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RC Equipments => Electric Power => Topic started by: ved on May 01, 2011, 12:48:15 PM



Title: Problem with Setup
Post by: ved on May 01, 2011, 12:48:15 PM
Hi Guys,
 I have a Turnigy Bell 2409 1600 KV motor and HK 25A ESC. Two month ago when i bought the motor and ESC, when I connect them and connect the battery,the motor produced a loud long beep and started to work.But few days ago when I connected the ESC to the motor and connected the battery, no beep was produced and also the ESC was getting very hot after few seconds.But when I go close to the motor some beep sounds were heard.But the motor didn't work at all. :banghead: So please help me :help:


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: SunLikeStar on May 01, 2011, 12:53:12 PM
Have you tried a different motor with this esc?
Are you able to rotate the motor shaft with hand, i mean is it free?


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: ved on May 01, 2011, 12:55:43 PM
Yes. The shaft is free.


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: spitfire on May 01, 2011, 12:56:21 PM
Check if the wiring of motor is all right. 3 wires which come out of coiling of motor sometime break down due to stretching of wire. In this case motor sometimes make little sound but doesn't work.


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: ved on May 01, 2011, 01:00:23 PM
They are all right.


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: spitfire on May 01, 2011, 01:02:58 PM
Try different ESC and motor combination.
Then we can see if problem is in motor or ESC.


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: ved on May 01, 2011, 01:05:09 PM
I dont have more ESC or motor


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: ved on May 01, 2011, 01:09:51 PM
Please help


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: spitfire on May 01, 2011, 01:29:47 PM
Try setting throttle range for ESC. It works for me sometime when motor is not responding


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: ved on May 01, 2011, 01:30:47 PM
The ESC is not programmable


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: spitfire on May 01, 2011, 01:41:44 PM
Where did you buy ESC? Can you post the link?


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: ved on May 01, 2011, 01:46:16 PM
The link
 http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6460 (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6460)


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: spitfire on May 01, 2011, 01:50:31 PM
You should be able to set throttle range with this ESC. Read the reviews of this ESC on above link. Procedure is given there. Give it a try.


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: ved on May 01, 2011, 01:53:28 PM
Thanks a lot Spitfire.I will try and tell you later


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: ved on May 03, 2011, 02:45:36 PM
Another problem after throttle ranging.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJatkGNWUro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJatkGNWUro)

Also the motor and ESC gets hot.
Please help :help: :help: :help: :help:


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: ved on May 03, 2011, 02:53:22 PM
please


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: SunLikeStar on May 03, 2011, 02:57:30 PM
If your motor and ESC are good then this can happen because of three reasons:
Lose connection/solder between motor and esc.
Wires/connectors on the motor are getting short.
Something stuck in the motor.


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: foamybuilder on May 03, 2011, 02:57:58 PM
1. How have you soldered the bullet connectors? Have you removed the coating(golden coating) of the wires and then connected ?
2. Heatshring usually hides if there is loose soldering, just remove the heatshrink and check again.


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: ved on May 03, 2011, 03:03:05 PM
Connections are OK


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: SunLikeStar on May 03, 2011, 03:04:44 PM
How are you sure about that, put up some details? Seeing that video of yours every one is going to ask you this question.


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: ved on May 03, 2011, 03:18:42 PM
I have just now opwned the heat shrink and saw.


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: akky on May 03, 2011, 03:22:28 PM
do u notice your bullet connectors also ...they are exposed and have high chances of getting short any burning your esc....you have to insulate they using heat shrink tube ..never leave them exposed


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: ved on May 03, 2011, 03:23:44 PM
ok


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: SunLikeStar on May 03, 2011, 03:30:44 PM
 :o Not good!
Ved be very careful, dont leave any connections open. This is very dangerous, ESC's and batteries burn like diwali fireworks, Annar to be specific.


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: anwar on May 03, 2011, 03:37:10 PM
Wonder if the damage due to short circuit is already done :(  It was a bad idea to leave connectors like that, at least a layer of any type of tape would have afforded some protection.


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: ved on May 03, 2011, 03:40:25 PM
While taking the video,I have covered them with a cello tape.


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: vineet on May 03, 2011, 04:06:40 PM
may be the esc is short circut already , try another


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: SunLikeStar on May 03, 2011, 04:23:19 PM
I still feel that one of your connection to the motor is bad.
Do this; take out one motor connector and try again, if motor stops moving then re connect and take out other connector. Out of the three there will be one connector which will have no effect when disconnected. Resolder everything again on that wire.


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: ved on May 03, 2011, 04:25:28 PM
ok


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: prateek13 on May 07, 2011, 12:50:48 PM
Today Vedant had come to my house to test the motor.
We found that some of the wirings in the motor had broken.
when we connected the motor and esc and the battery the esc got very very hot,and finally was in flames and burnt in front of us!

RIP esc


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: ved on May 07, 2011, 02:28:05 PM
Please Guys


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: SunLikeStar on May 07, 2011, 02:30:11 PM
Please Guys

Please what ???

Damn!! RIPESC. But why did you connect it when you knew it had broken wiring ???


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: ved on May 07, 2011, 02:33:53 PM
We found it later.


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: SunLikeStar on May 07, 2011, 02:39:55 PM
Ok! so whats the plan now. I guess you'll have to buy new motor and ESC, it wont be a good idea to risk another ESC on a broken motor.


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: ved on May 07, 2011, 02:47:22 PM
Yes. I am going to buy a new motor and ESC


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: rajathv8 on May 07, 2011, 06:05:56 PM
This is definately a connector problem! Just wish i had seen this earlier.
The exact same thing happened to me - i removed bullet connectors on all 3 wires and soldered directly to ESc and it worked fine. Remember if the motor wriggles ONE OR MORE WIRES ARE NOT GETTING POWER!!!

http://www.rcindia.org/beginners-zone/fried-motor/

My video is the same as yours :(


Title: Re: Problem with Setup
Post by: ganeev on June 22, 2011, 05:18:24 PM
yes they are right, touching up of any 2 of the 3 wires of motor when the circuit is on, can lead to a bad damage of "esc". moreover if lipos are connected this might result in fire.....
plz be safe.........