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Title: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: balajir on May 22, 2014, 04:10:31 PM
Hi all,
I am a beginner. I have clocked 70 hours in realflight G4.5 flight simulator using FUTABA 7C. I can even land mustang P-51 elegantly  :) in the simulator, i am mentioning this as it took quite a time to learn that. I am planing to build http://www.armadamodels.co.uk/models/ctd_electric_delta_ma01a.pdf   Ceiling tile delta (CTD). As it seems less complex to build & slow flying capability.

Following is the materials i have bought to start,
700 kv motor-reason is the CTD builder uses reduction gear box. So i bought less RPM motor
1000 mah LIPO battery
9 gm turnigy servos
5 mm biofoam sheet
8030 propeller


I have made motor mount today using aluminum L channel. Picture is enclosed in here.

Please help me in the following,
1. how to get push rods for servo to control surfaces
2. do i really need propeller saver?. if i do not fit one will me planes' nose break while landing as the propeller i bought seems stiff. Do i have to fit landing gear to solve it?.

advance thanks for your time & response.

Regards,
R.BALAJI


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: Swapnil on May 22, 2014, 04:17:47 PM
Balaji,

You'll need to cover those bullet connectors with heat shrinks for proper insulation or you might risk burning-out the setup.
Which motor and ESC are you using?

Push rods can be made using bicycle spokes, umbrella spokes, gel refills, bamboo skewers etc. There are a lot of tutorials/ videos available. Just search.

A propeller saver is not needed if you are using a good landing gear or landing on tall grass.


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: balajir on May 22, 2014, 04:24:38 PM
hi swapnil,
i am using Turnigy DST 700 brushless motor & Hobby king 30A ESC. I test ran this setup with receiver. Worked good. Even i tested whole electric setup in delta configuration using servos. it worked well.

RB


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: Swapnil on May 22, 2014, 04:48:35 PM
The DST 700 won't give you enough thrust with a 8x3 prop on a 3s LiPo. And do cover the bullet connectors properly for safety.


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: balajir on May 22, 2014, 05:02:43 PM
sure i will cover those bullet connectors with insulation tape. will 10"X3" propeller will give enough thrust?

RB


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: Swapnil on May 22, 2014, 05:08:54 PM
Insulation tape is okay but still risky. If possible, go for heat shrink.

Check the propeller thrust chart of your motor. You'll at least need a 10x4 with that setup. 


Title: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: balajir on May 25, 2014, 09:42:04 PM
Hi all,
today i made servo mounts. also i cut bio foam in delta shape. i mounted the servos in a scrap bio foam. photos of the same is attached herewith. am i adding extra weight by these mounts?. even the motor mount seams heavy which was made from 3mm thick 1.5" L aluminum channel. i hope i do not end up with a model heavy to fly.

Regards,
RB


Title: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: balajir on May 25, 2014, 09:45:11 PM
Is Araldite good for bio foam (depron)?. advice please.

Regards,
RB


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: yash10896 on May 25, 2014, 09:53:11 PM
yeah it won't eat foam and super strong :)

regards
yash


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: balajir on May 25, 2014, 09:59:37 PM
thanks


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: rastsaurabh on May 25, 2014, 10:18:38 PM
Just stick servo with hot glue .....it will be light and removal is easy.....no need of so many nuts and bolts


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: balajir on June 02, 2014, 08:15:50 PM
hi almost done building delta wing. waiting for carbon fiber rods for reinforcement from RCFORALL.

Regards,
RB


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: balajir on June 02, 2014, 08:16:55 PM
ESC is placed using double side tape  :)


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: utkarshg13 on June 02, 2014, 09:41:40 PM
@balajir: Correct me if I'm wrong. It seems you had made certain changes to the original design. There are two vertical stabs as well the design is also quite different. Any particular reason for this?
But, I'll have to say very clean and tidy job.

 :hatsoff:


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: balajir on June 02, 2014, 11:02:18 PM
thanks a lot. really i had no intention to follow the plan. all i was planning to do is to build it as light as possible & take it to field & fly it with a help of very experienced flyer :).  i am not going to fix the battery now, i hope i will get help from experienced flyer to set it up.

Regards,
RB


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: balajir on June 10, 2014, 08:20:12 PM
hi all,
finished my delta wing. ended up with 450 gm total weight. wing span is 1 m. please tell me is it too heavy to fly. going to use 8X4 propellers. only battery is to be fixed, which will be done in the field with the help of experienced flyers.

Thanks in advance. photos are attached herewith.

Regards,
R.BALAJI


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: manojswizera on June 11, 2014, 10:29:05 AM
weight is within limits. She will fly good. :thumbsup:


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: theleabres on June 11, 2014, 10:33:38 AM
it needs vertical fins on wingtips

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMdAQDaHpik#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMdAQDaHpik#ws)


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: iwincar on June 17, 2014, 03:01:14 PM
it was too heavy , the design was not conducive much seems.



Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: sanjayrai55 on August 17, 2014, 08:54:28 PM
Are you the same Balaji who phoned me last night?


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: devangflyer on August 18, 2014, 12:46:52 AM
How can he get your phone no . ? What did he ask you ?


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: sanjayrai55 on August 18, 2014, 05:51:19 AM
He was extremely polite, and was enquiring regarding flying field in Delhi.

I don't understand why you ask, or why you have these weird pictures in the reply. In any case, I fail to see what it has to do with you


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: balajir on August 18, 2014, 05:56:01 AM
yes sir, i am the balaji who called on Saturday night.

Regards,
R.BALAJI


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: sanjayrai55 on August 18, 2014, 06:13:13 AM
Balaji, give me a call on Thursday or Friday, and we will fix something.

Are you off on Saturdays?

Have you contacted flyers in Mundka field, Delhi?



Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: balajir on August 18, 2014, 07:00:23 AM
yes sir, i am free on Saturdays most of the time.


Title: Re: beginner: scratch built of ceiling tile delta
Post by: devangflyer on August 18, 2014, 09:11:30 AM
I just like to know what people like to talk about . The pictures are my custom title .