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Title: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 02:49:32 PM
Hello! i am building a micro aeronca champion out of depron for this year's sweepstakes! ;D
Specification going to be.
11 inch wingspan
micro pager 4mm with gearbox
70mah 1 cell lipo
Hk microsystem receiver(0.65g)
magnetic actuator for control surfaces.

Starting the build now! :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 02:53:29 PM
Plans printed out and of course,the newspaper ;D


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 03:31:35 PM
Progress


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 03:36:01 PM
More.Total fuselage weight less than 1 gram!


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 04:07:09 PM
Building the fuselage. Sanded the foam to 1mm. Glued the parts using rubber foam safe adhesive.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: Rcjabalpur on June 13, 2015, 04:07:52 PM
Very nice , looking forward for the flight .


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 04:10:28 PM
@rcjabalpur,Thanks ;D. Will maiden it as soon as I complete it. :)


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 04:14:08 PM
Adding strength to fuselage. Small depron pieces are inserted inside the fuselage to add some strength.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: Darshan for multirotors on June 13, 2015, 04:25:35 PM
Very nice.. awaiting flight
 {:)} :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 05:41:10 PM
Thanks Darshan :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 05:49:33 PM
Details.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 06:01:25 PM
Cut the wing from 3mm depron and sand it to 1mm. Bend it to make aerofoil shape or even the flat wing works. Bend the centre line to make V shape. This makes it fly much slower and stable. I added a small piece of metal wire to hold the V shape.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 06:05:29 PM
Total weight without electronics is just 1.5grams!


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 13, 2015, 07:13:00 PM
 {:)} {:)} {:)} Most auspicious start to the sweepstakes  ;)

Looking forward to the video. I'm sure it will fly fantastic  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: rcrcnitesh on June 13, 2015, 07:31:49 PM
Wow!!!! It's a beauty for sure.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 07:36:26 PM
@Sanjay sir, thankyou. Will upload a video for sure. :thumbsup:
@rcnitesh, thankyou. ;)


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: K K Iyer on June 13, 2015, 09:05:40 PM
Total weight without electronics is just 1.5grams!

Well done.  {:)}
The Nine Eagles Cessna, 20" wingspan weighs 95gms
So you have made a dramatic improvement!
Roman, where are you


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 09:39:07 PM
@Iyer sir, yes, these days I am working a lot on micros. ;)


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 14, 2015, 09:30:32 AM
Building my own gearbox!
4mm 7ohm motor
Tiny piece of balsa
Plastic tube
Pinion with micro gear


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 14, 2015, 09:45:54 AM
Gearbox weight 0.90gram!

Estimating the total weight of the plane.
Fuse with wing 1.5grams
Gearbox with prop 1.10grams
Rx 0.65grams
Battery 3grams
Actuator 0.20gram
Misc 0.30grams
Total weight= 6.75g :o


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 14, 2015, 04:20:10 PM
Built the mount using balsa 0.75mm.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 15, 2015, 05:44:53 PM
Landing gear and rx. Gear made from 1mm metal rod attached on a small piece of balsa.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 15, 2015, 06:44:24 PM
Rx and lipo. Lipo is 1cell 70mah. ;D


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 15, 2015, 06:53:19 PM
Module to control rx.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: girishsarwal on June 16, 2015, 11:32:18 AM
super sweet, would be fun to fly. sub'd


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 16, 2015, 06:53:33 PM
Made my own prop with balsa! Comparison with plastic one. Much less weight!


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 16, 2015, 06:57:57 PM
Weight comparison.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 16, 2015, 07:05:51 PM
Prop mounted on gear.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: Antriksh on June 16, 2015, 08:04:06 PM
very nice sir


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: K K Iyer on June 16, 2015, 08:36:07 PM
So what is the final all up weight?
Amazed at the low wt you are achieving!
May need the plastic prop for efficiency though.
I have a hard time getting a 12" chuck glider to be under 10gms...
Best wishes.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: sundaram on June 16, 2015, 11:10:12 PM
Wow Nice build. Keenly following it  {:)} {:)}


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 17, 2015, 12:05:24 AM
Thanks Antriksh :)

@Iyer sir, till now 5.5g may be a little over 6g with glue ;)
   Efficiency may not be a problem as the plastic prop may be heavier for 4mm         gearbox.I just tested with balsa prop its giving nice thrust.
Thanks again ;D


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 17, 2015, 12:07:56 AM
Thank you Sundaram sir :)


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 17, 2015, 07:40:38 PM
Making my own actuator ;D. I used Micro neodymium magnet, copper wire to make it.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 17, 2015, 07:44:08 PM
Added wheels too. :D


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: Darshan for multirotors on June 17, 2015, 07:47:30 PM
 {:)}  {:)} awaiting for flight eagerly  (:|~


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 17, 2015, 08:06:02 PM
Actuator added on tail of plane.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 17, 2015, 08:08:39 PM
How does the actuator work?


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 17, 2015, 08:12:51 PM
Hello sanjay sir, there is a coil which acts like electromagnet in which there is a small magnet. It works on attraction and repulsion. :)


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 17, 2015, 08:14:45 PM
I meant what does it do? Will it control the rudder from your Tx through the Rx?


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 17, 2015, 08:17:13 PM
Yes it controls the rudder through TX.Just same as servo. Control on rudder stick.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 17, 2015, 08:20:05 PM
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: rastsaurabh on June 17, 2015, 08:47:49 PM
Will it be proportional movement like servo or just flick.

and is it direct connection to RX ?


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 17, 2015, 10:08:18 PM
@rastsaurabh
The actuator is fully proportional just like servo moving each points. It flicks only when directly connected to power source.It is so proportional because of rx output.  ;)

Yes, it is directly connected to rx which is capable of driving the actuator directly. The normal rx requires a converter to hook up an actuator.  :)


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 20, 2015, 08:30:18 AM
Almost completed. Used a larger gear and prop.Now its giving much better thrust compared to the previous one.:-D


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 20, 2015, 08:36:51 AM
Making the battery hatch. 1mm balsa.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 20, 2015, 09:17:11 AM
Hatch completed.Mounting left. ;D


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 20, 2015, 09:43:52 AM
Completed.  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: docnayeem on June 20, 2015, 10:44:34 AM
Great work , what's the final AUW , and a close up photograph of the rudder actuator would be appreciated.
Regards


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 20, 2015, 11:53:16 AM
Here is the final auw.
And close up of the actuator.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 20, 2015, 11:54:52 AM
I may get a video of it by tomorrow evening :D


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: docnayeem on June 20, 2015, 02:16:16 PM
Excellent job ... Thanks


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 20, 2015, 05:48:28 PM
 :thanks:


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: K K Iyer on June 20, 2015, 07:13:35 PM
@kiran rc
I think many of us are waiting to see closeups of your actuators ;D


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 20, 2015, 07:22:04 PM
Posted already. Please see #49 reply. :) If everyone needs more closer look I think I need to create a build log for that thing too. ;)


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: manojswizera on June 21, 2015, 05:54:16 PM
Great achievement Kiran. So light weight, i can never think also.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: Rcjabalpur on June 21, 2015, 07:21:26 PM
Get a video soon kiran , awesome job .


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 22, 2015, 07:59:16 AM
It was too windy and rainy yesterday :( Will post the video by next sunday.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 27, 2015, 08:38:26 AM
I changed the prop from 3" inch to 4" gws prop. It climbing rate it quite good. Managed to get a video today. :thumbsup: Not enough space indoors. The wind was so strong that it would have carried the plane along with it. It was around 16-20km/h. :-\ I may soon get an outdoor video once the weather turns good and wind speed is low. ;D

https://youtu.be/qXZYgVNKYvQ (https://youtu.be/qXZYgVNKYvQ)


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: sundaram on June 27, 2015, 10:00:26 AM
Don't worry about outdoor flight Kiran. For Micro Indoor flight is very much a qualifying flight. Rarely you will be able to fly an under powered micro outside.

Beautiful model and great flight. All the very best.  {:)} {:)} :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 27, 2015, 10:06:00 AM
 

Beautiful model and great flight. All the very best.  {:)} {:)} :thumbsup:
thankyou sir
:thanks:


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 27, 2015, 10:09:25 AM
Don't worry about outdoor flight Kiran. For Micro Indoor flight is very much a qualifying flight. Rarely you will be able to fly an under powered micro outside.
That's true! It cant be flown in winds.Its just 8 grams. ;)


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: tantragna on June 27, 2015, 12:35:21 PM
Wow.. really nice plane! :thumbsup: But did you slam it to the ground at the end of the flight?


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 27, 2015, 02:46:50 PM
Wow.. really nice plane! :thumbsup: But did you slam it to the ground at the end of the flight?

 :thanks:
A little hard landing as I have no practice on 2channel planes. ;) To pitch up and down the throttle acts as elevator. But in a 3 channel plane, pitch can be corrected(while landing) on elevator stick. The model is very durable too, doesn't get damaged due to it light weight.  ;D


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: rcrcnitesh on June 27, 2015, 03:55:31 PM
Nice plane and flight.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 27, 2015, 04:17:05 PM
Thanks nitesh :)


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: K K Iyer on June 27, 2015, 05:10:47 PM
@kiran rc,
Looks like this the first proof of flight video of 2015 Sweepstakes.
Good job, well done {:)}

(Since you do not have elevator, try adding a tiny pinch of weight on the tail, to remove that nose down tendency on reducing power)


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 27, 2015, 05:43:16 PM
Thanks. Yes I will add a little weight at the tail.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on July 06, 2015, 04:58:46 PM
Flew again yesterday. ;D Some 2channel aerobatic and loops! ;)
https://youtu.be/bXqaSpB1dIA (https://youtu.be/bXqaSpB1dIA)


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: rcrcnitesh on July 06, 2015, 05:00:47 PM
Superb.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on July 06, 2015, 05:02:35 PM
Superb.
thanks!


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: sanjayrai55 on July 06, 2015, 05:08:37 PM
Very good  {:)} {:)} {:)}


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on July 06, 2015, 05:21:36 PM
 :thanks: Sanjay sir.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: K K Iyer on July 06, 2015, 08:55:33 PM
@kiran rc,
I feel so proud of your achievement.
A matter of pride for all of us!  {:)} {:)} {:)}


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on July 06, 2015, 09:30:44 PM
Iyer sir, :hatsoff:  :bow:


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: romanxdsouza on July 15, 2015, 10:13:48 PM
Total weight without electronics is just 1.5grams!

Roman, where are you
how did i skip this thread :banghead:
im around sir took a brake for a bit.....kiran superb build if you dont mind whats you age....?  The spot you are flying is is great for indoor wish i had one? You have some great skills kiran...please add your build thread here so all can refer.. http://www.rcindia.org/electric-planes/successfully-flown-micro-airplane-thread-only/


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on July 16, 2015, 12:17:39 AM
Roman I am just 14. ;) I have added the link to your thread.


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on July 16, 2015, 12:19:59 AM
You have some great skills.
:thanks: wish to improve on it more. :)


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: romanxdsouza on July 16, 2015, 02:52:28 AM
Kiran you are doin great at this age  :hatsoff: :hatsoff:and that too with micro  :bow:
. all the best buddy lots of seniors here to help just shoot your question  in a pm if you need help. I started this hobby in 2012 learnt a lot here in 3years. Most important ask before you buy anything :giggle: :giggle:


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on July 16, 2015, 07:25:33 AM
Thanks! I have been into this hobby for around 4 years now with the help and great support here at rcindia. :hatsoff: :bow:


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: Sukhpreet on June 03, 2016, 05:47:01 PM
Are you still having the plans ? Can you please email them to me.
And can you please some more info about the coreless motor you used....!


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: kiran rc on June 03, 2016, 07:33:39 PM
Plans @ http://www.airplanesandrockets.com/airplanes/aeronca-7ac-champion-plans-Jan-1968-AAM.htm (http://www.airplanesandrockets.com/airplanes/aeronca-7ac-champion-plans-Jan-1968-AAM.htm)
Motor used- 4mm motor DIY gearbox.
Link for the motor-http://www.banggood.com/DC-3_7V-66000RPM-Wired-Micro-Coreless-Motor-for-Helicopter-Model-Toy-p-1039804.html (http://www.banggood.com/DC-3_7V-66000RPM-Wired-Micro-Coreless-Motor-for-Helicopter-Model-Toy-p-1039804.html)


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: Sukhpreet on June 04, 2016, 09:53:58 AM
Thank you soo much kiran for providing me with such useful information :)


Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes.
Post by: romanxdsouza on June 05, 2016, 05:13:16 AM
Nice site for some micro stuff