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« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2012, 04:52:10 PM »
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Lol.... second_chance .... its not Dev its Shadman .... and his frustration is because of the undermentioned thread

http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale-completed/futaba-7c-radio-for-sale-6269/

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« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2012, 04:57:27 PM »
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wow 3 pages of head bangers Bang Head

divay lets call him Dev Sahib for now  Grin   the transition sounds nice from his previous avatar  Cool
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« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2012, 05:01:30 PM »
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Ok now the motive is also clear ... good investigation by Divay and Admin Sir
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« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2012, 05:02:23 PM »
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hahahah +1 second_chance ..
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« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2012, 05:02:58 PM »
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« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2012, 05:51:43 PM »
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    shadman_alam is online right now and having a look at this
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this guy is obviously a ******
and as mentioned by divay sir he is Shadman alam
and for registration he is using this email id
: divay_puri@yahoo.in
investigating further
wait aa minute

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« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2012, 06:06:49 PM »
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Saahil -  Where you use "*"s or not, your language on the forum is getting broder line. Please refrain from using such language, and amend the above post. 

I am going to edit a few posts earlier in this thread that also exhibit the same problem.  We will have zero tolerance on this. 
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« Reply #33 on: October 18, 2012, 06:09:58 PM »
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Okay now i got the point look at this thread
dated : July 11, 2011, 01:25:11 AM

http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale-completed/futaba-7c-radio-for-sale-6269/msg70682/#msg70682

and the reply made by divay sir over here

I would agree with crazy ... i could arrange a NIB futaba 7c for approx 19k.... i see no point in buying a second hand for 16k.... also please remember u have no clue as to whether the receiver has recd any internal damage from a crash, handling etc ... i have myself witnessed the perfect of looking receiver having range faults after a crash.... a new receiver in such a case would set you back by 6k....

it appears that he felt very offended with this
post which he had kept those grudges in mind
and now this.

that ****** he was online right now.
might be having a look at this thread.
people like him are a disgrace to this forum.



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Saahil -  Where you use "*"s or not, your language on the forum is getting broder line. Please refrain from using such language, and amend the above post. 

I am going to edit a few posts earlier in this thread that also exhibit the same problem.  We will have zero tolerance on this. 

anwar sir made the corrections.  Huh? Huh?
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« Reply #35 on: October 18, 2012, 06:16:35 PM »
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Thank you Smiley

PS: Amended a few posts in this thread, starting here : http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/for-sale-brand-new-dji-wookong-m/msg118461/#msg118461
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« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2012, 06:26:41 PM »
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sir u planning to ban "dev" profile as this is the second profile of Shadman alam
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« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2012, 06:43:02 PM »
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Let us not continue this discussion, and focus on the sale alone.

Everything that needs to be said about the duplicate account has been said, and I do not expect further activity from the said account.
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« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2012, 06:45:15 PM »
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 Shocked Can't believe it was so old rage, this long time could be memorized to build something good.

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Let us not continue this discussion, and focus on the sale alone.
Everything that needs to be said about the duplicate account has been said, and I do not expect further activity from the said account.
as said by anwar sir  Sleepy


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« Reply #40 on: October 18, 2012, 08:47:18 PM »
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 Wow.. great interpretation !! And what a genius u guys are right!! SAW the same IP so its me!!.. high skool retards..
 Then we have the great forum pageturners n decision makers commenting .. "In your faces "... I dont need to justify to any of you sick souls.. N Mr Divay u got it all wrong man.. Even i prefer giving  u head on replys.. like in past.. This wasnt me but yes i did watch it happen!!

Mr Sahil,Second_Chance,and rest all bafoons .. "get a life!!" .... least bothered with this forum.. all that happens here is sick sales..  Mr SAhIl .. u shud meet me sometimes.. may b next flying meet.. i ll feed some manners into you..


and secondly Mr Divay ... Please get your fact n figures right before you accuse people.. AND PLEASE GET THIS BOOK "DATA COMMUNICATION and NETWORKING" by BEHROUZ A FOROUZAN.. 


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shadman .... get a life bro .... i rest my case ... dont want to say anything more .... Sahil calm down its not worth it ......
Sir anandparanjape  thank you ... Anwar I appreciate your time ....
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« Reply #42 on: October 18, 2012, 10:37:44 PM »
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Saahil - Please remove the name calling. If you think calling people names makes you macho, think again. You can refer to people's attitudes, but not call them names here on the forum.

Now, back to the matter of "dev". I hate having to type all this crap below !

The sequence of events, to the best of my recollection, is as follows :

I was not paying attention to this thread, and had missed this back-and-forth between divay, "dev" and anandparanjpe". I started looking at the thread after I got a PM from Divay saying "I have a feeling that shadman_alam and Dev are the same person ... can you please check if you have a way...".

So I looked at "dev"s profile, which is the screenshot that Divay posted.  Now, having spent a few years in and out of the US data-centers of one of world's biggest computer manufacturers in a previous life (plus having an MS in CS from a US university, which is marginally better than "high school"!), I know very well that an IP address is not a foolproof way of identifying anyone.  But of course, law enforcement all over the world does that all the time, and there are cases where the defendants have successfully challenged it in courts.  OK, back to the topic. So there are pretty much 4 reasons why two accounts here can come from the same IP.

Reason 1 :  They ISP uses a proxy through which all their client traffic is routed. The ISP is SpectraNet and they own the whole 180.151.*.* subnet.  So I checked if others are coming from this range, and I see many many people posting here from a variety of class-C subnets this range (if it is just 2 or 3 IPs only, then it is also possible that they are using multiple proxies), so it can be concluded that they are showing the actual client IPs in connections.

Reason 2 :  The PC is shared by multiple people.  This is a possibility, but what are the chances of that happening, and the other user also has accounts to settle with this particular member here ?

Reason 3 :  The IP is randomly obtained by another user of the same ISP.  Again, what are the chances of that happening ALONG with the same user creating an account here and trying to settle scores ?

Reason 4 :  It is the same person ! 

Since I sincerely felt, within reason,  that it is the same person, I forwarded the screenshot to Divay. Again, what are the chances of Divay suspecting someone, and by pulling up the IP address of a random account here (up until that point) point to the same suspect ?  I will let the audience judge.

I would have had a bit more respect (and doubt about my thought process so far) if the member just said "you guys are mistaken, it was not me genuinely", instead of the rant about how everyone else are retards, and this forum is only for "sales" (if had one rupee for every time I heard that ! Wink ).  And I am not going to elaborate on how/what this member and others have tried/done to change that image of the forum.

People come and go ! We will be here, as long as possible.

   
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Exactly if some one genuinely mistaken they would be very polite in clearing the misunderstanding .

But there is a lot of evidence thats points out that these are not just a coincidence.
The fact that both are in bangalore,both are registered to RCindia forums,both are using the same IP or the same ISP.And the fact that the user "dev" started out is first post with a single target in mind and with accompanied tone.
I am 99.99% sure that these two users are the same person.

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Please do not comment further. Let this die. 

There is more to this than what has been posted in public, and the affected party may choose to divulge the details if desired.

Divay, please start another thread for sale of this item.  This has been gored !
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Exactly if some one genuinely mistaken they would be very polite in clearing the misunderstanding .

But there is a lot of evidence thats points out that these are not just a coincidence.
The fact that both are in bangalore,both are registered to RCindia forums,both are using the same IP or the same ISP.And the fact that the user "dev" started out is first post with a single target in mind and with accompanied tone.
I am 99.99% sure that these two users are the same person.



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Sure Anwar .... Thanks....
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On second thoughts Anwar ... I guess I don't want to start another thread... if a genuine buyer needs it he would go for it ... cheers mate
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As you wish. The only issue is that if you "bump" it later, and someone sees it the first time, he will have to read through a lot.

I would say move this thread to the "For Sale - Completed" board, and leave it *unlocked*.  Then start a fresh one.
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