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« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2009, 10:00:50 PM »
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please dont leave i have the last set of pics coming up in a moment
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« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2009, 10:04:16 PM »
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well sai uncle i never thought that that was epp foam anyway finally the pics everyone had been waiting for the plane

enjoy the pics people

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/plane/310520091424.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/plane/310520091425.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/plane/310520091426.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)


and how could i forget the fiberglass fuse boom

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/plane/310520091416.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)


so there you have it people that what i received stay tuned tomorrow and the following day i will be completing my guide thanks for staying tuned
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« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2009, 10:07:14 PM »
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sai uncle i u are online please mail me the instruction manual if you don't have it now please send it first thing in the morning
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« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2009, 10:36:49 PM »
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Hey Subu Grin  Tongue  Tongue

Nice work dude, great pictures. I am excited for you dude, can't wait for your grand build thread.  Tongue

 Grin

You are truly doing a great job, keep up the spirit and dedication.

The next thing we would like to see is you flying mr.moss.

All the best !  Smiley

Cheers

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« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2009, 10:50:44 PM »
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thanks atul bhaiya for suggesting and i will also be doing a crash test Grin Grin Grin to check its durability
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« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2009, 02:22:58 PM »
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hey guys just finished the grand build everything went on smoothly. One place i was stuck to use the servo push rods connectors provided in the kit but i chose the z bend method as beginners would get to know about it. first before starting here is sai uncles guide

http://sites.google.com/site/f22raptorrc/moss/ASSEMBLYINSTRUCTIONSMRMOSS.doc?attredirects=0
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« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2009, 02:23:30 PM »
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stay tuned guys uploading pics might take time
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« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2009, 03:10:16 PM »
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hey guys
the first section of the build i will show you how to complete the wing with the polyhydral and the placement of the carbon rods

so let me begin

first locate these parts
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/wing/010620091427.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

second
locate these smaller bent ones
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/wing/010620091428.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

third open the glue and keep it ready
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/wing/010620091430.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

from the top hole in the main wing the wing is made out of  coroplast so take 12 lines below the upper hole in the main wing
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/wing/010620091444.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/wing/010620091438.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

put some glue on on of the bent rods and push it in the 12th hole
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/wing/010620091432.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

then from the hole at the bottom 8 lines up is the second place where you need to insert the rod
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/wing/010620091429.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

now that you have both bent rods in push in the piece of polyhydral provided (the small yellow squares shown in the first pic)
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/wing/010620091433.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

then apply some fibre tape to make it stiff on both sides
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/wing/010620091434.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/wing/010620091435.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/wing/010620091436.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

now repeat the same steps on the other side  to obtain
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/wing/010620091523.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

next step carbon rod placement in the next post

sorry forgot to tell you cut out the tape joining the main win and polyhydral to the point where the first rod from the front appears otherwise the main wing panel wont bend

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/wing/010620091449.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)
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« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2009, 03:15:08 PM »
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next post will take time though every thing is ready coz i need one hour to complete my assignment sorry but by five i think i will have the whole thing up.
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I noticed in the Photo that you have pushed the  wing too short along the cord in the center  spread it out a bit if so .
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oh actually in this photo it looks that way actually i have checked that thank you sai uncle
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« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2009, 03:24:33 PM »
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hey guys please tell me any changes that i should incorporate in the next posts and also do you feel it is helpful thank you
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« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2009, 04:39:44 PM »
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hey guys i am back this time i shall show you how to install the carbon  rod in the main wing panel.
Sai uncle suggested that you just use glue to stick it to the bottom of the wing. by my ides is to make a incision as long as the carbon tube along the main wing panel and insert it into the slot and glue it and a layer of fibre tape to keep it secure. So lets begin

marking the centre of the carbon rod and marking two dots at the edge of the carbon rod endings. tha carbon rod is placed 21 lines above the bottom hole in the main wing
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/wing/010620091444.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/wing/010620091445.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/wing/010620091446.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)


next step is cut the gap between the two marks which we made and insert the carbon rod in the incision. before that drop some glue to hold it in place. then cover it up with a layer of fibre tape

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/wing/010620091447.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/moss/wing/010620091448.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

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« Reply #38 on: June 01, 2009, 04:48:08 PM »
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hey guys next section will have about fifty photos so please don't worry if it loads slowly and it consists of installing rudder, elevator, control horns, push rods, servos. also might be that it might take me a lot more time as i am uploading all these pics
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hey guys just finished resizing the images so your internet connection does not suffer. the reduction in size reduced the mb's by 12mb's. ohno just a few seconds before the electricity has gone so i need to switch off will post the rest by 6.30pm. please do see next part is soo interesting
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Still there are many images which are similar, and images that are not in good focus. 

I would recommend that you use something like http://webresizer.com to bring the sizes down to reasonable levels, otherwise people on slower connections may wait for a long time for the page to load.
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hey pickle ,
i have just been wondering , arent the flutes of the wing supposed to be parallel to the fuse??
because thats how i made my SPAD... Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh?
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The wing that you have made is folded with a spar inside. It needs to have the flutes in parallel with the fuse. A flat plate wing like the one for the Moss will be floppy if the flutes are parallel with the fuse. Hence the way it is.
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Hi Pickle,
from the photos it seems as if you are mounting the battery, receiver,ESC and other electronics  to the bottom of the fuselage channel instead of mounting them on the top of the fuselage channel. If you continue like this your first flight would be your last flight because all these components would be destroyed on your very first landing because the model has no landing gear . All the on board gear should be mounted on top of the fuselage channel so that they would be out of harms way when you do belly landings.Please pay attention to the building instructions and build according to the assembly instructions. Don't be hasty and build  taking your time and checking and double checking and build true and straight.
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hey pickle ,
i have just been wondering , arent the flutes of the wing supposed to be parallel to the fuse??
because thats how i made my SPAD... Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh?

Hi Guys ,
There are 2 types of Wings this is the uncambered wing and the aerofoiled wing  .
In an aerofoiled wing the  flutes are in the direction of the fuse . mainly because in the case of this wing you have a flat plates below and use the tension of the plastic to  achieve shape 
In the case if this type of wing the flutes are perpendicular to the fuse .

Several MOSS's have flown  over  a couple of hundred sorties with this wing and the wing has not folded or collapsed because the  way  the fuse is inserted and the coro stuck to the fuse  provides the tension and retains shape .

Not all spads have the same construction type , in fact this type of construction will help you to add aileron's to the plane easily  Grin

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Hi Pickle,
from the photos it seems as if you are mounting the battery, receiver,ESC and other electronics  to the bottom of the fuselage channel instead of mounting them on the top of the fuselage channel. If you continue like this your first flight would be your last flight because all these components would be destroyed on your very first landing because the model has no landing gear . All the on board gear should be mounted on top of the fuselage channel so that they would be out of harms way when you do belly landings.Please pay attention to the building instructions and build according to the assembly instructions. Don't be hasty and build  taking your time and checking and double checking and build true and straight.
best wishes
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Hi Subu ,
Mr Rao is 100 % right in his observation please ensure every  part including the servos are mounted on top of the fuse in a horizontal position.
My advice is also dont hurry because you have to post the build on the net take time and understand consequences of your actions.
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Hi Mr. Sai,
want to know the dimensions of the coro sheets used in making the main wing, horizontal and vertical stabilizer, and what is the mm of coro used in this ?
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thanks for suggesting. for everybody's information i have mounted other than rx everything on the upper side actually the battery clips were loose as i wanted to change the battery it tipped downwards. in the final posts of the build you shall see everything the way it has to be. that photo was just taken to show the polyhydral. and should the rx too be mounted up that other than that every thing is mounted on the upper side sorry for the wrong pic i just meant to show the polyhydral. Well anwar bhaiya i will increase focus as my digicam arrived and i will reduce the size a bit more. thank you all for tuning into the thread
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please note the size of the images combined is 1.5 mb so should not take much time)

ok guys the next step is mounting the elevator, rudder, control horns, push rods and servo's. (please note i have used z bends because i did not see that sai uncle had provided push rod connectors  Clap Clap)

first step is to mark the center of the elevator which must be 9 centimeters from the edge. now place the mark on the center on the fuse stick and draw around the stick
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091451.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091452.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

next step is to place your servo(install the servo arm for correct measurement) on the fuse stick. i recommend keeping them 15 cm behind the bottom edge of the wing as the cg is just about right. i tried it also keep the elevator in the same position also mark around the place where you kept the servo.
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091454.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

now put a scale under the servo arm and mark the point on the elevator where the scale touches it look at the pic for info
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091455.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)
 
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091456.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

this place is where you put your control horn
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091458.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

now take a blade and make a incision such that the control horn can fit into it
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091459.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

now insert the control horn in the hole
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091461.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

notice in the image below you see the remaining part of the control horn emerging out
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091462.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

here you need to push in the control horns clip
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091463.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091465.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

applying a bit of anabond will secure it tightly
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091466.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

next step is to stick the elevator to the fuse stick
apply some glue on the elevator and stick it under the fuse stich the place where we marked it
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091468.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091469.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

finished the elevator
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091470.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

now on to the rudder use the same scale trick and insert control horn and stick it on the right side of the fuselage stick. don't forget to mark the servo's position it should be placed after the mark of the elevator servo. mark its position too
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091471.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091472.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091474.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091475.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

control horn with clip installed
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091478.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

now as we marked in the elevator add the glue to the marked area in the rudder
and stick it to the right side of the fuse stick
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091479.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091480.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091481.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)


next step is to add the servo to the tail. be sure to add the servo arm but don't screw it on first center it then screw it on now there are two ways of doing it either you use the straps provided by sai uncle or use anabond. i am using anabond because the straps are being used for battery.

so if you are using anabond method test place the servos on their marked positions then remove them first take elevator servo put a little drop of anabond in the position and place it and hold for a minute and then apply a bit of anabond to the sides
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091482.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091484.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091485.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091486.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)


next step is installation of push rods not much difficult if you use the push rod connector method but i used the z-bend method.

first of all the supplied push rods are cycle spokes i used a wire which has all abilities of cycle spokes but lighter. you can use the connector provided if so skip the z bend step

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091487.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)


First step is to keep the wire between the servo arm and control horn
and mark the point in the wire where it touches the control horn
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091495.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

then take 6 cm extra and mark a point cut the wire or the cycle spokes at that point. for cycle spokes cutting is not necessary as the might be only that long. so mark a point to bend.
next step is to create a z bend
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091491.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091492.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

then insert it into the servo arm.
next step is to mark bend the end point of the wire just a single bend and insert it into the elevator control arm. if the elevator appears to be a bit up or down don't worry just trim it out before flying or bring back or forward the bend .
http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091493.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091496.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091497.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)


do the same steps for the rudder

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091501.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091503.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091506.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)


and you are done.

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091508.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)

http://i635.photobucket.com/albums/uu71/Pikle6/servo/010620091509.jpg
MR. MOSS Glider ARF Kit Step By Step Build Guide (From RCFORALL)



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though the wire appears to be bent it works fabulously using cycle spokes with connectors is recommended. sorry that i did not use that method
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