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Title: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: mpnchar on May 17, 2010, 03:29:27 PM
I'm planning to sell my TREX 500 which I built just about couple of months ago.  Done only few flights!!

Following all all Included (you need to just plug your Rx & bind the Tx...and ready to fly instantly!!:

> Fully built & perfectly flying TREX 500 heli including everything that came as a package (http://www.align.com.tw/shop/product_info.php?cPath=22_25&products_id=3099) PLUS THE FOLLOWING :

> 1x Helicommand 3A/D (programmed, installed working perfect) - with USB adapter & software (http://www.helicommand.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=50&Itemid=64&lang=en)

(DOES NOT INCLUDE TX & RX; LIPOs; CHARGER)

EXPECTED PRICE: Rs.100,000 FOR ALL PACKAGE.  (will throw-in a few unused spares that I have - 2x unused blades; tail tube; 2x tail blades; 1x main gear set; 1x main shaft etc - all would amount to apx Rs.5000). 

What will you gain:  A completely ready to fly RC Heli and atleast 100+ hours of time saved (time required to build, finetune & program the Helicommand).

Planning to sell as I want to upgrade to large heli.. PLEASE PM IF INTERESTED TO BUY...


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: Sahevaan on May 17, 2010, 10:12:16 PM
Rs.100,000 ???
Is it written wrong or is that the actual price ? :P


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: mpnchar on May 18, 2010, 02:58:43 PM
Hi Sahevaan,

OOps...its the correct amount (Rs.1Lac).  If you see the whole hardware itself costs about Rs.90K (excluding the free spares..for eg the blades itself Rs.3000 etc). I only hope somebody pays the extra cost for getting fully built & ready to fly heli...that too completely configured. I hope you know the amount of time required for successfully configuring Helicommand...:)

Do let me know if you OR anybody is interested..I can still consider some discount.(may be my time cost of building the heli.. :) I really would'nt want to sell this one off, but I am planning to go in for 90size heli, which is really costs a lot...so cannot afford to continue having the TREX500..  :)

Thanks..
 


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: mpnchar on May 18, 2010, 03:02:56 PM
Just to clarify the TREX500 kit itself costs about Rs.34,000.  Helicommand 3A/D with USB & CD costs another Rs.35,000.  Plus the cost of Tail Gyro, Servo etc etc.....


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: gauravag on May 18, 2010, 03:13:37 PM
mpnchar,
From what I know, for 90,000 you can get a brand new 90 size nitro heli with everything - Engine, gyro, servos etc.
Even a 50 Size nitro heli ( Raptor ) would cost 50k with everything .

I can say for sure that this price is not going to generate any interest.
You need to give at least a 50-60% discount before any seriosu buyers will post here.
-Gaurav


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: mpnchar on May 18, 2010, 03:19:02 PM
Hi Gaurav,

Thanks... If you see the links of TREX & Helicommand which I included... you can see the price Ofcourse, a discount on TREX500 can be considered, but not on helicommand...it realy costs that much...



Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: anwar on May 18, 2010, 03:36:08 PM
Just to clarify the TREX500 kit itself costs about Rs.34,000.  Helicommand 3A/D with USB & CD costs another Rs.35,000.  Plus the cost of Tail Gyro, Servo etc etc.....

Not quite.  The prices have come down.

http://www.helipross.com/t-rex-500-esp-superior-combo.html

This is the entire, receiver ready Trex 500, with tail gyro servo etc (minus batteries). Their shipping is about $25, and even if you include a 20% customs (usually it is lower), the price will come to around Rs34K.  Now if we add the Helicommand, it will still be Rs.30K lower than what is being asked for. 

I do not mean to discredit what you may have paid for the same, just pointing out some current market realities.   


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: saikat on May 18, 2010, 05:51:47 PM
And .......   someone who has a Lakh to splurge is not going to buy a

used heli. Be realistic

peace bro....


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: mpnchar on May 18, 2010, 06:51:04 PM
Hi Guys,

Thanks! Interesting...

@Anwar - As per you the heli + Helicommant itself are worth about $70K...which is more or less what I have also mentioned. 

I'm only hoping someone pays a little more for a completely built & ready to fily heli...(with a host of spares..)that too with Helicommand... If you have used & configured a helicommand, you will understand the time it takes.  My offer is for somebody who wants a ready heli with top quality electronics.. Ofcourse, you should understand, I have not DEMANDED the price.  I have QUOTED... so anybody who's really serious would definitely DISCUSS... Also, Its not a desperate sale... Its just that I can fund my Maxi Joker 3 :)






Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: mpnchar on May 18, 2010, 06:59:17 PM
@Saikat,

Quite disappointed that there are people who think hobby items to be "secondhand"...atleast I dont think hobby items as second hand...other way around, I think someone has put in his experience, built, configure & make it a perfect working one...so buying one which was used by fellow hobbist  would be a real privilege... that too...the one which does not have even a scratch anywhere & done only 4-5 flights..

I'm sure we hobbists are a group who share knowledge, experience, products etc.  So for me, its not about selling & making money, but to be able to share the experience as well....







Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: saikat on May 18, 2010, 09:26:40 PM
@Saikat,

  So for me, its not about selling & making money, but to be able to share the experience as well....




I think you are serious ..... in that case ....well said!!   Good luck with your sale.


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand
Post by: VC on May 18, 2010, 09:46:06 PM
I am not involved in this deal, but I just feel compelled to say something here. I'm not taking any sides, however, my friend Saikat knows a little bit about "its not about selling & making money". I have first hand experience as far as he is concerned, he gifts Futaba Tx's to people and gives away imported Balsa wood and props at throwaway prices. (Sorry Guys - NO MORE LEFT! I took them all... ;D ;D ;D So there is no point in  :banghead: now!)

:salute: Ronny!

As Saikat said - Good luck with your sale!

No offence intended to anyone.

Regards,

VC


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: anwar on May 18, 2010, 10:03:21 PM
@Anwar - As per you the heli + Helicommant itself are worth about $70K...which is more or less what I have also mentioned. 

That would be INR/Rs.70K  ($70K would be a bomb ;D) 

One thing you should note is that you have sort of admitted that a BRAND NEW set of the same items can be obtained in India for about 70K. People would expect some reduction on that, and will probably consider a small margin for your efforts (not 30K!).  It may be best if you post a updated sale price, even though you have made it clear that you are open to reasonable negotiations.

It is a nice heli !


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: Sahevaan on May 18, 2010, 10:14:30 PM
Please mention all the electronics used and the whether or not you are including the Rx/Tx because at the price quoted you should have included a really awesome radio gear :D . Would be interested to know but the price quoted is very expensive ??? :(


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: mpnchar on May 19, 2010, 01:52:22 PM
@Saikat - Thanks!

@Anwar - ofcourse, as I mentioned, anyone who is keen, I will discuss & give the best price..

@Sahevaan -  Please note the following:

TREX 500 ESP comes with following electronics (all of these are definitely included):
> 3x DS510 servos
> 1x BEC

Additionally,  following are also included:
> 1x DS520 Tail Servo
> 1X GP780 Tail Gyro
> 1x Helicommand 3A/D

I am not offering my Tx & Rx as I bought these also recently (JR9503/Jr921)

As I mentioned earlier as well, I can look at a discount for anybody who's really keen.

Thanks!


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: Sahevaan on May 19, 2010, 03:17:05 PM
Im sorry and i do not mean to offend you but your price is too high . I could rather get a .50 size heli .
Happy flying ,
Sahevaan


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: anwar on May 19, 2010, 03:49:07 PM
The Helicommand is a special device, and that is the main cause of the high price.  Unless you are interested in that functionality, there are lots of other choices (including getting bigger helis).

Yet another option is if the seller wants to sell them separately, with the Helicommand going first, I assume.


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: mpnchar on May 19, 2010, 03:56:35 PM
@Anwar...Ofcourse, I dont mind selling the Helicommand separately.. But I know the amount of time & patience required for configuring it correctly.. So was hoping somebody knows about that & would be interested in buying it together.. so that I could just share my radio settings.  With that the buyer can instantly fly the heli without any fear of crashing..


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: n3m1s1s on May 20, 2010, 11:49:08 PM
just a few points mate and please dont take this as a dig at you because its not ;)

helicommand 3A isnt all that and the helicommand 3D (which i have) is alot better so..... is it the 3a worth £250 to £300 or the 3D worth £300 to £400?

is the 500 the GF the CF or the ESP version

my brand new T500 cf with dx6i helicommand 3D ds520  rce600 cost around £1000 2yrs ago

now today i can buy a knock off hk500 for £50 and could get it up in the air with everything needed for £200 BRAND NEW add another £160 for the most recent heli stabalization and you can see i can buy 3 fully ready to fly heli's for the same price i payed for one 2yrs ago (all items needed including 2.4ghz radio gear can be found on hobbyking hobbycity website so you can confirm this for yourself)

now i admit this system will not be as well followed as the trex 500 or even as good but when you factor in that its a 3rd of the price with flight stabalization and a 5th of the price without why would ANYONE want to give you (basicly) the price of a helicommand 3D for for a job that takes 4hours??

do you see what everyone is trying to say to you here?

final thought my 1st 3 lipos came from align were 2600 6s packs and cost me over £200 for 3 :( my last lipos were 3000 6s and cost $34 DOLLARS each :O that means with postage delivered to my door they were around £75 and were waaaaay better than the rip off align lipos :(

 


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: mpnchar on May 21, 2010, 09:03:47 AM
@n3m1s1s - Thanks!

The Helicommand is 3D along with the CD + USB (CD+USB cable are normally sold separately)

Well, with regard to all the other points you mentioned, ofcourse its a matter of preference... Like I know many beginners prefer to start with a coaxil OR 250size heli...but I started with 500 size...Similarly, its a matter of preference and I think that's why people still buy TREX500 (seen some newbies buying TREX 700 as well.. :)  --- BTW, I forgot to mention, I have a completely unassembled FBL system as well for this... (only the FBL head system...no electronics..as I planned to use my Gyrobot900)..




Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: mpnchar on May 21, 2010, 09:06:57 AM
@n3m1s1s - BTW, yeah even I use 3300 / 6S pack.. since i like to hover a lot, I also have a 11T pinon (apart from the standard 13T)..and this gives me a cool 10+ minutes of flight..   


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: lavneetgyani on May 21, 2010, 05:22:22 PM
Sorry for sounding so ignorant, but what is a helicommand...seems to cost as much as an RTF heli, what does it do?


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: anwar on May 22, 2010, 01:29:22 AM
It is a stabilization system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MsubOUU2OQ


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: anwar on May 22, 2010, 01:31:40 AM
Apparently it causes couple of crashes when people are trying to setup it ;)  Well, not really, but setting them up is reported to be somewhat of a struggle.

They do seem to be cause people to do stupid things, like lifting a radio by the antenna in the above video, and an ever crazier and stupid stunt in the video below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOi51Mp8cIQ


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: premvijay on September 11, 2010, 02:30:20 AM
as per the above messages from all rc lovers no one has quoted a rate, so let me be the first one to quote even though it may sounf disgraceful to the owner. Ready to shell something in between 15k to 18K  :) . i am in the hope that mpnchar is drunk when he says my offer and instantly sends me a reply aying ok with 16K :)


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: capt_addy on September 11, 2010, 06:13:56 PM
COMMON guys ... its a platform for all of who consider flying the models as a passion of their lives... so dont use it wrongly and to disgrace the hobby like the above offer made.. i completely agree that the above stuff is little over priced but the owner has already mentioned that he is ready to negotiate with a genuine buyer .. so if one really wants to buy it qoute decent prices.. dont make a fun out of this lovely platform...this was with all due repect and regards to all the fellow modellers...
sorry anwar could not stop myself by writting this bcoz felt bad and hurt that the fraternity is fooling around in here...


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: premvijay on September 12, 2010, 12:31:23 AM
that was just a while shot pal, would pay around 25k.is it ok now


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: vineet on September 12, 2010, 11:58:09 AM
 :o :o :o


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: vineet on September 12, 2010, 11:59:53 AM
realy dont think seller is going to give that much discount


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: capt_addy on September 12, 2010, 01:14:18 PM
well ofcourse he may offer u the heli without the heli command for the price u mentioned .. and then u may go for it ...


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: anwar on September 12, 2010, 04:42:54 PM
I would not be surprised if the seller found the offer borderline insulting :(  I would suggest that buyers make reasonable offers for the items, preferably via PM.


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: capt_addy on September 12, 2010, 06:25:42 PM
very well said anwar sir


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: mpnchar on September 13, 2010, 12:48:32 PM
Hi All....

I'm really surprised that the thread is still getting messages... :)  Anyway, I realized there are better places with more open minded, well informed & true hobbists elsewhere... and I'm active over there... Thanks for all your responses...


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: anwar on September 13, 2010, 02:30:31 PM
People seem to be getting various responses and opinions based on what is up for sale, at what prices in comparison with current market rates !

Like this feedback from a member on how fast he was able to sell a whole bunch of his items in record time compared to other places ;)

http://www.rcindia.org/rc-india-forum/kudossssssssssssssssssss-to-anwar-site-owner/

All part of life :)



Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: vineet on September 13, 2010, 04:04:12 PM
you have done your job by posting your sale here , now dont afraid from responses


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: divay99 on September 13, 2010, 05:40:25 PM
I can pay Rs. 70000/- for the equipment
But would require you to allow the payments in the following way
Re. 1 as down payment..
and the rest in EMI of Rs. 500 for 11.6 years !!!....
Please do let me know ;)


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: vineet on September 13, 2010, 07:34:56 PM
 >:D :giggle:


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: PankajC on September 13, 2010, 10:13:45 PM
Like the seller said, he is active elsewhere (just 12 posts and a 1lac item for sale :) ), so was just trying to post the item here to see the kind of response the post generates.

While some commercial transaction is acceptable, I find more and more people just joining to post 'items for sale'. I am not sure what it does for the development of the sport/hobby in general.

Pankaj


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: vinay on September 14, 2010, 07:08:24 AM
Its obvious Pankaj, Not all get time and Continuous internet access or Interest in the digital online world. Hence, they come online only to sell stuff. Especially, if there are a group of hobbyists staying nearby, they would barely have time left to spend Online as they will be busy with discussions among them self, with a few exceptions.


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: bmanoj2 on September 14, 2010, 08:05:04 AM
 :)


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: anwar on September 14, 2010, 06:46:55 PM
For the record, only one post on the forum just to sell stuff is perfectly fine :)  The reason is that such posts may make items accessible to others at rates which are most often better deals than buying them new.  It is a stated goal of this forum to make "classifieds" type of sales as easy as possible, and I accept the blame for too much trade talk here !


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: FlyJoe on September 14, 2010, 06:57:31 PM
@ ANWAR: I had a feeling that this was running tru your mind and 'bang' you mentioned it.

But whatever said - the spirit on this forum is unique and free.

Moderators can decide the moderation.  :thumbsup:

cheers


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: mpnchar on September 22, 2010, 04:00:02 PM
Hi All,

Well, I would just like to clarify, I did not join to only sell.  When I started RC, I really went thru a very long learning curve..most of it in the building, set-up & configuration.  I was wondering is there a place where somedoby can offer services of building & configuring..so that the beginner can practice the flying which actually builds his confidence on the hobby.  But I could not find anything.. When I upgraded to better heli & gyrobot900, I thought it would be a good idea to sell my trex500 along with the installed & fully configured Helicommand so that somebody who is in the same position as I was few years ago...can speed-up his learning curve.  Like many others, I am on the atleast 15 different online communities of various intersts (RC, Photography, Cycling etc..).  Its quite common for members to exchange, sell & buy items.  But nowhere did I see such remarks which really demotivate the members... Its really not a healthy group.. I know things will change...and hence keep comming back once a while... Thanks to all!!


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: iamahuman on September 22, 2010, 04:31:09 PM
I think you are slightly mistaken here




Its really not a healthy group


This place has the healthiest environment I have seen. :) :)


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: PankajC on September 22, 2010, 05:45:21 PM
mpnchar,
I don't think you can decide the health of the forum based on little time that you have spent here. I have spent little over a year here and 1'm loving it. While every one has his/her opinion, I  do not think you are correct in your assessment.

Pankaj


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: anwar on September 22, 2010, 10:18:35 PM
Dear mpnchar...

I thought multiple times before deciding to post on this thread again ;)  Basically I wanted to raise a few points, and learn (or get suggestions on) how to make this forum better.

1.  In this case (ie, on this thread), two things happened.  One is that people pointed out current market prices, and the reason for the same was clarified which is to protect others, especially beginners, from overspending.

2. Secondly, someone made a really low-ball offer.  Others (including myself) voiced our concern on the same.  But if you look at that carefully, the person made the offer half jokingly.  In such instances, there are two ways to respond.  One is to take it in the stride, and respond with something like "for that price, I will sell you one of the tail blades!" or something to that effect, sending a clear yet sublime message that such offers are unwelcome.  The other option is to say it as it is, which most likely ends up some friction (which seems to be what has happened here).  Now which option one takes is entirely up to the individual.

3. Now the most important thing is how the forum as a whole acts and how the moderator acts.  It is clear from the thread that people have come to the defense of the victim.  It is funny that people are defending the forum itself, when they feel it is the victim !

Overall, I cannot see, based on this thread, what is unhealthy, and what can be improved.  I would be deeply appreciative of your suggestions/comments/clarifications on the same.  It has been made clear from time to time (and again on this thread) that we will promote classifieds sale whole-heartedly, yet some mention of "demotivating remarks" are made.  What exactly are the "demotivating remarks" ? The fact that some one low-balled and got called by others for it ?  I have seen much worse elsewhere.  Or was it the fact that current market prices were discussed ? 


Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: FlyJoe on September 23, 2010, 12:09:49 AM
Well put  Anwar :thumbsup:

Summed up everything there... Makes perfect sense

I jus got the "guru" grade with a saffron robe and beads  :giggle: ;D for asking someone to stay of another's lawn...

Nowhere does it say "classifieds with a pinch of salt"

cheers!



Title: Re: FOR SALE!! Completely built-With all Electronics -TREX 500 Heli +Helicommand 3A
Post by: Verma on September 23, 2010, 10:11:49 AM
Actually the fact is that the group here is healthy and 'very astute/discerning'.