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In this thread I have tried/will try to to capture the whole exercise of design, construction/build and trimming of scratchbuilt
Requirements
Wanted a good thermal and a slope airplane… not necessarily aerobatic but agile and could stay in the air for a long time.
Structurally wanted maximum use of locally and easily available material. Should be easily transportable. Easy to build.. span around 48” to 50”. Based on previous experience hot wired EPS(thermocole) covered with paper would be chosen construction method. This keeps the weight down and gives a good airfoil adherence.
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•   Decided to do in for a flying wing on basis of lift/weight characteristics and less drag. Though the “wing” of a wing and tail design would have been more efficient, it was not chosen keeping in view wing area vis-à-vis weight  and having a high aspect ratio when working with local materials i.e. EPS (Thermocole) as the construction material. (balsa with covering was out of scope) . Reynold number is estimated would be around/below 80000
Construction method
•   Based on previous experience hot wired EPS(thermocole) covered with paper would be chosen construction method. This keeps the weight down and gives a good airfoil adherence.
Design
•   Did not want to go with an absolute plank design primarily due to pitch response issues when having a high aspect ratio in a ‘wing’ configuration and without having additional trim elements, and also because of tradeoff of  CL with drag.
•   Wanted to keep the sweep angle  at the min required, to have the max effective span and  have the least span wise flow
•   Decided to go in for a elevon induced twist instead of doing in built-in twist, due to structural / construction issues (wanted to have a single airfoil template construction method instead of two template method)
•   Airfoil, wanted to choose a low Reynold number airfoil which maximises CL  and which has minimum CM.  The   CM aspect comes in as one of the design parameters was to have the basic minimum sweep and having no built-in twist in the wing. Based on these,  MH44, MH64, EH2010,Tsagi were shortlisted. Though MH44 would have been most efficient in terms of penetration, lift, CM, there is a construction issue when constructing it with a single template method for the given size i.e. 50” span. The trailing edge becomes very thin and there are high chances of flutter. Hence a airfoil with a decent amount of material near the trailing edge was chosen, hence Tsagi.
•   Ideally would want to have a ‘pusher’ design to ensure that the wings ride clean undisturbed air. However keeping in view CG issues with my existing motors, btys available the option of having a ‘puller’ was also kept open till the last minute… i.e till such time the wing was completely made.
•   The above necessitated a podded fuselage which would aerodynamically house the motor, esc, bty and Rx. And also provide sufficient leeway in achieving the correct CG, without having to have dead weight, by forward/rearward placement of the bty.
•   The above also gives the possibility to convert  from a 3 channel (throttle, elevon ( aileron& elevator)) to a 4 channel (throttle, elevon ( aileron& elevator), and rudder). This would be helpful in thermalling.  Though it would mean of having to go in only for a ‘puller’ design if wing tip mounted split rudders were not used (wing tip mounted split rudders were ruled out because of complications)
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Construction Details
Wing
•   The airfoil being generated using ‘profili-22’

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•   The printout pasted on thin formica sheet and cut using scissors. It was reinforced with fibre tape to prevent splitting of the formica sheet. A leading edge snout (scrap cf) was added to help in lead-in the cutting wire

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•   the wing blanks were cut out of thermocole foam using hot wire. Note the wire guides which are used to keep the cut vertical. The wire is pulled down by the weight of the cutter itself and the guides ensure it is a straight vertical cut… see the hot wire cutter in the photograph.. it is made in such a way so that it is adjustable to accommodate a 24” or a 36” or a 48” cutting wire (obviously the current being different for different length and controlled through a rheostat.. basically a fan regulator)

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•   Before sticking the templates a datum line needs to be drawn on the foam. Later on when sticking the templates to the foam the cord line of the templates will be aligned to this datum line. This ensures that the templates are correctly aligned on the foam block.
•   The templates were stuck on to the foam block using double sided tape … ensure that the cord line is aligned to the datum line drawn on the foam and after they are stuck there  is no play..

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•   This is my simple set-up to cut single template wings. It is basically a piece of thick ply with a hole at one end to accommodate a screw. A strong cord is tied to the screw and the other end secured to the cutting wire. The other end of the cutting wire has a handle attached to it. This handle is just a piece of wood which helps in pulling the wire to keep it straight and guiding it over the template
•   This is a close up of the screw .. note the height adjustment of the cord attachment.. this is important .. the cord should be attached at a height which is equal to the height of the cord line when measured from the base of foam block.

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•   The distance between the foam block and the screw where the wire is attached is such that the screw should be a few mm behind where the line extending the leading edge and the trailing edge meet. .. THIS IS IMP.. to ensure that the hot wire exits across the trailing edge at the same time. This is vital to ensure that the trailing edge is proper and there is no kerf.
•   The cutting in progress. It starts off at the leading edge, the snout helps in the initial alignment of the hot wire.  Ensure that the hot wire just floats over the profile. Ensure that the wire is straight.. no lags… it should not be pulled…it should be guided.. ensure that the wire does not snag on the template (that is why the template profile needs to be sanded to a very smooth finish). Extra care needs to be taken when the wire is near the edge of the trailing edge. The hotwire SHOULD exit the trailing edge at the same time. Ensure that the hotwire does snag /pulled back at any stage…. The photograph shows me supporting the electrical wire to ensure this
•   I cut the upper and lower surfaces without moving the foam block.. however  this is not necessary and left to individual preference… for me I did not want to go through the process of realigning the blocks again and again.

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Is there a ready made foam cutter wire set up avilable in India ??
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Rahulroy Clap this is a on hand tutorial for novice like me.
Qn why are you keeping weight on top of sheet?
I saw those Americans just doing without it
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•   The wing cores out of the blocks…. Keep the left over pieces.. they help a lot in acting as a jig for further cutting/grooving the wing cores.
•   The wing cores would require some light sanding to remove rough edges /ridges … notice the difference in the trailing edge thickness at the root and tip... this is due to the hight/thickness tapering which automatically happens when using single template method of cutting wing cores ... and also some due to kerf due to hotwire

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•   The wing root is then recut to ensure that when rejoined, the sweep angle is at 18 degrees. Also the tips are recut so that the tips are parallel to the root or 90 degrees to span… in fact there is a 1 degree toe-in to ensure that the tip winglets have a 1 degree toe-in.  this, is done for more yaw stability .. in case tip winglets are used
•   The wing has one 3mm CF as a spar and two small CF strips near the tips .. the extra stiffness near the tips would help in reducing flutter and also prevent aileron reversal.
•   The wing with the spar fitted/ being fitted… I use Araldite TUFF FIX / Fevicol 1K PUR for sticking most of foam surfaces

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the weights are kept to ensure that the foam block does not move during the entire cutting process.. because if it moves there is a high chance of ruining your whole work
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Excellent work Rahul... i see you are not a novice and have a good workbench you've even made a decent hot wire cutter...
May be its your first try at wings but what do you do or make otherwise.

Highly impressed by your work...which plane you are making and do you plan to cover the wings with .... vinyl, paper or monocote...?

Any technique for creating grooves for CF rod... or just the hot wire grove?
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Excellent. Keep posting progress.
Looked at your profile but did not find your age!
Just curious that's all.
Wonder how many of us know that we are typically flying below 100,000 Re.
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@ratssaurabh

By no means is this is first wing cut. He is a seasoned DIY builder and his wing cores come out exceptionally well . I had the honor of owing and flying one of his planes which had a hot wired wing. Flew it without power..on a slope..and it was an amazing feeling.

His creations are something you marvel at.
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That is exactly I meant to write his work is exceptional but the topic boss mentioned was misleading.......experiment with scratch built......

Please post your pics of finished crafts....
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Beautiful build..
the wings came out so nicely. in pic 19 .its looks perfect airfoil.
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It is a own desig, 47" span, root cord 10", Tip cord 5", Sweep 7.25"

The wing will be brushed with thinned down fevicole and covered with wet paper (newspaper to precise) and then painted with acrylic colour

the groove is cut with a soldering iron ... just drawing the soldering iron tip over a strainght line forms a nice groove.. just ensure it does not stay at one place for a long time.. keep it moving constantly
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  • here are some pictures of the wing before covering.... the leading and trailing edge has been reinforced with fiber tape
  • ... hopefully will be able to cover the wing today... will post the pics

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Hello Rahul..Great work as always..

My two cents..The cf rods if placed in an A shape on the wing, give a stronger bond to the entire wing..

C u at the field..
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  • Covered the wing yesterday ..
  • normal newspaper was used for covering (it is more tear resistant..longer fibers, than many kraft papers and hence provides good stiffness and strenght)... glue used is fevicole thinned with 50% water so that it flows easily
  • the paper is cut with some overhang on all sides
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  • Now comes the messy part... this part requires patience... good kraft skills helps
  • the thinned down glue is brushed on to the foam wing.... i do this in four parts.. one side, one pannel at a time
  • the paper is aligned with the leading/trailing edge and then wetted with a plant watering sprinkler... earlier I used to dip the paper in water to make it wet, however in that method, most of the time the wet paper used to tear during alignment... hence switched to just aligning the dry paper, thereafter it is throughly wetted with the sprinkler before laying it and pasting it onto the foam.... ensure that there are no air pockets..
  • the overhangs are rolled on to the other side and glued down... this would require some trimming/slitting to ensure that it sticks properly across curved surfaces
  • this is like old time paper covering of balsa.... all those skills and knowledge helps
  • please pardon the background of the pics... since it is messy i do it in a place where it has the least impact and can be cleaned quicky
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  • the process is repeated for all the wing panels... and the complete wing covered
  • the wing at this stage would seem very very heavy.... do not worry, that is because of all the water.. as it dries up it will become light and stiff
  • a pic of the wet covered wing left to dry
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  • the wing after the over night drying... no wraps.. very light and stiff... and perfect airfoil
  • ... a tip.. first cover the top side of the wing.... this is because if there is a wrap dure to shrinkage of the paper you would have a natural dihedral... (and shrinkage will always be there.. in fact the covering is taunt and without wrinkles because of the shrinkage)... if you want anhedral cover the bottom first.. this is due to the fact that the surface covered first dries up first and hence also shrinks first
  • .. also it better to let the wing dry in shade .... i.e. slowly... fast drying could lead to wraps (due to uneven wetting and associated shrinkage)
  • ....next stage is fixing the elevons and then painting (acrylic pait would also make it water resistant.... need some information .. how do you make water based acrylics opaque Huh?...i do not want the newspaper prints to be visible
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excellent work rahul... one query ... will the fevicol stick on the fiber tape on the leading and training edge.

is this the delta Wing plane or you will make fuse and feathers as well....

For me also its the same place to do such work including sanding of thermacol.
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