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« on: February 25, 2014, 01:31:27 PM »
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fully aerobatic frame made in my factory

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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2014, 01:33:14 PM »
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wing span    1000mm
length        1000mm

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flying weight    500gm

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fly indoor and out door

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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2014, 03:04:22 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2014, 03:39:22 PM »
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Great .... Is it coro  or foam
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« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2014, 07:22:24 PM »
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Its 8mm depron and its very light and tough.
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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2014, 07:30:24 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2014, 07:48:45 PM »
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In test flight it is made fell from 100 meter height and it came successful there was no damage, I have full proof video.
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2014, 08:01:21 PM »
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Cool!  Clap

It hovers great. Only, I had to tilt my head while watching!
Great build!  Hats Off
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2014, 08:29:37 PM »
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Thnx swapnil. It made in quantity for sale.
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I was challenged by my friends that it won't hover in windy but I did it. I have many more model made in my factory including scale models.
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Thnx swapnil. It made in quantity for sale.

Sale? What's the pricing?

I was challenged by my friends that it won't hover in windy but I did it. I have many more model made in my factory including scale models.

Good work man! I wish I had depron available locally, hovering a coro plane is really difficult.
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2014, 08:37:22 PM »
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Nop I have made extra 300 of coro unbreakable kit it hover perfectly.
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For pricing and specification plz call me 09819991737
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Nop I have made extra 300 of coro unbreakable kit it hover perfectly.

Of-course it did, you are a pro!
I just re-watched your video, great take-off and landing. Wish you'd posted a high-res, rotated video so we could enjoy the aerial acrobatics.
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« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2014, 09:29:12 PM »
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Bro wen I recorded it was perfect but after uploading I got rotate.
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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2014, 10:40:20 PM »
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For pricing and specification plz call me 09819991737

Please put up prices, as per forum rules. Thanks.
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« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2014, 04:04:51 AM »
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Please mention its price. Excellent plane to buy.
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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2014, 08:07:41 AM »
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Bro this plane I have design only for one of my client in bulk.  So I can't post publicly for sale here but don't wory if many are interested I will sure quote the price but for specification  only pm.
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« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2014, 12:10:16 PM »
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Nice plane, Kewal
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If anyone want this plane design(38"), i can mail you.
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Sir,
please mail me design on suril_1995@yahoo.co.in.
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sbach  not assembled.

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all three kits

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« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2014, 01:53:49 AM »
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Sir pls mail me the design too for the sbach

Mail - official.devang@gmail.com
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If anyone want this plane design(38"), i can mail you.
Hello Sir,
Please email me design. ravulapalliarun@gmail.com
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Are you willing to sell one kit and how much
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Very nice and attractive model kits.... one query have to put some Carbon fiber or the depron itself is quite strong?
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Very nice and attractive model kits.... one query have to put some Carbon fiber or the depron itself is quite strong?
sir carbon fiber is included in hardware set.
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Sir, will have to say... very nice and neatly build. Clap Clap
Kindly mail me the designs of all three on utkarshg13@gmail.com
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i m very sorry i cannot send u design if u want design its available on internet. this design and combination is only made for sale.complete frame modelling  done for my one of my regular client for bulk order so i cannot share some design publicly except my customer. if u want some alternative plans i can sent u , i have 1000 of designs.   some design personally  builted tested.
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If many guys are interest in buying than according to forum I have start new thread on sale.
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Please mail me the Design @ kriss.cat@gmail.com
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If many guys are interest in buying than according to forum I have start new thread on sale.

Seems like you are marketing and trying to sell a product, and not doing it by following forum rules in terms of posting public pricing etc. This is clear from your reply #14 (http://www.rcindia.org/electric-planes/my-new-3d-sbach-made-in-my-factory/msg173356/#msg173356)

If you are selling this, please open a thread on the "For Sale" board.  Asking people to PM you for specifications sounds very fishy, although you may have absolutely no bad intentions. 

Being transparent is for everyone's good, including yours.
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[Admin Note] Unnecessary quote of just prior post removed. Please use "Reply" (or the "Quick Reply" box at the bottom) instead of using "Quote" while responding to the last post in a thread.

sir in replay 40 I have already specified that if many r intrested than only I will list on sale because right now all the kits are already sold and for new orders I needs to manufacture in bulk again.
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I don't think you will have any problem selling it if you build a limited set (like 100 pieces), with necessary hardware.  Now I am not sure if 100 is "bulk enough" for you.  If this product is good enough, some LHSes would  possibly be also interested in buying bulk from you and selling it.

But for any of this to work, you have post exactly what you will sell (with all hardware bits), and give some indication of pricing.

The way you are doing it now, you are just confusing the audience with "possible sale of a item where neither the product nor even the approximate price is clear".
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Sir for me 50 to 100 kits is also a bulk order.but my 1 order was of 300 kits .  Sir this kits are much cheaper compare to market price. Money is only for precious cutting an finishing and successful product.
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Sir if u want to see pictures of frames and hardware set than I can email u its very interesting project and I have many model design too for sale.
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Kewal -

My brotherly advise to you...

1. Please ALWAYS answer to the point.  There were two things in my earlier post. What quantity do you consider "bulk" (which you have answered), and what is the approximate price (post the maximum, you can always discount later), which you have NOT answered.

2. You do not have to repeat you have many model designs in every other post. We all know 1000s of plans are available on the net.  This kind of repetition honestly reduces people's confidence in you, and will have a direct impact on how you are trying to help this hobby.

3. All of us would totally encourage low cost "made in mera Bharat mahaan" model. But you are always beating around the bush with "look how great I am" posts, instead of posting detailed specifications and prices.

I hope you get my point, and my intention behind being frank with you.   
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Sir I have always respected u as u made such good forum for Rc lover. Sir intentionally I didnot mentioned the price before as this is not the sale thread. For listing price , detail and specification I have start a new thread in sale as per the forum rules. If u insist I would definetly start a new thread on sale with price and product details.
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Reading through all replies and respecting Anwar and Kewal, i think there is a mis understanding. Kewal- I would suggest if you are looking to sell something please start the thread in For Sale. If you want to share your build with understanding forum members will ask for details of the build and willingness to share then continue here. I understand you need bulk order to cost effectively manufactuer. If it is so, then you can either manufacture in bulk and then try to sell it or like the local tablet sellers do, you can do a pre order and judge what would be your order size.
Either way, if you are looking to sell you have to take some investment risk.
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@kewal kalsaria
Since one of your videos shows the HobbyKing video, i presume that you are the supplier.
If so, congratulations on breaking Chinese monopoly.
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@ km iyer sir thank you for complement but unfortunately I m not suplyer for hobbyking. I wish to break monopoly of Chinese products but its only possible with all buyers support. Sir this kit are quoted with much cheaper price.
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Still there is no clarity about the price tag yet. Hmmm...So will have to wait till the new thread is created....
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@kewal kalsaria
If you are not the supplier,
WHY DID YOU PUT HOBBYKING VIDEO ON YOUR THREAD?
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@ kk iyer video was just posted for entertainment perpous and and show wat stunts we can perform on 3d sbach with good flying skill.
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I understand you need bulk order to cost effectively manufactuer. If it is so, then you can either manufacture in bulk and then try to sell it or like the local tablet sellers do, you can do a pre order and judge what would be your order size.

Pradesh I am totally agree with your suggestion that I can go for preorder and judge the order size it will be beneficial for manufacturing in bulk. Thank you again .
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If you manufactured 300 pieces for someone, is that an international entity, or a private local (within India) organization ?  Not looking for names, just curious.

The last time you tried to sell something here, it had no hardware, and the hardware you posted pics on this thread look really nice. Can you confirm you are getting all this hardware manufactured locally ?
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@anwar sir my client is an aeromoderal in Mumbai and he wants to give 3d flying practice to there student so he wants cheap local made airframe and hardwares. The kits include 3 airframe + 1 hardware kits so the same electronics set and hardware kits can be use for other kit after crash. So on low budget one can learn 3d flying no need to waste lots of money on heavy products.
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That sounds great !

Asking again, are you getting every bit of the hardware manufactured locally as well ?
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Thank you sir. Sir some products are bought from lhs some are made in my uncle's factory. Sir can I share something ?
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You don't have to take anyone's permission to share anything here, this is an open forum. What is troublesome is you not sharing enough.
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@anwar sir as we know many pnf and rtf rc models are available worldwide and in india too. so the point is from what the models buyers suffer from?
1) they cannot replace many spare of there airframe after to crash.
2)after the electronic damage due to crash they could not make the same combination, if they come withe new electronic combinations than they could not get the same performance as before, specially in the case of motor,ese size compare to weight ratio. reason  is the combination given in ready models come with good efficiency compare to there size and weight ratio.
3) for beginners it is very difficult to buys new models every time after crash.
all this point leads to Chinese manufacturer's monopoly.

my question is can India break Chinese monopoly? if not than we can at least try in some extent.

so keeping in view to all the point i started building crash proof models,folding models(so we can store easily ),folding models  in cheap rates and the spares  can be easily available in lhs. for example during crash if only one wing is damage than u can buy a single wing of same . 



 
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« Reply #62 on: March 03, 2014, 11:38:20 PM »
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So I have not seen any PNF and ARF models from you for sale here. Only the talk about it, which I have to openly say is getting quite repetitive and beginning to feel like selling vaporware.

All you tried to sell so far was a foam (not sure what kind) kit without any hardware.  With such type of offers, it is not unusual that people either build themselves or buy from the Chinese, because they will get a well tested model.

What is holding you back from building a small quantity of ARFs (with hardware) ? If you can make quality ones at reasonable prices, there will always be a market for those in our vast country.

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sir the problem is shipping i will list so many product than i will not get time to ship all at a time as i m busy in my main business. so its only prefer for local pickup. and i have listed two pnf model before u can check again or may be thread will be deleted. sir there is no issue in building small quantity of arf with hard ware buy study of demand is must. in this thread kits shipped easly but minimum order should be of 3 kits and 1 hardware set if requires for convenience shipping . than i provide building video and electronic combination specification. shall i post the price?
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You should post price for what you plan to sell, no one is asking you to do anything against your will/comfort.  The only problematic things is constant discussion about what is possible, but not actually implemented.

And do that on the For Sale board, if you really plan to go ahead with this.
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Definitely I would like to post on sale sir but before that want to make demand of such a stuff on our forum. So I would like to stat thread in the way of preorder before manufacturing some approx quantity of kits. Thanks for your kindly support.
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