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« Reply #50 on: June 24, 2010, 12:33:16 PM »
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EDIT: Sorry the ESC wont hold good for that motor. Get an 150 Amps Opto and use a seperate 10 Amps BEC.

Hope this helps.  Salute
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« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2010, 01:25:16 PM »
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« Reply #52 on: June 24, 2010, 03:30:12 PM »
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6) Re Dipping the plane in Expoxy after the first coat dries in step 4 should help to a large extent.

7) Dont forget to order some 12 S 5000 mah lipos, a 400 watts charges comes in handy too!

Sorry I dont own a AXN Floater yet. I tot I will suggest something useful.  Grin

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All I can smell is jealousy Cheesy Cheesy !! even after you know I would definitely let you hands on the plane once I maiden it.

I still need loads of Sim practice esp when I am more 'Aileron' guy which AXN Floater is not much good with ...
I guess you long forgotten your shaky-rickety fingers during your early Heli days (which was not long ago!)
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« Reply #53 on: June 24, 2010, 04:19:59 PM »
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I still need loads of Sim practice esp when I am more 'Aileron' guy which AXN Floater is not much good with ...


Tried my hand at an Easy Glider Pro, a few weeks ago. They turn MUCH better with rudder than with ailerons. So, Ujjwanna, set your rudder to CH 1 and fly much the way you are used to! Only thing is that you may (I did) find the plane a bit unresposive as compared to "regular" ones. That's what some people like and I don't !!!
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« Reply #54 on: June 24, 2010, 05:27:39 PM »
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I would expect the AXN to have more aileron authority than rudder.  I am no sure what prompted the concern about AXN not having enough aileron control Huh?
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« Reply #55 on: June 24, 2010, 06:52:44 PM »
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True, The length of the AXN ailerons are a lot of surface area, compared to the rudder. In any ways, ujjwal you should be able to handle any planes at the other end of the TX. AXn should be a childs play unless you are comfortable nose in gliding which Iam pretty sure you are already good at.

Ya, I remember the shaky thumbs, and I used to give back the TX to Rajesh to land my heli back.  Giggle
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Today I ordered AXN floater from hobbycity. I am very excited as this will be my first electric plane.  Drool Drool Drool
As I am totaly new to electric planes I have few doubts. I think those who have bought this plane earlier can solve these.
So plz help me out.

How is 20A ESC pre installed with this plane...? Should I use it or I need to buy another one with higher current rating...? Does ESC come pre programed or you need to program it manually?
Hobbyking site says that it requires 2-3S 1300mAh battery. So which one should I buy 2s or 3s? does it have sufficient space for battery so that I can use more mAh rated battery to increase flight time...?

Is there anything else I should know/have before flying this plane...?
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« Reply #57 on: August 11, 2010, 10:38:50 PM »
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Hi Spitfire,

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How is 20A ESC pre installed with this plane...? Should I use it or I need to buy another one with higher current rating...?
Answer: Not that bad, mine burnt off, when i used 25c 2200 mah battery.. reasonable , but anyhow i got a 20A ESC from LHS.

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Does ESC come pre programed or you need to program it manually?
Answer: Comes Pre programed..we need not do  anything.

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Hobbyking site says that it requires 2-3S 1300mAh battery. So which one should I buy 2s or 3s?
Answer: I had 3s 1800 mah  20C battery.

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does it have sufficient space for battery so that I can use more mAh rated battery to increase flight time...?
Answer: Yes, it has sufficient space for battery upto 2200mah

My Learnings:
There are websites, that tell you how to add additional strength to this plane..i'll try get that link.
1) Provide extra strength to the Front nose of the plane, bottom belly of the fuselage with Carbon rods.
2) Cover the wings and Fuselage with tape , because the plane is going to land in its belly..

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« Reply #58 on: August 11, 2010, 10:53:35 PM »
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Mr.Ramkumar, Thanks a lot for your reply.
So I am going to buy 3S 2200 mAh lipo battery and few carbon rods, will it be ok..?

Answer: Not that bad, mine burnt off, when i used 25c 2200 mah battery.. reasonable , but anyhow i got a 20A ESC from LHS.

Can more C rating of lipo burn ESC..?
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Can more C rating of lipo burn ESC..?


Only if the ESC is the weakest link. That is your motor is gulping X Amps, which your LiPO 'C' can provide, but the ESC max AMp is less than X.
Its good to perform static test  with Watt meter.
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« Reply #60 on: September 11, 2010, 05:01:11 PM »
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hai im plangg to buy axn clous fly!! Smiley
congrats fr ur purchase!! Clap
cn u plss assit me wth the price details and shipping costs nd procedures of shipping it to india Huh?
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« Reply #61 on: September 23, 2010, 02:27:11 PM »
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Got my AXN floater jet last week and had its maiden last weekend.  Grin
It is really awesome plane with excellent gliding capabilities, thus very good for beginner.
Here is the video of it's first flight.

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« Reply #62 on: September 23, 2010, 02:34:36 PM »
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Hi Spitfire,
Nice to see your birdie flying perfectly, and i hope you know the seriousness of this hobby too.
if you want this hobby to be enjoyed,,never ever allow kids to run with the plane or play in the flying area. i know stopping kids to play is not something good, but try to fly in open location as speed and prop may harm anybody. I hope you understand!
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« Reply #63 on: September 23, 2010, 02:44:10 PM »
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You are absolutely right. I will take care of that...!
btw what happened here was....there were no kids few minutes before at that place and as I was busy in assembling so I didnt noticed them and as plane took off they suddenly started running behind it.
surely I will keep this thing in mind. and thanks for ur guidance..!
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« Reply #64 on: September 23, 2010, 05:46:47 PM »
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Sandeep's advice is one of the paramount safety measure one should take even with Electric powered planes. Go as early as possible to fly when chances of these kids playing there are very thin. Abandon flying as the kids turn up.

The Indian RC community would be horrified to see a fellow flyer on the TV in any unfortunate eventuality.

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« Reply #65 on: October 03, 2010, 01:35:07 PM »
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I too burnt my ESC (Turnigy AE-20A), which comes with AXN floater, while testing with battery Turnigy 2200mAh 3s 20C. But, many peoples said that they have used 2200mah battery without any issues (Reviews written down this page : http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8359)! I tested few times upto 30% of throttle, it was ok. But when I raised throttle upto 50% suddently motor stopped! Immediately disconnected battery and checked ESC, it was little warm. Tried again, I could see small fumes from ESC also small 'tick' sound from ESC, hope some SMD component gone!

My bad luck!!  Bang Head

But curious to know where am I wrong? or can we blame ESC? some links from google search saying that "garbage ESC" (type 'AXN floater AE 20A Turnigy' in google)  Head Scratching

can I use (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9299) TowerPro 40A ESC?

waiting for valuable suggestions

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« Reply #66 on: October 03, 2010, 01:57:51 PM »
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I have used 3s 2200 mAh battery with that ESC and had no problem just that ESC was getting little hot. I never used throttle more than 50% as this plane doesnt require it. But when I found that many people have burnt there ESC with 2200mAh battery I am now using Mystery 30A http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9483
Mystery is doing very well as it hardly get hot after flight.
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But curious to know where am I wrong? or can we blame ESC? some links from google search saying that "garbage ESC" (type 'AXN floater AE 20A Turnigy' in google)  Head Scratching

When I did static test of 2100 kv motor with 5x5 prop they have provided with plane using Mystery 30A ESC and 3s 2200mAh battery, I found that it was showing current around 21A at full throttle while with 3s 1300mAh it was showing current around 19A.
So ESC is not that crap but it is not according to requirement when you use 2200mAH. I still use this ESC with motor having less current demand and it works well.

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« Reply #68 on: October 03, 2010, 02:52:32 PM »
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If you fly the AXN Floater in significant winds, which means that you will fly at high throttle against the wind for long durations (100s of seconds), we have seen that the ESC gets too hot, either beginning to cut out, or the shrink wrap on it getting damaged.  We have had two cases where we had to reseat the heat sink and shrink-wrap it again.

They did seem to work even after all this, and putting the ESC outside the fuse seems to help.  Of course, just going to the 30A one seems to be a one stop solution.
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« Reply #69 on: October 03, 2010, 03:59:03 PM »
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hiiiii everyone:)
i hav orderd my axn floater jet a week ago n hobby king:) hope i get my hands on it wthin a weekk!!
cn anyne suggest me the battery and esc wth i shld go for?Huh??
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Vasanth,
people suggest Zippy FlighMax/Turnigy  3S/2200mAh, 20C for the plane for right CG. Smaller batteries would end up with plane being Tail heavy.

Many people on forums have suggested to remove the Stock 20A ESC and replace with a 25/30 Amp one.
Rest all stock works great.
Do cut all the control surfaces off the Foam hinges and re-hinge with Scotch Tape. Else the Servos may get fried due to the binding.   
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Do cut all the control surfaces off the Foam hinges and re-hinge with Scotch Tape. Else the Servos may get fried due to the binding.   
Could you please explain little more about re-hinge? When I tested the Rudder and Elevator, I feel its moving nicely. But I noticed that elevator servo some times producing "tic tic tic" sound, if I move it fully. Is this because of improper setting / hinging issue?

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ujjwaana ,
thnks a lott  Smiley
and i too hav the same doubt abt re-hinge Huh? is it not safe to fly wth the orginal hinge setup???(since mny didnt complain abt the hinge setup n axn floater!!),
thnkng you.........
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You simply cut the control surfaces with a Sharp Xacto blade from the Wing/Tail/Fin at the point where they are attached with the thin Foam layer, acting like Hinge.

Then use Good quality Clear Duct/Scotch tape (3M brand) and Hinge them. Here is the video of general steps in Hining Foamies Control surfaces with tape:
I would share photos of the Tail hinge job I have done when I get back from office.






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« Reply #74 on: October 04, 2010, 08:54:50 PM »
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ujjwana,
thks a lot fr the video ,it ws realy helpfull Smiley
will upload my pics asoon as my axn arrives Smiley
thnkng you
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