RC India
Welcome Guest, please login or register.
 
Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 ... 9   Go Down
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. Topic Tools Topic Tools 
Read
« Reply #50 on: July 15, 2013, 10:15:46 AM »
vishalrao
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 9 
vishalrao has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Mangalore
State: Karnataka
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 617
Join Date: Nov, 2011

Plane Addict



Nice build Sanjay sir! I see two possible problems...

1) As you said that plane takes off vertical, there could be 2 possible reasons, which I'm sure you must be aware of but might have overlooked.

a) CG is aft. How does the plane land in the final stages? Does the nose go down or tail goes down? If the nose goes down more than the tail then the cg is fore, but if the tail goes down and you get a feeling that the plane is about to stall, then the cg is aft.

b) Too much angle of attack. I suspect this could be the primary reason. I believe you must get the leading edge of the wing down so that the leading edge and the trailing edge is horizontal (zero degree). This will definitely correct the problem if the cg is correct.

Cheers!

incidence.jpg
Re: (Yet another) Avispad
* incidence.jpg (15.62 KB, 240x200 - viewed 659 times.)
Logged

 

Read
« Reply #51 on: July 15, 2013, 10:18:35 AM »
vishalrao
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 9 
vishalrao has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Mangalore
State: Karnataka
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 617
Join Date: Nov, 2011

Plane Addict



Yes, you can correct the angle of incidence by putting some packing below the trailing edge (Will not look good though).

Another danger I see is that the landing gear is too much behind. The prop may strike the ground often while landing and the plane might also topple frequently.
Logged

 

Read
« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2013, 10:35:28 AM »
sanjayrai55
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 85 
sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.
Offline Offline

City: Gurgaon
State: Haryana
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 8337
Join Date: Dec, 2011

Don't wake a Tiger until you've factored the teeth



Thanks Vishal. The CG is OK, so it is incidence, plus too much power.

How to measure incidence? Or just visual check?

Not yet had a problem with the LG being too far back. In fact, I'm thinking of changing it to a tricycle gear.

Maybe I just make a new wing!
Logged

 

Read
« Reply #53 on: July 15, 2013, 10:43:45 AM »
vishalrao
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 9 
vishalrao has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Mangalore
State: Karnataka
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 617
Join Date: Nov, 2011

Plane Addict



How to measure incidence? Or just visual check?

I do it visually. Just did a google search and found this thing:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXET66&P=7

May not be worth it. Visual check should be fine I believe.

A little raising of the trailing edge will not hurt and may actually save yourself from making a new wing Smiley Bending coro is the worst part of the build process Sad

In fact, I'm thinking of changing it to a tricycle gear.

Why do you want to change to a trike? I prefer the tail dragger as I always encounter hopping on a trike while landing Smiley More over, trail draggers are easy to build, at least to me.
Logged

 

Read
« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2013, 02:21:18 PM »
sanjayrai55
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 85 
sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.
Offline Offline

City: Gurgaon
State: Haryana
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 8337
Join Date: Dec, 2011

Don't wake a Tiger until you've factored the teeth



I have checked it by putting the wing flat and using a steel scale from the front apex to the back joint. There is a minor angle of incidence, but not enough to affect it (I think  Wink)

Will try some packing.

Main thing is that Turnigy SK3 2836-1500 KV develops a lot of power and one has to go easy on the throttle, I think.

I like trikes because their ground handling is better, and they save my props Cheesy Old habit from Nitro days
Logged

 

Read
« Reply #55 on: July 15, 2013, 04:52:27 PM »
vishalrao
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 9 
vishalrao has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Mangalore
State: Karnataka
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 617
Join Date: Nov, 2011

Plane Addict



All the best with the changes sir Smiley
Logged

 

Read
« Reply #56 on: July 15, 2013, 05:13:47 PM »
sanjayrai55
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 85 
sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.
Offline Offline

City: Gurgaon
State: Haryana
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 8337
Join Date: Dec, 2011

Don't wake a Tiger until you've factored the teeth



Thanks Vishal

Sent from my GT-S7562 using Tapatalk 2
Logged

 

Read
« Reply #57 on: July 17, 2013, 10:17:13 AM »
sanjayrai55
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 85 
sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.
Offline Offline

City: Gurgaon
State: Haryana
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 8337
Join Date: Dec, 2011

Don't wake a Tiger until you've factored the teeth



Successful maiden !   Cheesy Cheesy Grin

Video is loading, will post shortly.

Just needed a little less than half throttle take-off
Logged

 

Read
« Reply #58 on: July 17, 2013, 10:34:07 AM »
arun.sreelakam
Coloring my Dreams...
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 12 
arun.sreelakam has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: palakkad
State: Kerala
RC Skills: Advanced
Posts: 1678
Join Date: Sep, 2012

Fly High



 Clap Clap Clap
Congrats sir...
Your smile shows how perfect the flight was No need of a video now... Bow Bow
hehe Waiting for that video Sanjay sir  Giggle Giggle
Logged

Turnigy i10|Flysky 9xb|Hoverfly quadcopter|Arduflyer apm 2.5 with gps|Pixhawk|Homemade micro night vapour|Homemade ornithopter(in progress)| Reptile Quad with Gopro Brushless gimbal | Naza v2| APM 2.6 with GPS | Micro quad self made | FrSky| v911 Helis | 1200mm Hexacopter with 5d gimbal | 1300mm x8 With Red Gimbal | 1000mm Octo|
 

Read
« Reply #59 on: July 17, 2013, 10:50:55 AM »
sanjayrai55
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 85 
sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.
Offline Offline

City: Gurgaon
State: Haryana
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 8337
Join Date: Dec, 2011

Don't wake a Tiger until you've factored the teeth



Thanks Arun!

Here's the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ik-f4OyW-8&feature=youtu.be
Logged

 

Read
« Reply #60 on: July 17, 2013, 10:57:34 AM »
sanjayrai55
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 85 
sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.
Offline Offline

City: Gurgaon
State: Haryana
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 8337
Join Date: Dec, 2011

Don't wake a Tiger until you've factored the teeth



Test Pilot, our local ace (Cheesy) Girish Sarwal  Salute
Videographer: Sandeep Pande  Thumbs Up

The video was taken on a mobile phone, so some limitations

I had put one washer on each of the motor mount top screws for downthrust. Also 3 mm packing under the wing TE. Will take out the packing, as there is a slight down tendency.

Ailerons are very sensitive. Will set exponential on them. Maybe reduce the throws too.

Otherwise, all ready to be flown, and flown, and flown.....until I try to plant a corro tree  ROFL
Logged

 

Read
« Reply #61 on: July 17, 2013, 11:20:23 AM »
shauviks
Plane Lover
Forum Veteran

****

Reputation Power: 7 
shauviks has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Bhubaneshwar
State: Orissa
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 380
Join Date: Mar, 2012

#get_set_fly



Here's the video link sir


« Last Edit: July 17, 2013, 11:33:01 AM by shauviks » Logged

+91-8093863974
#Bring it on flyer
 

Read
« Reply #62 on: July 17, 2013, 12:47:59 PM »
VC
Boat Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 64 
VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!VC is a rising star!
Offline Offline

City: Guwahati
State: Assam
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 5598
Join Date: Nov, 2009

L'enfant Terrible du RCIndia



Lovely model and great flying. You make a good team!
Logged

Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional!
 

Read
« Reply #63 on: July 17, 2013, 01:58:39 PM »
samlikespad
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 9 
samlikespad has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Kottayam (India)
State: Kerala
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 615
Join Date: Jun, 2011



Congrats!!!  Clap  Thumbs Up
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #64 on: July 17, 2013, 02:13:22 PM »
rastsaurabh
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 19 
rastsaurabh has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Noida
State: Haryana
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 1558
Join Date: Mar, 2012



Nice Plane and flying.....

Girish ... when i wanted to go to this place ( Sec-29) no one preferred but now you guys are going that great.

regds
Saurabh 
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #65 on: July 17, 2013, 02:17:42 PM »
sanjayrai55
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 85 
sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.
Offline Offline

City: Gurgaon
State: Haryana
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 8337
Join Date: Dec, 2011

Don't wake a Tiger until you've factored the teeth



Thanks VC, Sam and Saurabh Cheesy Thanks

Saurabh.....never too late! Do join us  Grin
Logged

 

Read
« Reply #66 on: July 17, 2013, 02:27:33 PM »
girishsarwal
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 17 
girishsarwal has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Gurgaon
State: Haryana
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 1420
Join Date: May, 2012

DIYer



Saurabh sir, I never refused  Head Scratching. In fact, I don't remember talking about sec 29. Always been a proponent of this place, given that it saves me so much driving...Look forward to see you soon sire  Salute
Logged

gs
 

Read
« Reply #67 on: July 17, 2013, 05:29:41 PM »
vishalrao
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 9 
vishalrao has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Mangalore
State: Karnataka
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 617
Join Date: Nov, 2011

Plane Addict



Congrats Sanjay sir!
Logged

 

Read
« Reply #68 on: July 17, 2013, 05:48:33 PM »
sanjayrai55
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 85 
sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.
Offline Offline

City: Gurgaon
State: Haryana
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 8337
Join Date: Dec, 2011

Don't wake a Tiger until you've factored the teeth



Thanks Vishal!
Sent from my GT-S7562 using Tapatalk 2
Logged

 

Read
« Reply #69 on: July 17, 2013, 06:55:45 PM »
rohitgupta322
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 12 
rohitgupta322 has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Illinois, USA
State: OUTSIDE INDIA
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 986
Join Date: Feb, 2010



Brilliant Sanjay sir! I don't think there is anything wrong with the incidence or CG. It is just the power of the motor. Again, Beautifully built.
Logged

Be Inquisitive
 

Read
« Reply #70 on: July 17, 2013, 10:19:28 PM »
sanjayrai55
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 85 
sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.
Offline Offline

City: Gurgaon
State: Haryana
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 8337
Join Date: Dec, 2011

Don't wake a Tiger until you've factored the teeth



Thank you Rohit. Our experience has shown just that Cheesy
Logged

 

Read
« Reply #71 on: July 18, 2013, 06:29:06 PM »
maahinberi
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 7 
maahinberi has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: Bangalore
State: Karnataka
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 611
Join Date: Feb, 2011

In Thrust, I Trust



Sir, would it help if you make it slightly nose heavy by putting in a bigger battery
Logged

Maahin Beri - Introduction and Hangar
Seagull Arising Star, Seagull Low Wing 40, AviSport (SPAD), Phoenix Scanner, VortexRC Speedster, Martian 220 Racing Quadcopter.
 

Read
« Reply #72 on: July 18, 2013, 06:36:55 PM »
sanjayrai55
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 85 
sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.
Offline Offline

City: Gurgaon
State: Haryana
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 8337
Join Date: Dec, 2011

Don't wake a Tiger until you've factored the teeth



Not needed Maahin. It is fine now. See the video
Logged

 

Read
« Reply #73 on: July 18, 2013, 10:30:08 PM »
VinayakR
Heli Lover
Senior Member
***

Reputation Power: 2 
VinayakR has no influence.
Offline Offline

City: New Hampshire , US
State: OUTSIDE INDIA
RC Skills: Beginner
Posts: 161
Join Date: Sep, 2010



Congratulations Sir !! Nice flight ..She is flying perfect !  Clap
Logged
 

Read
« Reply #74 on: July 19, 2013, 06:34:05 AM »
sanjayrai55
Plane Lover
Forum Hero

*****

Reputation Power: 85 
sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.sanjayrai55 is a force to reckon with.
Offline Offline

City: Gurgaon
State: Haryana
RC Skills: Intermediate
Posts: 8337
Join Date: Dec, 2011

Don't wake a Tiger until you've factored the teeth



Thank you Vinayak
Logged

 

Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 ... 9   Go Up
Jump to:  

Related Topics
Subject Started by Replies Views Last post
Avispad being built
Electric Planes
topalle 23 9564 Last post October 18, 2013, 08:52:47 PM
by shauviks
Want for avispad
Wanted
pateldixit58 2 2572 Last post November 13, 2013, 01:56:44 AM
by IndianHobbyShop
Avispad maiden at vijayawada krishna river
Electric Planes
ramarao 4 4089 Last post April 20, 2014, 07:58:01 PM
by ramarao
Bush style avispad build log « 1 2  All »
Electric Planes
prabal276 39 24681 Last post February 10, 2016, 03:22:12 PM
by sanjayrai55
Avispad « 1 2  All »
Electric Planes
Devanesan Andrews 42 26220 Last post January 14, 2016, 06:01:44 PM
by prabal276