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Title: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: K K Iyer on January 28, 2016, 11:06:34 PM
Hi everyone,
Been long since I posted a build log.
After the demise of my much loved Spitfire, and retirement of my 60% Curare,
I had been wanting to build a Mustang.

It finally took inspiration/ encouragement/ goading from sanjayrai55 to get me started.
So here goes...


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: K K Iyer on January 28, 2016, 11:23:09 PM
Took approximate dimensions from a 60 year old Fred Reese design from outerzone.uk
(Thanks SteveWMD)
Did a rough sketch. Then a better full scale drawing. Pics 1 & 2.
Then copied to depron, and cut!

Unfortunately, the depron was only 5mm, unlike the Spitfire's 8mm.
So added fuselage doublers. Pic 3.
A 15mm thickness should give a more rounded look...

And the 5mm depron is curved.
Just look at the wing blanks. Pic 4.

Will decide tomorrow what to do.


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: sanjayrai55 on January 29, 2016, 07:06:06 AM
Looks like it's coming out really well. Wow! The wing curve. How did you manage that so accurately?


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: K K Iyer on January 29, 2016, 07:24:26 PM
I didn't manage it. It's the problem. Have to flatten to avoid warped wings!

Meanwhile progress on fuselage. With cutouts to avoid too many items creating drag.
Still undecided whether to glass it or not...



Title: Re:
Post by: a3ruz on January 29, 2016, 07:33:27 PM
Is this depron sir ?


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: K K Iyer on January 29, 2016, 09:13:25 PM
Yes, 7mm, not 5 as I guessed.


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: Bhanu Prakash on January 29, 2016, 10:29:17 PM
nice build sir wing carve is amazing


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: K K Iyer on January 29, 2016, 11:24:32 PM
Wing carve?  :headscratch:
No carving involved.
Wing curve?
Not a design feature. Just a fault of the raw material.


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: rastsaurabh on January 29, 2016, 11:46:20 PM
KK sir, Is this pure depron ? or the newly available compressed thermacole from stationary shop.

If its compressed thermacole how is the strength?


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: K K Iyer on January 30, 2016, 01:00:48 PM
It's depron.
Not come across compressed thermocol yet.


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: RCNeil21 on January 30, 2016, 02:09:14 PM
Nice build sir :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: kamalsahai on January 30, 2016, 03:42:47 PM
 :salute:

kp


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: Sukhpreet on January 30, 2016, 04:00:50 PM
 :bow:  :bow: Sir.

 (:|~ these beautiful flying machines.....!!!!


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: gaurang.1972 on February 03, 2016, 11:30:13 PM
Iyer sir very good going  {:)} {:)} {:)}


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: K K Iyer on February 06, 2016, 06:24:39 PM
It is highly inefficient to spend dozens/hundreds of hours on simple Foamies that can be built in 2-3 hours.

Unless of course you have all the time in the world, enjoy building from scratch, drawing your own sketches and plans, spending hours on each step, and thinking of more and more unnecessary complications as you go along.

Like using a router bit in a Dremel for grooving hardwood landing gear mounts for a model that doesn't even need an undercarriage. After annealing an old steel coat hangar to bend into U/C legs...

And I haven't even thought of a steerable tailwheel yet  ;D


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: sahilkit on February 07, 2016, 09:44:52 AM
So we can expect chrome plating on steel coat hanger under carriage..... ;)


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: SI74 on February 07, 2016, 10:18:24 AM
Patience is a virtue !


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: harshit batra on February 07, 2016, 07:48:57 PM
Sir how you corrected that curve on wings?


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: K K Iyer on February 08, 2016, 06:54:38 PM
Thanks Rai saheb, Bhanu, Neil, Kamal, Sukhpreet, Gaurang, Sahil and SI74.

Harshit, i thought the 5mm CF spar would straighten the curve in the depron, but my workmanship was not good enough. So cut the spar out and started again.

Using the opportunity to add more unnecessary complications like hardwood spar for mounting undercarriage, wing tips, false trailing edge of balsa, replacing depron with balsa for ailerons etc...

Guess I just like to fiddle around!


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: K K Iyer on February 13, 2016, 11:41:17 PM
Hope I can complete for tomorrow afternoon flying!


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: QuadcopterBuff on February 14, 2016, 01:02:45 PM
Looks fun!
May I ask what electronics you used?


Title: Re:
Post by: docnayeem on February 14, 2016, 01:54:33 PM
Awesome build ... Iyer Sir ... Awaiting Maiden video


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: wingmanbunty on February 14, 2016, 05:59:02 PM
nice  {:)}


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: K K Iyer on February 19, 2018, 10:08:18 PM
2 years sitting on top of the bookshelf 90% complete
Because though it looks good enough in photos, the finish is fairly bad when seen close up.
Too embarrassed to take it to the field, so parked on the bookshelf.
Don't even remember the wing bottom was yellow, must have peeled it of sometime.

Well, since I haven't done anything new in quite a while, perhaps it's time for this Mustang!
The wings flex a bit, so I fear they may flutter...
Proof next Sunday, hopefully


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: Aravind298 on February 19, 2018, 10:18:18 PM
Well, I'm pretty inspired, now that you've put an end to procrastination. Almost the same story with me.

My first quad build, in pretty bad condition, and I had always wanted to restore it to good health. But I was heavily procrastinating.
Now that I've got a fellow member who's doin' it, I'll also finish that by the end of this week.

Thanks for the push! :)


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: K K Iyer on February 19, 2018, 10:35:28 PM
@aravind298,
Looks like you didn't notice that the reason for parking was dissatisfaction with the finish...
Not procrastination.
Perhaps some excusable presumption about people you don't know

Victim of procrastination or otherwise, you must have built lots of models etc, judging by your average of 5 or more daily posts this year.

Perhaps you'll share some pics/videos of your builds.
Come on, show us your stuff. Sharing your experience will benefit many who are too shy to enquire.
Regards


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: Aravind298 on February 19, 2018, 10:50:16 PM
Sure! Forgive me to not read the post properly.

Yes. I do build quite a lot of quads. Mostly quadcopters. Haven't yet stepped into planes ;D

I test lots of quads: build them, test them, trash them. So I just take the data and throw away the rest( the parts would be too worn to be used again). And yes, I test and build batteries too. You might remember a company named 'Dronish', that had posted a lot of skeptics last year (well it was certainly true ;D )(And yeah, they are making a comeback). So, after testing them all, I'm left with almost no time to photograph the builds in a nice looking way :)

But I'm sure, by the end of next month, I'm planning to combine the testing and flying pics and start posting them here. Again, I'm lazy to buy a good camera and edit the stuff :D


Peace :hatsoff:



Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: K K Iyer on February 19, 2018, 11:33:47 PM

I test lots of quads: build them, test them, trash them.
So I just take the data and throw away the rest( the parts would be too worn to be used again).

And yes, I test and build batteries too.
You might remember a company named 'Dronish', that had posted a lot of skeptics last year (well it was certainly true ;D )(And yeah, they are making a comeback). So, after testing them all, I'm left with almost no time to photograph the builds in a nice looking way :)

Please post your test data. (Quads and batteries)
Will be of immense help to us.


Title: Re: Iyer's 36" Foamy P51 Mustang build
Post by: Aravind298 on February 20, 2018, 10:00:49 AM
@KK.

Most of the results would be pretty useless to the community. The motors I test, are not usually used by regular flyers. Either they are too efficient (and hence very expensive) or I custom make them(so nothing to compare with). I know I'm not being specific here ;D

About the batteries, I don't usually test LiPos, simply because it's a waste of time, from my perspective. I look for high energy density, so lipo is no way for it. So, I'll make it simple; I look for patterns that make up a high energy density cell. And hopefully, by following that pattern (or rather modifying it), a much better result could be obtained.

Anyways, I'll start posting the necessary results from April (let's hope).


Peace :hatsoff: