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« on: January 17, 2011, 03:27:49 PM »
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For all you AXN fans out there, putting my AXN Floater jet on sale as im collecting some cash for my next plane.Done about 10 flights on this one.
Fuselage bottom fibreglassed for extra precaution and crash ressistance.I would reccommend any beginner to buy this plane as i found it ideal to
develope some your flying skills.The plane has all the electronics mounted onboard,only needed is your own tx/rx and battery pack.
The reason i recommend this plane for beginners or even skilled pilots seeking some relaxed flying is that u get more time in the air due to its
glider/jet plane like combined qualities...even does loops beautifully.Can take mild crashes beautifully and even hard ones..i had crashed it once dose down
but to my surprise i could repair it using some foam glue and tape..still flying as beautifully as ever.Attaching a pic for your reference..will be puttingup sum more
pics soon..quoted price=1900 rs.+shipping(not negotiable coz i got this through ems parcel service and paid almost double for this jet)any queries are welcome.

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AXN FLOATER JET for SALE!!!!!
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2011, 03:32:06 PM »
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Hi

I will take it..Need to see some more pics of the fuselage and please let me know of any more damage to it.

Pm your no.

cheers

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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2011, 03:32:21 PM »
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PM Sent. please post some more pics
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2011, 03:33:59 PM »
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Hope I sent PM before Atul Smiley....otherwise no issues, you may decide whome to give.
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2011, 03:34:52 PM »
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I will take it..
I knew it  Thumbs Up
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2011, 03:36:30 PM »
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lol dude Cheesy I was looking for a floater since quite some time..

Oh I guess we have a tie here..Your call flying_g..


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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2011, 03:37:32 PM »
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Yeah same here..... Giggle
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lol..it would be better for you both to decide inbetween yourself...i want to sell it anyways...
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or lets see who can quote a higher price;-)
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2011, 03:40:55 PM »
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Atul  Grin....... want to have a toss ? Thumbs Up Giggle
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Why dont we toss after we see the close up pics of this plane ? Cheesy
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or lets see who can quote a higher price;-)
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2011, 03:46:20 PM »
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I agree...cose-up picturs plz.....
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Quite a dilemma..There should be some kind of a rule for a situation like this Tongue
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Ya, ture...as I was looking for a glider for quite some time now.... I need it as desperately as you. I jumped on this when i saw this post...like you do... can moderater help us by using some photofinish type technique....his decision will be final and accepted. Bow
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lol..it would be better for you both to decide inbetween yourself...i want to sell it anyways...

Just look at the timing of the reply and PM, and go with whoever came in first Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2011, 03:54:24 PM »
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flying_g ..please help me with the my PM timing as I cant see mysent PMs.
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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2011, 04:01:29 PM »
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.............. Smiley...................
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Just look at the timing of the reply and PM, and go with whoever came in first Smiley

If there is a tie still thereafter... go by need basis. A Student like guy who cannot easily order through Credit card should get preference. I hope I am not offending others...
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You are right Ujjwaana Smiley

But I just got a pm from asingh that mr.flying_g is selling of the plane to some of his friend who has agreed to pay him a higher amount.

So there you go..
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Actually it's not about the product or price, it’s not even about need.....because this is hobby and the not living. If anybody wants to sell a product only to needy then he/she should mention it in the post itself, so that non-needy people will not bid.

All I have to say that ....it’s about commitment..... You kept a ceiling price and all of a sudden you got an offer above your ceiling....and you forgot all the commitments. I have no  issues with anybody just want to say ...commitment is really important it’s not just a word but it describe your personality, especially when you move out from personal walls and interact with outside world..... 
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Nope.  Unless it is committed to someone (either in public or via PM), the seller is at complete discretion on what to do with it, including removing it from sale alltogether. But once a commitment is made, we need to be "men" (more than being "gentlemen").
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Anwar, he made an public offer and we accepted it (it was not an invitation to offer, it is a clear offer with ceiling price mentioned), now after our written acceptance, if he is saying no no I will not sell, do you this is ok.

Anwar it may happen with every sale happening on this open forum....that someone post the sale item and after some one agree to buy it....he may revoke his acceptance. If this is fine with all reading here. Who am I to go against majority.
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asinghatiya..with all due respect to you..i never even mentioned that i would be giving this away to sum1 needy,secondly,at the moment the needy
person is me as im collecting money for my next plane which happens to be an expensive model..talking about my personality,i gave u a chance since u had sent me the PM first so lets not get personal.Iv explained myself.
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Beleive me I am not getting personal my dear friend and I also understand your situation...but this is an open forum and I am discussing a situation, which may happen everytime someone put his product for sale on this forum.
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I am in complete agreement with asinghatiya on this issue.  A price WAS quoted and accepted. Totally unfair and unprincipled to back out then.

BTW I do not know any of the parties involved.
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i see nothing wrong in selling it at a higher price if offered for the same.my quote said 1900(not negotiable) which obviously means nothing less than that but could be anything more than the same.
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Beleive me my friend no body in this world will negotiate with you to pay a higher price.
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Anwar, he made an public offer and we accepted it (it was not an invitation to offer, it is a clear offer with ceiling price mentioned), now after our written acceptance, if he is saying no no I will not sell, do you this is ok.

He offered the lowest price he will go (buy anything higher is open, and he even mentioned that), you accepted at the lowest... did he acknowledge and reserve the item for you ?  I don't see that in this case, and THAT is my point. Once that is done by the seller, that is a point of no-return.
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Wow quite a commotion..

Hmm I don't see anything mentioned that you can buy for a higher price. I guess the post was misleading, you should have mentioned that its a bidding and the lowest price is x amount..

Anyways..I think the seller should fix an amount on the forum if he is really interested in selling it..

Whoever wants to buy will buy it..rite ?
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He offered the lowest price he will go (buy anything higher is open, and he even mentioned that), you accepted at the lowest... did he acknowledge and reserve the item for you ?  I don't see that in this case, and THAT is my point. Once that is done by the seller, that is a point of no-return.

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It is a seller's discretion, if he have not committed to sell, that whom he want to sell, Who will not sell to a person, who want to pay more.
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Sure, I have already accepted that if majority on this forum accept this ...who am I to question this. BTW his price was a ceiling (not lowest) price for him.

All I want to say, sellers should think twice about the price before posting a product here and in-case If they have higher offers they should keep it transparent on the forum and let others also know the real process happening.  

Anyways, I quit.

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As far as MY thinking goes, "lowest price" would mean that he is not willing to bargain. In short, that is/was his final, non negotiable price.  Nowhere has he indicated that it is open to auction/bidding. And therefore definitely misleading.
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I agree with Sushil, this looks like a auction with a starting amount.
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thanx for understanding and putting THE point across anwar..Its an OPEN forum and ppl have the right to sell their items at their free will.when the buyers were arguing as to who should desrve to buy the plane since both of them had showed interest together,i got a higher offer from a third party,is that my fault?.lastly and most important i did not commit anything to you and also had the courtesy to ask you guys and tell you whats happening,anyways..the plane is sold already.
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Plane already sold Giggle Giggle Giggle Giggle Giggle

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As far as MY thinking goes, "lowest price" would mean that he is not willing to bargain. In short, that is/was his final, non negotiable price.  Nowhere has he indicated that it is open to auction/bidding. And therefore definitely misleading.

He mentioned the lowest he will go, non-negotiably. He meant he will not allow bargaining for a lower price. That meant nothing about going higher.  If you assumed that as the final price, I would not hold the seller responsible for it.

Have you considered the case if no one offered higher ?  He would have committed to selling it to the first person who offered his lowest price.  I would not hold the seller responsible for what others "read into" his words.

My whole point is about commitment.  He did NOT commit to anyone. And that is what matters. 
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On a lighter vein, this does show that someone like Fly-RC should really get a bunch of these to India Giggle
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Accepted administrator almighty Bow.... you are the creater of this forum (virtual world).
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This is the type of "fun" one can have when you have a truly OPEN forum. 

I am sorry if my stand seems undigestible to anyone... but on all issues, I try to put myself in both shoes before taking a stand. I can easily be convinced to change my stand, but I don't see anything of that sort in this case. 

And please treat my opinion as just another person here, being the admin does not mean anything I say carries more value than anyone else, in an issue like this.
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He mentioned the lowest he will go, non-negotiably. He meant he will not allow bargaining for a lower price. That meant nothing about going higher.  If you assumed that as the final price, I would not hold the seller responsible for it.

And my whole point is about things implied. I would not like to consider the forum as a court where technicalities hold sway.
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I would have agreed partly to that, except for this :

http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/axn-floater-jet-for-sale!!!!!/msg45947/#msg45947

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yeah, these can finally bring combat flying in India Smiley
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I already am seeing a lot of combat on this thread w/o a plane! y need those planes for combat?  Grin
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