airframe kit is all you need.
I hope you have knives, hot glue gun, soldering iron.
Regards.
I wish that these kinds of kits were available when I started in the hobby.
 ;)
All the best
Clear skies to you


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: Deepankar Joshi on August 14, 2017, 03:27:07 PM
hey thanks prabal  :hatsoff:


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: Deepankar Joshi on August 14, 2017, 03:33:13 PM
prabal, sry to trouble you but at the flite test site the recommended motor is a 2200kv but the power pack at vortex rc has a turnigy motor of only 1400kv. will the plane fly with it?


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: swapnilnimbalkar on August 14, 2017, 03:35:36 PM
Yes it will. Dont worry.


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: Deepankar Joshi on August 14, 2017, 04:53:41 PM
Flysky FS-i6 AFHDS 2A 2.4GHz 6CH Radio System Transmitter for RC Helicopter Glider with FS-iA6 Receiver Mode 2 
prabal can i get this.what does mode 2 mean?


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: swapnilnimbalkar on August 14, 2017, 04:54:22 PM
Mode 2 means throttle is on left side and mode 1 is throttle on right side.


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: prabal276 on August 14, 2017, 04:59:02 PM
Yes, go ahead.
Mode 2 means that throttle is on your left .
You can adjust the other channels as you like.
Don't worry about the Kv. My explorer flies with 1200.


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: KALYANPRODHAN on August 14, 2017, 08:51:45 PM
Do you read the posts in
http://www.rcindia.org/rc-india-forum/the-rc-india-gems/

You may try by visiting of scratch built
http://www.spadtothebone.net/
http://www.spadtothebone.net/freeplans.htm
http://www.spadtothebone.net/SPAD/corocub/Corocub_1.htm
http://www.spadtothebone.net/SPAD/PDF/Ultra%20Spad%20Stick.pdf

But  specific advice.
1. Dont test motor to DC, it will be burnt. Connect with ESC and then only check.
2. Be careful of CG. Make glide test.

and also,
3. Test in simulator using simulator cable with Tx or analog joypad, before real flight.
4. Land on long grass to avoid damage to the plane.
Hope you will be enlightened with reading these..


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: prabal276 on August 14, 2017, 09:01:41 PM
Sir,
What I think is that SPAD's are a tad bit faster.
That's why I recommended a depron model to deepankar.


Title: Re: To buy first rc plane
Post by: ashok 2010 on August 17, 2017, 04:14:35 PM
@dipankar joshi,
Pardon me for repeating what I've often said on this forum.

If I wanted to learn to ride a bicycle, I could
1. Buy one and get some help/instructions
2. Build one from parts
3. Design a bicycle myself

Similar choices are available for entering RC flying.
Have to be clear about one's objective.
Learning to fly? To build? To design?
Do not confuse these three.

The best way to learn to fly RC (without pain) is:
1. Pay training fee and learn from an instructor on his model, with no expenditure on hardware
2. Use a proven combo of RC and model, with or without a friend to guide you.

Or you can experiment with alternatives, with different probabilities of success!
The alternatives can however provide a lot of joy, even if they fail to help you fly successfully!
Regards
Beautifully explained i have lot of experience from the last part"The alternatives can however provide a lot of joy, even if they fail to help you fly successfully!"