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Title: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 21, 2016, 08:49:37 PM
This is from plans on Outer Zone, and extensively adapted for Electric Power & Corro

(http://s25.postimg.cc/sz183xt8f/IMG_20160228_162450.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 21, 2016, 08:51:39 PM
Could only get 2.5 mm Corro in Yellow. So, lot of reinforcement will be used

Fuse cut-out

(http://s25.postimg.cc/44hq9v8e7/IMG_20160228_122710_1.jpg)

(http://s25.postimg.cc/3ua7qitrz/IMG_20160228_161952.jpg)

(http://s25.postimg.cc/vvo947z27/IMG_20160228_122716.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 21, 2016, 08:52:18 PM
(http://s25.postimg.cc/3zikdxqgv/IMG_20160306_172152.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 21, 2016, 08:53:34 PM
Time to build the main Landing Gear

3 mm Spring Steel

(http://s25.postimg.cc/la8z5yi4f/IMG_20160306_172159.jpg)

(http://s25.postimg.cc/jwhcaniv3/IMG_20160306_181005.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 21, 2016, 08:54:56 PM
(http://s25.postimg.cc/f0dpiyipr/IMG_20160306_183803.jpg)

It's supposed to look something like this:

(http://s25.postimg.cc/5tvevodhb/IMG_20160306_183943.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 21, 2016, 08:56:59 PM
Building it in situ

(http://s25.postimg.cc/f2xl5smdb/IMG_20160307_071425.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 21, 2016, 08:58:38 PM
Used binding wire, followed by epoxy steel

(http://s25.postimg.cc/x70lqfk1r/IMG_20160307_091426.jpg)

(http://s25.postimg.cc/lvxy22d6n/IMG_20160307_090519.jpg)

(http://s25.postimg.cc/tpyjngkzj/IMG_20160307_090527.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 21, 2016, 08:59:49 PM
The bends in the cross-members give spring action. The Cold Weld is 16 years old, still works  ;) ;D ;D


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 21, 2016, 09:00:44 PM
(http://s25.postimg.cc/v6a25lnwf/IMG_20160306_211915.jpg)

(http://s25.postimg.cc/kbx7heu67/IMG_20160307_132243.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: prabal276 on March 21, 2016, 09:04:14 PM
Excellent build sir!
Following the build!


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: K K Iyer on March 21, 2016, 09:55:40 PM
Just look at that last pic of the undercarriage.
Its fantastic!


Title: Re:
Post by: docnayeem on March 21, 2016, 10:22:38 PM
Another masterpiece in the making ..... Great going sir ...


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: Tanmay.mathur on March 21, 2016, 10:30:41 PM
Sir which Electronics you plan to use ?
Truely beautiful


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: prabal276 on March 22, 2016, 09:59:17 AM
Sir;
where did you get the tubes of cold weld?


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 22, 2016, 10:31:01 AM
Thanks Prabal, Iyer sir, Doc, Tanmay!

Iyer sir, I do trust the L/G will take the load and shocks

Tanmay: Standard Servos for Elevator & Rudder, probably 19 g MG for ailerons

Motor - planning a Turnigy G15 950 KV with a 12*6 prop
ESC - 60  HK



Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 22, 2016, 10:34:12 AM
LG Plate 5 mm ply

(http://s25.postimg.cc/s23zmjwhr/IMG_20160309_195829.jpg)

(http://s25.postimg.cc/sg5bm5glb/IMG_20160310_055933.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 22, 2016, 10:35:39 AM
Tail feathers- 2.5 mm Corro doubled, hinge is single

(http://s25.postimg.cc/ggtteub0f/IMG_20160313_173049.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: rastsaurabh on March 22, 2016, 10:44:06 AM
some issue in pics.... not able to see..... problem with me or something else needed.


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 22, 2016, 10:44:43 AM
Battery to go in from the bottom. Hatch cover made

(http://s25.postimg.cc/l59ta1073/IMG_20160312_145259.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 22, 2016, 11:04:12 AM
some issue in pics.... not able to see..... problem with me or something else needed.

Problem with you for sure :D


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 22, 2016, 11:17:25 AM
Firewall

(http://s25.postimg.cc/kh0yr31hb/IMG_20160312_145303.jpg)

Crutch cum battery tray (5 mm corro)

(http://s25.postimg.cc/idqjjf1of/IMG_20160313_173103.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 22, 2016, 11:19:08 AM
Standard Servos and pushrods

(http://s25.postimg.cc/84y2dldmn/IMG_20160317_205533.jpg)

(http://s25.postimg.cc/lbs3quypr/IMG_20160317_205529.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: prabal276 on March 22, 2016, 11:25:41 AM
Sir!
SUCH a high speed build!
Kudos!
How does your adhesive dry so quickly? Mine takes over an hour!
Regards


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: prabal276 on March 22, 2016, 11:28:43 AM
Another thing;
Where do you get those push rods!
I am literally tired of searching alternatives.
I am guessing Hk
Regards


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 22, 2016, 11:45:38 AM
(http://s25.postimg.cc/m00y9sxfj/IMG_20160317_205541.jpg)


(http://s25.postimg.cc/6tuwiv7en/IMG_20160317_205610_HDR.jpg)


(http://s25.postimg.cc/3qu6fhsfz/IMG_20160317_205625_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 22, 2016, 11:53:01 AM
Prabal:

1. I bought the Cold Weld circa 1998 in Muscat, Oman
2. The Pushrods are 2 mm spring steel, available locally
3. I started this build 2 1/2 weeks ago. I use 5 minute epoxy, SR 998, Hot Glue and Cyano none of which take much time to dry


The real challenge has been that I can only devote 6-7 hours a week, and a lot of time goes into figuring out how to adapt into a corro build, with materials, tools and techniques available to me. If you see the original plans (http://www.outerzone.co.uk/plan_details.asp?ID=6597) you will appreciate the complexity of conversion. I only use the outer dimensions from the plans. The sheer size of the model leads to a different sort of corro build, not the usual. Which, actually, is the fun  ;D


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 22, 2016, 12:08:26 PM
Tail section glued in. Tail Gear fitted

(http://s25.postimg.cc/upg4b22bj/IMG_20160318_203544_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 22, 2016, 12:09:35 PM
Time to leave this, and start on the wing

(http://s25.postimg.cc/9r9ycz2gv/IMG_20160319_200548_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 22, 2016, 12:15:07 PM
Wing is 2.5 mm corro. A 1 0 dihedral at 71" span translates to 1.3" approx.

(http://s25.postimg.cc/4jov8ilvj/IMG_20160320_132012_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 22, 2016, 12:16:38 PM
Planning to put 4 ribs for....Good Luck?  :D :D

(http://s25.postimg.cc/6pj630pbz/IMG_20160320_202335_AO_HDR.jpg)

(http://s25.postimg.cc/aajmzzj9b/IMG_20160321_194747_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 22, 2016, 12:17:22 PM
Although the spar is 12 mm balsa, I don't think it will be enough


Title: Re:
Post by: prabal276 on March 22, 2016, 12:34:04 PM
Thank you sir!!!
Best of luck!
Be on the lookout for my new plane!  ;)
Regards


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sundaram on March 22, 2016, 01:27:03 PM
Awesome Build Sir  {:)} wonderful adaptations.


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 22, 2016, 01:40:34 PM
Thank you Colonel  :salute:


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: gaurang.1972 on March 23, 2016, 12:52:17 AM
Excellent build sir {:)} {:)} {:)} congrats  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 23, 2016, 01:35:57 PM
Thank you Gaurang. Still a long way to go


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 23, 2016, 01:36:52 PM
Wing continues. It's a big wing, and the Corro is not very strong, so additional reinforcement

(http://s25.postimg.cc/7a2sjg7y7/IMG_20160322_204318_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: satz flying on March 23, 2016, 04:28:57 PM
Beautiful build sir. Keep going.  your work is making me to build a plane.


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: ramarao on March 23, 2016, 04:40:07 PM
awesome build sir.......:) :) :)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 23, 2016, 05:06:14 PM
Thanks Satish, Ramarao  :thanks:


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: Tanmay.mathur on March 23, 2016, 05:22:42 PM
Sir how much the landing gear weighs


Title: Re:
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 23, 2016, 07:09:52 PM
About 65 grams without wheels (wire frame only)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: Tanmay.mathur on March 23, 2016, 08:27:50 PM
Not right place but still how landing gear is mounted directly on coro surface .
Would a harsh landing will tore the coro and landing gear wires will go inside the fuse ?


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: VTOLkarthik on March 23, 2016, 08:51:18 PM
Awesome build !


Title: Re:
Post by: a3ruz on March 23, 2016, 10:08:44 PM
Awesome build sir ! Well documented !
Is it safe to screw directly  to corro ? 
Are those wood seen in the fuselage are fully balsa / whether it's normal 5mm ply ?


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 24, 2016, 05:43:46 AM
Not right place but still how landing gear is mounted directly on coro surface .
Would a harsh landing will tore the coro and landing gear wires will go inside the fuse ?

Very much the right place to ask this :D

Look again. There is a 5 mm plywood Landing Gear plate on the inside. The LG nylon clips screw into this.


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 24, 2016, 05:45:00 AM
Thank you Karthik and a3

a3: which wood are you referring to? There is Balsa & Ply both used extensively. Also, which screws?


Title: Re:
Post by: a3ruz on March 24, 2016, 06:53:38 AM
Wood inside the fuselage , n screws used to attach the tail gear .


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 24, 2016, 07:28:48 AM
The thin sheets are 2 mm light ply
The triangle stock and square section is balsa
The crews are not fastened to corro. Look carefully: I have made a 'strap' from pieces of an old credit card. The screws go into that


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 24, 2016, 07:29:09 AM
Wing tip work

(http://s25.postimg.cc/ubx5ufbr3/IMG_20160324_054049_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 24, 2016, 07:29:57 AM
Supports for the hinges on the struts

(http://s25.postimg.cc/nmqmeeqf3/IMG_20160324_054054_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: Tanmay.mathur on March 24, 2016, 09:56:37 AM
Sir how do pipers handle in the wind?


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 24, 2016, 10:01:45 AM
Nothing much to do with Pipers. More on weight, size etc. of model

However, the few I have seen flying (models, not full size) did seem to have a tip-stall tendency


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: Tanmay.mathur on March 24, 2016, 10:15:28 AM
So which do you prefer for beginner- oshkosh trainer or piper. Both as 4ch.


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: Tanmay.mathur on March 24, 2016, 10:20:01 AM
www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1040899
oshkosh


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 24, 2016, 11:27:03 AM
Neither


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 24, 2016, 11:35:42 AM
(http://s25.postimg.cc/gal68v873/IMG_20160324_112052_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: flyingboxcar on March 24, 2016, 05:11:49 PM
I see you have apprehensions about strength of the wing with that 12mm balsa spar. The best way (in terms of weight addition etc) to overcome the situation is to use functional wing struts. Those would not only look scale but also serve to provide you the required strength. Make the struts out of suitable dia wire and clad them with balsa. You can solder on metal plates at the end with suitable hole through which you can screw/bolt the struts to fuse and wing hard points  


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 24, 2016, 06:11:10 PM
I am making them :D

Part of the plans, and were in fact the first materials I checked before starting. I will be using 8 mm Aluminium Tubing

But, I still have apprehensions  :D :D.

And Captain, thanks so much for the support  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 24, 2016, 07:15:50 PM
Actually post # 50 mentions it

And, in continuation:

(http://s25.postimg.cc/gal68v873/IMG_20160324_112052_AO_HDR.jpg)

Hinges for the wing Struts:

(http://s25.postimg.cc/vai4agegv/IMG_20160324_122619_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 24, 2016, 07:17:28 PM
Hinges fitted into the balsa block already glued in. The wire strut support will fit into the ply piece already glued in the wing inner

(http://s25.postimg.cc/ujpe4oc3j/IMG_20160324_174144_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 24, 2016, 07:18:11 PM
Closing up the wing

(http://s25.postimg.cc/gftiwa4vz/IMG_20160324_134825_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 24, 2016, 07:19:05 PM
Wing completed

(http://s25.postimg.cc/imxrk7a67/IMG_20160324_190615_AO_HDR.jpg)

(http://s25.postimg.cc/liaur2e67/IMG_20160324_190631_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 24, 2016, 07:19:37 PM
Used 19 gm MG HK servos


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 24, 2016, 08:43:20 PM
Checking wing incidence and likely CoG position

(http://s25.postimg.cc/9ugswip1b/IMG_20160324_200047_AO_HDR.jpg)

(http://s25.postimg.cc/kikjvcz0f/IMG_20160324_200119_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: K K Iyer on March 24, 2016, 09:45:53 PM
Sir,
I fear that this thread may convert me into a Coro builder!
Please share expected wing loading and proposed power.
Did you consider spar made of 'baten'? (As in Windows), instead of balsa?
Regards


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 25, 2016, 06:23:32 AM
Iyer sir, never fear. Convert  :D :D

Here are the specs from post # 1

(http://s25.postimg.cc/sz183xt8f/IMG_20160228_162450.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 25, 2016, 06:52:30 AM
As per the designer, weight is 1700 gms + RC equipment, ie 4 standard servos + Rx Battery, Rx, wires etc. Say 300 gm approx giving a total weight of 2 Kg

Wing Area is 46.4 dm2

So a wing loading of about 43 g/dm2

In the write up, the designer recommends a 19 to 25. I'm not so interested in speed. So I'm using a Turnigy G 15 - 950 KV with a 12*6

RC Tools shows:

12*6
30 deg. C
9000 rpm
Static Thrust 2.01 Kg
453 Watts
Flying Speed 51 mph (about 80 KmPH)

Which should be OK.

The motor specs:

Spec.
Battery: 3~4 Cell /11.1~14.8V
RPM: 950kv
Max current: 34A
No load current: 10V/2.0A
Current capacity: 42A/15sec
Internal resistance: 0.03 ohm
Weight: 152g  (not including connectors)
Diameter of shaft: 5mm
Dimensions: 73x35mm

Required;
45A ESC
3S~4S Li-Po / 8 ~ 12-cell Ni-MH/Ni-Cd
10x6 ~ 13x6.5 prop



Although it says max current 34 A, a 13 X 6.5 Prop will draw over 50 A at full throttle. So I'm going with this

In normal cruising, with a weight of 4.4 lbs, I do not think the wattage will exceed 250-280 W

I am most interested in hearing your views!


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: asinghatiya on March 25, 2016, 11:25:59 AM
 :o THIS IS beautiful sir!

Wait for me, will do its maiden  ;D


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 25, 2016, 11:27:16 AM
Thanks Arvind. Waiting.............. :giggle: :giggle:


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: rastsaurabh on March 25, 2016, 02:11:36 PM
It will be good get-together again.


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 26, 2016, 11:01:21 AM
We all wish so Saurabh. But Bangalore to Gurgaon is indeed further than Noida to Gurgaon  :) ;) ;)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: prabal276 on March 26, 2016, 04:44:46 PM
When will this bird fly?
Regards
P.s - excellent build sir!


Title: Re:
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 26, 2016, 05:28:48 PM
It will take another week to 10 days to get ready I figure


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 26, 2016, 06:23:36 PM
Been reading more about the dreaded tip-stall

Seems quite common with Piper Cubs!

The flat bottomed wing means on power there is a tendency to climb (ballon). On aileron turns, at lower speed, the inner wing half will turn slower than the outer. So the outer will tend to rise... progressively....and lead to a spin  >:D

Seen it happen to some of the better fliers on our field too, and yes, on the Piper Cub  >:D >:D

Well, I'm not that good a flier, so this is what I'm planning:

1. Turns will be rudder-aileron co-ordinated - start with rudder eg left rudder for a left turn, add a little left aileron to complete the turn, release rudder, right aileron to level wings
2. Will put about 3-4 mm aileron reflex. Barn door ailerons only about 1/3 of the span, hope it will act as washout
3. For landing, will have to "fly it in"under power
4. Will use 2:1 differential aileron

Would appreciate suggestions from the seniors on this


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: girishsarwal on March 27, 2016, 12:38:03 AM
Sanjay sir,
The cub is taking shape beautifully. Now I and Arvind will have to strike a deal as to who gets to maiden this.  >:D


Title: Re:
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 27, 2016, 05:34:08 AM
Ha! :D


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: rastsaurabh on March 27, 2016, 08:28:28 AM
Hello Sir, Build is coming out good. I see special focus to strengthening to the Wing, Specially the innovative idea of angle adjustable Wing struts.

regds
Saurabh


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: asinghatiya on March 27, 2016, 08:39:30 AM
 ;D @Girish, lets maiden it together.... bring a trainer cord  :giggle:....so that you will also learn how to maiden a plane safely  8-)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 27, 2016, 10:39:45 AM
Thanks Saurabh

Arvind: You and Girish maidening a Piper Cub?  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on March 27, 2016, 11:21:32 AM
Wing Struts construction. I am using a 9 mm OD Aluminium tube

(http://s23.postimg.cc/prjvy1xsr/IMG_20160326_211340_AO_HDR.jpg)

(http://s23.postimg.cc/onzrm3d5n/IMG_20160327_051331_AO_HDR.jpg)

(http://s23.postimg.cc/8oh42jh3v/IMG_20160327_052635_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 03, 2016, 07:46:17 PM
With lots of work, and WC T20 cricket, didn't get much time last week. Anyway, did something today

(http://s13.postimg.cc/dcl63p22v/IMG_20160403_125847_AO_HDR.jpg)

(http://s13.postimg.cc/j21eo0893/IMG_20160403_132204_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 03, 2016, 07:48:22 PM
First step was fitting the wings in place. So put the battery etc., figured out the CoG, and fitted wing bolt mounts. The model is slightly tail heavy now; have to do some further work on the front end, then will see if I need to add any nose weight


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 03, 2016, 07:52:30 PM
(http://s25.postimg.cc/het6ka9mn/IMG_20160403_132333_AO_HDR.jpg)

The wing mount supports are made of 12 mm balsa sandwiched between 2 mm ply sheets. Used 6 mm blind nuts

(http://s25.postimg.cc/g9uj15xrz/IMG_20160403_132353_AO_HDR.jpg)

Used self tapping screws first for location, and later as functional. Epoxied in the mount  supports. Ran a drop of cyano into the balsa, else the threads get worn too fast

(http://s25.postimg.cc/vjyzm3inz/IMG_20160403_134138_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 03, 2016, 07:54:40 PM
Just did a quick check on Incidence Angle.

(http://s25.postimg.cc/uya0pznlr/IMG_20160403_063536_AO_HDR.jpg)

(http://s25.postimg.cc/suzlibnsv/IMG_20160403_063532_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: satz flying on April 03, 2016, 08:04:59 PM
Coming greatly sir. Looking for a maiden video..


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: rastsaurabh on April 03, 2016, 10:07:03 PM
Hello Rai Sir,
Its looking huge and great.
is there any angle of incidence or perfect horizontal?
Pic of wing struts, please.

regads
Saurabh


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: girishsarwal on April 04, 2016, 01:55:13 PM
zabardast, when is the maiden?


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 04, 2016, 02:06:09 PM
Thanks Satz

Thanks Saurabh. No angle is mentioned, but in the drawing there seems to be a very small angle, like LE about 8 mm higher than TE w.r.t. Stab. I'll put pics soon of the struts

Thanks Girish. I think another 2 Sundays and it will be ready. Maiden after that, but need a place to fly it: can't fly it in the usual park at Sector 29


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 08, 2016, 11:37:01 AM
Been a busy week, not much time

Struts trial fit-up



Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 08, 2016, 11:38:38 AM
ctd. -



Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 08, 2016, 12:15:56 PM
Trial fitment done



Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: girishsarwal on April 08, 2016, 01:25:19 PM
 :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :hatsoff: :hatsoff: :hatsoff: :hatsoff: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: prabal276 on April 08, 2016, 05:27:27 PM
i am getting jealous!!!


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: Dr. Abhishek Agrawal on April 08, 2016, 10:26:46 PM
Beautiful Build sanjay sir {:)} {:)} {:)} {:)}


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 09, 2016, 10:01:51 AM
Thanks Girish, Prabal and Dr. Abhishek  :thanks:


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 09, 2016, 10:43:30 AM
And now for the front end, windshield and cowl

(https://s25.postimg.cc/57bnxhzjz/IMG_20160408_054744_AO_HDR.jpg)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/t0ux2g3en/IMG_20160409_054729_AO_HDR.jpg)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/ifb1qfx33/IMG_20160409_060523_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 09, 2016, 10:44:26 AM
(https://s25.postimg.cc/ifb1qfx33/IMG_20160409_060523_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: manojswizera on April 10, 2016, 09:10:30 AM
WOW.. beauty sir.
 The wing struts are old tv antenna ??

Cub is one of my favorite model, thinking of building one from long time.
Your build is inspiring me to build soon.


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 10, 2016, 10:05:50 AM
Thanks Manoj

Not really TV antennae, but similar. Simple 8/9 mm Aluminium tube from a hardware store.

Go ahead and make one Manoj - there are countless plans for cubs in various sizes, power sources and materials on the net.


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 10, 2016, 10:36:06 AM
(https://s25.postimg.cc/57bnxhzjz/IMG_20160408_054744_AO_HDR.jpg)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/t0ux2g3en/IMG_20160409_054729_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 10, 2016, 10:36:58 AM
(https://s25.postimg.cc/ifb1qfx33/IMG_20160409_060523_AO_HDR.jpg)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/i04db60jj/IMG_20160410_093504_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 10, 2016, 10:37:41 AM
(https://s25.postimg.cc/w06f3b29r/IMG_20160410_093524_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 10, 2016, 08:05:18 PM
Waiting for the paint on the struts to dry. Put some scale-like decorations

(https://s25.postimg.cc/to3iqd8hr/IMG_20160410_193833_AO_HDR.jpg)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/odyjz2o8v/IMG_20160410_193842_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 10, 2016, 08:06:11 PM
(https://s25.postimg.cc/p7fr5fjnj/IMG_20160410_193909_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: SI74 on April 10, 2016, 08:37:04 PM
Wow! Obsessed with Perfection! Congrats!


Title: Re:
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 10, 2016, 09:29:20 PM
Thank you

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Title: Re:
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 10, 2016, 09:30:09 PM
Here's a question: what is the significance of the number VT-DFR?

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Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 10, 2016, 09:31:32 PM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160410/f06091aff8175996ee0ad2c7ff97974c.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: girishsarwal on April 10, 2016, 09:43:17 PM
Sanjay sir, that cub is shouting for an engine to be mounted on it. Everything is so scale about it except the electric setup!


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: K K Iyer on April 10, 2016, 10:08:42 PM
@sanjarai55,
Too easy.
Registered 4/7/1951
Belongs to Bombay Aero Club at Juhu.
I checked it even before your post, as i was curious.

Wait till you come to regn nos that are gone.
I find it hard to believe that VT GDD, that i soloed on,
no longer belongs to my much loved Schweizer 2-22
No icon for tears?


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: SI74 on April 10, 2016, 10:54:19 PM
Sir, I googled it  ;D found this.


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 11, 2016, 10:41:43 AM
Delta Foxtrot Romeo is no ordinary airplane as it carries not only the legacy of legendary JRD Tata but also has the distinction of being India's oldest flyable aircraft.

Claimed to be the "oldest flyable aircraft" not only in India but but all of Asia, VT-DFR, as the call sign of the Piper Super Cub PA 18 says, was imported in the late 1940s and had joined the fleet of The Bombay Flying Club (BFC) in 1951 after registration.


Still owned by the BFC, the oldest flying school in the country, VT-DFR's legacy includes being flown by the iconic JRD Tata, who was also the first commercial pilot of India, besides serving as a training aircraft to hundreds of aviators who went on to serve various airlines and flying academies.

"Altogether there were six Piper Super Cub PA-18 aircraft which were imported here in the 1940s. This particular aircraft was one of the favourites of JRD Tata and was therefore registered with the call sign DFR where R is for Romeo," says BFC president Capt Mihir Bhagwati, president BFC.

Weighing 480 kgs, the 125 bhp Lycoming engine aircraft flaunts wooden propellers and seats two pilots in tandem (one behind the other). It remained continuously in service until the late 1990s following which it was briefly taken off duty due to airworthiness issues, only to be brought back in a restored condition a few years later.

"Of the total six PA-18 which were imported, two crashed while two others were sold out in late 80s. Other is still with us and we are planning to restore that one also.

"VT-DFR, however, continued to fly till late 90s before it was taken off service due to airworthiness issues. It was then fully restored from 2003 to 2010 according to new specifications and is now again put to use," Capt Bhagwati, who last flew the machine on December 15, told PTI.

This aircraft has in total clocked six to seven thousand flying hours and 120 hours in the last five years, Capt Bhagwati said, adding "this is not only the oldest flyable aircraft in India but entire Asia."

"Now we don't use VT-DFR for commercial purpose, it is though sometimes used for hobby flying or licence renewal flying" he said, adding "this is a historic aircraft, we want to maintain its legacy".

Narrating an anecdote, Captain J P Sharma, the Chief Flying Instructor at the Bombay Flying Club, says on October 15, 1932 JRD Tata flew India's first commercial flight for the Tata Airlines, which later became Air India. He had flown with 25 kgs of mails from Karachi to Juhu airport in Mumbai, then known as Bombay, on de Havilland Puss Moth (the aircraft).


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 11, 2016, 10:56:17 AM
Girish: it is now an electric only  8)

The front end etc. has been designed accordingly, and is not strong enough structurally for a Nitro with the higher vibrations and need for fuelproofing, tank placement etc.. Keeping in mind the size, weight, and (slow) scale flying I want, a 12*6 prop spinning at a lowish RPM - 6000 to 10,000 range should be OK. So I have worked around that

The designer has mentioned a 19 to 35 Nitro. A 19 would use probably a 9*5 prop, and a 35 a 10*6. One would have to fly at medium to high throttle to get the torque, which would mean the model would fly pretty fast too. So I'll go with an electric set-up for now and we'll take it from there.

The model designer stated 1.7 Kg without electronics; I should be total 2 Kg AUW (Flying weight) So I would need about 400 watts for take-off and maybe 250-300 for cruising. Hoping for the best here



Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: girishsarwal on April 11, 2016, 11:01:42 AM
All the best for the maiden chief


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 11, 2016, 11:03:09 AM
Thanks Girish, and the same to you too  :rofl: :rofl:


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: samlikespad on April 11, 2016, 12:16:11 PM
Super build Sanjay Bhayya  {:)} {:)} {:)} Eager to see her spread her wings  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 11, 2016, 12:36:01 PM
Thanks Sam.

Hoping to maiden this coming Sunday  ;D


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: prabal276 on April 11, 2016, 02:36:48 PM
I will be there with my EXPLORER
BTW; excellent build sir!


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 11, 2016, 05:47:02 PM
Thanks Prabal


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sahilkit on April 12, 2016, 10:29:40 AM
so any maiden videos ?


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 12, 2016, 10:43:01 AM
Not yet. I still have some work to do in completing it


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 17, 2016, 12:51:39 PM
Setting the controls and throws

(https://s25.postimg.cc/xfjivx7b3/IMG_20160417_122543_AO_HDR.jpg)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/dyyt9ec73/IMG_20160417_122849_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: prabal276 on April 17, 2016, 03:10:24 PM
sir;
Maiden.when?
 ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 17, 2016, 07:18:18 PM
After the build is complete, obviously  ;)

(https://s25.postimg.cc/ppcqqs4zj/IMG_20160417_180422_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 17, 2016, 07:19:41 PM
(https://s25.postimg.cc/tn00g6rsv/IMG_20160417_180437_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 17, 2016, 07:20:07 PM
(https://s25.postimg.cc/esbf20i7z/IMG_20160417_184336_AO_HDR.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 17, 2016, 07:20:43 PM
Next: Radio settings, with differential aileron


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: prabal276 on April 17, 2016, 07:53:31 PM
sir;
Excellent plane!
Another question.
How is the hitec optic 6?
Is it a good radio?
Any other good radios for that price range? 12k to 18k?
(if i buy something like that; ill have to save up a lot of pocket money. ;D ;D)
Regards


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 17, 2016, 07:59:42 PM
Legendary reliability. Does most everything you ask of a Radio Set. Cheap Receivers available at Hobby King: Delta 8 recommended

If someone is coming from USA then get it, or get Taranis X9D


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 17, 2016, 08:02:09 PM
Many people praise the Turnigy 9X coupled with FrSky Mod. Personally I feel the Taranis has better quality hardware and better features

Radios are not something you buy everyday; if you are in the hobby for the long haul, might be better to invest in a good radio. JR too has some good deals


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: prabal276 on April 17, 2016, 08:12:15 PM
Thank you very much sir!
i do not think that there is anybody coming from the us.
If somebody had been; i would have got spektrum series. ;D ;D
Ill go for taranis X9d.
now just to find it in india. :headscratch:


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: rastsaurabh on April 17, 2016, 11:26:59 PM
Just waiting for maiden


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: Himadri Roy on April 17, 2016, 11:58:44 PM
Many people praise the Turnigy 9X coupled with FrSky Mod. Personally I feel the Taranis has better quality hardware and better features

Radios are not something you buy everyday; if you are in the hobby for the long haul, might be better to invest in a good radio. JR too has some good deals
You can just do well with the Turnigy 9x and Frsky Combo..but yes the Taranis does feel solid and premium. Better gimbals..though the software OpenTx is not that user friendly..but manageable. If going for Spektrum go for Dx7 or higher as they are said to have the best quality gimbals and the feel is very nice. But with Taranis you can always be sure of a solid radio link.
What Sanjay sir has told is absolutely true..if you think you are going to stick around this hobby for a while get a good radio...also keep in mind while buying the radio look at the cost and availability of the receivers. You don't want the receivers burning hole in your pocket  :P
Spektrum receivers cost a bomb(comparing to Frsky receivers) and don't offer a good value for money(my view)

now just to find it in india. :headscratch:
Rcproduct.in has it. RCM is getting them in stock.


Sanjay Sir that's an absolute beauty.  :bow:
Please do start selling ARF kits...will surely buy ;D :giggle:


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: prabal276 on April 18, 2016, 10:13:33 PM
Thanks for the suggestions
Himadri sir!


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: maahinberi on May 20, 2016, 10:40:09 PM
Eagerly waiting for maiden


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: maahinberi on May 20, 2016, 10:43:51 PM
BTW, this plane needs:

(http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/catalog/54506_m.jpg)

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__54506__Aerostar_Electric_Series_Wood_Propeller_12x6_1pc_.html


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: maahinberi on May 21, 2016, 08:56:55 AM
And a red cowl

(https://d31asmy75eposw.cloudfront.net/full/5/27923_1448467220.jpg)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on May 21, 2016, 09:53:02 AM
Aah, well  :-X


Title: Re:
Post by: maahinberi on May 21, 2016, 10:17:07 AM
Get that prop, and use red vinyl on the coro that sticks out after the firewall

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Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on September 18, 2016, 06:06:29 PM
Finally maidened today  ;D

Video uploading


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: satz flying on September 18, 2016, 06:22:49 PM
Waiting . . .


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on September 18, 2016, 06:56:06 PM
https://youtu.be/4u7u7CAGuRE


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on September 18, 2016, 06:57:54 PM
https://youtu.be/hpovg1xfCAQ


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: prabal276 on September 18, 2016, 11:25:00 PM
Awesome,
Giant plane and a beautiful flier sir!


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on September 19, 2016, 05:30:49 AM
Thank you Prabal  :thanks:


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on September 19, 2016, 05:37:27 AM
A certain Gentleman, a newcomer, wanted to know the significance of "1/6" in the title.

This is a Scale Model. ie it tries to look (and, hopefully fly too!) just like the full size version. So, the design has been ''scaled down''

The original Piper Cub has a 36 feet wingspan. At 1/6 scale, this should have 6 feet, which indeed it does.Similarly with all the other dimensions, as far as practically possible

There is a concept of Scale Speed also, but we will go into that later


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: manojswizera on September 19, 2016, 11:46:33 AM
 {:)}

me too building one.


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on September 19, 2016, 05:36:06 PM
Great! Please improve on it!


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: rcrcnitesh on September 19, 2016, 06:40:14 PM
@sanjay sir
The plane flies beautifully. Another masterpiece by Sanjay sir.


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on September 19, 2016, 06:58:15 PM
Thanks Nitesh  8)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: samlikespad on September 19, 2016, 07:33:37 PM
Congrats! on the successful maiden flight Sanjay Bhayya  :salute: {:)} {:)} {:)}


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on September 19, 2016, 08:04:17 PM
Thanks Sam  :thanks:

Rarely see you on the forum nowadays. Enjoying Saudi too much? ;)


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: Nithinraj Kotian on September 20, 2016, 03:00:05 AM
Awesome build Sanjay Sir  {:)} {:)} :hatsoff: :hatsoff:   


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on September 20, 2016, 05:25:26 AM
Thanks so much Nithinraj

Seeing you on the forum after a long time too :D


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: samlikespad on September 20, 2016, 07:43:47 PM
Thanks Sam  :thanks:

Rarely see you on the forum nowadays. Enjoying Saudi too much? ;)


lol, no Sanjay Bhayya....was detached from the hobby for a short while..now I am back :D


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: wingmanbunty on June 17, 2017, 09:12:14 AM
nice airplane


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 17, 2017, 09:32:13 AM
 :thanks: Bunty


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on October 12, 2018, 07:22:29 PM
Direct link to the pictures:

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1kn7xzaik/

https://postimg.cc/gallery/ja39oy58/

PS - this model has been gifted to a friend. Hope he flies it soon and post videos  ;D


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: rastsaurabh on February 15, 2019, 02:24:35 PM
Mar 2016 ....... Status update for this beautiful plane.... Feb 2019 ( nearly 3 years)
I am grateful  to Sanjay sir to let me have this plan as gift .

I have this CUB still and have flown it once its wonderful plane both Scale look wise and Flying.

I will soon upload some pics and videos .

Regds
Saurabh


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: K K Iyer on February 15, 2019, 08:55:24 PM
Mar 2016 ....... Status update for this beautiful plane.... Feb 2019 ( nearly 3 years)
I am grateful  to Sanjay sir to let me have this plan as gift .

I have this CUB still and have flown it once its wonderful plane both Scale look wise and Flying.

I will soon upload some pics and videos .

Regds
Saurabh

Plan or plane?  ;D


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on February 16, 2019, 05:17:09 PM
Very bad Saurabh

 :argue:


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: Jaiswal on February 21, 2019, 11:24:19 AM
Which amount this plane


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: Jaiswal on February 21, 2019, 12:27:31 PM
hi sir mujhe ye plane Lena he
8090374901


Title: Re: 1/6 Piper Cub (Svenson) in Corro
Post by: sanjayrai55 on February 21, 2019, 05:00:49 PM
I am not in the business of selling planes