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Title: Motor stops above half throttle
Post by: vivekr on April 03, 2010, 05:30:19 PM
  I'm a student from College of Engineering Pune, INDIA. I'm using your EMAX HL2215 450 Brushless motor and Emax 35 A ESC.

I'm facing some problems:

1. When I attach a 8V Li-Ion battery and 8*6 propeller to the motor, it works well up til HALF the THROTTLE. Then when I try to increase the throttle further, Motor makes some strange noise and stops.

If I try to run the motor without the propeller, it runs well throughout the throttle.

2. My other observation is , with the propeller motor takes 3A current till half throttle. then suddenly the speed drops but motor keeps on taking 4A current.

Please Help Me out of this.


Title: Re: Motor stops above half throttle
Post by: rcdhamaka on April 03, 2010, 06:31:50 PM
Vivek,

Can you please be specific from where you have bought the motor, as we do not sell the EMAX HL2215 (Heli motor).

Also please note that the motor needs 3s-4s lipo. i.e. 11.1V to 14.8V

The ESC is 40A minimum 

Team RCD


Title: Re: Motor stops above half throttle
Post by: rcforall on April 03, 2010, 07:01:55 PM
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1. When I attach a 8V Li-Ion battery and 8*6 propeller to the motor, it works well up til HALF the THROTTLE. Then when I try to increase the throttle further, Motor makes some strange noise and stops.

If I try to run the motor without the propeller, it runs well throughout the throttle.


Vivek ,
Your  problem is   when load ( prop ) is applied to the motor it stops , without load ( prop ) it runs fine  .
The answer to the problem as per me lies in your problem itself  the Amp Draw is Increasing beyond 1/2 throttle  beyond the capacity of the system to deliver .

Your battery  you have said is 8 V  but have not stated the Capacity and the discharge rate of the battery  so we cannot  be specific of the answer .
Theoretically the calculation will be as follows  :

( MAH rating of battery / 1000 ) x discharge rate ( C) = Amps  battery is capable of delivering .

Eg a 1000 mah battery of 25 c can deliver at Theoretically 25 amps which will actually be around 22 amps practically .

Hence if this  is  exceeded in terms of Amps Drawn by your power system  then the  ESC will shut it down to prevent damage .

The Other option is the ESC 's capacity might  be  exceeded , but my hunch is it is not the case  I suspect the Batteries capacity to deliver is being  Maxed

I hope this helps

sai
 


Title: Re: Motor stops above half throttle
Post by: vivekr on April 04, 2010, 10:11:26 PM
Vivek,

Can you please be specific from where you have bought the motor, as we do not sell the EMAX HL2215 (Heli motor).

Also please note that the motor needs 3s-4s lipo. i.e. 11.1V to 14.8V

The ESC is 40A minimum 

Team RCD
i have brought that motor from Servo Electronics Mumbai.
 i ordered the combo pack of bldc(EMAX CF2822),esc(EMAX 18 Amp),prop(9*5) n prop saver from u(RC Dhamaka).
Will u able to tell me some experience or review about this package?
Characteristics of that motor n data sheet or manual of esc?
How much time it will take for delivery in pune?u don't have pusher propellers.i need pair of pusher n tractor propellers for my quadrotor project.Will u able to help me???


Title: Re: Motor stops above half throttle
Post by: vivekr on April 04, 2010, 10:44:01 PM
Your battery  you have said is 8 V  but have not stated the Capacity and the discharge rate of the battery  so we cannot  be specific of the answer .

The Other option is the ESC 's capacity might  be  exceeded , but my hunch is it is not the case  I suspect the Batteries capacity to deliver is being  Maxed
Thanks for ur suggestion Sai.
But right now i dont know the battery capacity.but i'll check it with ur suggested calculations n also i'll try my system with two 12 v battery in parallel.n tell u what happens.
Yesterday i connected that esc (Emax 35amp) to another bldc(not Emax another brand dont know name),we got the same result motor stops with some strange noise n stops after half throttle.
then i thought prob is with Esc.So i connect that another bldc's esc(10 Amp) to Emax bldc(no load) then that was unable to run the motor properly but current drawn is too much around 6 amp or more.so it heat up....
But with Emax bldc+Emax esc 35 amp this combination motor runs fine without prop n takes 4 amp of current at full throttle which is well below the 35 amp capacity of esc n also belw 10 amp.   
So im very much confused.im not understanding problem is with esc or motor or both.


Title: Re: Motor stops above half throttle
Post by: kartikshah on April 05, 2010, 08:18:14 AM
i ordered the combo pack of bldc(EMAX CF2822),esc(EMAX 18 Amp),prop(9*5) n prop saver from u(RC Dhamaka).

The prop will be 9x6 and not 9x5 do not come up with your own figures.

Characteristics of that motor n data sheet or manual of esc?
How much time it will take for delivery in pune?u don't have pusher propellers.i need pair of pusher n tractor propellers for my quadrotor project.Will u able to help me???

The manual of the esc comes with the ECS.
Once you make payment the order will leave our office and within 2 days it will reach PUNE BY COURIER as already informed to you over the phone.

 


Title: Re: Motor stops above half throttle
Post by: vivekr on April 05, 2010, 09:52:49 PM
The prop will be 9x6 and not 9x5 do not come up with your own figures.
sorry for that.
tell me some experience or review about combo package?


Title: Re: Motor stops above half throttle
Post by: jnsahil on August 16, 2016, 08:22:32 PM
hey i m also facing same problem but my motor was working with 6070 props but as i connect 8045 props