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Title: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: samlikespad on September 05, 2011, 06:44:24 PM
Though I did not make the spadstick back in India, its the first thing I did once I reached Jeddah ;) Here is a video of my electric version of SPADSTICK. Since I didn't like the stock tail and square wing, modified both :D Some build pics and video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oh-u6taQsY


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: coolpratheesh on September 05, 2011, 07:43:13 PM
looks great.... and awesome landings.


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: santhosh on September 05, 2011, 10:08:30 PM
 :hatsoff: :hatsoff: improved a lot in the landing :)


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: VC on September 05, 2011, 10:15:25 PM
Great build and video! {:)} {:)} {:)}

How easy is it to fly? Could an absolute beginner make and fly this as a Trainer?


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: KALYANPRODHAN on September 05, 2011, 10:31:33 PM
And specifications please. With modified plan.
Wing with 2mm Coro or 3mm ?


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: spitfire on September 06, 2011, 12:00:02 AM
Impressive build!   {:)}

What is power setup?


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: samlikespad on September 06, 2011, 02:43:22 AM
Thanks coolpratheesh ,

Santhosh Bhai Thanks! The trainer I made that day was having a H stab issue causing pitch probs. That day, it was the maiden and I completed the build early morning. Did not get enough time to check the build. Later I fixed the issues and she flew well and the landings were OK. This is a video of the same bird after fixing the H stab issue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFAj9g1e-F4&feature=related

VC, though it floats quite well (I shed a lot of weight), plus not having a dihedral, could be a handful for an absolute beginner. It responds and tracks well, bit touchy compared to a trainer.The stock model weighs 5 1/2 #, mine weighs 4# 4 Oz (just about 1.95 Kg).

Kalyan: 3mm symmetrical wing ( I increased 1/2" cord), V stab is 9" high 11" long with a 5:4 Rudder, H stab is 18" wide with 4" Elevator (both tapered for appeal as well as to reduce flutter). And by the way, I dont use any wooden or PVC formers. The whole fuze is 4mm and all the re-reinforcement is 4mm crisscrossed with only the exception of a lite ply for the motor mount and LG.

Spitfire: Its a HK 50-45 900kv, TGY 80A plush, 4s 3.3Mah and a 11x6 Master Airscrew. At 60% throttle it hangs the plane with ease and a little more it punches out.

I am glad that you all liked it :D


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: samlikespad on October 29, 2011, 01:47:26 AM
Crashed my eSS and rebuilt with some more tail mods. This time took the pain to paint it :)


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: samlikespad on November 12, 2011, 02:15:01 PM
Video update on the eSS

And this time, I increased the rudder size even more and it surely is reflecting in the knife-edge performance. I was told by many that its very difficult to get a stick to knife,...took that as a challenge and this time quite happy with the results. Though it requires a bit of elevator coupling to keep it in a straight line, considering that its a scratch built...I can live with that :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4OZREnditU&feature=channel_video_title


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: samlikespad on December 04, 2011, 04:22:30 AM
Tried my eSS on a cross windy day and brought it back in one piece :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8f4nvA6i4k&feature=related


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: rcpilotacro on December 04, 2011, 06:02:32 AM
Sam
A few things i thought of bringing to your notice,
(a) your Aileron throw is more, you could have some D/R and expo for your aileron
(b) Move the CG slightly more forward, she is a tad tail heavy, thats why at low speeds she is doing that
(c) remember only way to beat the wind is speed, keep the speed high, come closer to the ground , winds die down close to ground due friction, now reduce speed and land

Hope this helps


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: samlikespad on December 04, 2011, 11:48:33 AM
Thanks GustySaab,

a)I have DR set (not expo as I dont know how to properly set it), and it was on high rates. Kindly advice me if I should shift to Low rates while on low speed moves :help:

b) CG: I have two batteries for her (4s 3.0 and 4s 3.3). While on 3.0, she is tad tail heavy, and while on 3.3 she feels better. Though I have added some lead to the 3.0 battery, still I enjoy a little bit of tail heaviness as it helps me with hovering  ;D 

c)Proper landing is still some thing I need to put some effort to. I always tend to reduce speed while landing especially on windy days or if I am tensed  :banghead: Its about 6 or 7 months into this hobby, I guess I was busy building than flying. Since very recently my planes started coming back home in one piece, I have started putting more attention to flying.

I am very happy that you found time to review my clip and came forward to help  :salute: Will certainly have your advices in mind next time I go to the field...and please please do keep them coming  (:|~


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: rcpilotacro on December 04, 2011, 12:46:22 PM
Thanks GustySaab,

a)I have DR set (not expo as I dont know how to properly set it), and it was on high rates. Kindly advice me if I should shift to Low rates while on low speed moves :help:


reduce the aileron throw itself, it looks like around 20+ mm to should be around 10-12 mm with atleast 30-40% expo.

I would still suggest to move your CG slightly forward.


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: samlikespad on December 10, 2011, 02:44:31 PM
Dear Gusty Saab,

Last day tried your suggestions and she behaved a lot better on landings. It proved that you were right and high rates on windy day should not be in my menu yet :( Speedy landing were much smoother compared to my usual landings too. I had roll couple issues with KE while on high rates and switching AIL to low gave me a much more smoother KE.

Thanks a ton  :salute: and hope to learn more from you :D


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: rcpilotacro on December 10, 2011, 06:18:25 PM
you are welcome sam anytime, i live , breathe flying, if this doesn't come to me naturally, then i haven't done anything n my 41 yrs of existence :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: sanjayrai55 on December 10, 2011, 06:50:35 PM
Great build, great flight & great tips from Augustine! Keep spadding Sam!


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: vineet on December 10, 2011, 07:26:49 PM
very good place no traffic , feeling bad sometimes to  live in delhi..


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: samlikespad on December 10, 2011, 07:41:17 PM
Thanks guys... :D I dont know how to thank people like Gusty saab who are always there to help the less experienced   :hatsoff:  :salute:


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: samlikespad on March 25, 2012, 04:16:27 PM
My eSS still flying :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd48E5Mf5Cg&feature=channel



Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: samlikespad on November 08, 2014, 12:55:58 AM
Built an eSS for a friend :) after a long break from SPAD builing, I built an AVI for him first. Once he was good enough for a sports model built the spadstick. some pics of it after a bit of simple paint work with its new owner. Its a two night's quick build (as usual :D ).


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: iwincar on November 08, 2014, 10:48:19 AM
@Rcpilotacro @gusty@kalyanpradhan@sanjayrai55@vc and may more you are pillars of rc


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: sanjayrai55 on November 08, 2014, 10:58:33 AM
Good to see you still spadding Sam  ;D ;D ;D

Why does your Spadstick look so different from mine? http://www.rcindia.org/electric-planes/spadstick-electric-(full-size)/ (http://www.rcindia.org/electric-planes/spadstick-electric-(full-size)/)



Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: samlikespad on November 08, 2014, 01:18:05 PM
Sanjay bhayya, I saw your spadstick and I have to admit its a beauty  :salute: Mine is different as I modified it for lite 3D. Will post a video soon and you will see what it can do  ;)


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: sanjayrai55 on November 08, 2014, 01:22:55 PM
Looking forward to that  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I just built according to STTB


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: samlikespad on November 08, 2014, 01:25:21 PM
Yours looks even better than STTB  {:)}


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: samlikespad on November 15, 2014, 01:13:43 AM
As promised but not as good as I wanted  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flZDwinVzJg&list=UUmmiZyCcnF9rorZ7Ek16meg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flZDwinVzJg&list=UUmmiZyCcnF9rorZ7Ek16meg)

Pics attached after some on the spot paint job too.


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: manojswizera on November 15, 2014, 10:34:23 AM
Nice build sam.
Manojlikeyourspad  ;)


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: satz flying on November 15, 2014, 10:43:52 AM
Really good. Keeping doing


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: samlikespad on November 15, 2014, 12:05:16 PM
Thanks dears :-)


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: sanjayrai55 on November 16, 2014, 10:20:56 AM
samstilllikesspad!!!  {:)} {:)} {:)}


Super-duper buddy! Keep them going high  :thumbsup:

Please share the modifications you have done from the original STTB plans and the full specs


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: VC on November 16, 2014, 10:13:47 PM
 :thumbsup: Great going Sam! :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: samlikespad on November 16, 2014, 10:27:43 PM
Thanks dears :) Didnt wanted to quit building that easily ;)

Now about the changes, well actually its very little. You could find a few pics in the beginning of this thread (the first one I built few years back) showing the tail mods.

I kept the Elev span the same but increased the cord for more surface while Rudder was completely changed to resemble a 3d plane. On the other hand, the wing was slightly modified too. The span is 48" (bit shorter to help with rolls compared to the stock 52") while the cord is slightly more ( 12" plus 2.5" AIL).
I have tried to avoid use of wood as much as possible to reduce overall weight. The only pieces used are lite ply...

1. Motor mount 3mm lite-ply firewall, 2. two pieces sandwiched for LG mount with bottom plate covered with fiber glass cloth. 3. Both ELEV halves have a piece of Ply joining the in a "V" shape, small pieces of lite ply on the AIL. Couple of places, I have used 4mm barbecue skewers through 4mm coro (behind the battery and just behind trailing edge of wing) for structural strength. Since the plane is not with me, I could not take any pics to illustrate the mods. I could do this next time when I see him if required.


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: girishsarwal on November 17, 2014, 10:17:33 AM
 :salute: great work sam


Title: Re: Electric SPADSTICK Build
Post by: samlikespad on November 17, 2014, 11:01:37 AM
Thanks dear :)

Sorry, I missed the "full specs" :D

Electron Burner: Turnigy G46 670kv
Prop: Master Airscrew 12x8
ESC: Plush 60A
Servos: HK STD cheapies :)
LG: Custom 1" aluminum I brought from Kerala