Title: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 02:49:32 PM Hello! i am building a micro aeronca champion out of depron for this year's sweepstakes! ;D
Specification going to be. 11 inch wingspan micro pager 4mm with gearbox 70mah 1 cell lipo Hk microsystem receiver(0.65g) magnetic actuator for control surfaces. Starting the build now! :thumbsup: Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 02:53:29 PM Plans printed out and of course,the newspaper ;D
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 03:31:35 PM Progress
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 03:36:01 PM More.Total fuselage weight less than 1 gram!
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 04:07:09 PM Building the fuselage. Sanded the foam to 1mm. Glued the parts using rubber foam safe adhesive.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: Rcjabalpur on June 13, 2015, 04:07:52 PM Very nice , looking forward for the flight .
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 04:10:28 PM @rcjabalpur,Thanks ;D. Will maiden it as soon as I complete it. :)
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 04:14:08 PM Adding strength to fuselage. Small depron pieces are inserted inside the fuselage to add some strength.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: Darshan for multirotors on June 13, 2015, 04:25:35 PM Very nice.. awaiting flight
{:)} :thumbsup: Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 05:41:10 PM Thanks Darshan :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 05:49:33 PM Details.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 06:01:25 PM Cut the wing from 3mm depron and sand it to 1mm. Bend it to make aerofoil shape or even the flat wing works. Bend the centre line to make V shape. This makes it fly much slower and stable. I added a small piece of metal wire to hold the V shape.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 06:05:29 PM Total weight without electronics is just 1.5grams!
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 13, 2015, 07:13:00 PM {:)} {:)} {:)} Most auspicious start to the sweepstakes ;)
Looking forward to the video. I'm sure it will fly fantastic :thumbsup: Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: rcrcnitesh on June 13, 2015, 07:31:49 PM Wow!!!! It's a beauty for sure.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 07:36:26 PM @Sanjay sir, thankyou. Will upload a video for sure. :thumbsup:
@rcnitesh, thankyou. ;) Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: K K Iyer on June 13, 2015, 09:05:40 PM Total weight without electronics is just 1.5grams! Well done. {:)} The Nine Eagles Cessna, 20" wingspan weighs 95gms So you have made a dramatic improvement! Roman, where are you Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 13, 2015, 09:39:07 PM @Iyer sir, yes, these days I am working a lot on micros. ;)
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 14, 2015, 09:30:32 AM Building my own gearbox!
4mm 7ohm motor Tiny piece of balsa Plastic tube Pinion with micro gear Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 14, 2015, 09:45:54 AM Gearbox weight 0.90gram!
Estimating the total weight of the plane. Fuse with wing 1.5grams Gearbox with prop 1.10grams Rx 0.65grams Battery 3grams Actuator 0.20gram Misc 0.30grams Total weight= 6.75g :o Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 14, 2015, 04:20:10 PM Built the mount using balsa 0.75mm.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 15, 2015, 05:44:53 PM Landing gear and rx. Gear made from 1mm metal rod attached on a small piece of balsa.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 15, 2015, 06:44:24 PM Rx and lipo. Lipo is 1cell 70mah. ;D
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 15, 2015, 06:53:19 PM Module to control rx.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: girishsarwal on June 16, 2015, 11:32:18 AM super sweet, would be fun to fly. sub'd
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 16, 2015, 06:53:33 PM Made my own prop with balsa! Comparison with plastic one. Much less weight!
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 16, 2015, 06:57:57 PM Weight comparison.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 16, 2015, 07:05:51 PM Prop mounted on gear.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: Antriksh on June 16, 2015, 08:04:06 PM very nice sir
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: K K Iyer on June 16, 2015, 08:36:07 PM So what is the final all up weight?
Amazed at the low wt you are achieving! May need the plastic prop for efficiency though. I have a hard time getting a 12" chuck glider to be under 10gms... Best wishes. Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: sundaram on June 16, 2015, 11:10:12 PM Wow Nice build. Keenly following it {:)} {:)}
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 17, 2015, 12:05:24 AM Thanks Antriksh :)
@Iyer sir, till now 5.5g may be a little over 6g with glue ;) Efficiency may not be a problem as the plastic prop may be heavier for 4mm gearbox.I just tested with balsa prop its giving nice thrust. Thanks again ;D Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 17, 2015, 12:07:56 AM Thank you Sundaram sir :)
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 17, 2015, 07:40:38 PM Making my own actuator ;D. I used Micro neodymium magnet, copper wire to make it.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 17, 2015, 07:44:08 PM Added wheels too. :D
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: Darshan for multirotors on June 17, 2015, 07:47:30 PM {:)} {:)} awaiting for flight eagerly (:|~
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 17, 2015, 08:06:02 PM Actuator added on tail of plane.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 17, 2015, 08:08:39 PM How does the actuator work?
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 17, 2015, 08:12:51 PM Hello sanjay sir, there is a coil which acts like electromagnet in which there is a small magnet. It works on attraction and repulsion. :)
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 17, 2015, 08:14:45 PM I meant what does it do? Will it control the rudder from your Tx through the Rx?
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 17, 2015, 08:17:13 PM Yes it controls the rudder through TX.Just same as servo. Control on rudder stick.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 17, 2015, 08:20:05 PM :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: rastsaurabh on June 17, 2015, 08:47:49 PM Will it be proportional movement like servo or just flick.
and is it direct connection to RX ? Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 17, 2015, 10:08:18 PM @rastsaurabh
The actuator is fully proportional just like servo moving each points. It flicks only when directly connected to power source.It is so proportional because of rx output. ;) Yes, it is directly connected to rx which is capable of driving the actuator directly. The normal rx requires a converter to hook up an actuator. :) Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 20, 2015, 08:30:18 AM Almost completed. Used a larger gear and prop.Now its giving much better thrust compared to the previous one.:-D
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 20, 2015, 08:36:51 AM Making the battery hatch. 1mm balsa.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 20, 2015, 09:17:11 AM Hatch completed.Mounting left. ;D
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 20, 2015, 09:43:52 AM Completed. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: docnayeem on June 20, 2015, 10:44:34 AM Great work , what's the final AUW , and a close up photograph of the rudder actuator would be appreciated.
Regards Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 20, 2015, 11:53:16 AM Here is the final auw.
And close up of the actuator. Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 20, 2015, 11:54:52 AM I may get a video of it by tomorrow evening :D
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: docnayeem on June 20, 2015, 02:16:16 PM Excellent job ... Thanks
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 20, 2015, 05:48:28 PM :thanks:
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: K K Iyer on June 20, 2015, 07:13:35 PM @kiran rc
I think many of us are waiting to see closeups of your actuators ;D Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 20, 2015, 07:22:04 PM Posted already. Please see #49 reply. :) If everyone needs more closer look I think I need to create a build log for that thing too. ;)
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: manojswizera on June 21, 2015, 05:54:16 PM Great achievement Kiran. So light weight, i can never think also.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: Rcjabalpur on June 21, 2015, 07:21:26 PM Get a video soon kiran , awesome job .
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 22, 2015, 07:59:16 AM It was too windy and rainy yesterday :( Will post the video by next sunday.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 27, 2015, 08:38:26 AM I changed the prop from 3" inch to 4" gws prop. It climbing rate it quite good. Managed to get a video today. :thumbsup: Not enough space indoors. The wind was so strong that it would have carried the plane along with it. It was around 16-20km/h. :-\ I may soon get an outdoor video once the weather turns good and wind speed is low. ;D
https://youtu.be/qXZYgVNKYvQ (https://youtu.be/qXZYgVNKYvQ) Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: sundaram on June 27, 2015, 10:00:26 AM Don't worry about outdoor flight Kiran. For Micro Indoor flight is very much a qualifying flight. Rarely you will be able to fly an under powered micro outside.
Beautiful model and great flight. All the very best. {:)} {:)} :thumbsup: Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 27, 2015, 10:06:00 AM Beautiful model and great flight. All the very best. {:)} {:)} :thumbsup: :thanks: Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 27, 2015, 10:09:25 AM Don't worry about outdoor flight Kiran. For Micro Indoor flight is very much a qualifying flight. Rarely you will be able to fly an under powered micro outside. That's true! It cant be flown in winds.Its just 8 grams. ;)Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: tantragna on June 27, 2015, 12:35:21 PM Wow.. really nice plane! :thumbsup: But did you slam it to the ground at the end of the flight?
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 27, 2015, 02:46:50 PM Wow.. really nice plane! :thumbsup: But did you slam it to the ground at the end of the flight? :thanks: A little hard landing as I have no practice on 2channel planes. ;) To pitch up and down the throttle acts as elevator. But in a 3 channel plane, pitch can be corrected(while landing) on elevator stick. The model is very durable too, doesn't get damaged due to it light weight. ;D Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: rcrcnitesh on June 27, 2015, 03:55:31 PM Nice plane and flight.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 27, 2015, 04:17:05 PM Thanks nitesh :)
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: K K Iyer on June 27, 2015, 05:10:47 PM @kiran rc,
Looks like this the first proof of flight video of 2015 Sweepstakes. Good job, well done {:)} (Since you do not have elevator, try adding a tiny pinch of weight on the tail, to remove that nose down tendency on reducing power) Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 27, 2015, 05:43:16 PM Thanks. Yes I will add a little weight at the tail.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on July 06, 2015, 04:58:46 PM Flew again yesterday. ;D Some 2channel aerobatic and loops! ;)
https://youtu.be/bXqaSpB1dIA (https://youtu.be/bXqaSpB1dIA) Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: rcrcnitesh on July 06, 2015, 05:00:47 PM Superb.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on July 06, 2015, 05:02:35 PM Superb. thanks!Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: sanjayrai55 on July 06, 2015, 05:08:37 PM Very good {:)} {:)} {:)}
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on July 06, 2015, 05:21:36 PM :thanks: Sanjay sir.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: K K Iyer on July 06, 2015, 08:55:33 PM @kiran rc,
I feel so proud of your achievement. A matter of pride for all of us! {:)} {:)} {:)} Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on July 06, 2015, 09:30:44 PM Iyer sir, :hatsoff: :bow:
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: romanxdsouza on July 15, 2015, 10:13:48 PM Total weight without electronics is just 1.5grams! Roman, where are you im around sir took a brake for a bit.....kiran superb build if you dont mind whats you age....? The spot you are flying is is great for indoor wish i had one? You have some great skills kiran...please add your build thread here so all can refer.. http://www.rcindia.org/electric-planes/successfully-flown-micro-airplane-thread-only/ Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on July 16, 2015, 12:17:39 AM Roman I am just 14. ;) I have added the link to your thread.
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on July 16, 2015, 12:19:59 AM You have some great skills. :thanks: wish to improve on it more. :)Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: romanxdsouza on July 16, 2015, 02:52:28 AM Kiran you are doin great at this age :hatsoff: :hatsoff:and that too with micro :bow:
. all the best buddy lots of seniors here to help just shoot your question in a pm if you need help. I started this hobby in 2012 learnt a lot here in 3years. Most important ask before you buy anything :giggle: :giggle: Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on July 16, 2015, 07:25:33 AM Thanks! I have been into this hobby for around 4 years now with the help and great support here at rcindia. :hatsoff: :bow:
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: Sukhpreet on June 03, 2016, 05:47:01 PM Are you still having the plans ? Can you please email them to me.
And can you please some more info about the coreless motor you used....! Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: kiran rc on June 03, 2016, 07:33:39 PM Plans @ http://www.airplanesandrockets.com/airplanes/aeronca-7ac-champion-plans-Jan-1968-AAM.htm (http://www.airplanesandrockets.com/airplanes/aeronca-7ac-champion-plans-Jan-1968-AAM.htm)
Motor used- 4mm motor DIY gearbox. Link for the motor-http://www.banggood.com/DC-3_7V-66000RPM-Wired-Micro-Coreless-Motor-for-Helicopter-Model-Toy-p-1039804.html (http://www.banggood.com/DC-3_7V-66000RPM-Wired-Micro-Coreless-Motor-for-Helicopter-Model-Toy-p-1039804.html) Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: Sukhpreet on June 04, 2016, 09:53:58 AM Thank you soo much kiran for providing me with such useful information :)
Title: Re: Micro Aeronca Champ for 2015, 6th year sweepstakes. Post by: romanxdsouza on June 05, 2016, 05:13:16 AM Nice site for some micro stuff
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