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Title: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 15, 2015, 09:13:32 PM
This will be my first entry for 6th sweepstakes.

This is my first build log.

1st day I was only able to spend only  1 hour today so finished cutting the rib set.



Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 15, 2015, 09:15:39 PM
more pics


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: anwar on June 15, 2015, 09:22:18 PM
Good job on properly documenting the build with date references :thumbsup:

Should turn out to be a beautiful build too.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: sundaram on June 15, 2015, 11:18:08 PM
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Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: rcpilotacro on June 15, 2015, 11:22:58 PM
Should turn out to be a beautiful build too.
+1
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Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 16, 2015, 07:30:06 AM
Should be fantastic! Could you post some specs - span, length, expected AUW, Power Plant etc?


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 16, 2015, 09:23:57 AM
@Anwar  @sundaram @rcpilotacro @sanjai rai -   Thanks you sir

specs

span - 35.6 inch
length - 28.5 inch
AUW - 700 to 800g approx

Havent decided the powerplant yet confused between glow or electric.
If glow cox TD 049
If electric then equivalent motor.

would decide later.



Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 16, 2015, 11:05:58 AM
@ 800 grams, or 2 lbs, as a low wing war model, this would need upward of 250 Watts by my reckoning. The Cox will give you far less power.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 16, 2015, 02:54:51 PM
@ sanjai rai  sir this is the specs given in plan


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 16, 2015, 02:57:51 PM
Todays progress


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 16, 2015, 02:59:19 PM
more pics


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: kamalsahai on June 16, 2015, 04:27:54 PM
postively looking for final product/ mustang

kamal preet


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 16, 2015, 08:06:51 PM
Wing completed


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: K K Iyer on June 16, 2015, 08:31:18 PM
@jana.f22
Looks great  {:)}
In the left wing centre section sheeting is that an ink line or a joint?
A joint is not desirable.
Do you have a TD .049 or .051?
On 25% or so nitro, the will be perhaps twice as powerful as a BabeBee.
Ask Sundaram sir.
BTW, what is the source of the plan? How old?
By current standards 7-800gms for a 36" span is quite high.
My 36" depron Spitfire was 330gms, and had out of sight vertical with a 200watt motor producing 660gms thrust on a 9x5 prop.
Best wishes.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 16, 2015, 09:19:31 PM
@ kk Iyer its a joint sir.
I have TD .049
The plan is from outerzone its rcm plan.

http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=5130

Yes its quite heavy for this size but My friend made a P51D marutaka plan same 36inch it weights around 900g and it powered by electric still performance is flawless, so ill go with electric most probably.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: shobhit17 on June 16, 2015, 09:56:14 PM
thats a really fast build..... great going


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 17, 2015, 08:19:23 AM
@shobit17 thank you sir  am planning to finish and maiden this by this week


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 17, 2015, 02:47:34 PM
Todays progress

Ailerons cut, torque rod installed for ailerons, aileron servo installed & undercarriage installed.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: girishsarwal on June 17, 2015, 02:50:18 PM
jana, the build is coming up very well.
Are those hardwood blocks for the l/g under the wings


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: shobhit17 on June 17, 2015, 02:50:55 PM
Best wishes...... you may like to take notice of the advice given by Mr Iyer..... the joint is not desirable at the place he is talking of..... because it is a place where a lot of weight gets centered due to higher wing loading in turns.  You may like to give a reinforcement by using a thin nylon cloth pasted there with Epozy.... some 3 inch wide piece of cloth would be fine.  Nest time do avoid such a joint.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 17, 2015, 02:57:47 PM
@girishagarwal  Yes its a hard wood block.

@shohit17  sir ill be sticking a fiber glass cloth with epoxy over  the entire mid section for strength for reinforcement.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 17, 2015, 04:52:02 PM
Coming along nicely  :thumbsup:

Glad you are going electric


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: Darshan for multirotors on June 17, 2015, 07:54:10 PM
 (:|~  {:)} :bow:


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: v2 eagle on June 17, 2015, 07:57:32 PM
Wow...Great going jana Ji....

Best of luck. I didnt noticed its yours.

Ashok.P


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 17, 2015, 08:24:03 PM
@ Ashok ji thanks, anyway you will be there during my maiden.
@ Darshan thank you

 wings completed just have to do covering work.

fuse work started.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: v2 eagle on June 17, 2015, 09:23:03 PM
Seems like im getting the balsa fever.

Ashok.P


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: Tora Tora Tora on June 18, 2015, 08:44:31 PM
WOW!


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: shobhit17 on June 18, 2015, 10:01:51 PM
no need to add weight by sticking the clot and epoxy on the entire length.  The model is small and not much of wing loading is expected ... even in tight high G turns manouveors it is not likely to breat the balsa sheeting.... the curved balsa sheeting is very very strong and takes the load.  A true semi monocoque structure.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 19, 2015, 07:57:26 AM
Yesterdays progress(18.6.2015) posting it now

Completed some fuse work



Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 19, 2015, 08:06:05 AM
Woooh! This is one pretty pretty bird!  {:)}


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: K K Iyer on June 19, 2015, 09:15:07 AM
@Jana.f22,
Beautiful!
Hope you have matching canopy an spinner...


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: vishalrao on June 19, 2015, 09:35:51 AM
Inspiring build   {:)}

Never built a balsa wing till now. Feel like building one after seeing this build thread.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: girishsarwal on June 19, 2015, 09:38:19 AM
Super.. Super


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: shobhit17 on June 19, 2015, 03:13:23 PM
Hope you plan to dope the entire Balsa after the construction is over and before the wings are covered.  Do not forget to do the dope as it will give it strength which u will need and also a smooth finish to the wood parts.  More so the structure will be somewhat waterproof.
Nice build


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: K K Iyer on June 19, 2015, 03:48:29 PM
@shobhit17 sir, a real old timer is one who has dope, haha. Where can one still get it? Need some as want to tissue cover a wing.

@jana.f22
Switched from dope (after IHC) to NC Clear (smells and works the same).
Don't know if even that is available any more.
But for wood you can use Asian Touchwood or Nerolac Wonderwood PU.
Remember to put on a super finish. Don't rush it.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 19, 2015, 05:42:14 PM
For dope I use Clear Lacquer

For wood finishing I use Sanding Sealer

http://www.rcindia.org/kites-trains-free-flight-and-all-others/guillows-piper-super-cub-95-20'/

http://www.rcindia.org/kites-trains-free-flight-and-all-others/guillows-supermarine-spitfire/



Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: shobhit17 on June 19, 2015, 06:40:59 PM
Well Dope is actually a Nitro Cellulose (NC) based paint.  Go to any good paint shop and you will have to ask for NC Paint in clear colour.  The same paint used by Car painters which dries in a few minutes.  You will need to add NC bansed thinner about 50% to the paint by volume to thin it to your requirements.
For filler I take some Chalk power and pour some of this thinned paint into it and make a paste.  It dries in a few minutes enough for you to sand the extra one off.  Alternatively you may use any Wall Putty and use it as a filler.  Once sanded well... just apply the dope and let it dry... use a "WELL USED" sandpaper of 120 or more grit to sand the painted surface lightly for a shiny smooth finish.  Even if it does not shine its OK.

I knew this was comming and waiting for it.... ha ha ha... to many people getting cought in the DOPE... ha ha

KK Sir... you can use this Clear NC paint or the clear laquer on the tissue paper covering very well.....


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 19, 2015, 07:13:01 PM
@shobhit, kk Iyer, sanjai rai sir: am using balsa filler that i got tower hobbies and using 120 grid for sanding.

Todays progress

Almost completed the fuse top block and  made a hatch in the front for accessing the electronics which was not in plan, only canopy left that i have to figure it out. the shape has comeout as expected.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 20, 2015, 02:25:43 PM
Started covering the wing

following the red tail scheme


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: K K Iyer on June 20, 2015, 02:50:16 PM
@jana.f22,
Wait, wait!
Before covering the other wing, please take a long sanding block and sand the wing surface smooth.
Start with about 150 grit, finish with the finest you have (300-600).
Don't let the surface irregularities, joint lines etc to show through the covering.
Colour scheme choice is excellent! (Should the star point the other way?)


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 20, 2015, 04:31:06 PM
@kk Iyer I didnt see ur post,  covered the other half sir. I sanded the entire wing with 120 grid. Next time ill improvise sir.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: kamalsahai on June 20, 2015, 05:18:45 PM
source of silver paper sheet and sticker of star with circle

kp


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: kamalsahai on June 20, 2015, 05:19:28 PM
kindly give ur phone no.

kp


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 20, 2015, 07:49:42 PM
sir the silver covering is available in radical rc, hobbyking. the stickering i got it locally from sticker shop. i have pm ed my.mobile no.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: shobhit17 on June 20, 2015, 08:36:09 PM
Well Jana.... one more caution.... if you had brushed the entire wood surface with "DOPE" i.e. the NC Clear laquer..... and then used the 120 grit sand paper to finish it smooth..... the wing and the other surfaces (whereever the wood is) would have been smooth and laquer finished.  If the surfaces are small I simply use QUICKFIX on the wood and spread it all over with my fingers and then let it dry.  This way not only you get an excelent finish on the wood surface (even what goes under the covering) it gived the wood more strength and a great surface for the paper to stick better.

Just try it and remember it next time.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: Tora Tora Tora on June 20, 2015, 09:12:21 PM
Way to go - Jana! Looking goood!


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 20, 2015, 09:58:59 PM
@shobith sir : points noted sir, will try this next time.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: tantragna on June 21, 2015, 12:25:44 AM
Following you build since the start, coming out really nice. I am too fancying towards a balsa build, maybe it is time for me to fetch balsa :) All the best :thumbsup:


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: shobhit17 on June 21, 2015, 12:40:36 PM
Best of luck for the final finish....


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: K K Iyer on June 27, 2015, 05:35:28 PM
@jana.f22,
No update for a week  ???


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on June 28, 2015, 08:50:34 AM
@ KK Iyer sir : I was out of station for a week sir :banghead:, will continue the build by this week. (:|~


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on July 01, 2015, 02:51:31 PM
Started my build again after a break.

Almost finished the covering work


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: bmblb on July 01, 2015, 10:49:16 PM
very neat.....this one I will build some day !


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on July 04, 2015, 07:54:22 PM
After 2 weeks of hard work Completed the build, will do the maiden tomorrow.

Electronics used

Emax
motor- Budget 2215-1200kv
esc-30A
aileron- 17gservo
elevator - 9g servo
flying weight - 650g




Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: rcrcnitesh on July 04, 2015, 08:49:34 PM
Woah! that was amazing.


Title: Re:
Post by: sundaram on July 04, 2015, 10:09:24 PM
That's one beauty wow!!!!!!


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: Tora Tora Tora on July 04, 2015, 10:35:03 PM
Its a beauty - Jana! I will witness the maiden tomorrow


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: wingmanbunty on July 05, 2015, 09:02:01 AM
perfect  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on July 05, 2015, 02:22:26 PM
Finally,Here is the maiden video.

It was a gusty day. So couldnt do a proper landing.

https://youtu.be/foLMLSdn0nY


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on July 05, 2015, 11:44:32 PM
me and my friend arjun with our p51d mustang
rcm.plan - royal marutaka plan


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: rcrcnitesh on July 05, 2015, 11:46:28 PM
Both of you have the same radio and plane! Lol.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: sanjayrai55 on July 06, 2015, 06:39:08 AM
Very nice  {:)} {:)}


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: flyingboxcar on July 06, 2015, 06:01:52 PM
Vouch for the model and the flying. Flying a 40 size model was a challenge and the tiny Mustang was committing aviation :)  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on July 06, 2015, 08:32:37 PM
Thank you sanjai rai sir, thank you captain.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: K K Iyer on July 06, 2015, 09:13:42 PM
@jana.f22,
First class.  {:)}
Quite fast, isn't it?
So finally what did you use for power?


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on July 06, 2015, 10:17:46 PM
@kk iyer sir   I used elecric motor emax budget 2215 1200kv. The model.flies easily at 20% throttle.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: shobhit17 on July 06, 2015, 10:44:42 PM
Lovely nice flight..... Best Wishes


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on July 06, 2015, 11:07:58 PM
thank you sir


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: girishsarwal on July 07, 2015, 06:34:19 AM
Very nice Jana, great work.


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: sanjayrai55 on July 07, 2015, 07:04:24 AM
What was your AUW, and which battery/prop did you use


Title: Re: 1/2A P-51D Mustang for RCI 6th Sweepstake 2015
Post by: jana.f22 on July 07, 2015, 08:08:52 AM
@sanjairai sir  Auw-650g  3s 11.1v 1000mah battery, 10*7 prop