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RC Models => Electric Planes => Topic started by: anwar on December 24, 2009, 09:36:24 PM



Title: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on December 24, 2009, 09:36:24 PM
[Admin Note] The Sky Surfer may be a better alternative to this.

Opened up the AXN Floater ordered from Hobby City by my brother.

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8359

To my surprise, on the wings and the assembly manual all referred to a "Clouds Fly" instead (it looks exactly like the pictures of the AXN Floater).  Guess they are the same thing.

The packing was very good, the inner box itself had lots of plastic air bubble thingys (both the small and large air sacks).

It came receiver ready, with a 1300mah to 1500mah lipo as the recommended battery. Even the foam glue to be used is included.  Servos are pre-installed, only a bit of assembly is needed on the tail, and the wings.  A big hollow CF rod is supplied, with an appropriate cut in the wings, with a flap to cover it ! 

A 20amps ESC (brand AOXAN) is supplied, with a brushless motor and two props.  The control rods are already routed though the fuse.

And the part I liked really was the the canopy had a magnetic latch  :-*

Now if this can glide to a safe landing  when power is cut during upright forward flight, then I would have found the perfect (or one of the perfect) starter electric gliders.

Will report after test flights (pending my brother getting involved, as he wants to do it himself).  If this works great, I would recommend the local hobby stores try to carry it.



Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on December 24, 2009, 09:38:12 PM
Forgot to mention that this is a full 4 channel plane with ailerons too. 

A good landing gear mod, and life should be good. 

The HC forums have people reporting that it can glide/float under no power, looking forward to that !


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: atul_pg on December 25, 2009, 10:56:36 AM
Superb, Definately a nice option for beginners. It's Cheap and an arf, but again customs a big problemo...

Anybody in india has imported them ? Mr.Sai you plan to import this ?

A Flight video, i already love this..Anwar can you please post a video of your flight, if possible..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFQovd--jQo


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on December 25, 2009, 12:57:33 PM
Actually customs should be not be as difficult as importing radio gear.

Yes, will get a flight video when my brother flies it (could be next Friday).


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: rcforall on December 25, 2009, 01:38:32 PM
I just converted my multiplex easy Glider Pro  to a pusher  so as to make it a floater and suitable for FPV and UAV applications .
Will  have a separate thread on this soon  as I shot a Video and some pics of it today  ;D.

It is like a Big size easy star.

Sai

PS the problem for such products individually is not so much the customs as the freight cost


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on December 25, 2009, 07:21:18 PM
PS the problem for such products individually is not so much the customs as the freight cost

Freight cost from supplier to you, or from you to end users ? 

If you do bulk orders with surface transport (ships!), it should be reasonable for the first part, right ?


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: rcforall on December 25, 2009, 07:25:21 PM
Yes but the issue is the  volume in India  does not justify a  large qty of a single product   and I have asked AXN earlier but they don't reply  and they don't have  to many other products as well. so it ness. has to be air frt . it is  a catch 22 situation.
Sai


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on December 25, 2009, 11:30:30 PM
What is considered large quantity ?  Of course you may choose to not respond, if it is considered business confidential information.

If this aircraft flies as good as the initial looks seem, and can handle a decent amount of abuse; then a quantity like 50 seems sales worthy in a few months.  You would need to get the word out a bit more though.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on December 25, 2009, 11:55:07 PM
Found that this uses Elapor foam, which is another advantage (handles crashes better, and can be fixed easily after crashes).

http://www.rc-model.cn/802.htm


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ramjin82 on January 01, 2010, 08:55:40 AM
Hi anwar,

I have few questions on setting up this plane for a first flight.

1) How did you fix the wings ? Did you use the glue to fix it to the fuselage. or was it just pushed in to place and flown.

2) What are the most vulnerable points on this plane , that may get damaged when hard landing? I may use packing tape and carbon fibre rod to strengthen those points.

Regards,

Ram G


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on January 01, 2010, 12:27:36 PM
My brother and I flew this a few times for the first time today.  It was a very windy day, with 10 to 17knots wind, yet, we were able to fly it with some effort.  Due to the wind, I was not able to completely test the floating abilities, but it seems to do fine at zero throttle along with the wind (not into the wind).  Have to do more testing later.

To answer your numbered questions :

1.  It was pushed in place with the CF rod inside and flown.  The wing was removed after flying. 

2.  We didn't see any yet, in spite of couple of nose in crashes into sand.  Not sure how it would have worked out on hard ground, but being elapor, that should not be a big concern.

Overall, it seems to be one of the best $60 (plus about $35 shipping) ever spent on RC, according to my brother and others at the field.

I will post some more details in the "weekly RC activity" long thread.

[Update] http://www.rcindia.org/chatter-zone/what-rc-activity-did-you-do-this-week/msg10993/#msg10993


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on January 01, 2010, 02:50:46 PM
One thing I felt longing for is a bigger/better aileron control. Not at issue at all for normal flying, but I did feel that more aileron control would have helped in some of the "recovery" scenarios.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ramjin82 on January 02, 2010, 09:32:45 AM
Hi Team  ;D,

We had the First Test Flight today , in our backyard. Also this was my first , first RC Flying after the Simulator training for around 3 months. The plane was great and flew well, but due to heavy high speed wind, it was bit difficult to control at low altitude. i have posted my videos in you tube for you to see.. I am Happy. will post about few issues in the plane ,latter.   ;D



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAu7gU-5Q5o


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on January 02, 2010, 09:36:19 AM
1) Is that an AXN Floater ?

2) The very first flight with a camera on-board ? :o

Good flight and great location, BTW  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ramjin82 on January 02, 2010, 09:55:46 AM
Hi anwar,

1) Yes that was axn floater jet.

2) we had onboard pencam on my first flight !! (:|~


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: atul_pg on January 02, 2010, 10:02:16 AM
Hi Ramjin,

Dude congrats that was a great first flight.. One more thing dude you are hooked to rc  ;D Welcome between us rc freaks.. :giggle:

In btwn can anyone import this axn for me ? I dont want to risk the custom craziness..

cheers

atul g.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on January 02, 2010, 10:04:03 AM
1) Yes that was axn floater jet.

Can you share with us your experience of procuring the same ? Did you order it directly from outside India, or did someone get it for you ? What was the customs experience like, if you ordered it online ?


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on January 02, 2010, 10:14:36 AM
And looking forward to your comments about "building" it also.  Did you glue the wings permanently ?


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: atul_pg on January 02, 2010, 11:12:13 AM
I had messaged ram about axn floater and did he pay any customs and all that. I believe he said a friend of his got it frm hongkong and he didnt have to pay for any customs.

I think this axn floater is a very nice deal since its an arf and is a very nice competitor to the easy star..They are in stock at the moment in hobbycity..selling like vada pav  :giggle:



Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: rcforall on January 02, 2010, 11:20:48 AM
Congrats Ram , I hope tuning the Tx was not much of an Issue.

Sai


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ramjin82 on January 02, 2010, 02:36:45 PM
Quote
Can you share with us your experience of procuring the same ? Did you order it directly from outside India, or did someone get it for you ? What was the customs experience like, if you ordered it online ?

Lucky that a friend of me, offered to carry it all way from HK to India. I ordered the items in two sets via the website. One set for Tx ,Rx, Batteries and Charger and the other one for the plane. My friend came through green channal, they did ask him what it was and he let them know that it was toy. They left him through.

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And looking forward to your comments about "building" it also.  Did you glue the wings permanently ?
I did not Glue the wings !! ;), because you did not !. So after reading your post, left it as such in its place. But realised that the wing moved out a bit after few flights. So used a colourless packing tape to keep the wings in place.

I am just a starter, do not know much about building RC plane stuff, But added reinforcement to the plane with carbon tubes.  Bought 2 carbon rods, one is a flat one. Place the flat one underneath the leading edge of the wings.

And placed a pair of  carbon rod pieces of 15cm beneath the fuselage, so strong the crash was, the structure did not get damaged.  In the front of the plane fuselage beneath the battery, i placed the flat carbon pieces.

At last  i cut few of the bubble papers that came with the packing and placed them underneath the fuselage, in the front and at the underneath the wing ends which touch the ground hard.

Quote
Congrats Ram , I hope tuning the Tx was not much of an Issue.
Thank you Sai,  I had lost the default settings in the transmitter and copied a setting file from a forum website.
I am still yet to learn the details of Sub Trim and that too setting sub trim via a program.  It looks like maths..and i hate maths.    :'(

Anyhow for flying i make sure the control surfaces are level and still learning to fly in the winds..  i have never considered Winds , while practicing in my simulator. I thought it would not be a matter of concern. I had around 10 flights today. And the last 2 flights were frightening, once it got struck to a teak tree, some 15 metres above the ground and the other time, had harrowing experience trying to land the plane. Now i realize , how important it is to land and to take off.

The aircraft withstood all the hard landings and crashes. and i even switched of the motor and glided down during the wind.  :giggle:

Regards,
Ramkumar G



Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on January 02, 2010, 03:44:58 PM
I did not Glue the wings !! ;), because you did not !. So after reading your post, left it as such in its place. But realised that the wing moved out a bit after few flights. So used a colourless packing tape to keep the wings in place.

I am just a starter, do not know much about building RC plane stuff, But added reinforcement to the plane with carbon tubes.  Bought 2 carbon rods, one is a flat one. Place the flat one underneath the leading edge of the wings.

We did not fly a whole lot of times, but even with couple of "incidents", the wing held its place.  We don't see the need for making a permanent joint (or even a joint using rubber bands) any time soon.

Also, I was wondering why you needed to reinforce the wing, when there is already a big carbon rod provided with the kit for the same purpose.

One thing about this plane is that even if the airframe is ignored, the electronics itself is a good asset.  And since each aileron is driven by a separate servo, you end up with 4 servos, instead of the usual 3 (or even 2).


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: atul_pg on January 02, 2010, 04:01:27 PM
I have put a duct tape to the bottom of the fuselage so that whenever you land the plane you don't take out the epp foam..The duct tape is quite strong and will also prevent breaking of the fuselage.



Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on January 06, 2010, 01:32:51 PM
Here is a video.  The description says 25kph winds, may be it was not that high (at least not all the time, except for periodic gusts), but a very very windy day for sure, that we were able to hover the AXN floater with zero throttle for long long periods !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXXXCKo8_sE

Watch the last 30 seconds !


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: jerry on January 06, 2010, 11:37:52 PM
 Try not to use the glue it came with. I always had bad results with the glue they send. And also,it is usually a slow curing glue. Just a suggestion


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on January 09, 2010, 08:33:38 AM
Same video with higher quality with no music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUdW8MRxXWY


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ramjin82 on January 16, 2010, 01:07:27 PM
Hi Guys,

Need Your Suggestion on correct ESC as it was Burnt:

I had been flying with 1800 mah battery in this AXN FLoater Jet plane without any issues. But i tried yesterday with the 2200 mah battery, at half throttle it looked okay, but  with full throttle , smoke started and ESC was burnt with all the ic s on the esc board melted.   :( However we crash landed the plane with out any issues and got the battery disconnected immediatly.   :-[

I believe the problem was 2200 mah battery whereas the esc was 18 or 20 amp rating. i am learning flying the hard way. Now scouting for a good esc with 30 amp rating.

Please share your suggestions on the ESC selection as well as How to Program it, what is the importance of Throttle cut, low voltage cut off  ...programming ESC boards with just sounds. ( I really struggle when it comes to hearing those strange morse kind of sounds).

Regards,
Ram G


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: Rao on January 16, 2010, 04:11:07 PM
Technically using a 2200 mah battery in place of a 1800 mah battery should not cause any such thing.Since the voltage is same and only the mah capacity of the battery should only result in increased flight time. :headscratch:


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on January 16, 2010, 04:17:55 PM
Hmmm, unless the 2200mah one is significantly heavier, this should not be happening. 

But then, with such low end combos, not sure what exactly was intended in the first place in terms of continuous full throttle usage.  It is possible that such usage was not supported at all, and somewhere in the documentation (or not!) it would be mentioned that the ESC only supports max current for 5 or 10 seconds.

Normally, you do not have to program the ESCs, and defaults work well enough.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: vinay on January 16, 2010, 04:41:14 PM
Unless you put a 4S 2200 ;D. I think the HobbyKing supersimple 25 amps should do. But if you want a better quality go for turnigy plush series 25/30amps or the turnigy sentry series if you want to save the battery as well from overdischarging.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: rcforall on January 16, 2010, 06:10:45 PM
Ram ,
I don' think changing just the ESC to a higher rating will do .
For some reason your power system has drawn more amps than it is intended to .
Changing to higher ESC  will ensure ESC  does not  burn due to higher amps draw  so possibly then the next weak spot will burn that in all probability will be the Motor  since the battery can deliver  the required current  .
Check if the motor is having some sort  of resistance to movement or is it free when you rotate by hand .

I personally don't think   the source of the problem lies in the ESC  check the entire system out .

Sai


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ramjin82 on January 16, 2010, 09:47:05 PM
Thank you mates,

The 2200 mah battery was definitely heavier than the 1800 mah battery.  The plane was struggling to move forward in the wind  :(,( we could not fly that fast , as it was on the first day ). That is when my brother pulled the Full throttle well like for 30 seconds may be..when it happened.. I am sure the plane was struggling to carry the weight.[ we had a themocole protected pen cam, then carbon rodes, as well as lot of bubble covers. [may be this is what they call as heavy ??] :headscratch:..  Well i will get a 30 amp Esc from chennai to fix and fly this next weekend. ;)


Regards,
Ramkumar G


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on January 16, 2010, 10:59:58 PM
Take this as a lesson in not overloading the plane, and on better throttle control. 

Many ESCs very clearly say that "average" load is X amps and "peak" amps support is Y amps for N seconds.  Keep this fact also in mind while you are flying.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: Rao on January 17, 2010, 01:56:01 AM
This also shows why a wattmeter is a must have instrument for electric flyers. With a wattmeter one could measure how much current is drawn by the motor at various throttle points and also helps select the correct propeller.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: vinay on January 17, 2010, 10:05:48 AM
Take this as a lesson in not overloading the plane, and on better throttle control. 

Many ESCs very clearly say that "average" load is X amps and "peak" amps support is Y amps for N seconds.  Keep this fact also in mind while you are flying.

Not only this, It is always advisable to have a motor/ESC combination that would never get burnt even in full throttle all the time for the selected/used prop. This eliminates all the damages of a crash/burning things up. I don't think the weight would go up by a lot by selecting a slightly Higher powered ESC/motor for the given prop. :thumbsup:


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: vinay on January 17, 2010, 10:10:13 AM
This also shows why a wattmeter is a must have instrument for electric flyers. With a wattmeter one could measure how much current is drawn by the motor at various throttle points and also helps select the correct propeller.

This is the first thing I ordered in my life. Very very useful. I visit Hk see the user reviews for a particular motor I brought. After seeing the reviews, I would have a fair Idea on how many watts/amps I can take this motor to. Apart from that, I aways give full throttle for few seconds, stop and check the motor temperature, then increase the throttle duration for few more seconds and repeat the check.... and so on.... till I am confident what prop this motor can take easily.

Note that crashing a plane is more expensive than spending a little more on a better/Slightly bigger motor/ESC.

Hope this helps.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on January 25, 2010, 11:31:14 AM
A similar model.  This is really "torture" testing !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH85TNw8F20


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ramjin82 on January 25, 2010, 07:14:09 PM
Hi Team,

Is it possible to have "ELEVON Mixing" on this type of Plane. i have a the left aileron and right aileron with "Y" connector , plugged to channel 1[ Mode 2].  When i tried to set the elevon mix, it would not work, and the servos are always in the opposite direction. 

I was just trying to have an increased control for my "Elevators".

regards,
Ramkumar G


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on January 26, 2010, 12:09:30 AM
This kind of mixing requires each servo to be independently controlled, so a Y cable setup will not work.  If your receiver has more than 4 channels you can try this, although I am not sure what the effect would be when you do elevon mixing of ailerons on a plane that has a separate elevator already  :headscratch: 

I am sure the experimentation would be quite interesting, so please do report after you have tested it out.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on January 26, 2010, 12:12:15 AM
Also, have you tried the simpler solution of moving to linkage rod to the farthest hole on the servo arm and closest hold on the elevator side ?  This should give you the maximum possible elevator throw with the existing setup.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on February 08, 2010, 03:47:40 PM
Try not to use the glue it came with. I always had bad results with the glue they send. And also,it is usually a slow curing glue. Just a suggestion

Our experience is that if we let the glue stand and cure (we did it overnight), then it works very well.  I got another AXN for a friend, and used the same glue.  Even after nose in crashes, everything is working very well.  Just wanted to let people know before they tried to kill themselves looking for alternate glues.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on February 22, 2010, 03:58:08 PM
As reported earlier here, the wings do tend to get loose over time. 

So we will be using Duct tape (or Duck tape http://www.octanecreative.com/ducttape/duckvsduct.html !) from one wing to the other (two strips, on top and the bottom) to hold them in place permanently. That way, if we need to remove the wings for anything, we can just cut the tape open.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: vinay on February 22, 2010, 04:38:19 PM
What the HECK? :D
http://images.google.co.in/images?rlz=1C1GGLS_enIN291IN305&sourceid=chrome&q=duct%20tape&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi

http://images.google.co.in/images?um=1&hl=en&rlz=1C1GGLS_enIN291IN305&tbs=isch:1&q=duct+tape&sa=N&start=21&ndsp=21

http://images.google.co.in/images?um=1&hl=en&rlz=1C1GGLS_enIN291IN305&tbs=isch:1&q=duct+tape&sa=N&start=42&ndsp=21



Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: gauravag on February 23, 2010, 10:37:32 AM
lol. Duct tape indeeed has a variety of usage worldwide !


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on March 17, 2010, 01:27:04 PM
My brother's 10 year old son flew perfect circuits the first time around on this plane (his second every flight).

On the other hand, it looks like the ESC is just barely enough, as we had a case where a friend flying it in high winds at high throttle for many minutes together resulting in the ESC cutting out.  On no/low wind days, absolutely no problem with good throttle management.  We are upgrading the ESC on one of them at the field to a 30A one.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ujjwaana on June 23, 2010, 07:47:47 PM
I received my copy of AXN yesterday after a long wait of a month.

Observations
1. This is among the best VFM (value for money) products from HK. $ 90 shipped to India with almost everything! Nicely packed but the bubble wrap inside had lots of dust as if the model was on display wrapped inside bubble wrap!!
2. Static test with stock 5x5 Prop and the 2200kv BL, 3S/1050mAh/40C Rhino - 150Watt/15Amp. Motor - Cool, ESC - Warm.
3. I heard some whinny noise on full throttle so slowed down. Later while packing back, I found that one of the BL magnet came Loose (HK is consistent with loose magnets on this BL!).
4. The Servos linkage on the Wing is not 'straight' the rods where bending. Much of this bend is attributed to annoyingly stiff Ailerons.
5. The Rudder Servo 'Rises' - both the Elevator/Rudder servos need gluing.
6. Despite nice packing, there were few 'Dimples' on the wing/fuse (2-3). Nothing serious
7. The ESC look cute with see thru wrap and decent heat sink.
8. Any having some alternative Decal design which I can get cut at Auto sticker guys ?

Now Questions
1. WHERE the HELL to find SIM for AXN ? None of the G4.5/XTR 5 model are talked about even on RC group!
2. What to use to glue the motor magnets ? 5min Epoxy/Slow cure Epoxy/LockTite/CA ?
3. Would like to replace the ESC. What ESC people have changed to ? 25A/30A ?
4. Would be Re-Hinging all the control Surfaces. What to use ? Tape , Pin hinges ? I have lots of hinges with me. Some suggestion what kind hinge be good for AXN.
5. Servos look real cheap. Is there a point in changing them with HXT 9g?
6. What about Reinforcement with Fiber tape all over the leading edges and belly ? Also a 3x2mm CF tube on the Elevators ?

Waiting for reply from existing AXN owners!


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on June 23, 2010, 08:37:09 PM
2.  I think most people have been using CA.
3.  Fly it stock, and change it if you feel the need.
4.  Again, fly it for a few times, and then re-hinge. Use whatever you feel like, pretty much any of those should work.  I would avoid cutting or inserting pins into the foam.  Remember that you don't have to "pin" the "pin hinges", you can secure them with a small quantity of the right type of glue (I use epoxy anywhere and everywhere!).
5.  The servos seem to work fine. Again, don't change unless you feel the need.  I did pour in some of the glue that came with the AXN into the sides of the servos.
6.  Duck tape (the one that usually comes in dark gray color) seemed to work better than fibre tape on this material.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: RotorZone on June 24, 2010, 11:20:29 AM
2. Metal to metal bond strength for the common CA we use is very low. There are CA that is made for metal application, but they are expensive. At those prices you might as well buy the loctite that is meant for these type of applications. I used green loctite (can't remember the number now) in my DIY brushless motor days and it worked out great. There is way more than what I'd use in a bottle, you are welcome to borrow if you need. Hope it is not past expiry date.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: sushil_anand on June 24, 2010, 12:26:17 PM
Good old epoxy works very well. Particularly, Araldite KLEAR.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: vinay on June 24, 2010, 12:29:31 PM

Now Questions
1. WHERE the HELL to find SIM for AXN ? None of the G4.5/XTR 5 model are talked about even on RC group!
2. What to use to glue the motor magnets ? 5min Epoxy/Slow cure Epoxy/LockTite/CA ?
3. Would like to replace the ESC. What ESC people have changed to ? 25A/30A ?
4. Would be Re-Hinging all the control Surfaces. What to use ? Tape , Pin hinges ? I have lots of hinges with me. Some suggestion what kind hinge be good for AXN.
5. Servos look real cheap. Is there a point in changing them with HXT 9g?
6. What about Reinforcement with Fiber tape all over the leading edges and belly ? Also a 3x2mm CF tube on the Elevators ?

Waiting for reply from existing AXN owners!


1) You dont need a sim to practice such a difficult to fly plane. You need to have a license and 1000 hrs of experience from a commercial airliner to fly this.

2) Candle wax hold excellently. Better you know how an inland letter is struck?  ;)

3) There is a 12S 100  A ESC at hobby city should handle the load.
 YOu need a motor as well. The 130 KV motor from HC should do.  suggestd prop - 27 X 14

4) Ya, use the Tape that you got from RCD and put 3 layers of it. Better dip the whole plane in Epoxy.
5) Use some good futaba digital metal gear BL servos that can handle 20 to 30 KG torque. .10sec / 60 degrees.
6) Re Dipping the plane in Expoxy after the first coat dries in step 4 should help to a large extent.

7) Dont forget to order some 12 S 5000 mah lipos, a 400 watts charges comes in handy too!

Sorry I dont own a AXN Floater yet. I tot I will suggest something useful.  ;D


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: vinay on June 24, 2010, 12:33:16 PM
EDIT: Sorry the ESC wont hold good for that motor. Get an 150 Amps Opto and use a seperate 10 Amps BEC.

Hope this helps.  :salute:


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: sushil_anand on June 24, 2010, 01:25:16 PM
Vinay

Don't care for McDonalds but I'm lovin' it ;D ;D


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ujjwaana on June 24, 2010, 03:30:12 PM
6) Re Dipping the plane in Expoxy after the first coat dries in step 4 should help to a large extent.

7) Dont forget to order some 12 S 5000 mah lipos, a 400 watts charges comes in handy too!

Sorry I dont own a AXN Floater yet. I tot I will suggest something useful.  ;D

Vinay
All I can smell is jealousy :D :D !! even after you know I would definitely let you hands on the plane once I maiden it.

I still need loads of Sim practice esp when I am more 'Aileron' guy which AXN Floater is not much good with ...
I guess you long forgotten your shaky-rickety fingers during your early Heli days (which was not long ago!)


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: sushil_anand on June 24, 2010, 04:19:59 PM

I still need loads of Sim practice esp when I am more 'Aileron' guy which AXN Floater is not much good with ...


Tried my hand at an Easy Glider Pro, a few weeks ago. They turn MUCH better with rudder than with ailerons. So, Ujjwanna, set your rudder to CH 1 and fly much the way you are used to! Only thing is that you may (I did) find the plane a bit unresposive as compared to "regular" ones. That's what some people like and I don't !!!


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on June 24, 2010, 05:27:39 PM
I would expect the AXN to have more aileron authority than rudder.  I am no sure what prompted the concern about AXN not having enough aileron control ???


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: vinay on June 24, 2010, 06:52:44 PM
True, The length of the AXN ailerons are a lot of surface area, compared to the rudder. In any ways, ujjwal you should be able to handle any planes at the other end of the TX. AXn should be a childs play unless you are comfortable nose in gliding which Iam pretty sure you are already good at.

Ya, I remember the shaky thumbs, and I used to give back the TX to Rajesh to land my heli back.  :giggle:


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: spitfire on August 11, 2010, 09:41:44 PM
Today I ordered AXN floater from hobbycity. I am very excited as this will be my first electric plane.  (:|~ (:|~ (:|~
As I am totaly new to electric planes I have few doubts. I think those who have bought this plane earlier can solve these.
So plz help me out.

How is 20A ESC pre installed with this plane...? Should I use it or I need to buy another one with higher current rating...? Does ESC come pre programed or you need to program it manually?
Hobbyking site says that it requires 2-3S 1300mAh battery. So which one should I buy 2s or 3s? does it have sufficient space for battery so that I can use more mAh rated battery to increase flight time...?

Is there anything else I should know/have before flying this plane...?


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ramjin82 on August 11, 2010, 10:38:50 PM
Hi Spitfire,

Quote
How is 20A ESC pre installed with this plane...? Should I use it or I need to buy another one with higher current rating...?
Answer: Not that bad, mine burnt off, when i used 25c 2200 mah battery.. reasonable , but anyhow i got a 20A ESC from LHS.

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Does ESC come pre programed or you need to program it manually?
Answer: Comes Pre programed..we need not do  anything.

Quote
Hobbyking site says that it requires 2-3S 1300mAh battery. So which one should I buy 2s or 3s?
Answer: I had 3s 1800 mah  20C battery.

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does it have sufficient space for battery so that I can use more mAh rated battery to increase flight time...?
Answer: Yes, it has sufficient space for battery upto 2200mah

My Learnings:
There are websites, that tell you how to add additional strength to this plane..i'll try get that link.
1) Provide extra strength to the Front nose of the plane, bottom belly of the fuselage with Carbon rods.
2) Cover the wings and Fuselage with tape , because the plane is going to land in its belly..

Regards,
Ramkumar G


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: spitfire on August 11, 2010, 10:53:35 PM
Mr.Ramkumar, Thanks a lot for your reply.
So I am going to buy 3S 2200 mAh lipo battery and few carbon rods, will it be ok..?

Answer: Not that bad, mine burnt off, when i used 25c 2200 mah battery.. reasonable , but anyhow i got a 20A ESC from LHS.

Can more C rating of lipo burn ESC..?


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ujjwaana on August 12, 2010, 10:36:56 AM
Can more C rating of lipo burn ESC..?


Only if the ESC is the weakest link. That is your motor is gulping X Amps, which your LiPO 'C' can provide, but the ESC max AMp is less than X.
Its good to perform static test  with Watt meter.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: vasanth on September 11, 2010, 05:01:11 PM
hai im plangg to buy axn clous fly!! :)
congrats fr ur purchase!! {:)}
cn u plss assit me wth the price details and shipping costs nd procedures of shipping it to india ???


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: spitfire on September 23, 2010, 02:27:11 PM
Got my AXN floater jet last week and had its maiden last weekend.  ;D
It is really awesome plane with excellent gliding capabilities, thus very good for beginner.
Here is the video of it's first flight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuoCv_D0e0c


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: sandeepm on September 23, 2010, 02:34:36 PM
Hi Spitfire,
Nice to see your birdie flying perfectly, and i hope you know the seriousness of this hobby too.
if you want this hobby to be enjoyed,,never ever allow kids to run with the plane or play in the flying area. i know stopping kids to play is not something good, but try to fly in open location as speed and prop may harm anybody. I hope you understand!


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: spitfire on September 23, 2010, 02:44:10 PM
You are absolutely right. I will take care of that...!
btw what happened here was....there were no kids few minutes before at that place and as I was busy in assembling so I didnt noticed them and as plane took off they suddenly started running behind it.
surely I will keep this thing in mind. and thanks for ur guidance..!


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ujjwaana on September 23, 2010, 05:46:47 PM
Sandeep's advice is one of the paramount safety measure one should take even with Electric powered planes. Go as early as possible to fly when chances of these kids playing there are very thin. Abandon flying as the kids turn up.

The Indian RC community would be horrified to see a fellow flyer on the TV in any unfortunate eventuality.

Happy flying!


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: dileepbalan on October 03, 2010, 01:35:07 PM
I too burnt my ESC (Turnigy AE-20A), which comes with AXN floater, while testing with battery Turnigy 2200mAh 3s 20C. But, many peoples said that they have used 2200mah battery without any issues (Reviews written down this page : http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8359)! I tested few times upto 30% of throttle, it was ok. But when I raised throttle upto 50% suddently motor stopped! Immediately disconnected battery and checked ESC, it was little warm. Tried again, I could see small fumes from ESC also small 'tick' sound from ESC, hope some SMD component gone!

My bad luck!!  :banghead:

But curious to know where am I wrong? or can we blame ESC? some links from google search saying that "garbage ESC" (type 'AXN floater AE 20A Turnigy' in google)  :headscratch:

can I use (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9299) TowerPro 40A ESC?

waiting for valuable suggestions

Regards,
Dileep


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: spitfire on October 03, 2010, 01:57:51 PM
I have used 3s 2200 mAh battery with that ESC and had no problem just that ESC was getting little hot. I never used throttle more than 50% as this plane doesnt require it. But when I found that many people have burnt there ESC with 2200mAh battery I am now using Mystery 30A http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9483 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9483)
Mystery is doing very well as it hardly get hot after flight.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: spitfire on October 03, 2010, 02:09:17 PM
But curious to know where am I wrong? or can we blame ESC? some links from google search saying that "garbage ESC" (type 'AXN floater AE 20A Turnigy' in google)  :headscratch:

When I did static test of 2100 kv motor with 5x5 prop they have provided with plane using Mystery 30A ESC and 3s 2200mAh battery, I found that it was showing current around 21A at full throttle while with 3s 1300mAh it was showing current around 19A.
So ESC is not that crap but it is not according to requirement when you use 2200mAH. I still use this ESC with motor having less current demand and it works well.



Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on October 03, 2010, 02:52:32 PM
If you fly the AXN Floater in significant winds, which means that you will fly at high throttle against the wind for long durations (100s of seconds), we have seen that the ESC gets too hot, either beginning to cut out, or the shrink wrap on it getting damaged.  We have had two cases where we had to reseat the heat sink and shrink-wrap it again.

They did seem to work even after all this, and putting the ESC outside the fuse seems to help.  Of course, just going to the 30A one seems to be a one stop solution.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: vasanth on October 03, 2010, 03:59:03 PM
hiiiii everyone:)
i hav orderd my axn floater jet a week ago n hobby king:) hope i get my hands on it wthin a weekk!!
cn anyne suggest me the battery and esc wth i shld go for?????


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ujjwaana on October 04, 2010, 12:17:29 AM
Vasanth,
people suggest Zippy FlighMax/Turnigy  3S/2200mAh, 20C for the plane for right CG. Smaller batteries would end up with plane being Tail heavy.

Many people on forums have suggested to remove the Stock 20A ESC and replace with a 25/30 Amp one.
Rest all stock works great.
Do cut all the control surfaces off the Foam hinges and re-hinge with Scotch Tape. Else the Servos may get fried due to the binding.   


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: dileepbalan on October 04, 2010, 01:02:01 PM
Do cut all the control surfaces off the Foam hinges and re-hinge with Scotch Tape. Else the Servos may get fried due to the binding.   
Could you please explain little more about re-hinge? When I tested the Rudder and Elevator, I feel its moving nicely. But I noticed that elevator servo some times producing "tic tic tic" sound, if I move it fully. Is this because of improper setting / hinging issue?

Regards
Dileep


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: vasanth on October 04, 2010, 03:55:00 PM
ujjwaana ,
thnks a lott  :)
and i too hav the same doubt abt re-hinge ??? is it not safe to fly wth the orginal hinge setup???(since mny didnt complain abt the hinge setup n axn floater!!),
thnkng you.........


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ujjwaana on October 04, 2010, 07:04:14 PM
You simply cut the control surfaces with a Sharp Xacto blade from the Wing/Tail/Fin at the point where they are attached with the thin Foam layer, acting like Hinge.

Then use Good quality Clear Duct/Scotch tape (3M brand) and Hinge them. Here is the video of general steps in Hining Foamies Control surfaces with tape:
I would share photos of the Tail hinge job I have done when I get back from office.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_CN6xo6p1o






Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: vasanth on October 04, 2010, 08:54:50 PM
ujjwana,
thks a lot fr the video ,it ws realy helpfull :)
will upload my pics asoon as my axn arrives :)
thnkng you
-vasanth


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: dileepbalan on October 04, 2010, 10:06:28 PM
Good video, Thanks Ujjwaana  :salute:
Regards
Dileep


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: dileepbalan on October 08, 2010, 07:45:17 PM
My updates...
I have used Towerpro ESC 40A with the same motor which comes with AXN. Checked upto 50% of the throttle and it works fine. (http://www.depronrc.com/airplanes/airplane-reviews-what-others-are-saying/124-axn-floater-jet) But this ESC needs throttle to be programmed before use.

Now, bit confused to put RX, Lipo, ESC inside the AXN. Not getting any idea to manage the space. AXN users, please do post photos with canopy open to know, your space management. is it advisable to keep ESC and Lipo so close?

Regards,
Dileep


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on October 08, 2010, 07:55:24 PM
Here is an AXN from the field today with lines made using black duck tape for better visibility.  The flyer started with the AXN about 5 sessions back, and is now ready to get his first glow model !

Makes a big difference in how the model is visible from the ground while flying.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on October 09, 2010, 11:38:16 AM
Now, bit confused to put RX, Lipo, ESC inside the AXN. Not getting any idea to manage the space. AXN users, please do post photos with canopy open to know, your space management. is it advisable to keep ESC and Lipo so close?

Will try to get pictures next time...

Basically, there seems to be just enough space between the servos and a 2200mAH battery inside the AXN to keep the ESC.  Be sure to trim off the excess length of control rods (or bend them out of the way) otherwise they creep into this space.  Make sure you finish all radio programming (including setting of reversal) before you trim off the excess control rod lengths.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: dileepbalan on October 18, 2010, 08:54:04 AM
This is my issue  :banghead:. I feel bit difficult to manage this compartment area, to put RX (AR6200), ESC and 2200mah battery. Let me know your suggestions  :help:

I had a plan to cut the portions which I have marked with arrows and dotted-lines, which will give enough space to put ESC and battery together.

If I cut like this, will it affect the 'CG' of the plane?

Can I keep the battery and ESC so close? Is it good practice?

Regards,
Dileep


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ujjwaana on October 18, 2010, 09:56:55 AM
1. You have poorly secured  3.5mm connector on the motor. The Heat shrink is not shrunk and may come off.
2. Push the ESC as front as possible to provide cooling. Keep the ESC and Battery separated. They should no touch
3. You seem to plan to cut only on one side. Splice eaqual amount on both the sides for a better CG on the roll axis.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on October 18, 2010, 10:48:31 AM
a.  Yes, cut from both sides... we all have done that.

b.  The circular ducts on either side will bring air to the depressed area between the battery compartment and the two servos. If you do it right, the ESC will fit in fine in that depression (that is the original design).  Just make sure the battery does not block the ventilation, you may have to cut some of the foam to ensure this.

c.  +1 on the heat shrink. Just use the butt (not the tip) of the soldering iron to shrink it down.



Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ujjwaana on October 18, 2010, 10:57:13 AM
c.  +1 on the heat shrink. Just use the butt (not the tip) of the soldering iron to shrink it down.

I use defunct Hair dryer and get finish better than HK products (Batteries etc)...


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: dileepbalan on October 18, 2010, 11:30:35 AM
I have never used the Heat shrink tubes at all. The yellow color you are seeing is 'insulation tape', I just wrapped it with enough thickness to avoid short circuit. I need to buy the shrink tube. is it available in local shops?!

Anwar bhai and Ujjwaana, I would like to see how you have done. Pls upload photos

Yes, I will cut from both sides only. If I need to push ESC to the front, then I need to extend motor wires also, because the battery connecting cable of ESC is also very short.

Regards,
Dileep


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on October 18, 2010, 11:48:43 AM
I use defunct Hair dryer and get finish better than HK products (Batteries etc)...

Didn't know nerds cared about looks ;)

*IF* you have a hair dryer, it will work better.  Shrink tubes should be available in local electronics parts stores.  Put it on exactly like how you have put the tape on now (in terms of where it should start and end, or what lengths you should cut out and use), then shrink them.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: dileepbalan on October 23, 2010, 11:53:46 PM
As per your comments, I have used shrink tubes which I collected from Sai, Rcforall.

I didn't try to cut battery compartment, the space was enough for zippy 3S battery. But no space for ESC. I mean, I can pack both together but ESC will touch battery.

Finally, I have decided to put ESC outside! Planning to do my first flight tomorrow. Let me know your opinion

Regards,
Dileep


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: dileepbalan on October 24, 2010, 12:45:07 PM
I have done my first flight, so exited. Thank you all for helping me.  :bow: :salute:

I was able to put it on air, after sometime (around 2min) when I was trying to land on top of bushes, bit out of control because of wind, crash landed. Thanks god, nothing serious but small portion of wing chopped off.

After crash landing both, wing cameout from fuse, and one of wing's push rod and connector went off. Prop came out and strangely motor was still running. I hope 'fail safe' was not working perfectly (I turned off TX immediately after crash landing)

one more thing I felt was, AXN feels bit difficult to climb up, also when I increase throttle speed was not that much I was expected. I feel, I was not tightly connected prop to the plane (when I checked again it was bit loose connected)

Regards,
Dileep


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: Sreedhar on October 25, 2010, 11:33:19 PM
Congratulations on your first flight... {:)} {:)} crashes do happen its usual in the game so dont worry.. there is nothing we cant fix...

hmm the wings are not much injured i guess.... and you must never tturn off the transmitter untill you disconnect the battery from the rx...

Must check prop adapter indetail............ if you are using a prop saver and u feel its loose then change to a prop adapter so that you can tightly fix the prop to motor... did you check the cg??? did the motor come off???


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: dileepbalan on October 26, 2010, 08:54:44 AM
Yes, I checked the CG and With 2200mah 3S zippy Lipo + TowerPro ESC 40A configuration, the CG is spot on. Motor didn't came out. I got pushrod and Snaps from RcForall and I have put back the wing in action. I got 50MM fiber tape also from Sai, for putting it on the belly of AXN. Thanks Sai for nice suggestions.

I think we need to cover most of the parts which can damage on impact.

Regards
Dileep


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: azhaguvel on January 15, 2011, 11:06:38 AM
The ESC which came with my AXN have a problem. I am now only building it. When ever i connect the ESC with my reciever it works well for sometime after which the reciever behaves crazy moving all the servos & shuts down. First i thought the problem was with reciever. But i replaced the ESC with a spare mystery 30amp ESC(thank god i ordered one) everything is working fine.

Why is this problem?
If my ESC is defective what parts can i salvage from it?


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: azhaguvel on January 25, 2011, 11:59:03 PM
I checked the amps consumed at full throttle using turnigy amp meter. It came only to 16.8amps. At near half throttle it is only about 5 amps  :giggle:


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: allthatido on January 26, 2011, 12:04:39 AM
Atleast post some pics..i am waiting for them since ages


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ujjwaana on January 26, 2011, 12:11:57 AM
Why is this problem?
If my ESC is defective what parts can i salvage from it?

  - The BEC of ESC is not provide enough AMPs - its probably 1.5AMPs only
  - There is lots of binding in all the control surfaces due to horrible 'Foam' hinge. This puts extra load on the Servos.

I would highly recommend re-hinging of all the control surfaces with Scotch tape and some reinforcement of the the Tail plane with CF before flight. Do check the CG about the Horizontal axis of the plane (holding the Nose and Tail) any difference in weight of the wing should be fixed first.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: azhaguvel on January 26, 2011, 12:33:02 AM
Quote
  - The BEC of ESC is not provide enough AMPs - its probably 1.5AMPs only
  - There is lots of binding in all the control surfaces due to horrible 'Foam' hinge. This puts extra load on the Servos.

Yes i seriously doubt that. Cos when i tested the ESC after removing it from my AXN, the reciever is not shutting down(I tried to check it using a single servo). I have replaced the y-connector with two wires for aileron. It might be like its not able to supply the enough amps for the reciever so that its shutting down after moving all the servos crazy. Is that rgt?

Quote
I would highly recommend re-hinging of all the control surfaces with Scotch tape and some reinforcement of the the Tail plane with CF before flight. Do check the CG about the Horizontal axis of the plane (holding the Nose and Tail) any difference in weight of the wing should be fixed first.

Yes thats 100% correct. my left wing is little heavier then my right. First i thought it is for torque but my torque moves it further left so now i have to make my right more heavier to compensate for the weight & torque. A 15 cm steel scale weight at the wing tip made it even ;)(planning to keep my video tx there:P later.). I am planning to use the hinges which i have attached as pic. Can i cut out the attachments & use these hinges?


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: azhaguvel on January 26, 2011, 12:45:31 AM
As for ankur,
I haven't done anything different then the others have done here. why do you need a pic of mine :headscratch:.
I haven't made a maiden yet but the buid is complete & its lying in a thermocol box which i made for it :P.

since you have asked, here are some pics  :giggle:.

I have desoldered the Y connector & used an extra 10cm servo connector to make the wires for aileron. now i have seperate wires for both ailerons.



Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: azhaguvel on January 26, 2011, 01:03:04 AM
Also i didn't had a tool to cut the Extra control rods so i just bended it in a L shape. You can see that i have replaced my ESC with a mystery 30 amps ESC.
Also see the turnigy meter reading almost near to middle throttle it shows 5 amps(middle is 7 amp) & at the full throttle it shows almost 16 amps.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: azhaguvel on January 26, 2011, 01:06:21 AM
At this time in the night, the full throttle sounded like i am drilling somebody's home down  :giggle:. The amps measurments are taken after adding the prop.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ujjwaana on January 26, 2011, 02:38:59 AM
Nice setup. Use Tape Hinges as they are good. I can already see potential dager as on of the ESC battery lead has loos heat shrink on the XT60 side. Better you fix that.



Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: azhaguvel on January 26, 2011, 11:45:08 AM
mmm..keen observation :)... will fix that...
I dont have any fibre tapes with me(i have to get it from any LHS)...Any other tapes which will be available locally?.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCityLighter
Post by: ujjwaana on January 26, 2011, 01:13:33 PM
Just use some old hair dryer to shrink the tube. If you have one lying in house, all well, else head to nearest Salon. It would be better you spend some 200 bucks and get basic dryer.I would not recommend using Cigarette lighter/Match stick and sometime they make  the shrink brittle which may crack.

For Hinging, use good quality Clear Tape. If you can find, get the genuine 3M or Scotch brand. Its not good idea to use fiber tape as hey again put substantial binding.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on January 26, 2011, 09:46:13 PM
A local flyer did an upgrade of his AXN with the equipment listed in the Qatar forum, and it became a whole another beast !

http://rcqatar.com/rc-in-qatar/another-beginner-in-qatar/msg903/#msg903

He also had a bad crash, and a somewhat ugly ( ;) ) fix !

http://rcqatar.com/rc-in-qatar/another-beginner-in-qatar/msg895/#msg895


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: azhaguvel on February 19, 2011, 08:33:08 AM
Does anybody have the programming manual for the AOXAN ESC which comes with the AXN floater. i want to program it for hard cut-off.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on February 19, 2011, 04:50:51 PM
Looks like the programming is same as HobbyWing and Turnigy ESCs... the same programming card (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=2169) is said to be compatible.  So find the manual for any of those brands, and you should be set.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on February 19, 2011, 04:53:43 PM
Found a link too : http://www.megarc.com/images/hobbyhack/ESC_manual_en.pdf


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: divay99 on March 14, 2011, 08:26:22 AM
Good morning People ....

Need some help... bent the elevator pushrod on the AXN ... need some help as to where I can find the same / any other solution ... thanks a ton


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: rcpilotacro on March 14, 2011, 08:46:18 AM
i am sure you have tried cycle spokes ?


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: divay99 on March 14, 2011, 08:52:01 AM
Good morning Sir, cycle spokes are a bit thick while the pushrods in this plane are thin ... not sure if it would help ....


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: akky on March 14, 2011, 09:03:24 AM
divay bhaiya use 1mm  silver steel rods..these are easily available in delhi.....they can be found at any metals work shop


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: rcpilotacro on March 14, 2011, 09:23:49 AM
spokes are good i have used it all scratch build, doesn't slack, especially at extreme throw angles


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: divay99 on March 14, 2011, 09:25:39 AM
thanks akky will try the same


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ujjwaana on March 14, 2011, 01:27:24 PM
there something called as 'Spring Steel rods' sold at Spring shops in metal shop in Sadar Bazaar/Karol Bag etc are. Do a Yellow page search for shops selling Spring Steel.

I got straitened one in Bangalore last year, after exhausting them, I could only find the 'Rolled' ones, which are hard to straighted by hands. so keep away from such rods/wires  rolled in coil.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: rajathv8 on March 14, 2011, 01:27:24 PM
I use GI wire. The spokes i have are heavier.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ujjwaana on March 14, 2011, 01:31:00 PM
I use GI wire. The spokes i have are heavier.
They do work, but such wire should either have very high Tensile Strength (tends to get thicker) or much thinner ones with high spring action. You can bend GI wire with hand and they can easily get dis formed with time due loading during the 'Push' action.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: divay99 on March 21, 2011, 02:08:43 PM
Hi Guys ... a quick question :

Which motor and ESC should one use with this ( please post links if any of the LHS's have the same)

If not available with the LHS's a hobbyking link would be highly appreciated.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: spitfire on March 21, 2011, 02:19:40 PM
Hint for searching motor:
Keep Kv rating for motor 2000+ and current rating around 20 amps with 5x5 or 6x5 prop.
keep ESC accordingly.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: SunLikeStar on March 21, 2011, 03:01:34 PM
I dont have any experience with Axn Floater but I think you can use the setup i am using on my easy star.
http://www.rcindia.org/electric-planes/upgrading-brushless-motor-for-easy-star/msg47557/#msg47557
I am using this with mystery 30A ESC but only because i dont have a 20A ESC.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on March 21, 2011, 03:09:16 PM
The new AXN Floaters are coming with 25A ESC by default (at least what I saw with two people on our field recently).

Here is an upgrade suggestion that seems to work well :

http://rcqatar.com/rc-in-qatar/another-beginner-in-qatar/msg903/#msg903


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: divay99 on March 21, 2011, 05:55:48 PM
Thanks all for your suggestion, does anyone know of any LHS's stocking a motor and ESC for this model


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: SunLikeStar on March 21, 2011, 06:06:08 PM
Rcelectro has the motor Anwar suggested.
http://rcelectro.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.pbv.v5.tpl&product_id=42&category_id=2&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=2&vmcchk=1&Itemid=2


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ujjwaana on March 21, 2011, 07:16:23 PM
Thanks all for your suggestion, does anyone know of any LHS's stocking a motor and ESC for this model
Hi Divey,
I am using a Turnigy Plush 30Amp ESC with stock 2200kv Motor and 3S/2200mAh Lipo. The setup did not give me any problem for the 35+ minute flight I had with a single charge (yes, my neck started to pain, and people around lost interest out of that long flight!!)


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: divay99 on March 21, 2011, 07:24:23 PM
hahahah .... ujjwaana Sir, I by mistake burnt the stock motor, so am looking for a replacement for the same ... cant seem to figure out which one to buy....


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: Akshayb on March 21, 2011, 10:17:28 PM
Boys are we discussing, here about "AXN Floater-Jet w/ Servo, Motor, ESC (EPO) PNF" AKA "Floater-Jet EPO with Motor (ARF)", AKA "Floater-Jet EPO (ARF)" , yeah that's confusing, but true. Cloud Fly AKA AXN Floater have three variants now at HK.

1. AXN Floater-Jet w/ Servo, Motor, ESC (EPO) PNF: As the name suggests, this comes with all the electronics but battery and receiver. And is on back order from last more than one month. And one month back it was listed for three or four days.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8359

2.Floater-Jet EPO with Motor (ARF): This variant of Cloud fly is listed by HK a month back, while first variant is still on back order. Comes with Motor, all other electronics you need to buy.Priced at $39.99, :headscratch:
This model is not appearing in listing any more now.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=16568

3.Floater-Jet EPO (ARF): This is a bare bone version of Cloud Fly AKA Axn Floater, Priced $34.99
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=16569

Is this fair on HK's part to sell the striped down variant while the higher variant is on back order, Some of you can ask why it is unfair, lesser add ons lesser price, but if you buy all the electronics which comes with no.1 variant bundled, other two variants will work out more expensive for you.
Is HK is acting too smart or we are giving them chance to act smart, by not trying other options.

Think about it.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on March 22, 2011, 12:02:41 PM
It does not matter which one we are talking about... the key is that 20A ESC is not good enough for this plane, and HK seems to have realized that.  Most people have been getting option 1, with the 25A ESC, it seems to be doing OK.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: Akshayb on March 22, 2011, 12:10:14 PM
Anwar Bhai,
                If you permit me, I just wanted to bring to light to other fellow Rcer that how HK is making out of their customers.

All the Best
Akshay


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on March 22, 2011, 12:16:46 PM
No need for the "if you permit me" part... the day members feel they need to ask permission, I will not a be part of this forum ;)

I think HK is giving options to its customers.  Many people have capable ESCs (30A or better) and servos (HXT900 etc) lying around, so it wants to give the option to such folks to get only the pieces they want, instead of forcing a marginal ESC and servos on such people.  Isn't this a good thing ?


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: Akshayb on March 22, 2011, 12:57:44 PM
Anwar bhai,
                 Please  pardon me, for if I have offended in any way nor I wanted to.

Further regarding AXN Floater all bundled, I know a friend who ordered for it when it was in Back order and some days down the line HK has listed down graded model, while the Bundled version is still on Back order, so he had to cancel the order to order for a strip down version and it worked out expensive for him and so from any consumer point of view, he felt cheated.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on March 22, 2011, 01:37:22 PM
What product mixes come out during a particular period of time are usually part of a manufacturing plan, and sometimes demand for one version will be higher causing it to go out of stock.  Companies typically adjust their product mixes to handle this, but only after delivering the initial batches with the planned counts.

Backorders are filled eventually. It looks like it was a patience issue with your friend, more than HK's product mix issues :)

There are many who do not want the entire RTF product, and they would feel they are forced to buy a useless (for them!) ESC etc if HK only delivered the original product.  For them, your line of thought would feel completely hypocritical ;D It would have worked out expensive for these consumers !

PS: Why the heck am I defending HK :headscratch:  And no offense taken at all, we don't need to be this formal or uptight !


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: Akshayb on March 22, 2011, 01:50:29 PM
I think am starting to realise this fact, it might have proved expensive for him to buy a Fully bundled Plane.

I think they won't remain competitive with this model any more now, as many other Asian on-line store would be near to them in pricing.

HK's USP was fully loaded plane with competitive pricing.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: rcforall on March 22, 2011, 03:55:52 PM
RCFORALL Shikra  ;)  :headscratch:


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ujjwaana on March 22, 2011, 04:54:34 PM

Did you get the CF rod and Canopy for the same Sai ? Why dont you Ship 5-6 to Banglore to one your close 'Friends' ? people can save shipping when they pick up from there!!


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on March 22, 2011, 04:58:14 PM
Is it available ?  No update is posted here :

http://www.rcindia.org/rc-general-topics/fpv-plane/msg49109/#msg49109


Title: What Glue to use to fix EPO in AXN Floater
Post by: ujjwaana on March 22, 2011, 06:30:36 PM
After 3 beautiful flights , I finally crashed my AXN, not due to lack of flying skills, but due to lack of Sleep. Last Sunday these college kids Shadnaam and Umer asked me to come to Hoskote. Now weary of the Super Moon effect I was spooky, but somehow I stopped my 28" F-22 build 4AM in the morning  slept. Wakeup at 7, still sleepy, I quickly packed up and head to Hoskote. Wanted to start flying soon (Sharat's 60 size trainer was cooling down) so I quickly fixed the wings and took it off. 10 mins of flying, I gave the Radio to Shadnaam and then to Umer(who so kindly drove us to Hoskote, and not flying at all.. sweet of him). These kids pushed the plane to limit I already did the previous sunday, so I was confident.

I had asked Umer to climb enough so that I can recover if he looses orientation (sun was too bright at 12 noon) Suddenly, at around 200ft, the plane started to tip stall and I quickly took the Radio. But in no time, the left wing came off and the plane started a dive with only one wing!! There was hardly any controll  surface on this plane to recover and I could hardly manage to gentle the fall (from 200+ft!!).

Walking to  recover whatever was remained of the plane, I suddenly realized I did not put the CF Wing Joiner Rod AT ALL!!! which I had left at home in the AXN box I used to carry it last time!!!cursing my sleepless, I wowed not to work late night before flying.

Well the fuse has cracked at 3 places : cavity where Wing Aft inserts, place where Wing is thickest and just below elevator.

Suggest what Glue should I use on EPO ? I have Evotite Foam Safe CA I used to fix the tail during the assembly. I also have normal thick CA, and I have Long curing Araldite and 5 Minute Epoxy. I would be reinforcing the joins with CF rids and 6x1mm flat strips. So the strength of the Glue binding with EPO is very important.

I had bad experience with 5 Min epoxy building my HK Mini Swift as the epoxy did not stick to the EPO surface at all.

Just 5 mins before the crash while flying the plane, I was telling to my self "What an idiot would crash this plane, if not during a bad landing". Its a wonder how fast your thoughts become harsh reality for you.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: divay99 on March 22, 2011, 06:34:51 PM
:(


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: Akshayb on March 22, 2011, 07:24:19 PM
Hey Ujjwaana,
                    I think you should perform some pooja before flying, need help in finding a Pundit ji PM me. ;D


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: Husein on March 22, 2011, 07:25:47 PM
When is th shikra coming up? Definitely want one, an arf with motor would be hard to resist. (:|~


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: azhaguvel on April 15, 2011, 02:12:13 PM
Has anybody tried to put magnet in the wings of the AXN so that they wont come out?

There are two walls on the frame where the wing touches. I am planning to put 1 magnet on both these walls & on the wings so that they wont come out. Planning to use these

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/super-strong-rare-earth-re-magnets-20-pack-10mm-x-1mm-5962

Any suggestions?


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: foamybuilder on April 15, 2011, 02:30:07 PM
@ujjwaana, when did it crash? you again flew that after I left, i thought you were flying that little sparrow? What happened to that, did it come down the tree  :giggle:


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: allthatido on April 15, 2011, 02:30:35 PM
Hi Azhaguvel

These magnets are not strong enough. I have put 20 (5 on wing and 5 on fuse for both wings) of them on a scratch built plane and the force is still not that much. rather go for the magnets on Hk i think they are stronger than deal extreme ones.

Regards
Ankur


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ujjwaana on April 15, 2011, 05:54:17 PM
@ujjwaana, when did it crash? you again flew that after I left, i thought you were flying that little sparrow? What happened to that, did it come down the tree  :giggle:

Hey Ashok,
I repaired the plane well and flew it twice. Since then i dod not get time to fly that as I have been flying (and getting board of) Yashvardhan AXN floater to train him.

I could finally fly the little 'Sparrow'. The CG was way forward. on the 2nd flight it got stuck in on the trees and while pulling it down, I found some fissure in the motor mount area. Would repair it and bring it on Sunday.


Azhaguvel,
Use a Rubber Band or Fiber Tape to hold the Canopy. Remember HK does not sell spares for AXN (most popular!) ! Magnets are not good as loos, they would come off. Too tight and you can break it while pulling out.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: azhaguvel on April 15, 2011, 05:59:50 PM
ujjwaana, I am talking about wing holding not the canopy. After a few use the wings is slightly lose.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: rahulgaba on July 08, 2011, 12:00:22 AM
i am sure u guys have checked it out.... but there is a way to make this axn floater faster and more agile, do victoyy loops and junk. Thats by trimming out the wing tips.. Its looks pretty easy and i think it makes sense... here you go.. the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAspCsgePJ8&playnext=1&list=PL6EC7E1BBEB366F8A.. i hope this helps...


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ujjwaana on July 08, 2011, 02:01:53 AM
A Cat has 7 lives! 5 more to find!!!


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: rahulgaba on July 08, 2011, 02:06:20 AM
Use hotglue to glue those loose wings.. It's a very good fix... Cheap easy and reversible..


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anwar on July 08, 2011, 11:26:23 AM
i am sure u guys have checked it out.... but there is a way to make this axn floater faster and more agile, do victoyy loops and junk. Thats by trimming out the wing tips.. Its looks pretty easy and i think it makes sense...

Someone at our field has done this.  With the wingtips clipped and the ailerons made bigger, it is a completely different animal which can easily do loops, rolls and inverted flying (with a power system upgrade which was done earlier).

Guess it adds even more value to this type of models... they are now beginner to intermediate level models (instead of just beginner ones).


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ujjwaana on July 08, 2011, 03:59:03 PM
Its time Sai sells the Wings of his Shikhra as spare. Then one can have 2 wings set and enjoy both the flavors of this plane!


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: vineet on August 01, 2011, 02:50:54 PM
how much did it cost , do you paid any customs ???(some one told me that there will be no customs on foam)


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: divay99 on August 01, 2011, 06:54:52 PM
Delhi customs detains AXN floater ... or any other plane model.... for more info you can call me ... as the same cannot be discussed in open


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ashutoshn on August 01, 2011, 07:22:59 PM
how much did it cost , do you paid any customs ???(some one told me that there will be no customs on foam)

Did you do the calculations on
1) getting the AXN Floater from HK + customs hassles v/s
2) buying easystar from rcdhamaka or shikara from rcforall.
If not, just check out for the locally available version which can save some anxious moments ....  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: divay99 on August 01, 2011, 07:34:11 PM
If anyone needs an AXN floter or Bixler in Delhi (NCR) can feel free to call me....


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: vineet on August 01, 2011, 07:50:04 PM
If not, just check out for the locally available version which can save some anxious moments ....  :thumbsup:



yes sir i did it all this is indian seller are very high at price , the difference is you will wait less when you go for sellers in india



Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: andrew1978 on January 26, 2012, 11:19:27 PM
Russian video on the first page... i like it.... This is one more. Today`s flight in Moscow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y5cJM5PVkI&feature=player_embedded#!



Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anandp on January 27, 2012, 12:23:28 AM
@andrew1978  Nice video  {:)} and track too :)


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: karandex on May 03, 2012, 04:20:36 PM
http://beta.ivc.no/wiki/index.php/AXN_Clouds_Fly

great axn gyam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU_IEdTDOq0&feature=plcp
watch this whole series he give lots of good tips. anybody got problem with 30a esc heating?


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: karandex on May 03, 2012, 04:26:30 PM
what is the best place to get axn or its clone from. what about shirkra and easy star 2.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: agent47 on May 03, 2012, 04:28:55 PM
Search for my post I am selling mine ;-) If you are interested..


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: karandex on May 04, 2012, 03:21:45 PM
is this the best electric plane to learn on in india? it will be great if some post plane models in kit and scrach build form for trainer , sport , 3d ,glider,fpv etc


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ujjwaana on May 04, 2012, 05:18:05 PM
you dont need to take the pian of getting it from HK.
RCBazaar already sells them and a better plane call Sky Surfer

http://rcbazaar.com/products/1239-clouds-fly-axn-floater-with-motor-prop-and-esc.aspx

http://rcbazaar.com/products/1063-sky-surfer-with-motor-esc-servos.aspx



Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: karandex on May 04, 2012, 07:16:37 PM
in what way sky surfe is better. please see diydrone easy star clone compare. both are equally good.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: ashutoshn on May 04, 2012, 08:07:13 PM
I have seen a sky surfer on field and personally (still  :P) have a easy star. The sky surfer has built-in ailerons and both of them look almost identical. Personally I feel you can go in for anyone of them depending on the ease of availability. If you are planning to import a plane be ready to face the hassles of customs ... and I am not trying to scare you. It would be a wiser decision to lay your hands on an already "customs cleared" airframe.


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: karandex on May 04, 2012, 08:35:38 PM
i also dont want go customs. after learning on this plane its all scrach built and indian made kit


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: deepakvrao on May 08, 2012, 09:08:04 PM
RCBazaar already sells them and a better plane call Sky Surfer

The radios, servos and batteries all show as 'no stock'? How do you guys buy stuff from these sites? Or do you buy elsewhere?


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: karandex on May 08, 2012, 09:10:45 PM
nobody is getting it they are just suggesting me. rcbazzar is stocking up on 20-23 may.maybe lower prices.

source: helpdesk on there website


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: dileepbalan on August 03, 2013, 03:18:10 PM
I had a crash 2 weeks before. Both wings came out while flying in height. lucky, not severe damage. I was under the impression that wings I have kept perfectly & taped to fuselage with nylon tape. Unfortunately the tape was not that much sticky since i was removed twice to keep them for transporting.  :banghead:  Did the hot water treatment to get the shape back. Sticked with CA & Araldite. Bird is ready and flying well.  :)


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: dileepbalan on August 03, 2013, 03:21:06 PM
Few more pics...


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: dileepbalan on August 03, 2013, 03:24:16 PM
Finally the bird ready for next learning sessions...


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: santhosh-r on August 03, 2013, 04:13:35 PM
Dileep...super fix...:thumbsup:


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: b4ggu on October 25, 2013, 06:43:05 PM
Finally the bird ready for next learning sessions...

Nice Job Dilip...what does hot water do? Just bring the shape back or anything els too??


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: moorthy on November 29, 2013, 12:56:36 AM
Friends

Ordered for axn floater ARF version.Along with ESC 30A,HK15178 8 servos,lipo charger,some gold connector and XT60 plugs.Watched Bruce video for assembling.Used Fevitite epoxy glue.Solder the ESC and motor wire.

Have attached some pic


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: rastsaurabh on November 29, 2013, 09:20:54 AM
nice soldering job... and paint on lower wings.....


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: moorthy on December 02, 2013, 04:38:26 PM
Friends

Finished complete setup now waiting for my first flight.But past two days raining in chennai :banghead:


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: anandp on December 02, 2013, 05:25:15 PM
nice and clean build moorthy 

{:)} {:)} {:)}


Title: Re: AXN Floater / Clouds Fly from HobbyCity
Post by: moorthy on December 02, 2013, 05:53:11 PM
 :hatsoff: Thanks Anand