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« on: October 10, 2010, 08:40:58 AM »
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Hi everybody,

I wasn't sure where to post this, but I just wanted to let you know, I'm constantly adding new plans to my website. All are available to download and use as you wish. All that is asked, is "do not sell". I hope to add many more in the weeks to come so keep checking back.

http://www.downloadzgalore.com/rcplans

Have fun,
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2010, 11:48:25 AM »
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Wayne,

Thanks a ton and welcome to the forum!

I would suggest all newbies (especially scratchbuilders) to go through these two links posted by Wayne. They are like a Bible for designing your models.

http://www.rcfoamcrafters.com/design.htm

http://www.downloadzgalore.com/rcplans/fwcalc.html


Thanks again!

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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2010, 04:08:42 PM »
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VC,

Your very welcome. If there's anything I can do to help the newbie, just let me know. I'm not an expert, but I'm at the point where I can fly most of the planes I build, with mostly good results. I haven't yet gone to 2.4gz. I'm sticking with 72mhz FM because I fly alone and prefer the extra range. I use a JR SX-600 tx. These can be bought on Ebay at a very good price. I just use Corona 6 ch. receivers. If there's anyway to get flying cheap, I probably have the answer. I just need to learn what materials are readily available in India, so I can help you guys. On my http://www.downloadzgalore.com/rcplans page, you can see my funny looking trainer that can be built for next to nothing. A pool noodle, or pipe insulation, a 3/8" dowel or carbon fiber rod, and some foam, or coroplast, packing tape, and you have an almost indestructable trainer for next to nothing.

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Wayne
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Hi Wayne -

It would be great if you can post more details about your crashproof trainer in a thread of its own.  All equipment used, weight, glue used etc etc.  And a direct link to the plan of it.
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Hi Anwar,

Sorry it took so long for a response to this. I thought I could come up with something by now, but I've been so busy with my website, other plane projects etc. I have no plans for my crashproof trainer. I built that over 2 yrs ago when I needed to self teach myself to build and fly. It's was just built from a hexagon shaped foam pool noodle (pipe insulation will work also) with a 3/8' dowel running threw it to hold the tail. I had numerous motors on it, but a 2208/12 1800KV with an 8" prop for clearance was the best result. The wing is just 1/4"x32"x7" fanfold foam held on to dowels with rubber bands. The entire plane was hot glued.

I really wish I had the time to do a new build of it for you guys, but that was a one time thing for me and now I'm always doing pusher jets. For the newcomer to the hobby, the thing I realized, was by using the information and tools (calculators and formulas) on my website, and some imagination, you can quickly build a flying plane. Taking a flat wing design, and starting with a C of G 1/3 of the way back from the leading edge gives you a good start for a flyable balance.

Again, I apologize for the late response and not being able to deliver plans at this time.

Wayne

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P51D 5mm depron Plan:

A4 Tiled:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showatt.php?attachmentid=1012423&d=1160072932


Letter Tiled:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showatt.php?attachmentid=1015788&d=1160327837
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thank you all for your valuable contribution
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Good evening every one
  Anybody in search of foam fighter plans here is the link
http://rcfoamfighters.com/blog/?category_name=rc-plane-plans-and-templates
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thats is a good site.. rcfoamfighters. I myuself built a f22 from it. Its prety sweet.
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Trex 250 clone -- HK250GT
F-22 Propjet (home made)
RC-help trainer plane from rc-help.com
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Syma 107, couple of crappy airhogs, Honeybee FP v2
 

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Hi guys. I have been away for awhile, but just got some interesting plans for a quick build that I believe would make a nice trainer.
Please feel free to download and use.


http://rcfoamcrafters.informe.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=37&start=&sid=620fb3bb86907ae2f90ac919c30f3723

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but which of these are the best in each category
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Hey guys where do yo all get your foams (epp,epo, depron) im tired of searching....at last ive to cut my packing cardboard to make my plane...which was very tiresome
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Hi Guys......
Here is my contribution to what I have collected over the years and archived..

Anwar... I bet you havent seen such a long list before.... Smiley

Easy Foam-board Wing Airfoil: the Basic Version
Making Aerofoil wings out of foam…..;
ARMIN WING CONSTRUCTION: start-to-finish process with links ;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_51333&feature=iv&src_vid=qJZoqGHAIDE&v=karr67ZYho4
the Armin Wing: part 2 - Cutting, Beveling, Bending the Airfoil ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_676429&feature=iv&src_vid=karr67ZYho4&v=RgBSbnZh_KM

FOAMBOARD FUSELAGE TUBES ;


TAPE COVERING FOAMBOARD - For RC Airplane Construction;



How to make a crash-proof 3D foam RC plane ;


BUILD AN AEROPLANE FOR  UNDER $10
   
Part 2 Flying Video of above; http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=ufmRpaObx0w   

How to Fly video;    

   

http://www.foamyfactory.com/

FAST FOAMBOARD DELTA WING - Details


Foamboard Building Techniques: Stabilizers 2 - Control Surface Hinges;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_450164&feature=iv&src_vid=dDi0Tfj0vIc&v=e1_pjhQWj98

Plans and videos For Scratchbuilt Foamies ;
Articles By FliteTest ;
http://flitetest.com/authors/FliteTest#/textSearch=FTScratchBuild-Beginner
http://flitetest.com/authors/FliteTest#/textSearch=FTScratchBuild


The 4 Reasons To Use a KF AIRFOIL! ;

KF Airfoil Testing!!! (see sidebar) ;

Flite Test : Delta Wing - Scratch Build ;

http://flitetest.com/articles/DeltaScratchBuild

http://assets.flitetest.com/article_files/FT-Delta-Swappable-TILED-PLANS_1360345579.pdf


FT Swappable Power Pod Plans;

http://assets.flitetest.com/article_files/FT-Power-Pod-Swappable-TILED-PLANS_1360986132.pdf

Flite Test : FT 3D - SCRATCH BUILD;
You Tube Video;
 http://flitetest.com/articles/ft-3d-scratch-build
http://www.stonekap.net/ftplans/FT-3D-TILED-PLANS.pdf

http://flitetest.com/articles/ft-3d-speed-build-swappable


BUILDING INSTRUCTIONS
Foamy Factory Models Mini Series   Superb detailed instructions on HOW TO BUILD A DEPRON PLANE:  http://www.foamyfactory.com/docs/Instructions-Mini-V1.2.2.pdf








Remember general 100 watts per pound for gliders
200 watts per pound for trainers or sport flying
250 to 300 watts for Pylon racing  or 3D flying
ie for 750 to1kg plane we need 300watt  480 / 960KVA motor with a 30 amp esc on 3 cell 2200mah with 8x6, 9x4 prop or 9.5 x 7.5  (T28 by Parkzone’s prop)
same for 3D will need 400 watt with 40 amp esc
1.5KG plane will require 600 watts ( 600-800KVA) 60 amp esc with 11 x 7 or 12 x6 prop
RC BASICS: What is KV? ;
Flite Test : Hot Glue - FAST TIP ;

http://www.flyelectric.ukgateway.net/

This site showcases big electric planes, has loads of free plans, covers many interesting contruction topics and provides circuit diagrams and advice for lithium batteries. Electrics used to be difficult; today with brushless motors and lithiums we are spoilt for choice. ... I like the Bounce here…
 
BOUNCE Great 3D model with 24" (605mm) wing. Almost indestructable using EPP. EPP is more resilient and lighter than Depron so try it. Designed for CD-Rom motors it weighs under 6oz. I don't think you will be disappointed with this model!
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You can also take a look here......
http://www.rcscratchbuilders.com/pla...oupsplans.html
An off site link that has some of these plans listed with photos.
Pretty good site so if you get a chance, take a look.


3D Indoor/Pattern Planes - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=550372

3D Foamy
Free Plan Downloads - http://www.3dfoamy.com

Airdave213
Nano Planes Free Downloads - http://www.nanoplanes.net/shark.html (Look at the bottom of the pages for the plans and manuals)

AZ Astro
AZ Shrike - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118633
(Look at post # 267 for the plans)

Blackrat
Eurofighter - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=543570

Bogard
Illusion - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=655475

Chara
Bipie - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49752
(Plans are in post # 47)
Harpy Cat - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=508902 (Plans are in post # 41 and 43)
Twin Boom Cutie - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=414472

Chris 3D
Micro Pitts - http://www.chris3d.com/files/micropitts.pdf
Micromoth - http://www.chris3d.com/files/micromoth.pdf

Crvogt
The Hoot - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=316794

Davereap
Flying Wing - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=434265
24" SU27/Eagle Duo - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=580622
Avro Vulcan - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=595706
A couple more - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=667879
Ace And Jack of Diamonds - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=558321
(plans in post # 1074)


Depron Dave
F-15 Shock Flyer - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=401946
(Build Thread)
Plans are loacated here - http://www.raptorblade.com/F15/F15.htm

derfred - http://plans.aerofred.com

DRITCH
Lil-F-22 - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=711684

Eddie P
Pusher Jet Free Plans "Sticky" Thread - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=352329
(It's basically the same set up as this Thread, but for pusher Jets.)

Eflight Wiki
Free Plans and a wealth of info
about this great hobby - http://www.eflightwiki.com/


ewo
Amos Moses - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=415413
Super F-16 - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207549 (Look at posts #283 #284 #285)
Extra 300 - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=534453
Got Amit Bipe - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=549752
Ewolutio - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=2935

firetrappe
Sumo 3D - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=710077

Flybike
Combat Plane - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=391418

FlynAZ
Lanell - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=505915
Double Edge - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=599023
PurFoamance - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=738450

Foamy Factory
Free Plan Downloads - http://www.foamyfactory.com


Gene Bond
Yak 54 - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=420980
Blu Beagle - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=338359
Blu 51cd - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389720
Gym BluX2 - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=328736
Blu DC-3/C-47 Twin - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343728
4F-51 Fat Floppy Foamie - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=375893
4-S Bipe - [/colorhttp://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=452577
Gee Blu - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=223715
Blu Cub2 - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=532138
Gym Blu - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=313475


Glovesave39
F-16XL Profile Propjet - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=441231
F-14 Profile Propjet (The Little Version) - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=456358
Profile F-18 Mid-Motor Mount - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=710361

goldguy - http://www.flyelectric.ukgateway.net
GOLDGUY'S SMART DART by GENE BOND - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6549131

Gpw
His Complete Collection of designs - http://www.foamfly.com/gallery/Glen

Hans-Joachim's
FW190D - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=605291
P-51D - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=578985
Spitfire - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=649816

JAM
Warlock And Spector and Snow Runner Add-on for both - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=429675

Jerbear
Simple Wing - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281606
Hooter - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=498069
Simple Corsair - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=479524

Jetset44
Fokker DR1 - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=425387

Jivaro - http://www.jivaro-models.org/

Juscuz OR
Fanfold TBF Avenger (2) 36" - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=562080

Kaos2
Regal - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=712006

Kdahlhaus
Blu-109 - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=545126
Blu-87 Stuka - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=591778

kf2qd
Profile 4 Channel Supercub - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=560992
BigBluBee and BluBee - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=740375
22" F-117 - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=723173

Kram242
comBAT - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=517997

Lakaota
Arrow - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=662989

lenniegordo
StingRay - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=645989

Magic612
Little Go Bipe - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=606975
Stephens Akro - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=694103
Wicked Witch of the West - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=589329


me_wantee
The Wombat - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=659911

Midwest Products
Importers of Cell Foam 88 and some Free Airplane Plans - http://www.midwestproducts.com/proje...22&projSubID=7

Mikeythev
P-40 Warhawk - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=543834


Minifly
The Mobius - http://minifly.rchomepage.com/plans.htm

Mr. Flash
30" Ultimate (ish) - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=579000
Infineon - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=606425


mr. arthur1234
Klompen
Kanon vlieger or the wooden shoe - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=727153

Photon
Twinax V2 - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=555476
ParkBipe-Depron Biplane - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=407323

Pmjass
Fokker DR1 (Outdoor Version) - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=288957
Fokker DR1 (indoor Version "Baby Baron") - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305596
Das Ugl-e-stick - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=490620
SU-26 MX 3D Full Fuz - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=680193
SE5a Full Fuse 3D - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=703671

Prop-er
Hydro-Plane - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=380781
Rafale XL - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=530107
Depron Duplex Delta - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=559186
Hydro-Plane - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=380781
Rafale XL - http://www.rcplans.nl/catalog/index.php?cPath=26
Depron Duplex Delta - http://www.rcplans.nl/catalog/index.php?cPath=28
WingCAT - http://www.rcplans.nl/ (Lost Link)
FastCAT - http://www.rcplans.nl/catalog/index.php?cPath=29
Mini Tensor 3D - http://www.rcplans.nl/catalog/index.php?cPath=31

RCParkflyer's Master list of Free Parkjet Plans
Parkjets - http://www.parkjets.com/free-plans.html

Red
Miss Hangar One Hydrofoam - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5643361
Full Sheet Plans - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5643962

RicoJ
Full Fuse Foam P-51 Mustang - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=533749

Shakystick
Manta Racer - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=425342

Sloper Steve
Mini 3D EPP for CD Brushless - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=273376
Downloads form His site - http://www.slofly.com/downloads/plans/

soundman
Silent Mite - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=618057

Spoogemonkey
Over 400+ MB of free plans - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=376414

Stringfly
Sidewinder Missle - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=501856

Thatovalguy
Bird Dog - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168065
Soma Bipe (converted from ewo's Amos Moses) - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=415413 (Look at post # 308 and post # 681 for the Final Version)
Fanfold Fun Jet - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123838
Dirty Dees Bi-Plane - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=528947
Stewart Little Bi-Plane - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=208689
Iluminado - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=549752

TireTrax
Revert - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=682098

Tony65x55
For a more detailed listing of the tony65x55 designs with links to threads and plans, see the "** Tony65x65 ** Planes & Threads" sticky thread - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=997484

** Funky Flier ** - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=207

** The Kline-Fogleman Modified Wing ** - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...0&postcount=38

** RAF SE5a - 32 inch! ** - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=13

** Desert Hawk ** - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...9&postcount=15

** Blu-Baby Primary Trainer ** Plans, Pics and Fun! - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=681556
(see Sticky "** Tony65x65 ** Planes and Threads" for a full list of all Blue Baby plans - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...98&postcount=2)

** Piper PA-36 Pawnee Brave Ag-Plane ** - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...92&postcount=1

** The Pitts Challenger ** - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...86&postcount=1

** Blu-Sail II and the Joy of Monobloc and KFm Wings ** - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...70&postcount=1

** The Mo-109e Fighter ** 1/10 Park Scale Messerschmitt - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...33&postcount=1

** The Blu-Hurri ** - 1/10 Park Scale Hawker Hurricane - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...03&postcount=1

** PIRANHA! ** - 43" KFm4 Aerobat - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...06&postcount=1

** Skyote Biplane ** - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=27

** DHC2 Beaver Mod of the Blu-Baby 33 ** - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...08&postcount=4

** Cute Little Fokker ** - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...48&postcount=2

** Sea BB 42" & 26" Seaplane Mod of Blu-Baby 42 ** - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...26&postcount=1

** Mooney Mite Blu-Baby Mod ** - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...56&postcount=2

** P-40 Blu-Tiger ** 1/10 Park Scale Warhawk - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...61&postcount=1

** Tuffy ** Pusher Type Primary Trainer - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...97&postcount=1

TurboCingy
Bi-Night 3D - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=674182

UAVPilot
Glostick Night Flyer Design - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=524110
4Q - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=560468

UFly
A Hovering Machine - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=461041.VyceroyBlueCor/Fanfold sorta GrummanGoose - [url]http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235995 (Plans are in post # 573 & 574)

Waterdog
Nasty - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=390003
STC - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=354237
Big Nasty - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=404993
"STS" Seaplane/Airplane - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=372857
"ST" AP Plane - http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=354384

MISC. sites with good stuff to look at:
http://www.modele-kartonowe.com
http://www.aeroplaza.nl/...go to flight and then plans
http://glidersusa.free.fr/...has free paper plane models
http://richard.ferriere.free.fr/3vues/3vues.html...loaded with 3-views
http://www.willingtons.com/mymac/Plans_Download.htm... plans in different formats
How to Build a Great Homemade RC Airplane Really Cheap ; 3/8 x 3/8 Maple stick as fuselage;




FOAM CUTTING:
How To Cut Foam Wings - Intro - From FoamWingCutting.com ;



A MINEFIELD HERE:

http://www.rcmf.co.uk/4um/index.php/topic%2c95880.0.html
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That  is a mighty comprehensive list, and will serve as a bookmark yo many here. Thanks so much.

I don't agree with that old formula of

"Remember general 100 watts per pound for gliders
200 watts per pound for trainers or sport flying
250 to 300 watts for Pylon racing  or 3D flying"

In my experience, which undoubtedly is limited, 100 W per pound is more than adequate for trainers and sport models. In fact, on these the normal in-flight power is about 50~60 Watts.

Even a common powered Glider like the Easystar does not cross 40 W/lb in normal flying.
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Hey guys where do yo all get your foams (epp,epo, depron) im tired of searching....at last ive to cut my packing cardboard to make my plane...which was very tiresome

Erik , i have purchased same thing as depron, but with different name.
you can go to any stationery shop near , architect colleges. architects use same depron type things to make small models of buildings. stationary shops call it high density thermacol, it comes in 4 mm and 8 mm sizes.

or go with CORO , instead of carboard.( just a suggestion )
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That  is a mighty comprehensive list, and will serve as a bookmark yo many here. Thanks so much.

I don't agree with that old formula of

"Remember general 100 watts per pound for gliders
200 watts per pound for trainers or sport flying
250 to 300 watts for Pylon racing  or 3D flying"

In my experience, which undoubtedly is limited, 100 W per pound is more than adequate for trainers and sport models. In fact, on these the normal in-flight power is about 50~60 Watts.

Even a common powered Glider like the Easystar does not cross 40 W/lb in normal flying.

Hi Sanjay,
It all depends on the motors we are using too... for example I built this Depron delta with PVC ELECTRICAL TRUNKING as a exchangeable power pod fuselage ;

http://www.rcindia.org/electric-planes/epp-foamie-mini-v-unbreakable-type-fun-plane/msg157707/#msg157707  

It just glided to ground when it was launched....Had to modify a bit as the motor was not powerful enough to carry 450 grams (350 model +battery100gms)
 HexTronik 24gram Brushless Outrunner 1300kv   Brushless Outrunner Motor.   Kv - 1300rpm/v
Max Load:  7.5A  No Load Current: 0.7A  Suggested Lipo: 3 cell 11.1v    Thrust: 400g+
Suggested Prop: 8x3.8   Weight: 20g



 EMAX 2822 installed .... reasonable flight now... Could do with a bit more OOOmph!!!  ..
When reading the specs of these motors they say they are capable for flying models from 200 grams to 800 grams but that is a load of bull...

EMAX CF2822 (125W) 1200Kv Brushless Outrunner Motor


SPECS:* Type: CF2822  * Weight: 39g  * Efficiency: 85%  * Cont Current: 10A
* Max Current: 16A (10sec)  * Kv: 1200 (revs per volt) * No load current 10v: 0.9A
* Dimensions: 22 x 10mm * Motor Shaft diameter: 3 mm * Recommended model weight: 200-800g
* No. Of cells: 2-3 Lipo or 6-8 Cells Ni-xx

Powerful outrunner with the ability to swing large props makes it ideal for E3D, Aerobatic, Sports models from 200-800g - there is also a 1500Kv verson for faster models!


I like my models overpowered than underpowered and was expecting this motor to propel it like a rocket but no..I find this 125 watt motor can just about pull a 450 grams// just over a pound weight...!!!

If we use your theory of 50 to 60 grams per pound then this model only weighs a pound and a few ounces.... and the motor is 125 watts
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1. My observation was on a trainer weighing 1.2 Kg, flying with a motor of 1180 KV, max 270 W; a Sporty Biplane weighing 650 grams with a motor 1400 KV max 190 W, a high winger sport weighing 1.9 Kg with a motor 1500 KV max 400 W, and a few others
2. I specifically use the word "in flight" i.e. exclude take-off, maneuvers etc.
3. I still stand by my own experience
4. The Wattage figures are 'as measured' not 'as rated'
5.  I measure thrust directly, along with wattage and current drawn. It is noteworthy that often ratings tend to be exaggerated, and it is better to measure yourself with the prop you will be using - a Gemfan prop and an MAS prop of the same size will produce quite different results
6. Not 50 grams per pound but 50 W per pound. Also an electric motor needs two parameters to be specified - Torque & speed, or watts and speed. Your Hextronic 1300 KV motor is producing only about 50~65 Watts in reality. If you measure it you will see. 7.5 A max, running will be 5~6 A, running voltage will be about 10~10.5 .
7. In smooth level flight, obviously above stall speed, a trainer should not draw more than 50~60 Watts per pound.
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Of course, it would depend on wing loading too. A heavy model would need more power than a light one of the same dimensions

One size won't fit all
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Here is an example of a Branded Motor Specification. Wattage derivation is not so simple. Best and reliable method is actual measurement

 Himax HC2812-1080 Motor
            Weight: 2.12oz (60g)
            Max Power: HC2812 series, 160W (dependent on several factors)
            Max RPM: 20,000 RPM
            Diameter: 1.09" (27.8mm)
            Length: 1.14" ( 28.9mm)
            Shaft Diameter: .157" (4mm)
            Mounting Screw Thread: 2.5mm, max depth 4.5mm on 16mm (.625") bolt
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            Maximum Case Temperature: 149°F (65°C)
            kV: 1080Rm = .111 lo = 0.75
            Efficient Operating Current 5-13A, 15A max 15 seconds
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Sanjay,
Thanks for all your comments... Nice to have your input as all fellow modellors are now sharing the wealth of your knowledge too...

I normally discuss with fellow modellors and decide on the motor.... Even though I invested in a watt meter a year ago, it is still in its packing and I have not had the chance to use it.

So my knowledge on this field is limited...

I have recently been following Experimental Airlines and this guys advise is quite sound...



I normally discuss with fellow modellors and decide on the motor....

 However I have found that whatever the manufacturers advise as thrust of the motor, it is never actual thrust in practical but if my model is half the weight, the motor tends to propel it like a rocket if needed and reasonably slow when needed.... 

I am scratchbuilding a DEPRON 1mt span plane and will need Ramesh Tahlan and your help in deciding the motor when the time comes..
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Better unpack that wattmeter!  Wink Wink Giggle

RT sir is a master!  Salute You are in good hands there

It does make sense to use a slightly higher rated motor, if you can live with the extra weight and the larger, heavier ESC (and the additional cost Cheesy)

BTW, which Depron model are you building? Yesterday I was reading about the FT Racer, a speed model, 60" wingspan. Recommended motor is a 2826 - 1400 KV! That produces 160 W or so with a 9*47 SF.

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Better unpack that wattmeter!  Wink Wink Giggle

RT sir is a master!  Salute You are in good hands there

It does make sense to use a slightly higher rated motor, if you can live with the extra weight and the larger, heavier ESC (and the additional cost Cheesy)

BTW, which Depron model are you building? Yesterday I was reading about the FT Racer, a speed model, 60" wingspan. Recommended motor is a 2826 - 1400 KV! That produces 160 W or so with a 9*47 SF.




Hi Sanjay,
Its here;

http://www.rcindia.org/electric-planes/depron-plane-scratch-built/

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Hi I hav 700gram thrust 1200kv motor and all the needed electronics. Need beginner plane plans to build one. Smiley
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