RC India

Just to let other forum members know that it would be wise to be vary careful in buying from "unknown" entities. I am reproducing my last PM to one "gurtejtoor" sent on the 14th of this month . There has been no response from him and the silence speaks loud enough. The amount involved is a pittance and I have given it considerable thought before deciding to go public.  At the very least, it could bring out suggestions to minimise such incidents, in future.

Hello

I have received the parcel after a wait of 6 weeks and have the following comments to make:

1. Only 4 servos were sent instead of 5.
2. Two of these do not have arms or servo plugs.
3. The arm screws are missing.
4. Two odd wheels, or whatever, have been included, for what, I do not know.

Please arrange to send the 5th servo complete with plug and arm along with the 2 missing arms and 2 servo leads/plugs. Actually one would expect the set of arms that come with the servos but will not insist on those.

Do respond within 48 hours or I will assume you have no interest in redressal of this complaint.

Sushil Anand

Deeply saddened to see this :( 

Please make every effort to describe the items anyone wants to sell (to prevent the buyers from getting nasty surprises), and always follow "The Golden Rule" :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Rule

This is his description of the servos:


the servos are used once and all the horns are new and never used , the wires of servos were extended to use in my plane as earlier were too short , else every thing is fine , the weight of extra wire is only 2.5g , you can remove them if not require to reduce the extra weight....

The delivered products - asides from being one short - do not conform to this.

Similar has been in my case too  :banghead:
would not name the person (not any LhS)
But cant help it .............. :(
Next time go in for new one for a few more  :thumbsup: than a used one
regards
Rajaram Shenoy
09845069090

For the benefit of the community, I guess you should disclose the identity.

Absolutely. Particularly if Rajaram has - like in my case - made an attempt to get direct redressal.

This is an OPEN forum, and that involves privileges and responsibilities equally. 

If there are complaints about trades, I will request members to use the "Trader Feedback" option to leave detailed negative feedback, AND post the names/issues in public after reasonable attempts to dissolve the issue amicably via PMs.   

Please note the other party has equal opportunity to express their side of the story.

I hate to say this, but "naming and shaming" does work !

Yes Anwar. That is why I have said he should do so if he has tried to resolve the issue directly. You are well aware of the attempts, in my case. It ook me some time to decide but, ultimately, felt it HAD to be done.

And I presume you have missed out the "not" in your last line! Or  ;D

i did not attempt to redress
The main reason being i had got the product when i just started and did not have knowledge about it ,(some 10 months back ) later through a fellow member i came to know that the product was defective... :banghead:
Any ways the amount involved was not more so just ignored the matter
But now i am more wiser in this line  ;)

Nope, what I wrote is EXACTLY what I meant (although it gives me no pleasure/pride in saying that :( )

An update.

I got down to redo the missing connectors etc, with new servo leads. Horror of horrors! Find one servo with a stripped gear, two judder at the extremes. One is usable.

Bottom line: INR 750 and much wasted energy + time for one used (HXT 900) servo and some spare parts!

Mr. Gurtejtoor, did making a quick few hundred rupees mean that much to you?

Anwar. Saying this gives me no pleasure either

All this for a few hundred rupees ? In this day and age ?  Has greed zoomed past shame ? :(

I sincerely hope that the other members all see this, and refrain from such conduct. It takes a fraction of a second in your mind to put yourself in the receiving end of something like this :banghead:  Everyone should use the "Trader Feedback" system to comment about their dealing with others, so a history can be built up.

PS: Since the user accused has been logging into the forum but has not responded here, I would take that as an admission of the charges.

why not there be a system of buyer rating as well
will help the seller in assessing the buyers as well..
just a suggestion

u can submit feedback as both buyre and seller.

then the best way is to give each other the rating and then lock the sale / wanted thread
what say ??
This type of system is followed on ebay

I always submit  a trade count.

We did nt do it for our last trade. Lets do it now, i have submitted a feedback for u, your chance dear.

One could give a rating only after the deal is done and the material received/checked. The thread will, perforce, have to be closed when the payment has been made.

Yes. The seller could give a rating earlier, which would mainly pertain to the speed of payment after closure.

After reading this, I am totally in fever of Feedback system. Even the administrator should make the feedback system more strict like one in ebay where you can see the names of buyers and their comments too...

Well, As I am less experienced from almost all of members who posted in this topic. So, sorry if I suggested something wrong here. But it would really help people to make good decisions about their next purchase. After all I also sold my items to three members from rcindia and they are happy with the deal and it reflects on the feedback too.

Thank you...
 :salute:

I really liked your suggestion.
Arpit

I am confused... you can see anyones trader feedback in their profile, and when you click on the "feedback score", it will take you to the detailed comments including the details of who made the feedback.  Is this not what you are looking for ?

Feedback submission should be stricter or mandatory after every for sale topic locking. Not exactly what i mean but atleast i gave u a rough idea.

While I see your point, I always want to have RC India as a place which minimizes the number of "mandatory" things !  We want this to be a cordial easy-to-use place, where getting things done is the core concern.  The only thing I would like to see is for members to not abuse the "Quote" option, while responding to the last post in a thread (the "qoute" is there already in the post above, why the heck are people quoting it again !?!? :banghead: )  We are small enough to not put added bureaucracy to this.

BTW, on the US stores and even on eBay, leaving a feedback is optional. They do encourage it by sending reminder emails etc, but it still is NOT mandatory.

In the interest of full disclosure...

http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/rc-stuff-for-sale-!!!-3523/msg45768/#msg45768 (http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/rc-stuff-for-sale-!!!-3523/msg45768/#msg45768)


This is why I disabled the option of being able to edit old posts, even in the classifieds section. 

No where in the sale thread (http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/rc-stuff-for-sale-!!!-3523/ (http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/rc-stuff-for-sale-!!!-3523/)) are the problems noted by sushil_anand in the beginning of this thread are clarified, there is only a mention about wires being cut, only after someone brought it up !  The seller many contest this, if he sees otherwise... but please do point to things like where you specified that the servos has stripped gear etc.

As the thread says ....

Sold three engines to above person


Its been two months.. and he still has not paid inspite of repeated
reminders.

Yes ... I know that I should have waited until he paid but I sent the
engines as a gesture of good faith and he confirmed that he has received them.
Following are his contact details ... posted as a caution to persons who plan to
transact with him in future.

[Admin Note] Contact details removed, as issue is resolved.
 

what engines did u sell Saikat?

seriously it is time that we take measures like paisa pay in ebay
Next Time i want to Sell anything then i would use Ebay

this is getting to be a serious issue here... i happen to know this guy as my hometown is mysore...will try to contact him...

Sounds like a genuine case, it should get resolved amicably. 

But sending items before receiving the money should always be frowned upon, especially if the buyer urges the same.

Do you still have courier slip ? did the courier reported successful delivery at door step ? If so, please go ahead and file a former police complaint. If not full  recovery, he would would end up being troubled by the Mysore police and end up paying something.

Thanks for all the concern

> Engines sold were 2 cox .049 and one AP.06

> Yes I have the courier slip and yes the package was delivered.


   

Fraud Season, ??? Supposed to be a winter month, AC on full blow, top it all, these guys, I tell you!!

Had got a query from this guy for depron sheets long back. Called me many times but he dint buy from ebay.
Luckily dint sell him  :)
This is the reason I prefer ebay even though they take 5% commission, transaction will be flawless

I may have something to add to this line of buyer and sellers.
I am just waiting to ensure that my money is in the bank before I rate the seller negatively

I see that the thread title has been edited -

A misnomer as "Caveat Emptor"  in its literal form
does not fit my situation as I am the seller (or in this case donator/giver)

I merged into an existing thread about Classifieds issues.  It was already a sticky thread, thereby ensuring some level of visibility to anyone coming to the "For Sale" board.

I think I will change the thread name to something like "Beware of dealing with these people" or something to that effect :headscratch:

Here is my experience of dealing with Mr. Edgeman (on the forum)
The gentleman advertised a Kavan planetary gear starter for sale along with a Lipo pack (later vide post #7), The starter was said to be used only twice and in pristine condition. Have a look at the thread.
http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/kavan-planetary-gear-german-starter-and-hitec-servos-nib/
The gentleman also posted the link to Kavan site for the specs of the item for sale.
http://www.kavanrc.com/cgi-bin/dpsmart.exe/IndexText/F0650E.html?E+Kav
Now if you see the link you would see, the specs are satrter with universal NiCd holder.
The quoted price for the starter and Lipo was 8200.
I sent the gentleman a PM where I wanted only the starter and not the the Lipo. I offered 5K for starter alone. I was persuaded that if I took the Lipo as well, the entire package would be offered for 6K. I plumped for the deal.
Transfered the amount to sellers account
A few days later while following up on the item the seller accidently disclosed that the starter did not come with the NiCd holder. He even insisted that I was under wrong impression. When checked again and pointed out, it was said that it was mistake on his part to post the wrong link.
I asked the seller to cancel the deal and refund my money, suddenly the seller was very defensive and argumentative, my bad that I did not sense a rat then. The seller further offered to reduce the sale price by 1K and send the items.
In few days I received the package, it had the starter, the LiPo pack and a cheque for 1K.
On inspecting the contents, the starter was in bad shape, badly scrtached, the croc clips badly rusted and the starter could not even crank up my 2 T 90 engine.
The used LiPo was absued one, wires resoldered, shrink wrap was local and had enough dog hairs inside the transparent shrink wrap. I did not even want to connect that pack to anything.

I took relevant pictures and contacted the seller asking for full refund . All this was done after I had safely shipped back the items back to him and was sure that it must be about to reach the seller.

Had to follow up various times to get my money back, for some strange reason the seller was not ready to do a online transfer or account deposit, he insisted on sending a cheque the old fashioned way.
Any way the cheque was received finally and deposited im my account.

Kudos to the the seller for atleast agreeing to refund and take things back.
But what irks me is why do people misrepresent things.
Have pictures which I woud post later tonight/early tomorrow

Beware of dealing with Edgeman   

confirming the payment b4 shipping the item will avoid everything.

In response to post # 36
How ??
for the last two cases brought out here, the payments were sent before items were shipped, the buyers got lemon

I told tat from seller's side..For the engine's case.

My experience with Mr. Edgeman had been equally bad and I feel I was stupid to have not seen the pictures before I made the deal with him.

"Os 46 FX only 5 to7 tanks used in mint condition" ------------Engine fairly used. Throttle jammed
Slimline pitts muffler for OS 46

"2.5 inch Alumunium spinner with adaptor" ------------ Spinner cracked. Threads on spinner bolt worn out

APC and Wodden props various sizes all for for 46 engine
Fuel tank
"Coolpower synthetic oil 1 litre" ---------------- Oil just about 750 ml in an opened bottle

Hotshot glow booster with charger -------------Battery doesn't hold chargeHobbico electric fuel pump

Great  Planes Quick fuel filler -----------------Mounting nut missing. Without the nut can't use the fuel filler

Hobbico Volt Watch Battery monitor

46 size fibre glass adjustable mount with hardware ------ No hardware. I was told to buy it from the local hardware store


Beware of dealing with Mr Edgeman.
Infact I feel no deal should go through without actual photographs.
It would be great if the feedback was entered into the sellers profile after every sale.
Flying Boxcar, I urge you to enter a feedback for the dubious seller.
Regards to all
Doc

Flying doc
I beleive if you would have given him the appropriate feedback I would have been saved the trouble.
I was waiting for my cheque to clear before leaving feedback for our friend. I have done that already

Here are the pics of the stuff I had received

I have always been asking people to leave feedback after sales.  In the comments, please post a link to the "For Sale" item also.

Classifieds sales here have not only helped many people get into the hobby, but also have given birth to new LHSes too. I earnestly consider it as a true accomplishment, regardless of all the criticism I have had to face over "too much commercial talk". 

We will NOT let a few bad apples ruin it for everyone...  PERIOD ! 

It is amazing how people conveniently forget the golden rule : "Do not wish for others what you do not wish for yourself" :(

I had done that as soon as the starter post had come out. I don't know where it has gone.
I'll put it again.
Hope no one has to go through this again
Doc 

Dear Administrator Sir,

Every thought of creating a publicly viewable Black List? Any member / LHS who has  negative comments (not negative ratings) posted against him by a minimum of 3 different buyers (the number of buyers / comments may vary, as per your dsicretion) deserves a dishonourable mention in the list. This may serve as a warning / caution for all newbies entering into a financial deal with them. Once this is in place, all such bounty hunters would stop treating this forum as a place to make a fast buck.

Since we have already have a + Rating / - Rating in place, implementing this (as a Ready Reckoner) should not be a problem.

Just a suggestion.

Sometimes a seller may cross the line and may well be just a cheat. Why not remove them from the forum and "remember" them and any contacts in a "avoid-these" list.

Any list can be fooled.  But if we maintain a list of peoples names and addresses (not just forum usernames), that will help.  I am open to creating such a list (even on the first post of this thread).

Legal action would really make an example out of someone, barring the hassle.

Linking into this thread... as it is another case of classifieds gone wrong.

http://www.rcindia.org/rc-outlets-and-resellers/tiger-60-with-os-61-from-madhavan-yumy-cub-maker-(www-aerotec-co-in)/

about Mr Edgeman,

Some more light on the matter.

initially, i spoke to him for OS 46 engine and the mount and some knick knacks, we agreed for 7k (What was i thinking ???) i sent my man with the money all the way, and when contacted, he says "I have changed my mind it is now 8k" exactly like it happened with VC, sometime ago.

I suspected if it is the same bloke and sent a PM to VC, to come out with it, we still do not know who it was, atleast now we are lil bold in coming out with it, i really thank divay for that, for emboldening us, through his "radio thread" :salute:

augustinev sir, SPECIAL OFFER FOR YOU.....

10 CHANNEL FUTABA ... BEST PRICE .... PAPER THIN...

CAN BE CARRIED IN UR POCKET ...

AND GUESS WHAT ... THIS IS THE BEST PRICE.....

Divay pls reserve it for me :giggle:

  :giggle:

One Paper thin 10 CH FUTABA reserved for Krish... will be sent via fax... >:D

I would suggest, that we keep the information on this pertinent, so that people who visit and are contemplating to sell or buy can check on appropriate information, rather than trawl through numerous posts which has no bearing on the subject.

Today Mr. Irshad finally decided to pay up.

So money received ... no more issues.


case closed

Irshad!!, Irshad, ,, When will my man Madhavan reciprocate ?

 I am sorry Mr saikat.....
i didn wanted to do that,
i requested twice for your account details before shipping those engines again after getting those engines it took 10 days for you to provide payment details.....
after that i was busy ....
 I got marreid..

Congrats man, wish you a happy married life :thumbsup:

hell i asked you to provide your shop details,
wanted to collect  those sheets personally but you didn........
you told me to purchase 10 sheets together.
as i wntd only 5 sheets.
wat do you mean '''Luckily dint sell him  :)'''''

You bought a engine and you got married ??? , i really wish you use those engines, ask married people and their RC flying hobby,,don't go well man.....all the best

Yep, I was right :) It sounded from the beginning that this was either a communication issue or a personal situation/busy-ness issue.

Had sent the address sir, both through sms and through PM here.

Sorry Anwar - and I have said this before - busyness is, at best, an excuse, and not a valid reason that can be justified.

My intention was not to condone the delay... I only expected this to be resolved amicably (leaving a bad aftertaste none the less).

Saikat,

Do you have some more such "Lucky Engines" (:|~ >:D especially designed for married people.   I would like to buy one engine first.  If the trick works, will buy few more at a later date. >:D ;D :giggle:

Dreamliner, I am married and  I have a  few such lucky engines especially for you. Send me your money!!!

Capt.,  

I know that you do collect engines.   I hope, that the ultimate  "luck"  ;D does not turnout to be a vintage one.

Thanks for the support guys.

M.Irshad - I've no wish to split hairs on the matter , since you have paid.

Dear All,

When reading this thread I was not surprised at all. First of all I would like to share only my experience which may help others. No offence to anybody. Like others, I had a very bad experience trusting people and getting cheated but I have not come so far with anyone who deals in this hobby who could take someone for a ride.

I believe 100% that someone who loves this hobby will never ever take anyone for a ride. Some people who claim to sell something and out of interest of only making money have nothing to do with this hobby.

They are just money maker who don't have any respect or what so ever for this hobby or nor for themselves. This type of people cheat and have a sound sleep but destiny will look upon them one day in a ugly way. What you do to others will be paid back with interest in a matter of time. This if you believe in GOD and I had seeing things happen.

Anyway, my advice is always speak to the seller first and enquire in detail regarding what he is selling and ask questions. If you THINK he couldn't explain to YOU what he is selling then I think you should avoid such people as hobby lovers who sells here will know most of the things what they sell as people in this hobby are intelligent and don't buy something that they don't understand well.

So Please when buying something from someone here ASK Q's.

Also for seller...simply don't take a buyers word for granted. Ask him Q's for what purpose he wants to buy from you..I will not personally sell my RC items to some one who have no connection with this hobby… I sell so others can use it when I don’t need it. Money is not everything…This hobby have its own respect.

Dear Fellow members...this is my thoughts and I wrote here so it may help someone who may either buy or sell here...and no offence here to anyone as I have all respect for people in this forum. :salute:

P.S. Please post the picture of what you sell. I made a mistake first time here not posting the picture of the items what I wanted to sell. :'(

For buyers…. Please ask Q's………..stay away if you think he could not explain what he sells or not reliable enough to talk straight forward…. Hope this helps!  ??? :headscratch:

Please be aware of this seller too...  this issue is still unresolved :

http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/brand-new-5230kv-inrunner-brushless-motor-for-sale/msg62753/#msg62753

Mr Dhiraj yet to pay up, i am still waiting, like i am for mr madhavan

Well, Dhiraj & I did a Successful deal (http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/4-brushless-motors-and-4-esc's-suitable-for-quadrotor-for-sale/), he sent the stuff, i paid after i recd the stuff, however he continued his tryst with cheating

thank you sir for your feedback.

And i have got a kind of character certificate from Augustine Sir now and i am sorry for whatever happened because of the circumstances
through which i have suffered.
But after all everything is fine. 

some suggestions..... writing this after reading fist page of this thread.
the registration form should contain 1. ADDRESS  2.phone no. and should be made mandatory.
after registration there should be verification of phone no. like sending a code via msg and entering it for first login
this would help in getting right phone no.

this is quite late.but i thought this might solve some part of problem....

amit

I need 10 sheets of 5mm thickness ...
Can you give me information regarding the payment and bills ...
My location is Dhanbad , Jharkhand nd Pincode is 826001
Please tell me the total cost for my desired depron sheets to be shipped to my given address!!

beware of dealing with Mr Pradeep of www.pvamodels.in. (http://www.pvamodels.com/)

please read post
http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/beware-of-dealing-with-mr-pradeep-www-pvamodels-in/msg110623/#msg110623

Hallo
All members to rcindia forum.Just 3 weeks before i bought the listed items
4-gt motors
5-esc(4nos 30amp,And 1 Nos. 20amp)
the deal was done in 3500+shipping
When i received the package i just got the 4 motors and 4 Esc (30amp) the 20 amp was missing and in motors the X mounts were missing accept 1.
I was trying to call him but now he was just fooling me that remained parts were send or shipping likewise.
Anwar sir im requesting you plz lookout this kind of problems so further in future no one get problems while dealling.
http://www.rediffmail.com/cgi-bin/red.cgi?red=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ercindia%2Eorg%2Findex%2Ephp%3Ftopic%3D9615%2Enew
So for future view be careful this kind of peoples.


Thank you

Whats with the rediffmail link?

http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/4-motors-and-4-esc-'s-for-quadcopter-for-sale/msg70097/#msg70097

http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/seagull-arising-star/msg95805/#msg95805

http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale-completed/best-quad-frame-one-time-investment-no-breakage-worries/25/


ahem ahem

This person seems to have lots of negative feedback already, should have dealt with caution.  You can add your feedback here :

http://www.rcindia.org/trader/?sa=submit;id=2395

Be sure to put a link to your post in your feedback, so others can locate the exact problems :

http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/beware-of-dealing-with-these-people/msg111496/#msg111496

Some people participate in the US forums like RCGroups, so leaving feedback there would also have some impact.

wingman4ever

Hemanthguru has long tryst with cheating and fooling people, like anwar bhai said he post in US forums too (Again trying to sell stuff), so you need to post your feedbacks there as well. some people are incorrigible, our man is one of them.

Anwar Bhai

I think he has gone too far, my recommendation is to ban Mr Hemanthguru

I thought of that... but there are two issues.

1.  We have not heard his side of the story.

2.  People can always create new accounts... at least there is feedback to be related to the same account now.

But why isn't he giving his version? That becomes an admission of guilt, by default.

rcpilotacro sir already posted that thread..sorry that by mistake i had put that rediffmail thread...

The said member has not logged in since Sept 6th.  That could be the reason... it could also be intentional that he has not logged in.

Discussing the same on Facebook (with an audience of the aggravator or his contacts/friends) is yet another way to seek out a resolution... made possible by the digital era we are living in.

i had also brought motors and ESC form this person....

he promised me 7 motors, 6 esc's and a  tricopter frame...
i received 6 motors and 6 esc  and a broken frame

i had a conversation before dealing that the motors are like new and i will get them as i would get them from HK with all accessories, that come in pack

the motors were in very bad shape, vibrated a lot, the shaft was cut off, the nut and the washer were local pickup and not the orig...

i called him for the replacement of the booms(frame) and the motor he was suppoe to send... also for the motors and the condition..... and asked for a refund... he insisted that he cant give a refund as he does not have enough cash and will send me the motor and the booms

he gave me false tracking ID on 2 occasions for which he replied that he was out of town and some one els is sending it for him....

he did not receive my calls for around 2 weeks... but when i called from other no, he would pick up, act as if he was in hurry.. would say he would call back... and never did.... his reason for the 2 weeks delay was that he's friend met with and accident in blore and he was there...

finally i got the motor and the booms, but as promised he did not give the ones i had asked for.. and said he will send it soon.... that soon has never come yet...!!

he has also started his own website for multirotors...! http://www.brainwing.in
the site shows location mumbai... but he is in davangere/karnataka

all of all most of the case it is solved( reworked the motors and they are working fine) but a bitter experience

his contact no:+919902222294

I just spoke to him for the first time ever (I have had no dealing with him, whatsoever) and told him that my advice was to clear EVERYTHING on the forum. Vague excuses were dished out and he "promised to do so by Monday".

So, could we consider that a deadline for a possible - or actually mandatory -blacklisting?

There is a complaint against Mr Sandeep Bajare in this thread, read it and make your own decisions

http://www.rcindia.org/rc-outlets-and-resellers/bad-experience-in-dealing-with-mr-sandeep-bajare-from-pune/

@Gusty Sir, i think it's too early to write Mr. Sandeep Bajare name here.

1. it was just an experience while dealing, the deal never completed.
2. still Mr. Sandeep Bajare has to respond on that thread (if he likes to)
3. the deal discussion was offline and not online (i am not sure if it matters)
4. this is the first feedback for him as such. he still have 6 +ve trade counts.  http://www.rcindia.org/index.php?action=trader&id=152
5. no monetary loss happen to anyone till now dealing with him online.

I am not on any of the side, but this is what i personally feel.

Anand

1. The thread quotes his name,
2. Nothing derogatory has been said
3. He has been active after immediately after the thread has been posted and hopefully has seen it. Why didn’t he post a rebuttal is a mystery
4. IMHO he should post his rebuttal, at both the places if he wishes to.
5. Demeaning somebody is worse than cheating, if you go to 'xyz' person, be ready to be ill treated that's what it means. if i know this fact about somebody, even if he is giving stuff for free (not that i require any) i won’t go close to him.
6. Discussion was offline, and posted by S_K not knowing what will be repercussions on him, that is quite courageous.

All these aspects were considered over in these two days by me, and like I always say, I am an eternal student, ready to learn all the time and will eat humble pie anytime, and apologise to anybody if I make a mistake, including this case

I too feel its too early to incl Sandeep in this thread. This thread contains names of ppl who have cheated others. We don't know what exactly happened in this case. May be the buyer was low balling or something which the seller did not like and choose not to go ahead with the deal.

1.he can rebut and may be at the end of the rebuttal, outcome may be something else,
2.even if someone low balls, does it give someone right to misbehave? I know in the fish market or in flea market that what happens in India, a low balling customer should be prepared for misbehaviour from the seller. Does it need to happen here as well

Just feel this a bad experience case, not a fraud case.

@raja + 1

@Gusty sir -

1. Mr Bajare may have active after the post but he also might now knowing that thread will go so long and may waiting to respond all. There will be lot of assumptions for not replying too
2. Mr S_K is new to forum and its nice & good that he shared his side of experience, but i even don't know the name of him/her, while Mr Sandeep is active members since last 3 years
3. Even Mr S_K post has assumptions

I don't know Mr Sandeep personally or never meet him, whatever i know him is on forum,  but still i feel his name should not be here as no actual fraud has been done, its just exp. which everyone faces to different levels.

My personal experience dealing with Mr. Bajare has been very good. I had ordered one of his scratchbuilt airplanes which was promptly built and shipped to me. The courier guy who delivered it to my house had bought the parcel tucked under the rear carriage which damaged the fuse and the wings. Mr. Bajare built another airplane for me and shipped it without taking any extra money from me. So my personal dealing with him has been positive.

hi,

Apologise for the delay and for not logging early. my hdd crashed and had to spend two days
restoring windows and then the net did not work.


My side of the story.

1. this guy came to me for a model a pushere one. ( he want one which will looks beautiful and has got aesthetics.
2. I asked him if he can fly or still learning - ans is newcome.
3. so i gave him a model, my own trusted design which is flying beautifully for 1K. ( without electronics )
4. this guy starts talking about looks and beauty and plus want it cheap.
5. I felt insulted, a beginner who does not know anything about abc of aeromodelling should be requesting me about learning rather than beauty and aesthetics.
6. Looking at his attitude i undestood that he had come to by a beautiful doll to play and not a model to learn.
7. so i denied any things further and stopped my discussion as i had to rush.

( PLS note that nowhere in the discussion have i insulted him or used fouled language )

I have learnt the hard way and its pays to learn. So if he really wanted to learn he would be learning to fly with me and not wasting his time here writing foolishly.

y him posting here I have not lost any respect here. but have learnt that a fool resides and some more fools are following.

Now when i call up this guy he is running away from me and not taking my calls. can anybody request him to take my calls pls. would lile to know how much he has paid to me for writing against me.

I demand justice. ( Btw VC and Agustine you are not appointed judges here and pls stay away from this thread. till today i had some respect towards you but now i know i am wrong )

By posting here my bread and butter is not going to be taken away. I reaped my harverst with great hard work and honesty. Daane Daane pe likha hai khane wale ka naam.

I am deeply hurted by this and will surely not tolerate this. As far as i know this boy has stepped on my stomach and i am going to hit back hard. even if it requires me to take police action.

ADmin pls keep this thread so that i can post it as evidence.

regds
sandee[

"read it and make your own decisions"

+1 Gusty - Seems like you were entirely justified in post # 86. 

Q.E.D. :rofl:

"Give someone enough rope and he'll hang himself" (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120126163534AAqtrJb)

Q.E.D :rofl:

I deal with Mr.Bajare few months ago . I  ordered one of his scratchbuilt high winger model .So my personal dealing with him is good , i call him soo many time also.

misbehave !!! Isn't that word an over kill?

I have dealt multiple times with Sandeep, although have not met him. And my experience has been good transacting with him and would continue to do so.He has always kept up his words be it the condition of the item or the payment made.I think the incident in discussion here should not have been posted under this thread since it is just an argument or maybe just a bad day these guys were having.
Let the two guys resolve this difference of opinion rather than all of us trying it. Probably this matter needs just a phone call between the two.

Shreekant

irrespective of whatever happened, calling somebody Fool and Stupid is not misbehavior  then what is it ? care educate.

::)

It is sad to see members sitting in judgement and bullying others on the forum. A student wants to learn aeromodeling and the first thing he does is slander a senior aeromodeler and instructor to whom he has not paid a single paisa. These distasteful comments should be removed, I am posting here because I am not sure if my report to the moderator has functioned.

Himanshu

(a) it is apparent that phone calls are flying

(b) be that as it may, like i said irrespective whatever happened if YOU were to called a FOOL and STUPID on the forum, would you take lying down ? or will you take Mr Bajare to court and file a defamation suit (Which is coming his way anyways) or will you KISS him because he is senior RC member, come off it Sil,

(c) Make me see reason, i will render public, unconditional apology, without doubt to all including our man Vigyani

Damn right these are distasteful comments. A 'senior' aeromodeller tries to palm off a beat up/used/second hand aircraft to a novice/student. When the novice disagrees, he is called "stupid" and "fool" in an open public forum. Thereafter he is threatened with a police case. Distasteful behaviour to say the least. I hope the person in question realises the dangers involved in 'character defamation and use of abusive language meant to demean a person's character in print'.

Come on, give me a break.

Students who have scant idea of aeromodelling or RC are bound to have high expectations. The so called 'instructor' has to have a lot of patience while dealing with them. That is what 'Training' is all about. Patience, Understanding,the Ability to Listen and the Desire to make your Trainee's life easier. Trust me on this, I may not be a 'pure' aeromodeller, however, I train manpower for a living and have been doing so for the last 25 years.

Please let this topic slide without adding any more fuel to the fire. Let the concerned parties sort it out themselves. There is no point in any further show of support and solidarity - covert or otherwise.

{:)} {:)} {:)}
An instructor/trainer/teacher need to have patience with novice/beginner

What senior are you talking about??
Senior in playing with a TOY, thats it..!!
He's neither  a Nobel Prize winner nor a soical activist, not even a elderly man...He can play with his toy better than the other guy could , that doesnt make him a King of anything!

No need of any phone calls I am mature enough to make my own judgments.
Sandeep may have been born over a decade after I built my first aeromodel but as he is the local instructor here I give him due respect and always pay for services rendered by him in the field. Things do not come free even if I am a pensioner.
I am aware that some of you are instructors in your field and so have I been in my field for long. I think at least one of you may be an ex-NDA so to you I say, as a young Captain I was an instructor at NDA in 1978, when a cadet came with a genuine query it was answered but if the intentions were otherwise the response also varied. Apparently now a teacher has just become a paid service provider who can be insulted at will.
What LHS are some members talking about? It is just a Local Hobby Shed that belongs to an aeromodeler (me) which has been made available to others (free) to use as a store and workshop just to help out the hobby. So kindly stop applying the Consumer Act and saying Consumer is the King (without paying a paisa) so you can pick up anything you want at the price you want. I get worried because my paraglider trike is also there. If I was around I would have told this King to leave because I am the Emperor of that private property.
I prefer being on the sideline this is only the second time that I have interfered on this forum. The first time was when a lot of lose comments were made by members on paragliding at Hadapsar when most of them were clueless about the sport. Regards, Col HK Sil (Retd.)  :salute:

Sir
Good to hear your true identity and i wasn't aware of the same, i detest doing it to anyone and i am more than certain you do agree with me. i can see Sandeep is your friend, if Sandeep and I had met he could have been mine too, even if he was/is a friend, i will do a dis service to him and the friendship if i dont tell him, he cant call names to anyone, King, Emperor or Pauper alike.

your take ?
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Bad experience with Dhiraj Rahul of www.projectstuff.in

I was searching for JST-XH 3s Wire extension which is a hard-to-find part out of HK. I found it on www.projectstuff.in
I ordered it and transferred the money the next day.

1. After exactly 3 days of the money getting transferred, I called him (for the first time) and asked about my order. He said it was being "processed". Wonder what he meant by that.
2. After 5 days I called him again and he said my order had been packed would be dispatched the next day.
3. I get a mail on day 7 which says that his consignment had gotten 'stuck' at Mumbai Intl airport and that it would take some 30 days to process it.

A. Why wasn't I informed that it wasn't in stock? (his site clearly says "In Stock")
B. Why should customs clearance take 30 days? Is he yet to order what I ordered?

And in addition to all this, his communication was VERY poor.

JST-XH cables are called 'RMC' connectors in India and are sold Rs 5 /3 pin , Rs 6/4pin ans so on with 10 inch pig tail cables attached in the local Bangalore Electronic market.
I bet if you take a Lipo with JST-XH connector to Gujrati Gali near Koti, you would definitely find the same there

The Address of the Store is :
Address:
Project Stuff
Owner Name - Dhiraj Rahul
Address - 219, F - Hostel , NITC Hostels
City - Calicut
Pin - 673601
Country - India
Mobile No. - 7277684044, 9037525455

Earnestly, I would stay away from such stores, run from hostel dorms, unless one builds a rapport. Nothing against the bright students of this country, but myself hailing from a prestigious campus, I know the different 'Work' commitment one has to attend to in college campus. India is never known for companies starting from Garages anyway.

Hmm, so you're familiar with this gujrati galli.
Anyways, thanks a TON for the advice, I didn't know that. I'll try. :)

http://www.rcelectronicworld.co.cc/p/material-sources.html   this guy dhiraj rajendra jadhao is a cheat,i ordered for 5 sheets of depron was charged 1400rs,from pune - mumbai recieved it in pieces ,,he said he will send new sheets its been 2 months now i have not recieved it,he doesnt answer his phone even,guys from mumbai here a good place to buy  heres the adress...abdullatif habibbhoy 196 abdul rehman street,400 003 tel 23425314..........per sheet 60rs thats 6mm sheet around  72inch x 26inch you can  call and ask exact size and home deliver...etc
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[Admin Note] Reference to this For Sale thread : http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/white-depron-foam-available-for-sale-10937/msg120517/#msg120517

I should write up my experience. I have not bought anything from them but still people should be aware.
I went to Tritech Hobbies in Mumbai to purchase Savage Flux. The people there seemed very less interested.
Then they told me that they will order one. After 1 month I asked about the status & they said that it has arrived in 'Bangalore' & all custom clearance has been done. Even after a month, it never arrived. Then they said that they cannot procure it due to 'US Dollar' rise!
After that I went to their place & they informed me that many people are loosing interest in this hobby  :o
I never paid anything to them but man, a great ambassadorship for R/c.

After that I talked to Mr. Rahul Mohan & he was such a nice guy. I suggest any potential buyer to better buy from him even if you are not in Delhi.  :(

[Admin Note] Unnecessary "Quote" removed... use "Reply" instead... See usage guidelines : http://www.rcindia.org/rc-india-forum/forum-usage-tips/

Be advised that HPI is on a low key in India. They do not have stock of any item in a while. I have ordered cars for college students directly from Tower since HPI is not being imported now.

Ok. But even if thats the case, People should not misguide newcomers. I will never do that & will make sure that it becomes a knowledge gaining & passionate experience to beginners. And for HPI case, let me tell you guyz that after all this I asked for Losi LST XXL so that, I could convert it to electric...But again some excuses were delivered.

http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/easy-star-1-for-sale/

sumitnathwani

wait could be months before you get what you bought, take a clear commitment before you buy

also

see this

http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/easy-star-1-for-sale/msg155488/#msg155488

I was just about to. Thanks Gusty for already doing it.

"Sumitnathwani" one more added to Beware list.

Thank you cutie... Happy? Cho chweet... Enjoy

Substance abuse....definitely

OMG, is this guy ok?   dosnt even realize his mistake!

uuuuh....  are you high?

he is such a numb nut  :P :giggle:

Lol...
You seem to be new...!

http://www.rcindia.org/profile/?u=9634

Indianaviator Beware of this troll market who is here only to palm off exorbitant items to unsuspecting buyers. seller is compulsively abusive, very fond of use of veiled abuses and then leaving it to their imagination to provoke/ insult anyone who questions accuracy of his sale cost posted.

http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/biggest-sale-of-2013-hitec-aurora-9-tx-and-4-rx-for-sale-goodies!!!!!!/msg161279/#new (http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/biggest-sale-of-2013-hitec-aurora-9-tx-and-4-rx-for-sale-goodies!!!!!!/msg161279/#new)

Dont exploit someones reputation because of your ignorance. You should be ashamed of what you said without even knowing someone.

There are 1000s of members here who post day in and out..

When someone post a thread and you ask him a simple question in a funny way.. he may not take it in the same way as you did.

I was simply offended when Anand asked me a simple question.. but again its between 2 members who are you to question my interity..

Sundaram, you will eat your words..

Do you have any idea of the items i have listed here and the true indian market price of the items.. dont post any link here which costs in dollars and shipped from US.. you need to calculate the shipping and customs price along with the listed price ..

I dont wanna name you (cos i am not you) after you named me as you mentioned in your post.

Don't act naive now. you were way out of your line there for which your unconditional apology to affected forum member is warranted first. Learn some manners on how to interact with people on public forum. This is not a hawker's Bazaar.

There seem to be some bigger questions here:

1. There are undoubtedly some members here who do not participate in anything, but only join and post for the express intention of hawking their unwanted goods; possibly, trying a rip-off on some unsuspecting newbie. We have a case here of a certain member who has 21 posts, of which 20 are "For Sale." This is to my mind a clear abuse of what this forum stands for.
2. Use of offensive language in retort to an innocuous question, leading to a cascading effect. Unpleasantness all round.
3. As a forum for Radio Controlled modelling, are we going to be reduced to a Buy and Sell room? I hope not - there is such a wealth of information, knowledge here, and it is a great place to build long-lasting friendships with like-minded people.
4. Perhaps, a restriction can be applied, like some other forums do, wherein a person can only post in the "For Sale" section only after a minimum number of posts eg 40.
5. The "For Sale" Section should have a separate location from the main forum.

These are just some views I had after ducking all the flying mud, and would welcome the opinions of the more accomplished members here

Its too harsh, Indianaviator should be given a chance.

That's you personal opinion since he has not foul mouthed you?...  :).  A person trying to sell something on a public forum but has the audacity to abuse member who asks a casual question and you think its too Harsh!!!!! Let me see you say that again when someone does that to you. He does not have the basic decency in interacting with members in public forum and you think its too Harsh!!!. Thats the character he wants to project in his own sale thread and you want to stand guarantee for him

His intention is pretty damn clear here. He does not want anyone other than unsuspecting Naive buyers to interfere with his sale thread and expose the correct market trend, so that he can go ahead and sell things at whatever price he deems fit. To that end he will stoop down to the level of challenging and abusing the questioning members to keep them away from his thread.

I am Sorry. I do not agree with you here "Sir".

"IndianAviator" Less than 25 posts only to sell stuff and abuse people. You expect us to believe that he is a newcomer here. I doubt it.. The handle name and attitude suggest other wise.

@ nchandra what's your motive and intention in trying to support this two day old new registrant who registered on 18 Nov 13 only to post sale threads and created a Drama within a day on 19th, who's true identity and integrity has not yet been verified by any of the forum member.

You are here to stand guarantee for this one day old member. If not I would suggest you please keep your personal opinion to your self.  @nchandra no offence meant to you please. ;D

""He does not want anyone other than unsuspecting Naive buyers to interfere with his sale thread and expose the correct market trend, so that he can go ahead and sell things at whatever price he deems fit""

There is already an example of that today itself in his Cessna Sale.

I have answered why I have not chosen this route before, but I will re-iterate.

When you enforce such a policy, it inconveniences people who are into RC already, but found this forum only when they were looking to sell something.  There are lots of genuine cases like that, including multiple seniors members who are otherwise well known RC circles.

Also, the worst part of enforcing such a policy is that people who come with the intention to sell at any cost will start posting "Very good", "Nice Job", "Well done" etc 40 times in various threads, until they get to the post count required to post their "For Sale" ad.  We have enough noise already !

I believe I have considered all the facts here in making this decision, but I am open to suggestions/discussion.  I felt that dealing with the once in a while bad apples is better than inconveniencing other genuine sellers.


I have meant to do this for a while, at least removing it from the list of "Recent Topics" on the front page.  But with my hectic schedule, I just did not get time to come around a create a proper software "mod" to do this right (so that it can survive forum software updates).

Thank you Anwar-bhai. A relief to hear a note of positivity  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

There is no motive no intention here from my side. Only thing is this has gone too far and too specific.

Agreed there need to more safe guard for buyers, esp. novices ( including me) so that there are minimum or no cases of cheating/abuse.  40 post req still sounds low , sellers probably should be required to submit  some ID proof like eBay does.

http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/tricopter-electronics-for-sale/ (http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/tricopter-electronics-for-sale/)

my pocket burnt up by this guy... a young fellow fooled me up..

i should have understood that by his continuous desperate requests to take his stuff..
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Ved from goa... now he's not even replying

First I didn't force you to buy the kk board. You were the one who wanted the board. You also said that if the board doesn't work with the quadrotor then you will take refund. Why should I? You don't know what you are buying? Then don't buy.
Secondly I had checked the board before sending it to you as I have been telling you. You are to ready to listen.
You can ask other members here with whom I had a successful deal before.
So before posting it here, try to settle it. I didn't say that I won't return you the esc?

1st of all ved... the i86 board u sold me... yes i very much wanted it...not the burnt up board...
u burnt up the board because u didn't know to put the signal wires properly..and then frustrated... u sold me the faulty board and try to act as innocent as possible...
i had a quad ready and i sent u a video as soon as i got the board din't i?

YOU SOLD ME A BURNT UP BOARD U CHEATER>>> some proofs to be followed

just to show people how you fooled me

also if you want, i'll post images of the board u sent me,,, and how it actually was...
that burnt board was in horrible condition ,...so worn and torn and roughly crashed

Hey Roby.. Glitch in your story. If you're asking ved where to plug the signal wire, maybe you don't know what to do either? What's to say that you didn't plug it wrong, burn it and then play ved? Got any proof that it wasn't working out of the box?

Worn torn and crashed? That board was in the air for precisely 3 minutes. Nothing more. Then I dismantled the aircraft for ved and took the props and hub home. Not before cleaning the board with a soft brush.
So why don't you go cry somewhere else. I think it's pretty obvious that the damage is not on veds side. You're just blaming him cause you're upset and have no one else to blame, and you can't simply accept the fact that you are at fault.

Regards
Aniket

And I have already told him that I will return the esc. So he wants me to return it now? At 10:30 PM?

i'll send you the whole history of whatsapp conversation bro.. i sent the video plugging it in right direction...then ved says its plugged worng...he said signal wires won't come inwards in this...then he says he's not sure...
then he said that its a different board..

i read the 2 paged manual 3 times even before it was arrived...i made many copters before.. so i have an idea of how to connect things..

SO FAR I CANNOT UNDERSTAND JUST ONE THING: why are you trying to support him even if you know nothing of what happened?
is he paying you for this?? ???

as a senior member i respected you a lot man (aka aniket), have subscribed many of your diy's previously..

But you lost all my respect.. for judging people for no reason

Its not that my esc that i'm claiming..
He quoted me long back that he will ship that...also to throw his board in garbage
But the fact that i'm not wrong at my part..

I'll wait for the day when someone will send you something faulty and you can expect my comment on the section..

Well ved i appreciate that you understood and reacted well, i wish you luck with your deals to come..
though i lost a few hundred bucks.. but u saved my thousands.. so cheers

SHUT UP Ok. I and aniket are working together for 1 year now. and that tricopter was made by me and aniket only. So dont even day=re to say anything to him. And I am not a corrupt person.

I know how to talk to others. Not like you who always fire bad words in each sentence. Even I can send the conversation. But I have to maintain my respect also. And regarding the faulty part, I wont let that person's respect go down. There is something called as cellphone through which I can contact him and tell.

@ved very well.. this is how u treat ur customers especially when u trick them..
now i got to know why u were so desperate about selling ur board and was ready for any deal which was offered..(money or exchange)

I didnt force you to buy the board. First day you said that you are not familiar with the board so you dont want to buy it. Next day you messaged me that you will arrange me a esc and in return give you the board. I dint tell you??

pls post it i request you..now its not just money but the ego too.. :banghead: :banghead:

I'll go file a fraud case which i should have done previously..

i have all evidences as the 1st video which was made was in front on the courier man and never used before that.Also the video reveals whether the connections were made right or wrong..

Also i have 3 friends and my block tutor who was there as an evidence that the video was my 1st attempt..

ie.this is just to let your buyers know whats at stake...and so that no one dares to fool anyone in this forum

Fraud case?? I told you that I am sending the esc. Is it a fraud? Did I say that I am not giving?

@ved , cool man , respect for you............ buyer is not a KING.
and also thanx to our seniors who have created and supported this kind of physiology here in this forum..............

I apologise to Roby for sending a faulty board.  Your new esc will be sent back to you tomorrow. Please don't take any serious action.

I am extremely sorry.

no offence , and no complain done.. apology accepted..  its always nobel to confess...

No need to send me esc.. you can have it..

Hi Everybody
He cheated me of 65,000/- and when i enquired in my circles i have found many were cheated like me in that circles so be carefull before dealing with him

I request all of the persons cheated by him to kindly post their sad stories and experience so that other persons wont get cheated

http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/beware-of-dealing-with-these-people/msg111496/#msg111496 (http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/beware-of-dealing-with-these-people/msg111496/#msg111496)

lot of people have been cheated by him.. you can see that in his past sale posts and trader rating.

ADMIN: might wanna merge with http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/beware-of-dealing-with-these-people/ (http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/beware-of-dealing-with-these-people/)

But i feel it would be good to be separate topic so that all can easily see his name instead of searching in that beware list

Robologix okay, but whats the story? And when did this take place?
Cant see any recent sale threads from Hemanth of that amount.

http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/dji-wkm-metal-45-a-esc-gd-power-distribution-mounting-pannels/msg179434/#msg179434 (http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/dji-wkm-metal-45-a-esc-gd-power-distribution-mounting-pannels/msg179434/#msg179434)

DJI wkm collected 65k and didnt send wkm and not paid money back now not lifting calls

Think you negotiated with him via PM or Mail, so more details could be helpful for the rest of us, such as

When did you complete the payment,
Till when did the seller promise to ship the item,
Did he agree to refund you because of not honoring the deal? etc.

A little delay on the part of seller is forgivable but if you/your circle feel cheated, I would suggest you to file an FIR. 65K is not a small amount to loose. I hope you already have his contact number,bank account details; which should be enough for the cops to find him out.

Thanks for reply

i have all the proofs of the payment and even recorded his voice calls for proof

for mr he said will refund money but sent me false and forged online statements that he transffered money

today sent him an legal notice to his address giving a weektime to solve issue outside law if not said will proceed legally

after i got cheated contacted a person in mumbai named rajesh he said he too got cheated so thought it would be better to post in Rcindia forum so that no more would be cheated

He is not lifting calls and not replying to messages

Why are you guys not taking this issue to police? 65k is not a small amount!

i send him 30k for diversity monitor and Gimbal .. still nw he didn't Send ..me
nw not picking Phone .. he is a  big Fraud… Dnt Leave Him That Fool.. >:(
What can we do ??? Any ways to get back

Need To catch Him Anyway

i sent him notice will wait a week for money if not will file cheating case so only wanted to know how many cheated so that can have a strong case on him and he cant escape

Shure we are with u ... {:)}

Its feels really sorry to see such activities on the rise on such a good forum. When i started out in RC (about 1.5 years ago) i had less than 1/4th the equipment required to fly nitro.The remaining 3/4th was bought through this very site. Getting into electric flying was entirely from stuff brought from here.So many people i dealt with; never even giving it a second thought..and it always worked out well..in fact it worked out superbly well.All items true to stated description,prompt sending no hassels at all....
Lately i've stared feeling that i need to be careful..much much more careful.Maybe avoid sales from new joinees altogether... and this changing of perception is what troubles me.
I hope it does not become a incorrigible thought process. Dont know how many on this forum have started to feel the same lately...
Please people..be honest. We are denting the very repute of this Forum.

Anwar Bhai. Pl take note. He is using this forum to post Advt dupe people. It has happened once too often and we have talked about it too. Once too often.

I have recently had a very bad experience with thehobbyshop.in
Their website went down (domain is now not valid) a week after I placed my order and the contact number is switched off.
Apart from that, I am now down Rs. 1400.

Which city he is from. I think in fact I request all the members of the forum who are from tat city please help out. Robo in this matter.

He stays in Devangere, Bangalore.

I bought material worth 50k+ divided into 3-4 orders from him last year. Most of the things reached me with a delay of 7-10 days.

I very well remember that the last order was worth some 30k and he stopped picking the phone/reverting back to messages after the fund transfer. Eventually after about 200-300 calls in two days he shipped the material. Of course the parcel did not have everything that I had paid for but since the deal was closed at a good price, I did not put up a fight.  :banghead:

In parallel to whatever you are doing, I would also recommend that you get a younger sibling/cousin (or anyone who's free) to repeatedly call Hemanth all through the day for 2-3 days. Since he also uses the same number for his business, he'll eventually give up and get back to you for a solution.  :giggle:

I had extended conversations with him last year. He comes from a well off family and is an engineer and in general did not seem to be a bad guy. I fail to understand why he has to resort to such activities.  :-\

Psychopath. Maybe Sociopath.

Any updates?
Were the items finally delivered or
Have legal proceedings been initiated?

Many people have asked me to ban him.  I don't think that serves any purpose, as creation of accounts is easy. 

The real solution in any case of breach of contract (including this one) is to initiate legal proceedings via police/courts. It is not as difficult as it sounds.

I agree with you, but he is again making new sale posts without even bothered about replying to allegations and accusations against him or resolving them. I mean what kind of respectable person would sit quite and take it all without making a noise when his character and honesty are being questioned. His silence leads me to believe that either he had genuine reasons and don't expect us to understand or his intentions were never sincere from the beginning itself, isn't afraid and doesn't care about consequences for reasons known to him!

However is it possible,atleast to stop him from making any sales posts from his current account.

Strangely the OP hasn't updated on the situation, neither has heliboycochin which could have been helpful.

Finally The issue is resolved and got my things Thanks for your help

How was it solved? If you could share details it might help others...

Update: thehobbyshop.in website has been started again. However all old user accounts have been lost. There still has been no communication from their side regarding my order. My money still lies with them and I have not received any item.

I would like to give in the name of jack hobbies as well in this list just having a nice site does not mean you will have a good experience buying from him
I saw a radio alum case available on his site showing as IN STOCK looking at that i placed my order the money got deducted from my acc i called him the other day asking when will it be shipped only to know that the radio case was never in stock it was shown as IN STOCK by mistake . Never the less he told me he will check if the case was in his warehouse but he never called me back i called him the next day asking if he could find anything but he said it was not there i needed a radio case urgently hence told him to ship the turnigy radio case he did not provide me with the shipping id untill the next 2 days when he finally gave it to me on asking

Though i got the turnigy case and was packed fine and the cheque of the refund amount was there but why would you show something as in stock when it is not why accept a payment for it and then say iam sorry its out of stock any way i thought i'll put it out there if the mods think its not that serious you can delete it

I literally got robbed by funaster akka rchobbyaddict.com by nearly 60,000 Rs. and now i'm stuck very badly.
I'm just a student and got money from a client of mine (sanjay surabhjit) who is about to file a case against me..
i'm just a student studying in St. Stephens College, Delhi..
and i promise i will shutdown this company and never enter this hobby again..
I beg you all if you have any influential contacts who can pull me out of this in legal terms please contact me...

Funaster people have told me they have many lawyers and they won't fund back money at all, which they allegedly robbed

What is the case ?
Seems to be a serious issue.

These people lied lied and lied, its been a month now since they are playing around with my money, and instruments, its not just 1 thing:
1)they promise the copter will be ready in 3-4 days time
2)they tell their dys escs are faulty
3)they run their maytech escs and tell that they are faulty as well
4)when motors had problem they checked my naza v1 on tarot 650 and reported me that the controller with gps was performing ver well in another copter, so the problem lies in escs
5)I arranged 6 escs 40amp for a hobby store which they reported was working fine with my controller
6)they fried my controller(naza v1)
7) they fried one of my receiver too
8- openly anirudh accepted it and says they haven't worked with naza v1 and so its not there fault
9) even though they fried all my investment, they offer a little refund
10) ask me to do case or whatever, and claim they have too many lawyers and previously went to jail

A total fault on their side I can say from this.
Please explain in detail and step by step what hapenned.

Sir, funaster people convinced me to take their setup, they stock faulty products in their website..
(like the dys escs and maytech escs) which they themselves accept,
also they have a faulty product now(tarot 1000mm) which is still on their website..if you don't believe.. just order the frame and you will get a broken frame..

luckily i din't get separate parts from them, i gave them contract of a full hexacopter..
and now after playing with my v1, 6x40a escs and 20k advance, its been a month and they say just take your things back with the advance..they burnt up the v1,hopefully escs are fine

i wanna thank Mr.divay(commissioner noida) and Mr. Dinesh(sub inspector, delhi) for helping me out..
Specially Mr. Divay

I wish it gets resolved soon without leaving marks in my career...
I accept my fault to be involved professionally in this hobby at this age

hi,

sorry to hear about your dealing wit rchobbyaddict.

2 months back I got stuff worth 80k from them and all was received in good condition. luckily I ordered parts 800mm hexacopter frame with tarot motors and escs, naza v2, props and huge 6s 10ah lipo.

I personally assembled and tested it last month.

you should have met them personally before starting on this project as it involved huge money considering you are a student. also you could have consulted on forum wit members.

i will very much accept any help from their side, my coming to forum was just an advice given to me by the senior members, god knows what will happen to me and my deal, i can't afford to pay the other side...
i very much liked funaster people initially., but the no. of fraud deals done to me is unacceptable...

hope this issue gets resolved soon

You promised another client that you will deliver a hexacopter with a dslr gimbal and batteries for 60,000? Right?

i promised him a hexacopter with payload 3 kgs without any gimbal for 1.2 lakhs..
he has his own gimbal

60k was the advance i took

Wow as a student accepting that huge an amount for a project and not doing background checks before investing it or trusting it with anybody will bring a consequence like this. Robin please do think before you do such transactions, especially in this hobby. There are very few people who own lhs that you can trust. Just dont go to any lhs and buy things from them. They should have a very good track record for you to invest/trust them with such a huge amount, getting advice from senior members beforehand is highly recommended.

Unfortunately for you the happening has happened and being a student there isnt much you can do other than ask for help from the law probably some lawyer might take your case pro bono considering you are a student who was duped.

Either party( client or lhs)  have capital to pay if a legal tussle does take place, hoping it wont.
But you cant do anything regarding this, ask your parents what can be done.

I hope the senior members can advice robin regarding this. :salute:

Funaster you need to speak up as this is harming your reputation .... both parties need to discuss this and ambically resolve the issue, having know Funaster for long I am sure they care about thier reputation and will bring an end to this.

It has to be a WIN - WIN situation for both.

My humble request is to have this resolved at the earliest.

Rchobbyaddict.com has earned such a bad name i told two of my friends to stay as away from them as possible , Robby so sorry to hear such a thing has happened to you , not your fault those guy's are thief's you should IMO file a police complaint on rchobbyaddict.com and go to the consumer court as well

i personally admire anam i'm sure he'll come up with something thats justified, some signs of humanity, nd i'll very much appreciate it  :(

I have deleted a self promoting post by Funaster in another board.  I expect them to work with the customer (in public or private) before trying to promote themselves with a "discussion" thread here.  I do not mean either party is right or wrong, and I certainly do not mean that Funaster has to blindly accept or agree with everything said here, but some response is a must before trying to market themselves further here.  The audience is entitled to some feedback.

Anwar,
I was about to post a reply on this very thread , that is he not liable to answer a few questions first before doing other activities . Now that you have done it sir expecting a reply from him soon , great work
Raj

@anwar ji
well said.
I was really surprised, how people live with an attitude "Whatever, I don't care."

Exactly my thoughts Anwar Bhai, when I was tempted to bump this thread earlier after seeing his other thread.

"I don't care to respond" is not exactly the message which we are expecting here.

Rightly done.  {:)}  {:)}

+1

Known depredator  (KD) wont stop at one, they will continue to Cheat, Steal and carry on with their ways of living and working, they wouldnt and couldnt care less

Robin Bought from us:
Tarot Ironman 1000 frame for Rs. 22500
Tarot 650 for                        Rs. 5000
Tarot 1555 Propellers(5 Pairs) Rs. 6500
Plastic propellers(4 Sets)        Rs. 800

He paid us a total of Rs. 42,500
Balance- Rs. 7,700

He did order a Hexacopter St800 which we were unable to deliver on time, because of some technical problems.
We didn't want him to deliver a Copter which was Risky to Fly.
We adjusted the Balance amount with the advance for
St 800 (Rs.7,700)

We offered to refund back the money, but he wanted Rs. 60,000 from us. We don't know where the figure came from. We are not liable or responsible Rs. 60,000.

NAZA V1 is perfectly fine.

Truth is subjective and we have nothing more to say.

We have been delivering the best customer service in the industry and will continue to do so.

THANK YOU FOR THE LIES FUNASTER
i never demanded 60k.... i was convinced by funaster to take the whole kit rather than st800 frame when i agreed, dropped my controller with them, and 20k,
it was but obvious that the propellors were for hexacopter,..

FUNASTER, WHAT DID YOU DO? HERE YOU GO:-
they troubled me calling to office atleast 10 times,
 when i took their dys escs, they said to take maytech(difference per esc was 2000), i couldn't afford it so i refused, so they agreed to work with dys..
now they said their dys escs are faulty(or has wrong firmware) and gave me maytech, which again after a week they claim to be not working and asked me to get esc's myself(all these faulty products were listed in their website),
when the setup had a problem they said that my controller might be faulty so they tested it in their tarot 650 and later reported me that the controller with gps was perfectly fine for which i was sure as i even have the maiden shot of the last flight with that controller.

now they asked me to get esc's(which i bought from chintal and they told me it was working fine afterwards)
but again after 3 more weeks they tell me controller has some fault now so they again suggest me to go with their controller and spend more,

i appreciate that funaster is good at apologising and i regularly received an apology(at least 20 times, which even includes "sorry we might have ruined your controller, but we don't have much experience with v1 and we don't deal with anything less than v2"
WHY DID YOU AGREE TO DEAL THEN???

afterwards they even showed me an st800 with same motors and dys esc's and said that they made it for one of their client, but i remember when i enquired for dys, they said the brand is crap and don't go for it, but when escs were not working they said not to worry , they just need to upgrade firmwares and the escs are best brand, and has the best production.

the date promised to me was 3 days after the payment, just tell me how in any case an order can be extended by 10 times of the promised date??

the sales guy of funaster "anirudh" behaves really badly(i literally mean very harshly) which is not acceptable..

when i did a little part of my research i found out the customers of funaster are very unhappy with their way of dealing, and their ultra expensive setups are crap, and they lost their expensive camera's
Many senior forum members are very unhappy with funaster because their price transitions, quotes and quality, and listing faulty setups in their websites

NOW IT SHOULD BE CLEAR FUNASTER THAT you have my 20k(as tarot 650 was a deal after this hexacopter one), there is no way i will take props, my f**ked up controller(i don't really know how you did it, probably the way anam threw it in the desk the time i was in office, it hurts, i'll throw your skyhero like that one day), 6x escs (which is now of no use to me).. and a lump sum amount which i'm supposed to return to other party..

ONLOOKER FORUM MEMBERS I WILL TOTALLY APPRECIATE YOUR INVOLVEMENT, JUST TELL ME WHAT YOU WOULD DO IF YOU HAD BEEN IN MY CASE

1 more thing; for the best customer service means they won't listen to you at all, wont pickup your calls and when they do, they're not in office and busy so they can't spare time to talk, so call again next day..
best customer service is satya gupta from quadcopters who replies to all mails, talks and resolves not just professional but personal issues as well

i am willing to deal in legal terms now and whatever the truth is will drop by soon, gained a little confidence with their customers who were previously cheated by them and are willing to stand with me

the biggest living proofs of they are robbers is i can prove a no. of items listed in their website which are broken/non-working which they will sell of to newbies and they will be confused in (how to use this thing)

also please pm me, any member here, if he had a bad experience with funaster,
i will take your case as well and its time we should respond in legal terms to these bunch of recently graduated students, who fooled a series of people(that doesn't mean they haven't made good setups) claimed their experience over a wide range of multicopters, and even claiming in their website that they are india's best hobby store, while senior members say they fairly have any experience who recently learnt stuffs from noida aeromodelling club

please, i need no pity, only justice

got to know 1 more thing, the funaster page admin deletes post and blocks people whoever posts a bad review against him while the +ve reviews are stored as it is

Funaster assures one thing, that we don't sell faulty products .
Because products are 'not perfect' sometimes.
We don't ask a single question, while replacing our products.
If Robin or someone else has got any faulty product from Funaster.com (http://Funaster.com)/RcHobbyAddict.com (http://RcHobbyAddict.com), we'll replace it.

We don't a hide the defect from the customer.  
We assure that the fault is minor and will not harm anyone.
The Prices are also low for a damaged product.

Note:
For getting a replacement of a product:

1. Valid Warranty period.
2. No Physical damages.
3. Contact +919999999354/buzz@funaster.com

That depends whether you know the absolute truth or not but thats not always possible(atleast on a forum). It also becomes subjective if you dont speak up and your wish of not speaking any further complicates it .As an audience, its difficult for me to understand from the statements made by both parties, what exactly happened or whats the 'TRUTH'. So its impossible for me to arrive on a conclusion.

for ex:
1)You say FC is alright, while Roby says its fried, whats the truth?And what about the receiver which he claims you damaged?

2)If the order was for one completely assembled copter, why are there 2 more frames props etc in the purchase list? Was it willingly ordered by Roby, or is there a story behind it?

I think you are on the same boat, with you being an undergraduate probably. Your client must be thinking the same thing about you such as you dont know your stuff,business,technical-know-how; didnt fulfill the promise in time and will be calling you a cheat if you dont pay him back. So do you think if he comes here and starts name calling would it be of any help?

For you Roby, please make a list like below, so that we know what do you want. According to Funaster, only Rs 7700 is due with all the items that you purchased and things you provided.

Total amount paid:
Your Order:
Items bought with individual pricing:
Items which you are willing to pay for:
Items that were forced upon you and not willing to pay for:
Items that you provided them with:
How much amount do you want back now:

As for the esc's purchased by you (which you are not willing to take back), thats the only loss which you should bear(not in case if you use them to fulfill your clients order).

Roby had I been in your place,
-Take back all the items that were provided to lhs
-Take all the items that I willingly ordered(frames etc) and the remaining balance. If Im still unsatisfied then,
-I would have first registered a criminal complaint under section 420 etc of cheating and get a copy of the same. Then contact a lawyer and send a legal notice to the accused.
-Filing FIR shouldnt cost you anything,and sending a legal notice shouldnt cost you much. Or find your local consumer court and appeal there, as far as I know its much faster. However once the case reaches court, its going to take up some money and time(in years), but if you are confident about winning the case, you will be awarded your money with damages from court.

Funaster, had I been in your place,
-First of all I would return whatever the customer provided me with(items/parts).
-Reimburse/replace any damaged items that were provided by him in working condition(FC/receiver).
-Not charge for the items that were required in the build of the copter which I promised to deliver.
-Charge him only for items that were willingly purchased other than the complete copter setup.
-Deliver all the purchased items and remaining advance amount.

I'll tell you the whole story:

Robin comes to us for a Hexacopter frame St800 which was for Rs. 8,000.He wanted just the frame and some electronics. But instead he purchases Tarot Ironman 1000 Octocopter frame which I sold him for Rs. 22,500. That tarot Frame he sold for Rs. 40,000 to his client which I got to know from his Client directly. His client doesn't know what to do with that frame. Another day he comes and asks me if you have anything more in your store I'll buy it. I offered him a good price he bought another Tarot 650 frame for Rs. 5000
Tarot 1555 propellers(5 pairs) for Rs. 6500 and plastic props for Rs.800(4 sets). The Products I sold him were super discounted.

We offered to help him with the St800. He pressurized us to use 'his NAZA V1', we have no knowledge from where he bought it.
Said he was low on budget, I also don't know what he quoted his client.

We have offered Robin to close it but I believe he is not willing. He came to our office 3 days back without the products. How to close it we don't understand. He even threatened us in our office.
 
Note:

NAZA V1 is perfectly fine, which we have showed him. But he wanted a 3 months warranty on his NAZA V1 from our company. I don't know the source where he bought it or how old it is.

We told him the Radio/receiver problem in the beginning. His purchase source unknown and the life is also unknown.

He bought all the products willingly.

We are still ready to close it

But why was the self proclaimed silence till now is  the more obvious question in all  our mind.

I answered as soon as I got to now that we are being discussed.

 :thumbsup:

wow funaster, all the negativities of mine are shown, then dare to talk about yourself, please explain these:
1-after testing gps on tarot 650 and then telling me that now its faulty while accepting that when they received it in working condition, did a successful maiden, and then reported me after 2 weeks that its not working,
2-extending 3 days of building time to 1 month
3-troubling me with 100's of their lies(i've made a list, will include in FIR)

now shall i remind you the tarot frame was 44,000 in your website a month back?
you are just diverting onlooker's attention when the frame was never in scene

Now to your just posted lies:
1- i was threatened by both anirudh and one more guy(lately who said that his family sth sth his uncle sth sth police sth sth)have previously included points of what their response were, they're in no short of lawyers,etc. don't need to recall that again.I have received threatening bawls from everyone excluding anam, but even he shouted at me once.

2-the controller is not a bulb that it will either lit or not lit up, the explanation you gave that after 50% controller switches of some motors will obv crash the model, you yourself proved me controller wasn't fine and now you are telling me its fine again? LIAR

3-i pressurised you to use my v1? can't stop loling. you pressurised me to take a used St800 frame with used tarot motors and totally rugged and used setup


funaster troubled me a lot in every way, they used to call me to their office made me wait for hours

they called me to their office for stupid things like talking, but in the phone they will have no time, on a case as serious as this, they will say 'we're busy' when they will pick up

moreover they are a bag of lies, they are willing to give my things back with an affidavit and a sorry it was my fault in forum and fb pages,
they delete and hide their negetive reviews and scream for their positive ones, they've had maximum haters in this forum, some of them are willing to files cases with me,
sundaram i agree with you, for taking back whatever they've offered, and then fighting back legally

so funaster i'm sending you my acc details, and my address, i'll make a video of receiving of parcel to see the condition of whatever i'll get in whatever condition,
the next i'm sure is they'll ask me to come to their office instead for which i'm not comfortable as my last experience was really bad visiting your place.

after we wind this up i have many updates on funaster based on concrete text or voice recording evidence, which i'll be posting here(links) and linking them with adwords, so that whenever people will search funaster or rchobbyaddict.com in google, they can see and judge themselves

funaster i feel pity for you guys
funaster was viewing the board 1 min after i posted the reply last night, you wanted time for more lies and ways to hide your fault

sidewinder sir i never asked for the rebate of tarot1000 frame as i purchased it, but for the deals of tarot650 and props were done after the booking for st800 copter was done and they started working on it, the money came from clients pocket, ut it was but obvious with both the parties that props were for hexa,
i was about to order rcdhamaka props and i even told them that, when they quickly droped their prop price from 2200 to 1300,
they wanted me to use their v2 priced at 23k, which was for 18k with chintal, and their batteries at 21k when they again dropped it to 19k which was still far more than what chintal was offering of 10ah and a better discharge rate

there are lies and fraud at each corner and each part funaster owns

i can prove that you people sell faulty products allegedly and knowingly, and i've got to know a lot of new things about you,

will come up to all that, but before that refund and ship what you promised,
i.e. my 6x40a escs, 3xpairs of props, naza v1
and transfer the amount Rs.7700 to my account,
address and acc. details sent.

once i get stuffs and my advance back, we can discuss the other things...

we deposit your money and give back your stuff
But we want a written assurance that you won't be posting anything without the proof in the future and all our dues towards you has been cleared.

Mail me: Buzz@Funaster.com
 

well robin i feel sorry for you ,but as far as in my concern anam has been quite a helpful guy i have known him for quite a long time since 2009 ..personally i suggest you have a talk with him directly along with your client and resolve your matters

funaster now wants to snatch right to speech  :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:

i will post whatever wrong you will keep on doing, also i do remember our negotiation from which you turned back which was you will take props back

We will take the props back and give you Rs. 15,000.
But still we want this in written.

Well Roby i dont so any harm in giving in writing that all your dues are clear (if he has deposited the said amount in your bank Account)

no he has not deposited any money, well i have no issues in writing that all my dues are clear after receiving amount and my things in working condition...
but obviously that will be done only after i receive the payment and my items..
they can keep the receipt after payment and the tracking details, but once i send them the mail without receiving anything further problems will be imposed

have sent them details long back, (acc. details and address) rajjaiswal, even i'm awaiting payment..
i don't anymore trust these guys

Hence i said "only if he has deposited the said amount in your bank account" just be a bit careful , on the other hand after seeing all this i will think a 1000 time's before ordering anything from them

You will get the payment of Rs. 15,000 by Tuesday(19th August 2014).

1. Sunday and Monday banks are closed.
2. After that we'll need the Written assurance.

done

I am posting this here as Mr. nithin raj suggested,
I bought a new turnigy balance charger from this guy called Mohit Bn (1ZzZ1) . payed him Rs. 500 more than a month back, at these times he has response to all my calls, but after payment is made he never picked calls. After waiting 1-2 weeks, as I didn't got the charger delivered, I again tried contacting him. after 2-3 days of regularly trying to call him, one day he came online in the forum and says he send the charger through VRL logistics - so I went to palakkad office of this VRL and again I lose 50Rs bus fare.

But no luck - then again unattended calls  - after few more days he comes up with a SMS that his phone fell in water , it's not working and that's why he is not responding. Then through PM he said that the package returned to him  , so I asked him to send it through speed post - and he replied he will do that by the next day morning -now again 2 week passed, still no reply nor parcel from him.
I think I lost my money.

All I have is his phone number, his bank account details, can I do something against this fraud with the details ?

while checking his profile it seems , he mainly uses rcindia to post 'to sell' ads. though he says item booked, item shipped, item sold n many posts, I can't get somebody who really bought an item from him
Now what should I do, has any one bought anything from this guy ?

BTW, I have all the conversation I had with this person through PM saved.

There is nothing you can do. Buying from eBay is safer.

I purchased a Kk2.1 board from him and the board is not working fine.

Issue:

The Sensors O/P is dead.

Details:

http://www.rcindia.org/multirotors/re-made-quad-somethings-wrong/ (http://www.rcindia.org/multirotors/re-made-quad-somethings-wrong/)

After lot of issues, One that is with the board is that sensor:
1> Values don't move when in the Sensor Test (values stuck at 512 )
2> the bubble in Acc Bubble doesn't move when he board is moved.
3> Nor does the Gyro bubble.


NOW THIS GUY says that " Since the board isn't saying 'SENSOR NOT OK', there is nothing wrong with the board."

WTF ! . He gives me a bad board and now is not willing to either replace it or refund it.

What am I to do now ???

Please help guys, I'm already on a budget and cant afford to buy a new board now again :(

I am not sure what you can do. Buying stuff from people is always a risk, at least hobby stores have a specified return policy. Maybe you could take the board to some store that does soldering work and check the sensor IC solder joints.
If you collected the board from him personally, you should have run a sensor test then itself to check that is fine.

He doesnt have much experience in KK boards ... so IDK if he will be able to help. Will talk to him again i guess.

He is just a seller not a hobbyist, so you cant expect him to reply now, he lives in delhi i guess, and you live in noida so you should have picked up the board personally,do you have his address?

yes I have.  and I took it personally Rs130 per trip :P

If you have his address, you can go to his house and talk to him, if he say the board was working fine,tell him to refund the money, but still he is just a seller and have no information about the hobby, he will just close the door and you will suffer, but you can make his business suffer, leave a negative feedback,and spread the word
About the board, you Have to find someone who can repair your board,but repairing will be an headache
Well best of luck for the struggle

Talk to him,
P.S : this person ribz was active for this while with his multirotor sale threads even he was online at 5pm today, And yes I should say, some of his pricing where good . But this is not fare, he should have posted his side publicly.

I agree. Lets see what happens. He has his exams ON. Will probably contact later ...

I have been helping you parichay with advice /freebies , it's sad to see how you behave...
I have been positive to all your queries and am willing to get you the board replacement from my seller which was decided long back., still you wanted an immediate replacement for which I dint had the board
I have done 10+ trade here with fairly positive reviews but inspite of me willing to replace the fully functional board with you (did I say that the board was checked and found to be working) you are not happy with the trade?
Is that because I'm not able to spare time (don't even have much experience) to tune your kk and you aren't able to setup your board?

Well, @Mr.Ribz, Now we heard your side too - Misunderstandings happens,
as a seller, your side is clear - Anyone here won't stop purchasing from you because of this issue - if you solve it out.

What I have understood, By speaking in detail with Mr. Gautam, is, the KK board is indeed damaged It is not a calibration or setup issue.

So now it is your choice,  How you treat your customers.

nothing against you @Ribz but saying that there is nothing wrong with the board when clearly there is, is what irritated me.I know ou are busy with the papers now, but I need a confirmation from your side that I would get a replacement board as the board is clearly non-functional.
It hurts me to the core that I paid money for the board and now its all going to waste.
In order to be a decent seller know ways to help out the customer. And yes after this experience I think ill prefer and online hobby store probably because I know that if something goes wrong I can return or get th eproduct replaced.

Learn something from it.

Talked to him again. Agreed to a Replacement/Return.Hoping everything goes well :)
And as I said earlier, nothing against him, probably just some miscommunication.

Did you try to flash the FW again and test?

yes i did that, same issue, didnt help.

the kk2.1 is essentially an atmel 644 - load a program called i2c scanner (google for the hex)
and run the result on a serial terminal in your computer. you should be able to check the integrity
of the sensor ( mpu6050? )

you should get a result like "i2c device connected address 0x68"

been a while so read up on it first.

alright, will do that.

yeah, that way you could test the i2c connected sensors.

The issue is resolved:) thank you for your co-operation parichay

Back with another issue with roby/robin/ ribz/...how many name more i dont know.....
to all reading hope you belive please read till the end

So,you want to by the dx5e tx only for 1000rx but seller says no you have to buy  tx 1000rs + brand new rx 800rs and your shipping 300rs not just the tx. seller includes used neckstrap and some shrinks .you agree with it 2100rs tx+rx+shipping now you recieve your order the tx is fine but rx is damaged oh no,the antena has come off and a small piece of the rx has chiped but seller told you brand new rx correct ,so you call up the seller inform him about damaged rx and that the tx is fine you now inform the seller that you  braught the tx  just to remove the module from it he is fine with it ,you go ahead and post pictures of the damaged  rx that same time on rci .the seller tell you to goahead and try to solder the antena yourself and check online how it is done if any problem then he will see you call a friend from rci and inform him about the same this friend say if seller says he will see goahead and solder, now  keep in mind here the seller doesnt mention anything about the tx and he knows you are  goin to remove the module he can stop you here and you are happy with tx and its yours now,as the seller said go ahead and try with rx so you put some glue and glue up the small broken piece of the rx case and thats sorted  ,now you try to help the seller and be good to him by trying to solder the antena to the rx even thou you know the seller is supposed to give you a new rx you still try to help and take a risk, now here is the problem  you have never soldered a antena to a reciever before ever , so you start doing your research google,youtube,rc groups trying to help the seller by doing that small little solder on the rx and closing the topic there ,  now at the same time the tx is not the issue correct you informed seller that tx is recived and no damages found he know about you removing module so what the hell you open up the tx and remove the module as the tx is now your and you have no complains sellers knows too that you will be removing module seller did not say anything about the tx, now  you do your research on the rx and  then you get back to the seller and inform him about the research you did on the damaged rx you inform him  that the copper trace has come off the rx board.and that you can't glue the antenna back on. It has to be soldered to the circuit board, and that will be difficult or impossible given the damage as you dont see any solder on  the board aswell.now like we know rx is the heart of the airplane why take a risk better take a refund or replacement.you inform the seller about rx damage on rci,
now the seller tell you on rci that you are his priority and that he will give you a refund or replacement of the rx ,so all good and you are fine with it here again the seller doent say a word about the tx and you know he is goin to replace or refund the rx so you still digging into that open tx trying to remove the module.now suddenly   the seller changes his mind and tells you, no he cannot give you a refund for 800rs (price you paid for the rx).and that you should ship the tx and rx back to him he will give you a refund but now the full amout 2100rs and yes ,Again  you have to pay for shipping that is 300rs again or may be more were you stay ,now you in a soup because you have opened the tx already and removed the module from it since the tx was not an issue only the rx was The problem and the seller said he will refund or replace the rx .... now seller says he is a college student,price was dirt cheap,gave you shrink wraps, neck strap,says he invested a lot in the tx, he also starts to blame you saying that You your self destroyed the rx you did not want it anyway And that you forced him to sell the tx and rx when clearly in a thread he mention 1800rs for you only no one else ...... blah blah now Finally seller says he will not refund you anything ....now what ...was it your falt you recieved a damaged rx,was it your falt you opened the tx after informing seller ,was it your falt for trying to help.
seller robin/ ribz

I think so this was the reason why he never posted a pic on his thread .

may be, he mailed me the pic of tx but not rx , i agree it could be shipping problem, but still he should just refund or replace rx like he said, now he has fixed me by telling me to  send him the tx and rx inspite of knowing i was goin to open the tx for the guts he is trying to get rid of this by asking me to ship tx back, i dont mind sending back only the rx for a replacement or refund but tx is now trashed and module given to a friend. the worst part is he blames me for destroying the rx unbeliveable .

Here the pics of the tx 1000rs he sent me and rx 800rs  + shipping 300rs.

 See here for your self lhs and rci member these were his words on post# 16 http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/ground-stations-(cameras-and-lcd)-for-sale/ (http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/ground-stations-(cameras-and-lcd)-for-sale/)   he says "no worries, i'll refund you or send you a replacement"now  since he was going to refund or replace the rx for me yes i opened the tx and took the module ,as here the tx has nothing to do and he knew that i was goin to take it off i told him my self he was fine with this . this guy is a fraud he is building up stories now saying that it was a package,i never called to threaten infact he was pleading me not to post on rci and telling me to solder it my self see for your self again here he says it post#16 this is what he says "if you want you can send it right away, or just try to check soldering rx" ,check here  http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/ground-stations-(cameras-and-lcd)-for-sale/ (http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/ground-stations-(cameras-and-lcd)-for-sale/)   then when i tried to help him by checking if soldering is possible i realised that it is not possible see here for your self post# 19 onwards  http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1950698&page=2#post30922420 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1950698&page=2#post30922420) when i told him its not possible he started saying no refund or replacement for rx send tx and rx back he was even giving me sorrowful stories that he is a student.....blah blah blah,so i had to put this in all his threads for all rci memeber to know the thuth and not get cheated by him he gives stuff for free and then trys selling here on rci never puts up pictures ,why? please dont buy from this guy he cant keep up and honor his own words.I have proved so much now ... i only opened the tx because he said he will refund the rx  or replace the rx and that would be it tx is not in the story at all now he suddenly turns back saying give him back the tx..... and making up new stories about this.

You should be aware when someone comes back after sometime and started posting from another handle name.

Yup actually, im sure he will change his name again and try to sell beware of sending  money to delhi here
state bank of india
rewa city branch
ifsc code-sbin0004667
acc no.31018936290
bank code-04667
tel 9555569902

he may change these details also such a cheat

Chek his previous handle name. And most sale he does has no pics at all.

Look at this guys mr.robin,roby ribz braught the tx for 1000rs says he invested a lot in it what a cheat  hahaha ,i thaught he had braught it brand new , may be he damaged the rx too and sold it to me .......he also told me that he lost the trims while flying ,in the grass then again thats a lie.....see here www.rcindia.org/for-sale-completed/well-used-spektrum-dx5e-for-sale-rs-1000/ (http://)

Im fed up of this over 800buck, only god will judge now,i spoke the truth with proof so dont want your 800rs refund or your replacements,use it in a good way ........ and close this topic, it getting to long now..do not expect a reply from me About this topic .... and god bless you.

 i will now hack the rx and tx and improve my knowledge in electronics with help from the forum and research.wish me luck.

After going through these posts,am really worried about buying anything from individual sellers.

I think these sort of dealings must be treated with permanent banning from site :banghead:.But as already said, they may return in different outfit.Only option is to stick to reliable sellers. :(

We can ban ip + mac add + user id + email id  ( ip and Mac can be multiple ) that way it may be possible
Another way is, on signing up new users ask for a government I'd proof
That will reduce the possibility of same user coming back and remove out the possibility of fraudulent activities

Hi Admin,

I bought a battery and a charger from kshitij saa and i have been conned, first he sent me a fake shipping no. and he told me that he shipped the parcel on Monday 7th September, 2015 but when i transferred the amount of 4200 in his account on Wednesday 9th as he was after me. he shipped it on Wednesday. today when i received the battery and charger i was shocked to see the battery bloated and the charger in really bad condition. the pictures he sent me were old i guess. I called him to return my money but he said he has spent it and will give me back later. i just received the parcel so i am posting this. i have all the call recorded and if he doesn't returns my money. i am going to take legal action.

also suggest me what to do as i don't trust this guy and i know hes gonna give me a run for my money.

i called him again and he is saying i dont have money now.

its really bothering me now i said ill take legal action to which he said do whatever you want

Yes . You should have done a background research. 



http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/clearing-some-misc-items-10rtf-planes-and-a-lot-more/msg236687/#msg236687

all member may i have your attention please as per the above issue "i forgot to mention that i have been repayed by robin/roby/ribz long back and forgot to mention just seen a post her and thaought of it, i do see he is a nice person to deal with., further insight and a good conversation between  the two of us we realised  that the product was damaged in shipping" ....thanks roby for repaying and for the lovely goodies........well i can now say that roby is a reliable person . A kind request to admin to please remove robin/roby/ribz from this thread and wish him all the best

hey thanks :)

No prob roby  all the best with your future sales .......keep them packages well wraped before shipping.

sure will :)

Anything with micro contact me first with pm..... (:|~ (:|~ (:|~

very unlikely for me to come across micro stuff, but in case i do, you're in my freebie list

Hi, it's sad that I have to bring this here.
I have sold my walkers x350 pro. With some accessories to Mr. Aryapotdar.
The deal was finalized for 23k shipped.
He first deposited 20k and said the rest will be deposited soon.
I then shipped the package.
He was posponeding the 3k deposit for over a 10 days now.
And since 3-4 days ,he is not picking up the phone too.
Kindly, help me out here.

His username aryapotdar

Mods kindly help here.
Kindly assist me.
Mr. Arya potdar as my 8 rechargable aa size batteries too.

Thanks everyone for the help.
The problem is being sorted now.
And thanks Dr. Nayeem for the support.

has anyone dealt with " THE HOBBY SHOP" Hyderabad with webiste
www.thehobindex.php?main_page=indexbyshop.in/ I am having a problem with this guy whoever he is....odered placed made payment but not replying on dispatch of the goods....Pls assist anyone knows his name & whereabouts in hyderabad.
Regards

This fellow aryapotdar is relly a con guys.
Moderators kindly ban him.
It has been a long time.
He promises to send me batteries..And still has not sent me those.
Kindly ban this fellow.
He has also cheated another member.
Kindly ban this con-artist.
And save others from his frauds.
I have his address and phone nos.
Ban those too.

Moderators kindly ban this fellow.
He is really a serious con artist.
Big lier.

mods please remove this comment. issue resolved.

Hey Kid, "zalman15320011351"

its a very bad sign of an youngster like you selling faulty RC stuff.

We encourage people to experiment on new things. but not to sell the faulty stuff if u failed in it..

I trusted you and bought these items coz ur in need of money to purchase NAZA m lite. But then U ended up cheating ... :salute: :salute: :salute:

Finally you blocked me on whatsapp and added my number to auto rejection.

As a good sing of a trade. I only request you to take back the faulty items.


and for community members.. please beware of this kid ZALMAN while trading.... :hatsoff: :hatsoff: :hatsoff: :hatsoff:


Regards
Bharath.CH
9908085408

After spending frustrating hours over this D4R-II Rx bought from Roby/Robin John..and many more ID only he knows how many(Don't know why you require so many IDs  :headscratch:).
First of all paid Rs 1800 for the Rx as I was in urgent need, dint even negotiate. When I received the Rx..I coudn't open the parcel as I was quite busy with my semester exams. After finishing them, opened the parcel to check the contents found the cables that come with D4R are missing, when asked him about the cables he said he forgot to put them and if I wanted any more of his stuff..so that he could ship them along with it. I didn't require anything, so he asked me to pay for the shipping of the cables?! Why the hell should I pay for the cables when it was the mistake of the seller? This wasn't the end of the problems. When I tried to bind the rx the bind button just fell apart. :headscratch: Informed seller about this and the first thing he does is BLAME IT ON ME!  :banghead: After calling he starts making stories(check this thread he has done this with many  :banghead:) As it was a simple bind button I let it go as it could be done by shorting the button pads with a metallic object. The Rx was bound that way. When I connected it to my FC the goddamn Rx doesn't output any signal. Triple checked my connection everything was fine. Put My own D4R worked as charm. So the Rx bought from him was a busted one. Now when I tell him(roby) this he does the same thing BLAMES IT ON ME! Says you don't know how to use them!

My fault: I did not check the item on arrival :banghead: And seller takes advantage of this and blames it on me for destroying the RX

To Robin: You can enjoy the 1800 that you have earned by selling the faulty Rx..but remember no CHEAT escapes.

PLEASE MAINTAIN CAUTION WHILE DEALING WITH THIS GUY

need admins assistance here, this guy has confirmed me like thrice, the functionality of the product after receiving it,
after 4 days he claims a bug, and then says its fixed.
then after few more weeks, he now claims another problem.
And now he is trying to spam all over, claiming refund for something he must have broken.

Immediate admin intervention required, i can provide all chats/conversations etc.
If admin claims its my fault, i'll refund twice the amount.

Yeah please
I told you the rx is binding..that doesn't mean it works does it?

The product was checked on the day i shipped it, i also have a dated video.
All pics/details were shared with himadri.
He is trying to take advantage of the fact that i have fully refunded all those buyers who claimed a problem here.
If required i will produce the dated video

Also its been 4 weeks since he has been using this product.
He dint call me, but straightaway posted it here.
This shows he is a fraud.

please produce the video! and if I am not wrong you had 4 Rxs for sale so how am I supposed to know which one you sold to me?  :headscratch:

Please check your whatsapp..messaged you..sems like you blocked me  :giggle:

I never blocked you(seems like another of your lie)
I am glad that even after your mockery i got many enquiries and stuck deals for "tools deal"(all tools), "cc3d", "Vtx Vrx", "video goggles", "250 quadcopter nighthawk", and "Radio with module"
seems like my sales went up after your posts.
This is what trust looks like.
And do you know the best thing? all of my clients already know that they'll get a refund if they get a faulty product. But i'm sure no ones a hypocrite like you who makes false accusations after 4 weeks of purchase.
I'll send the refund and hope that'll make you happy.

If I am not wrong I have produced all the proofs or details from my side. Its you, who had failed to provide any single proof supporting all your claims.

And would you stop saying 4 weeks! It hasn't been a month also that I bought this product from you. Even you have the details of the transaction.
Please produce all the proofs supporting all your claims and close this matter here.

1) If seller forgets to ship something, it's his/her duty to ship whatever was forgotten, at no cost to buyer.
2) Buyer cannot leave the package unopened due to "busy schedule" and expect support whenever he wants.
3) If buyer has confirmed clearly that the product is intended as working, then the deal is done there. After that, it's not the responsibility of the seller. Buyer should use the product for a small period of time and then confirm it is working as required.

Roby just post a pic showing buyer confirming item was working and you'll be fine.
Himadari Roy next time you purchase something take the time to ensure it's working correctly before you report back to the seller. Also not seller's problem you had exams.

Totally agreed with Cycloned. I have already told himadri that he can have wires(though i did not promise it at the time of selling, it was clear that the wires came with the new rx, not used one)
Himadri confirmed its functionality on phone with me, and i had some whatsapp msgs too but my phone keeps clearing junk. Himadri recently posted a part of our conversation that made me believe he has the entire backup of our conversations over a month. But for some reason he wont give it to me/or post it, and he'll ask me to post PROOF, as he already knows i have no backup.

Himadri din't even call me, and straightaway posted a thread here, thinking i'll panic and quickly refund.
He is also not sending me the product when i told him i will refund him once i receive the product.
He even wanted to sell a battery on the same day to me for whatsoever price i want, and i'm convinced he wanted to dupe me.
I dint buy the battery, and after few hours this post. Just imagine, he had a conversation with me few hours back and he never mentioned the problem, and only after few hours i get this post here? Can someone even go to his place and check for the rx? Maybe its working and he is creating a mockery, maybe its not, but why wont he ship it to me?

Do we yet have a thread "Beware of dealing with this buyer"
I also list himadri's name as a fraudster here, and anyone dealing with him might be in trouble.

Himadari please upload the chats.

How are you expecting a refund without shipping the product back to roby?

I am the proof that the receiver is not working... I went his home as we are working on the quad copter together... I saw that the receiver is not responding to any of the channels its like a dead module 

I did not want to comment on this topic but seller is creating a lot of confusion. Roby you have provided zero proof and claimed lot of things without giving facts. How do we know receiver was working at your end?

dont know why neil keeps posting pointless things, yes neil, i dont have chat backup, sooli pe chadha do?
himadri ke pass toh hai na? he posted a middle chat ka part.

Just because i dint sell you the tricopter kit or the drill for trash prices doesn't mean you hold a grudge against me.
Himadri can still send me the product and get a replacement.

Ok so the only proof you apparently have is the chats which you dont have a backup of, what about the video you were supposed to share in the whatsapp rc group for which you required 1 hour to post as it was in icloud?

That itself is enough proof, dont make baseless claims and confuse people. If you give the refund well and good but was it required to make such a big deal out of it?
I dont hold a grudge against you but please dont mislead people. Hope you make good on the refund :thumbsup:

How much more proof do you want?

What the ....?
As long as I remember it was you who came asking to me for a 3S battery(Did not even list it on the sale, then how do you say I wanted to sale you this?)(After seeing my sale thread for 4S batteries). And I can quote any price I want, its upto the buyer to buy or not(I am not forcing anyone to buy, am I?)
How do you think I was going to dupe you?  :headscratch:


Please I am done! I don't want any replacements! I will send you the product ASAP also will post photos of the RX(before shipping) so that no more confusion arises. After getting the product please refund me back!

Also send your address again for sending the product back. Please PM on RCI and don't WhatsApp it(Both will have track of the messages)

Please send your address...  ???

Moderator please take care of these people like @roby  who are not not following the rules of rcindia .
Also I am aware  people about this guy , this guy can cheat you so please take care while buying from @roby .
Be aware of this person @roby .
He can cheat you .
As I hold frame reptile but i didnt backed off .
I was to transfer money in his bank but he refused me at last moment yestarday .
I was lucky otherwise he would not send it to me .

You both should take care of one thing.. ie. when we make a deal both the seller and buyer allways be communicating till the end of the deal..the seller should give a message to the buyer that about the last date for the payment. seller should inform the buyer eariler as possible.. And the buyer also keep uptodate with the seller. WIthout communicating each other things like these (b/w sodhitrm and roby) may happen..

thanks sir but i was to transfer money . he gave me bank detail 3 days before nw tell me to back off

Aryapotdar  Guys please be aware of person Aryapotdar http://www.rcindia.org/profile/?u=13292 this is his profile.
He is a con. I made payment on 6th april for a sale posted in RCI and till now I did not get items nor he is returning money. Whenever I call he say to do refund with in 10 minutes but wont do it. He did the same for around 3 weeks.
I nearly called him 100-150 times and wasted 200-300 on mobile bill but still nothing.
his mobile no.7276707428,8983721751,
his father no. 9423858542
a/c: 00000034853276409
I gave info of all these so that even if he come back with some other profile there is a chance to use these contacts.
Dont ever trust him.
He have many stories to say and always escape from situation .
He always say that there is problem with local courier but he wont send any pics of proof regarding shipped items because he will give fake tracking id and say as problem with courier.
If we ask to deposit money he will say as there is bundh or strike or there is big queue heavy rush. He said all stories nearly 10 times each.
Moderators please do block him from RCI
If someone buying from him please do go through his previous sale reviews
http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/for-sale-24194/
http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/quad-for-sale/
http://www.rcindia.org/for-sale/for-sale-walkera-qr-x350-pro-stuff/

Yes.. he is cheat.. making stories.. I have an controllboard for sale..he contacted me via watsapp and tell me that it is not his no. (7276707428).., even i didnt know his rci profile name, when i asked no replays..! and weeks ago i'm tried to keep in touch with him..
atlast i droped deal with him.. Waste of time dealing with this idiot, Be aware of this cheat 'Arya'

I got my money back. I called up his father and insisted to refund me. And after one week of struggling, calling his father a number of times I finally got my money. It seems like it would be better to talk to his father.
Arya potdar father Yeshawant Potdar.
Contact:9423858542
If anyone has some issues regarding refund with proofs of payment you can contact his father. Seems like it would help at cost of time and patience.

I am really done with this guy ROBY/ROBIN JOHN/RIBZ. The guy had asked me to ship the item(D4R-II Rx) back to him for a refund or replacement. The seller was out upto 10th May, so I shipped the parcel after that.
Here's the photos of the parcel that I took before posting the parcel
(http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah197/Himadriroy1997/WP_20160512_0011_zpstg4bhnch.jpg) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/Himadriroy1997/media/WP_20160512_0011_zpstg4bhnch.jpg.html)
(http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah197/Himadriroy1997/WP_20160512_0021_zpslaljinob.jpg) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/Himadriroy1997/media/WP_20160512_0021_zpslaljinob.jpg.html)
(http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah197/Himadriroy1997/WP_20160512_0051_zpsyho7ribp.jpg) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/Himadriroy1997/media/WP_20160512_0051_zpsyho7ribp.jpg.html)

(http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah197/Himadriroy1997/WP_20160512_0091_zpswjgnnvis.jpg) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/Himadriroy1997/media/WP_20160512_0091_zpswjgnnvis.jpg.html)

(http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah197/Himadriroy1997/WP_20160512_0101_zpsir9xjzhw.jpg) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/Himadriroy1997/media/WP_20160512_0101_zpsir9xjzhw.jpg.html)
(http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah197/Himadriroy1997/WP_20160512_0111_zps6qxfdybf.jpg) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/Himadriroy1997/media/WP_20160512_0111_zps6qxfdybf.jpg.html)
See the date and time of the pictures taken

(http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah197/Himadriroy1997/Capture_zpsmbr6y50m.jpg) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/Himadriroy1997/media/Capture_zpsmbr6y50m.jpg.html)
The parcel was shipped by DTDC(one of the most reliable courier post, many LHS use it) on the same day
(http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah197/Himadriroy1997/WP_20160514_0011_zps9owrizbp.jpg) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/Himadriroy1997/media/WP_20160514_0011_zps9owrizbp.jpg.html)


And today I get message from the seller is this
(http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah197/Himadriroy1997/wp_ss_20160514_0001_zpsadpsr29i.png) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/Himadriroy1997/media/wp_ss_20160514_0001_zpsadpsr29i.png.html)
(http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah197/Himadriroy1997/wp_ss_20160514_0002_zpswlpnffgn.png) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/Himadriroy1997/media/wp_ss_20160514_0002_zpswlpnffgn.png.html)
(http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah197/Himadriroy1997/IMG-20160514-WA0005_zpsvkvmbejh.jpg) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/Himadriroy1997/media/IMG-20160514-WA0005_zpsvkvmbejh.jpg.html)
(http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah197/Himadriroy1997/IMG-20160514-WA0007_zpsdrm0gm6s.jpg) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/Himadriroy1997/media/IMG-20160514-WA0007_zpsdrm0gm6s.jpg.html)

I wonder how did this happen in the transit? I guess DTDC might have changed policy about parcel handling. Maybe they started playing football with the parcels?  :headscratch: It wasn't DTDC's fault at all, even others can say that. Seller says I destroyed it and sent him back! Am I so stupid?  :giggle:
He says he has a parcel opening video which he doesn't want to post when I asked him. Also says that he has the testimony of the delivery boy. Really is that a proof? I think a Rs 100 note can do wonders! :rofl:

I was really trying to hold myself back from telling about how dirty this person is, thinking to resolve this matter peacefully but no the seller has crossed all his limits! :banghead:
When I had posted this for the first time on RCI, this guy threatened me with consequences of doing that, made some unknown person call me and harass me. Also after I blocked all those spam numbers he started using some FAKECALLER ID App(Can be easily recognised, all numbers that he called from began with +1) and pretended to be different person by modulating his voice  :giggle: He threatened me to beat me up by sending his "friends" from Mumbai. I am still waiting for them to come from 2 weeks  :giggle:

Also I see lots of similarity between this case and the case with Roman Sir(Roby's dirty blame game, threatening with consequences)

I would really like other people to see the pics and tell me how can the item become like that? The seller has damaged the parcel thinking that he wouldn't have to pay the refund back by blaming it on me!
ENOUGH ROBY! This all proves your cheapness and how dirty person you are. You may win hearts of 100+ customers by providing them freebies but you cannot use that to cover up the truth that YOU ARE A FRAUD
I wonder where are the Admins? :headscratch:

Dear Roby....I don't know why are u doing this...even in case if I was at your place I would be tired of playing those dirty games....don't think that am supporting himadri or he told me to do this....I personally saw the receiver ...it was not in that bad condition that u r showing...please kindly refund him the money

Razertech, i have no idea why you are supporting this guy over here. Do apply a little sense.
this guy posted a 100 pic before sending it to me, why? doesn't it sound fishy?
I have sent over 50 parcels this month, not one issue, because i am ultra careful with packaging and my clients satisfaction.
I also offer a weeks guarantee on my second hand products.
I believe you two are purposely playing this dirty trick.
I wont answer a single question of you two. To my defence i did a complete unboxing as soon as i got the parcel, also have the delivery guys testimony and contact no., did entire unboxing in front of him.

If u really haven't played the trick ...then the damage is occured in transit and we should blame dtdc for this...because I saw he packed the receiver in good condition(no damage) n I don't need to support anyone...m only trying to resolve the issues

i dint even read, barely skimmed through the post of himadri, hard to believe the extent to which some people can drop their self respect accusing of most stupid allegations.
Just to make people sure of what happened, i shipped him an item which he confirmed was working, after one week(6 days) he says a button came off  but he is able to use it, so no problem, and after 23 days the guy says rx is not working.
I told him i couldn't refund, so he went nuts. So i told him to ship it to me after 10th may so that i can look to it and repair it. So he sent me a crushed rx.

Now, the rx which i sent had 2 different anttenas , these has 2 antennas which are very badly cut(maybe from props) and a body which is entirely crushed and a shrink which was never there(i sent him one with original casing).
Anyone who can compare the 2 rx can make out that this one is not mine obviously.

I believe now senario is clear enough

I did not even post the pic of the item before it reached you. After you sent me the those photos of the RX, that you have damaged yourself, I sent you to show what a type of fraud you are!(I knew this was bound to happen so I had kep the pics ready incase you started with another of you baseless stories)

Lol your RX didnot even work and you say cut by prop. I am sure that it was you who destroyed the RX so that you could blame it on me and then not have to refund me back!

razertech did you see the antennas? if himadri never used it then how can the antennas be cut with props?
i sent this picture to him 2 mins after receiving the package.
this clearly makes him a liar here as he said that the rx was faulty on arrival and he did not report this until 23 days because he was busy with exams.
He clearly had several flights i assume.

The antennas were cut by you look at the pics. Those are the pics of the item just 10 mins before I when to DTDC to ship it! How on earth are the antennas going to get cut by props?

lol, i destroyed the rx, i knew that,
i have the delivery boys testimony and the unboxing in front of him
you never thought i'll do such sting on you?

Dont have any more time for you boy, If admins and moderators will join, i will provide evidences mentioned above.
If you need your rx(its not the one that i gave you) you will have to pay shipping.
Not wasting a penny on you anymore

Roby u said that u made a video of unboxing so please show that evidence and those threatening ,fake calls was real....a guy with confidence that there is no fault of his will never do such kind of things

From the begining you have been saying that you have proof to prove me wrong where are those goddamn proof? You haven't posted any of them. Do one thing keep the RX with you, actually make a chain out of it or put it on your showcase, and FEEL PROUD THAT YOU ARE THE BIGGEST FRAUD ON RCI! No need to return my money. I will think that I have donated it to some helpless person. Just put the money to good USE and stop taking advantage of people!

Roby you pretend to have 10 lakhs gimbal business...now add more 1800 into the buisness from this fraud that u made....keep those money and live a happy life

Also please explain the way you deal with people threatening to come and beat up, send friend to do so, making some random guy to call me and scare me! I would really love to hear what you have to say about this! Or again I think you will say I threatened you and you have proof to show that but you will never post them!  :giggle:

i suppose roby agreed before of the rx not working and he asked himadri to send it back obvsly no one is so mad to put a dead rx on his copter and cut with props well i too think admins should get into this and solve this out from most of the members point of view i suppose roby hasnt posted any of the proofs he mentioned he had on his icloud also he has been bragging this again and again and if not so i think sale on rcindia should have a way and they should be a way to trade here there isnt any authenticity of members over here many even have 2 -3 accounts and they are distributing newbies i personally have recieved 2 newbies asking me for help with thier money some and both got their money as we spoke about it in whatsapp group but this case isnt solveable even in whatsapp group   even threatening people after the trade


@admin pls do something to authenticate people and make no trade posts for people who are marked to be frauds for min 2 trades they do ......... ( only a suggestion) 

Roby born and brought up in palika market?

this is nonsense. roby is resorting to cheap tricks to try to pin the blame on himadri.
if roby is telling the truth, then answer these:
1) if himadri posted a pic of a normal rx, why would he deliberately smash it and then send you?
2) you and himadri both want the issue sorted. both claim to have proof. why did himadri post the proof, but you haven't. (why do you need admins now?)
3) you claim you sent the pictures 2 mins after receiving the package. can you prove that? and please don't say the delivery boys testimony, because that can be forged. did you record the receiving of the parcel? because himadri did, and this whole incident has turned in his favor. you claim you have. so where is it? and don't pack the parcel and unbox it again.

So you have only one way to deal with this. POST YOUR EVIDENCE.
Himadri, consider going to the authorities with this. he's not posted any evidence, so you're pretty much in the clear
also, if any admins are online, please intervene here to help sort this out.

regards

anyone who needs the video(evidence) can send me your mail, i'd be glad to mail them the video and details, till then refrain from posting any comments against me, this guy is a blob of lies, i never made any threatening calls lol.
Pm me your mail and i'd be glad to forward you the video
And i shall explain again, the rx he sent me was not the one i sold him, so please refrain from posting illogical shit here

https://youtu.be/SV7UfkOQzdk

video is private you need to make it public so that anyone else can see  :hatsoff:

now that you all need evidence, see the picture i sent himadri a day before sending him the rx

I even sent him few pics of the rx to sooraj palakad and few more people i dont remember, the rx was in the case, very well functioning

now himadri receives the parcel, confirms me that its working
*after 1 week says that a button came off but he managed to short cables and bind it
*after 3 weeks says the rx is not working.

I'm glad that a majority of rcindia peeps have told me that he is a vicious person to deal with, but all those who think himadri is a godess here, i dont give a bull.
Rest in piece of ....

It looks like u already knew how it looked inside.

well he said he opened it infront of the courier person and he has his testimony but in the video he was in a room opened the parcel like he knew wat and how it was inside showed the camera the parts that he claimed were defective :) nice one but well i think it should have been shot with the courier person in the frame :) dont know what to say !!  :hatsoff: thankxx for the video anyways :)

yes, the guy was right next to me, taken his no. and havent bought him for 500 bucks(as claimed by himadri)

You claim that himadri sent you the rx in that crumbled or smashed condition of the package...but I wonder why would dtdc will take the parcel in that bad condition...they would simply deny before registering....this means whether it was damaged in transit or you may done it after the parcel arrived

Beautiful... You unbox the parcel, and are totally not at all shocked with what himadri sent you? You seemed pretty shocked in the whatsapp chat himadri posted. And where's your courier guy? He's standing on the side, just out of frame, and doesn't make a sound? Kinda convenient don't you think? Also, if you were so angry with himadri for sending you a spoilt rx, (as seen in your WhatsApp) you would have sent him a picture instantly right? So why did you close your door, before you sent himadri the pics? (door is open in himadris pics, but closed when you do your unboxing) and wheres the newspaper, or some other evidence that this hasnt been made earlier????  Do we have any proof that you didn't just box it and open it again? (like I had predicted)

It's surely done by roby after package arrived....what I saw is when you dropped the thing inside the packet it fell on the floor not on the bed and that futuba box was on the bed to the left side from the position of dropping

All the children posting here are a joke. This is between Himadri and Roby.

Can we get some admin/mod input? Is the forum not equipped with admins or mods to settle disputes?

Cycloned; do you have some problem with children? Mod input is appreciated. Situations getting worse.

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plus; i see that the package was already opened.
you cant just flap it open.
There was no seal slicing on your side roby.

Its quite evident from the video also the packing was opened before making the video. If anyone uses DTDC frequently, they might know that if a small item is shipped in an envelope the envelope is first stapled at the opening and then tape is applied which carries the logo of DTDC, if not atleast a clear tape or brown tape. Then it is put in a plastic bag. None of this is visible in the video. You say the delivery boy is standing beside you, no reaction from his side after you open the package, VERY STRANGE!  :headscratch:
After all this I know this guy isn't going to make any amends or refund my money, he seems to have all sh*t reasons for every thing!
And guess what I have something to make you happy, KEEP THE MONEY THAT YOU HAVE STOLEN FROM ME! ALSO BE HAPPY, YOU HAVE ADDED ANOTHER GOLDEN FEATHER TO YOUR  FRAUD HISTORY!{:)} {:)}

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bilkul sahi bhai

"rksingh"

This person has given defective merchandise, and in some cases did not even supply the material paid for! Refuses to answer now

Govind2609

New member to this club

Please be careful while dealing with this seller he will send you photos of products and claim to be working but they will be defective and when you ask him to resolve he will say No return policy. He will block you on whatsapp and will not pickup your phone and not respond so assuming he has been doing it regularly.

Try calling his number there will be a delay in answering as his victims must be trying to reach him from different number.

Fortunately two of my colleagues are from nearby so if he doesnot resolve will get a formal police complaint done. Any guilty should be brought to book.

Hi,

Just wanted to inform all members to be aware and not deal with Mr.Hemanthguru. As usual he has again shown his colors. His way of dealing is totally insane and not professional. He only wants to sell of his things at any cost and not worry about it later.

After the sale is complete he will not even take your calls and either block you or keep disconnecting.

SO request all members to stay away from him and deal with professionals who know what business means to them.

regds

Hi,

Goes by name  Mr. Aslad Neenali Ali

RCINDIA - HOBBY CORNER KERALA Kochi
FACEBOOK Page - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063983949391
FACEBOOK ID - https://www.facebook.com/aslad.na

Beware of dealing with him. He is from Kochi but works in kuwait. Imports RC items from kuwait.

I bought couple of rc items from him in early 2021, which he did delivered but the items where damaged. He did not take any responsibility.
Damages where minor so i ignored it and fixed it by myself.

NOV 2021 i bought couple of more items from him, paid him upfront around 1l and till now i have not received any items. He keeps making excuses , stories and keeps lying.
He keeps making commitments about the items and the refund but never delivers.

Recently i found that there more many people to whom he has done the same. Not sure if they are on rcindia.

1. sumit - 20k
2. gurpeet - 69k
3. subham - 1.25l

I am planning to file legal action against him. He is from kochi kerala, if any one can help us out with his address details.
Also if any one is from kuwait, i know the where he works, i am not sure about this but if it is possible to do anything in kuwait against him ?

thanks

Has anyone filed a case against him (Aslad Ali, Hobby Corner Kerala guy ) yet? I had same experience where he sold me a used slash 4x4 with hpi body shell for 25k. I paid him 17k upfront and now it's over 11 months and he is still making excuses like 'stuck in customs', 'agent has some issue', 'expecting release of  consignment soon' et all. I have come to know only recently that he has done this to other people as well.

I am filing a police complaint this week against him. If anyone has more proofs, please dm me all the details. This bugger needs to be taught a lesson big time.