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This is one of the plans which I downloaded don't know now from where but a very good one for bulding a Mig-29 Fulcrum profile plane using 5mm Depron.

Started the build on 17 July 10 and almost completed

Due for flight testing and trimming will post vedios on successfull flight.

uploading build photographs 

Since posting a PDF plan would be a violation, posting a Photo of plan
 and some more build photos

Anyone interested in PDF Plan please PM with email Id

Dear Colonel, we missed you. welcome back. My Depron F 18 is exactly in the same state. Let's complete them both together. What is your expected date of first flight?

Regards,

VC

Thanks VC,

Mine is almost complete only trimming and adjustment for CG is left. should be able to fly this sunday

I am nowhere close Sir. Hope to fly next Sunday. Happy landings!

Specification of electronics are as follows

Receiver futaba fasst 2.4 ghz 7 channel
battery hiperion 3s 11.1 1600mah 25C
ESC 30 Amps
Motor brushless 2812/06 2200 KV 300watts
Prop 6x4 sports APC
Servos 02 Nos Hitech 9 gms
AUW 440 gms
Some more build photos

Only three channels have been used and the two servos are on elevectron Mixing.

Painted using acrylic colours and 0.3 mm spray gun.

Some more photographs

this looks great!!!!!

i am planning for Eurofighter!!!!!

Nicely built!

dear Colonel,
very nice. Wish you good success.
Can you let us know how it is painted, including, how to spray. what equipment etc. completely ignorent about this.
ashta

sir can please put some close up pics of the landing gear...and the attachments of the landing gears....my both jets without landing gears...i have never been able to perfectly make one...so please  :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help: me with the landing gear builing and its attachments and fixing

from where did u manage to get the five mm depron ?  :headscratch: :headscratch: :headscratch: :headscratch:

I had bought them from Mr Sai RCFORALLIN. I dont know wether he has them now. Please check with Mr sai on latest stock position

Thankyou Mr Astha, Krish and Ashish for your compliments.

The gear used for spray painting is a gear used for body art painting, Finger nail painting, cake painting, and of course Model painting. I had bought it from ebay international. It is available in Tower Hobbies, Hobbycity and some times back in indian ebay also. It is used with a Micro 0.3mm spray gun.

I am posting photo of the same please.

Inspiration for the emulation of colour scheme are attached as a photos

some more site address where more colour scheme are available are as under

http://www.mars.slupsk.pl/fort/mig/mig-29-ru.htm
http://www.mars.slupsk.pl/fort/mig/mig-29-ddr.htm

lease put the pics or close ups of the landing gear and its attachments..and how did u make it

Dear Akky,

Here are the pictures of the landing gear closeups. it is a very simple fixed gear with front wheel on a 2.5mm GI wire bend to a 'U' and rear wheels fixed on a carbon fibre 4mm square tube with same 2.5 mm GI wire forming the axle.

Both fixed to the model using hot glue.

 Dear Mr Astha,

ebay.in link where the airbrush compressor is available in India. This one has a air storage tank also in addition to the compressor which I have. I had bought it for about  Rs 5000/- along with airbrush from Hongkong ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.in/Air-Compressor-brush-airbrush-temporary-tattoo-oil-free-/330450162043?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item4cf05d517b

However this link does not have the airbrush attachment. it is only a compressor. Airbrush will cost Rs 2000/- more each

Sometime in 2008, I was bitten by the airbrush bug and I researched it till the cows came home and went to sleep! I have made my own compressor for the airbrush from a tyre inflater available on the net. It costs around Rs.500/- and works fine for imprecise jobs. It doesn't have a storage tank. I also bought a storage tank from a local refrigerant parts shop and added one way and two way valves. Once I got it functioning, I quickly lost interest and have stored it all away. I am shifting residence soon and can't unpack anything now, otherwise I would have posted pictures of the entire assembly. The airbrush was from Mumbai - Pilot product. I will try and provide the links.

These are the 2 airbrushes that I have:

http://www.pilotindia.com/spray_ab98.htm

his is the compressor that I used. Not precise but it works. You have to time the release button on the airbrush to get a nice smooth flow. Needs a bit of practice but can be done without spending Rs.10 K for a professional set up.

http://cgi.ebay.in/12V-Electric-Air-Compressor-Pump-Car-Bike-Tyre-Inflator-/270575669138

Second alternative is to use this: Fast, economical and zero maintenance.

http://spraypaint.in/

Nice VC

I thought Airbrush are not at all available in India. good airbrushes in the link

How did you buy from them ordered them or bought in person? and at what cost?

Apologies Colonel for hacking into this thread, please excuse my impertinence.

Another link: Check the Motorcycle paints section.

http://www.com-paint.com/viewallproducts.asp?pgtyp=viewallprod&cids=1&scids=1

Only thing to be careful here, aerosol paints contain thinner which may attack depron/bio foam. Test it on a piece of scrap first. Perhaps, if we use laminated depron/bio foam, it may not affect it. I've never tried it, though I have some cans of aerosol paint recently smuggled in from Imphal, Manipur @ Rs.90/- per can.

Sir, if my memory serves me right, I paid around 3.5 K for both the brushes. Give me moment and I will try to give you the contact person's email id.

Person concerned is Mickey@ Manek his address is mickey@pilotindia.com

You are absolutely right VC aerosol with thinner just eats away foam and deprons/bio foam. Even if there is a pin hole in the lamination it starts eating within. I had used aerosol for my thermocole glider but only after the thermocole was neatly laminated with packing tape. With aerosol paint you can generally paint surfaces but no intricate art work.

Does PilotIndia sends your order by post?

Won't destroy/hijack this thread any more. PM'ing you Sir.

Hi Everyone,

Today completed the Depron Profile Sukhoi-37 build from plan. i am uploading the photographs of the model. Painting and decals are to be done now and pending.

Specifications

Brushless 2212/6 2200 KV 300 watts, 6x4 APC sports prop, two Hitech 9 gms servos for elevon, 30 Amps ESC, 1800 Mah 2S 11.1 V Lipo, Fixed landing gears, AUW 490 gms.

Wing Span 28 Inches length 38 Inches. Some more photographs and the plan photographs

Bravo Colonel Sir! Give me 15 days and I will provide them with a partner / adversary.

Thank you VC. Looking forward to it.

great build!!!!!!

Excellent finish, I am sure they will be equally good in performance. Can you share the plan wtih us. It will be fun to have these birds in my hanger.

Thanks Majraj and AshJR,

They fly like the real bird. very agile in air.

PM me your email ID will give you the plans. Posting would be a violation of copy rights.

After initial test flights and trim the Sukhoi - 37 has been painted and decals fixed and now also ready for the flight videos,

I am posting photographs of the outcome of the paint job

Gr8 plane sir!

Wow! Fabulous Col Sir! :bow:

Dude how do you paint depron....?
request to give full details please...

Sandeep

Thanks for the compliment VC and Krish.

VC when you said 15 days you will provide them with a partner/ adversary, it was just the required motivation for me to roll out this mean looking machine. wish some day we get an opportunity to meet where we will be able to do some RC aerial combat with our F-18, SU-37 and Mig-29.

Dear Sandeep,

What I have used here is an airbrush to paint the model. The photographs has already been posted earlier in this thread. Paint used is acrylic colours which is easily available in any Stationery shop. The Depron used in the model is as such having the base colour i.e. the pinkish colour. the stripes have been painted with the airbrush using shade of maroon. The edges have been painted with the same shade of maroon. The wing tips have been shade painted with black.

The Engine, Stars, Black lines, cockpit, intake ports, other ports and big letters has been painted using a stencil cut out in a old 'X' ray film using black colour sprayed using airbrush. After having painted out line of the engine using the cut stencil, the engine has been further shaded using the airbrush.

The small lettering are printed out of a label printer and pasted as a decals.

The Flag colours and the Futaba are Decals.

My good Col. Sir,

Whether or not the Raptor crashes over the weekend, your Russian beauties have inspired me to do a thorough job on the Hornet! I certainly look forward to the day when we meet and fly the birds together. Insha Allah!

I have a LOT of catching up to do before that. :bow:

Cheers!

LOOKS GRT

Are these planes for sale?  ;D I would like to buy all of them for a good price. Need I say more about the build?  ;)

thanks,
Good work dude...really impressed about the paint work. i know the flight is as beautiful as the paint work....!!!!

Thankyou very much Vinay, Sandeep and Ashish.

Now every sunday and holiday I am enjoying flying these two fighters / birds who are a treat to fly and watch flying,
a flight video is long overdue. My 9 year old son who used to be my cameraman is now more interested in flying with me through WTR - 7 trainer and is always next me with his futaba 6EX which is sync with WTR-7.

So I am running short of a camera man. It is high time I think I should fabricate one of the HAT camera like Mr Astha.

Notwithstanding the above I have recorded a very short video of the Mig - 29 and posting it here. apologies to you all for it, I will post a longer and more pleasing video the next time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWjjjqSDobE

really tempted to make one for myself :D

dear sundaramvelar,
congrats!

does this have wheels? nice to see the take off.

ashta

Thankyou very much Mr Astha,

Both the fighters have fixed landing gears, however not steerable, does nice straight take off and landings. No wonder I choose to fly from the helipad and not from a straight tarmac surface, as even if veers of a little to the left or right there is room for some margin of error.

wow!!! it looks great and fly even great!!!! seems like it has got Thrust vectoring capability!!!!!!  :-)

Thankyou very much AshJR,

you are absolutely right it has thrust vectoring. Depron sheets forming the elevator in elevon mixing are cut in a shape that  the sheets where the engine is painted is deflecting the air draft of the propeller and giving the thrust vectoring effect.

Apart from this the aileron surface are also on elevon mixing operating parallel with elevator surface. This makes the model extremely maneuverable, and is very difficult to control. Therefore the control surfaces are on Minus 50% exponential.

Looks like a complete Squadron!! Amazing!!

Had a lot of 10mm sheets of thermocol lying at home -  left over after my tenent shipped some furniture from out station. So this is what iv used them for :

Thank you Sir for the plans and info you provided :)

Rajath, I don't want to dishearten you, but I hope that is high density thermocole. You may have to use a lot of reinforcement if it is normal thermocole.

The build is very neat. :thumbsup:

Thanks Ujjwaanna,

Absolutely marvelous build for a 10 mm EPP Rajath. Nice cuts and and the plan has been joined absolutely symetrical.

I was following this thread for quite some time and was so speechless and "typeless" ;D that I did not even post a single comment....
In one sentence "The best fleet of Mig's I have ever seen"
Amazing build, a truly professional job on them..
Keep it up!

I dont intend to fly it VC. Tenant was going to chuck the thermocol away - couldnt let it go to waste :) And i wanted a mig in my room. Well who doesnt :D

In that case - Well done Lad! You did the correct thing, I would have done the same  ;D. Now paint her and get her ready, she's a good looking bird.

Thank you VC :)

Why are we hijacking Sandy's thread? He is too much of an Officer and a Gentleman to protest, but this build should have been posted as a separate entity by itself in an independent thread. Respect for Sandy and respect for this MiG 29, and its builder,  would have been maintained in that case.

Thanks Controlflyer I was also tempted to commence build on my Predator seeing the quality of build done by you. Any way good luck with your predator and Transall. Keep us posted.

This Sunday it is heavily raining in Jhansi. So no flying however I am posting video of last Sunday flying with my son.

Thanks to Mr Astha. This video is shot with a Hat Cam similar to the modification done by Mr Astha.

Thank you for watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvjJOOAi-LQ

Thanks VC for praises far more than what I deserve.

But none of the above was any way thread hijacking.
Everyone is most welcome to contribute in any way he desires to.

col
did you maiden ? how did it go? isn't the main u/c too close to the fuse ? ;D

I have done many hours of flying now. It is flying very well both mig 29 as well as su 37. However I did not understand your question please. Could you please rephrase the question.

main wheel i thought was too close to the fuselage (For high Alpha landing) doesn't matter in a foamie i guess, any PDF plans ? was going to cut some foams

Pm sent.............

@augustinev yes high alpha landing is not possible. I can mail.you the plans

thanks col pm sent

After more than an year of flying, the last mig - 29 was nearly totaled after the high G aerobatics and kulbits by Gusty. She was still air worthy though but developed so many cracks all over decided to retire her and make a new one for gusty to try his extreme flying   :giggle: ( hope gusty you are reading this )

Planning to name her the flaming arrow.

This one is with rudder too

This was an F-22 made for shillong air show with 8mm depron and a more powerfull 2217/6 2200 KV motor

Super Stuff,  :hatsoff: That is Flaming Arrows For you, Waiting to maiden her today

http://indianairforce.nic.in/show_unit.php?ch=22
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/History/1960s/27Sqn.html
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/india/sqn-27.htm

Great build and great video sir :bow: :bow:. I am currently trying to practice flying such planes on the sim. I am very often getting lost with orientation of the plane and end up giving wrong control commands :banghead: :banghead:. How do you know of the orientation :headscratch: :headscratch:? Any tip will be very helpful :help: :help:.  

Sim time is important, easier way is imagine you are sitting in it, whomever i told this picked it up faster (Mostly to, already real life pilots so cant take it as gospel truth though)

PS
Maidened her , will be putting pup videos and reviews

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwiUrEOtPig

It is very much fun to watch and listen to video   :rofl:

btw nice flying  :thumbsup:

thats called western blend in indian style  :giggle:
+1 spitfire  :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:

Thanks Abhay and spitfire, thats sandy's baby, final conclusion is if you want to fly hard , then 8mm foam, 2217/6 motor, 5 mm develops fatigue cracks,
Here is the well laid out plan and instructions by tomhe
http://rc.tomhe.net/mig-29

Good Choice of music Gusty  :giggle:  :giggle:  :giggle:  :giggle:.

Nice flying there too gusty, trying to fly mine I missed most of your flying. Now I had the privilege of watching it thanks.

A different perspective than what was shot in my hat cam. Mine is being uploaded. will be posted shortly

That's mine from my Hat Cam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHzVdu2eUag

Please ignore the date on the video its again a date stamp error.

Thanks for watching

Nice hover by f22 there

Here is another MiG 29, two hrs effort of cutting and sticking, you can see this MiG 29 is coarse cut, painting was done by my under trainee RC Wife, maiden tomorrow

Wow.........  {:)} {:)} {:)} Amazing sir mam is giving me complex now.

The bar has been  set very high there. When it is finished with canopy and markings there will be none to beat it.

painting like this is yours and varsha dept, i can do portraits like this (In fact send me ur family pic i will pencil sketch it for you)

Mine Mig-29 done.

Next SU-37 has been inducted to Paint Shop.

Nice color schemes  :thumbsup:
What are you using for painting...airbrush?

Yes Airbrush. Thanks

super mama ready ?
1234

 :)

Only thing left is the Numbering of the Bird and the IFF circle of Indian Airforce. I was under doubt green in center or Orange later saw it in the Airforce calender you gave me  :thumbsup:

SU-37 is just out of the paint bay

Fighter Hanger getting back to shape. Many more to come

 >:D >:D

 :o :o  :o   ;D

nice build..good colour scheme {:)} {:)} :)

Oh my GOWD...great and excellent works great Veterans.. :hatsoff:its all far beyond imaginations and dreams..ohoo.. :thumbsup: :hatsoff: :salute: :salute: :salute:

i mean how you guys paint , which material of color?,  method ? , most of the color are not foam safe

artist's acrylic colour (Sandy's using the medium and my wife , H2O ;D ,) Camel's, product no 0838335

hand or spray

both, wife is quite good at it, so is sandy , he is all spray :giggle:

may i have a link if brought from hk

Thanks tejas, roopesh and vineet.

@vineet. Compressor and double action spray pen from ebay.com.

micro Spray gun  is available in india and there is the link to it in same thread. Compressor is mostly back order in HK.

Sir,micro spray gun,(art air brush) are available in our markets now..best option is from the professional pioneers , is from PILOT. it works amazingly..costs about 1200/- for set it is a best value.. :thumbsup:

The Compressor and airbrush are back in stock in HK

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9298

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=14004

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__9294__Twin_action_air_brush_set_.html

After the cruel culling of my favourite birds & fun fliers at shillong to make space, the first bird is back to life test flown trimed and ready for many hours of fun. My compressor is still at Shillong,_ so all painting with brush, has not come out bright but in dark shades of colours.

Sir, if that be true then we be damned.
If you feel the need to do so next time, please let this underling know. I will be more than happy to add them to my lonely hanger.

Pretty paint job Sandy saheb

@flying brick. After electronics, carbon spar, horns and linkages removed those birds were any way downgraded to junk was no good to any one.

thanks Sanjay sir.

Handjob is better ;) is better than the machine

Thanks gusty. :)

nice build!

edit :didn't read the full post
Sent from a potato using a lamp - now mashed

Awesome...amazing paint job Sandy sir

Thanks Aniket. Thanks Girish.  :)

Great build sir

Sir could you please mail me the tiled PDF plan of Su-37 or F-22????
Email id: piyush.liferock@gmail.com

Sir,
May I request you to post the power / servo setup used ?

Plan at www.parkjets.com under tomhe

power setup
2826 2200 kv 6x4 Prop
40 Amp ESC
2200 mah 3S Lipo
2 Servo Tail elevon mix only

Sir, plz suggest me the wheels for front and rear which u have used for ur scratch build planes and from which website i can get those???

They are just light foam wheels. 3" for back and an inch for front. Is available with both LHS RCD and  RCB. 

After missing this fun flyer for long decided to recreate the Fulcrum again.

Latest Addition to the List of Fulcrums.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MWL5wzNIuvnR4pnx8Lj9K2N74N3TOgt3yaqm3gei1KY=w483-h643-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MOfw3ycxXISEa61JQzS3iqAFVk6O7_XSaSfNDw9BIp8=w483-h643-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/FYGnBC8L87pTZrzlb7vdxtH5GLTxrcg92-fZYgQAEfU=w483-h643-no)

After occupying my hanger for a short while this model is going to grace Sorav's Hanger.

PS: Gusty the model is desperately missing you  ;D ;D

The Next one in the series is my favorite the Raptor

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/11406633_10203240964138588_4828175802713409942_o.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11391211_10203240965338618_4483500288509693263_n.jpg?oh=87e7a11582619c2e6760d53d04eca227&oe=55F0F413&__gda__=1443313918_8c060e3a9b7466e753b8e0493dd9bf05)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11250203_10203240967058661_1231064546044628781_n.jpg?oh=c06e1751cb149da84555ef6ce261a8e0&oe=56322679&__gda__=1442690397_20742ae238effc6b54fb8e746ba21891)

Real pretty birds  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks Sanjay Sir   :hatsoff:

One more added to the fleet.

This one has a functional Canard. Sukhoi again my favorite.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/mzPc-AeOfnH851kLK_1ZKrki_0AsbfKSUuAPhIZtV1c=w1114-h835-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/cebZs-YsGDXJBHQyEQHod-xJdM9qiYmCx6GSB7dXF_o=w1114-h835-no)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fn6Akx0Um77jAvNFDuCVsnVnQpd9n-qLmoNbU8zcu5g=w627-h835-no)

Super Like

wow. Canards ! Cool

Very nice Col. Liked these a lot, ordering a few 2826 motors today.

 {:)} nice
 looking forward to see it flying.

Fighters are missing Gusty here.  :giggle: :giggle:

Thanks Baijal Sir, Tanmay and wingman. Sukhoi maiden is tomorrow with F-18 of param.

There is one more beautiful Sukhoi of Sorav of Ludhiana which will also join us tommorow.

Fighter Mania tomorrow.

This is the last Tom he model I have made. No more Tom he for really long time. Will try others now.

Some Kulbits, some Roll Tumble Yaws are due with Hip Hopper song in the background

Yes yes !!!!. Fact is we are missing you here Gusty.

Have fun and post lots of videos  :thumbsup: