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Title: 60% Curare Foamy
Post by: K K Iyer on January 18, 2015, 12:18:19 PM
First build of 2015.



Title: Re: 60% Curare Foamy
Post by: K K Iyer on January 18, 2015, 12:29:37 PM
A few more pics.


Title: Re: 60% Curare Foamy
Post by: sahilkit on January 18, 2015, 12:35:49 PM
60% of pre-existing plans ??. what happened to fiberglass cowl and are you planning for prop nose cone.


Title: Re: 60% Curare Foamy
Post by: K K Iyer on January 18, 2015, 01:16:47 PM
60% of Hanno Prettner's Kato Models plan from outerzone.co.uk
Didn't even print.
Download on my iPad showed 96mm span. Made mine 96cm to ease calculating other dimensions.
Main spar has taper and sweepback. Retained taper, but cheated by straightening the sweep.
Hence TE is swept forward more than in the original.
Finally found a use for my 2200kv Turnigy 2826. Surprisingly it took a 7x4 without overloading. But then i usually fly at half throttle, including takeoff/launch!
(Canopy is fibreglass. Yet to build new cowl, for which new plug made)

After my maiden, Harveer couldn't resist.
He had even brought along a spare Rx (he's Mode 1)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=IQrmpGGd3ik (http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=IQrmpGGd3ik)

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=IQrmpGGd3ik (http://)


Title: Re: 60% Curare Foamy
Post by: sahilkit on January 18, 2015, 02:56:55 PM
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After my maiden, Harveer couldn't resist. He had even brought along a spare Rx (he's Mode 1)
  ;D

Me and my friend are on Mode 2, so we share and fly alternately  :)

hopefully once I graduate to sport flyers I will build a similar one  ;)  (i'm at slow-flyer .... full size trainer ..........sport).

also you calculate your battery time or estimated time to set the down timer on the radio or  :headscratch:. I use a up timer throttle activated for flight timing.

Sahil


Title: Re: 60% Curare Foamy
Post by: sanjayrai55 on January 18, 2015, 08:34:37 PM
Wonderful, Iyer sir  {:)} {:)} :bow:


Title: Re: 60% Curare Foamy
Post by: VC on January 18, 2015, 08:41:15 PM
Well done Sir!


Title: Re: 60% Curare Foamy
Post by: K K Iyer on January 18, 2015, 08:49:49 PM
@sanjayrai55,
@VC,

A pat on the back from really experienced modellers feels great. Thanks.


Title: Re: 60% Curare Foamy
Post by: ashok baijal on January 18, 2015, 09:56:23 PM
Nice.


Title: Re:
Post by: docnayeem on January 19, 2015, 10:58:35 AM
Iyer Sir..  Thumbs up


Title: Re: 60% Curare Foamy
Post by: K K Iyer on March 21, 2015, 10:49:37 PM
Glad to report that my 60% Curare Foamy enabled me to achieve a long awaited goal.
Half roll immediately after takeoff, followed by half outside loop, coming back full bore towards me...

But i did wonder why she needed so much up trim to fly level (pic 1)

Found that foamy fuselages bend downwards under tension of the rubber bands under the wing!

Solution: balsa stiffeners on the sides (pic 2)

Proof of theory tomorrow...


Title: Re: 60% Curare Foamy
Post by: K K Iyer on May 03, 2015, 10:33:14 PM
Last two Sundays she didn't fly too well.
I guessed the reason must be the slop in the left aileron linkage.
Fixed that today.
Flew beautifully today. Including continuous inverted circuits.
So got the courage to do consecutive Cuban 8s.
Result: Crash!

Last two weeks we had a few failures.
Flying Doc's Skysurfer lost all command and crashed.
After a few minutes, everything worked, and flew fine.
My Curare suddenly went into a vertical dive, fortunately recovering just in time.

Since we found that the batteries, motors, ESCs and even receivers are getting unusually hot, we figured it was the hot weather upsetting the receivers.

Could that be the reason?
Can 40 deg centigrade affect the Rx? Should Rx be placed outside? Will try that.
Or is it Pilot Error that we are blaming on the radio?
I used FrSky 2.4 module and 4ch Rx on these flights.
Will be back as soon as I fix the Curare!


Title: Re: 60% Curare Foamy
Post by: sahilkit on May 03, 2015, 10:52:31 PM
if possible setup telemetry to record and trouble shoot, were you guys flying at noon and what was the temperature like ?

Sahil


Title: Re: 60% Curare Foamy
Post by: sahilkit on May 04, 2015, 10:00:54 AM
just a thought may be the BEC is going into thermal shutdown and recovering shortly after cooling.


Title: Re: 60% Curare Foamy
Post by: K K Iyer on May 04, 2015, 12:14:10 PM
@sahilkit,
Thanks for the idea. Worth checking.
It will give the temp sensor something to do!
Only used it once about a year ago to check ambient temp. (29deg on ground, 28 at 300ft)


Title: Re: 60% Curare Foamy
Post by: saikat on May 04, 2015, 06:18:51 PM
Rx will lose communication in case of a brownout - when
motor is drawing too much power and the pack voltage dips , even for
a very short while

while the rx can easily work down to 3.3 volt levels the linear regulator
in a esc can only supply a steady 5 volts if there is a +2 volt difference
on the input side.

did this happen well into the flight while doing high throttle maneuvers  ? and was the pack - a well used one ?

to safe guard against this - 100% peace of mind - use a separate rx pack- even a single cell
Lipo of 200 mah is enough as the load of rx will be around max 50 mah and
the frsky rx work upto 3.3 volt levels.

All the above is from experience - pls validate before doing.


Title: Re: 60% Curare Foamy
Post by: K K Iyer on May 04, 2015, 06:48:49 PM
@saikat sir,
Thanks. Separate battery may a good precaution.

But sometimes i wonder if we look for esoteric reasons and miss prosaic ones.
Open heart surgery (not autopsy!) showed broken elevator pushrod (1/8 sq balsa. In hindsight too soft)

Could have cracked due to accidental external load while moving fully assembled in/out of car.
Breakage due to crash seems unlikely as no such load noticed.

Pushrod splinted. New nose to be built. With larger air inlet!


Title: Re: 60% Curare Foamy
Post by: saikat on May 04, 2015, 09:05:54 PM
Ha ! Good one ... yes , sometimes one misses the woods because of the trees.