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« on: November 10, 2011, 04:53:25 AM »
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Dear all,

I want to offer balsa wood in sheet and stick. The standard dimension is 900mm x 100mm x 1mm ~ 100mm. You can see the price list in attached file here.

Thank you.

* balsa_price_maxim-indowood.pdf (63.83 KB - downloaded 302 times.)
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 09:19:39 AM »
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what would be the shipping charges to india...?? that should be considered while buying a heavy and a large package like this..!!
 
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2011, 10:56:35 AM »
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Please remember that importing wood has additional overhead of getting Fumigation done by the Argri dept, apart from the usual Customs hassles
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2011, 12:06:32 PM »
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shipping cost?
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2011, 10:40:01 PM »
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Dear all,

Thanks for your feedback.

Shipping cost rate to India is about US $1.40/kg of your total weight order (by air freight). Our density balsa wood is between 100~120kg/cubic meter (CBM). Delivery time is between 5~7 days after confirm order. We usually send proforma invoice (include detail of item barcode), packing list and fumigation certificate to buyer before we deliver their order.

For information, below the standard weight of our balsa:
(Dimension: 900mm x 100mm)

1000pcs of thickness 1.0mm = 20kg
1000pcs of thickness 2.0mm = 40kg
1000pcs of thickness 2.5mm = 50kg
1000pcs of thickness 3.0mm = 60kg
etc..

We write min.order 2000pcs, that's mean, you can order many kinds of the thickness but the total order is 2000pcs. For example, you order :
500pcs of thickness 1mm,
500pcs of thickness 1.5mm,
250pcs of thickness 2mm,
250pcs of thickness 2.5mm,
300pcs of thickness 3mm, AND
200pcs of thickness 5mm

So, the total order is 2000pcs. Shipping cost will adjust to the total weight of the total each size.


If you have any question, please feel free to contact us at maxim.indowood@yahoo.com


Regards,



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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2011, 09:54:20 AM »
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hi
  why some 5 members can join and buy one lot and share it equally among us
   by doing this atleast we can get balsa at cheaper rates in a bulk qnty

  for eg: if the shipping cost comes to 100 dollars when shared between the 5 it comes to 20 dollars much cheaper some sereous builders can consider this
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2011, 03:59:15 PM »
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Great News !!

We offer free shipping to India for minimal order 3000pcs. If you have a R/C group, you can discuss to your friends who interested to buy balsa sheet.

This offer will valid until 31/12/2011

Thank you.
PT. MAXIM INDOWOOD
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2011, 05:21:55 PM »
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hi
  no ones is intrested in this balsawood
          atleast to share with two or more people
 if no one shows intrest there should be some reason

   from my point of view there must be

   1- modellers lost intrest in building model with balsa (after foam & rtf planes has been introduced)
   2- the quality must be low
   3- there must be some hassles
   4- custom difficulty
                   lastly (should not and will not happen)
       modellers lost intrest in building


    please seniours can share their thoughts

 
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2011, 10:13:15 PM »
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hi
  why no one shows any intrest
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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2011, 10:43:16 PM »
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Bessie,

It is not that no one is interested. It's just that there are too many grey areas that need to be addressed.

Give me a moment to explain..............
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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2011, 11:15:21 PM »
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This is addressed to Bessie as well as to Deni Satria in Indonesia (are you reading this?):

The deal is very good in terms of the financials. Economically priced, international quality Balsa wood is a rare commodity here in India.

However, please consider the following:

1. You are talking about HUGE quantities here. Not feasible for individual hobby grade modellers like most of us.

2. Too many perceived hassles. Remitting the entire payment to you, Customs formalities, releasing the consignment, documentation etc.

3. India is a HUGE country and we, the members of this forum, are far flung. We admire and appreciate each other but we won't / can't drag each other into investing in financial deals. No matter what the benefits are.

4. 20 - 30 sheets of 3 mm/2mm Balsa can be absorbed by individuals. With that kind of absorption, we are talking about 100 - 150 members tying up to buy the minimum order quantity of 3000 pieces.

5. We are not doubting your quality (some samples would be a very good idea - but we are not asking you for it.) That will/may happen only when we have covered all other angles and are almost ready to buy and the money is on the table.

I hope you have done your reading about this Incredible country called India. We are mentally progressive but chained by bureaucracy. We don't like making false or empty promises.

Sometimes, these GREAT deals, seem very lucrative but we bow to reality and stoically let them pass. We wait for a time in the future when things will be just a little more practical and practicable. International standards are sweeping India into their folds. As far as RC modelling is concerned, we in India have covered a light year in the last 20 years.

Enough being said, do you have something to offer us individual modellers in the region of 20 - 30 sheets of 3mm balsa each?

Why don't you trust this forum and let the Administrator/s guide you into selecting one firm - RCFORALL / RCBAZAAR/RCDHAMAKA/RCELECTRO etc. as an agent for your Indian operations? {There are more worthy organisations and I mean no disrespect to them if I cannot recall their names right now.}


You drop a bulk there and we buy it from them. Set a minimum order quantity and everybody benefits.

End of the day, as I said before, economically priced, international quality Balsa wood is a rare commodity here in India.

We need your product, help us buy it.

Regards,

VC
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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2011, 12:02:50 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2011, 02:06:46 AM »
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very rightly said mr.vc
  this is what the reply i expected from the form members
   i always beleive every thing has solution when it comes in to debate in open
    at last we the modelers in india should get benifited
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« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2011, 02:58:19 PM »
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Personally, this doesn't make any sense.

While VC may make chuck gliders out of it for his commercial venture, how many of us are into scratch builds anyways - leave alone mass scale model builds?

The consumption for hobby and scratch builds would be limited to a few sheets at a time, so consuming such large quantities would result in huge holding costs for who ever imports.

So in the end, likes of Sharma Models are quite affordable source of balsa for our needs

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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2011, 03:18:58 PM »
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Well said! +1 Thumbs Up

However, lets just imagine - what if 3mm balsa sheets were available @ Rs.50/- or so instead of the prevailing prices? Would more people be interested to try their hand at balsa builds?

Personally speaking, I have a few sheets of 3 and 2 mm imported balsa squirreled away for the last so many years. Prices being what they are today, I won't dare use it unless my life depended upon it. Wink
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VC,
your logic sounds tempting, but just look at this forum itself. How many scratch builds you see on regular basis? 10-15 at max? So the commercial side of paying close to 30-40% duty, freight, insurance, storage, breakage etc......
Taking all this I doubt we are going to see a 3mm sheet 50/-  Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2011, 08:09:16 PM »
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but just look at this forum itself. How many scratch builds you see on regular basis? 10-15 at max?
there are many scratch builders here; but most don't post build logs (which they should) and the others only post some of their builds.

I have a few sheets of 3 and 2 mm imported balsa squirreled away for the last so many years. Prices being what they are today, I won't dare use it unless my life depended upon it.
I can totally relate to this; i'll never dare experiment with balsa. At best I'll get it laser cut, that too some well proven plan.
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making balsa available at lower cost is now in the hands of the hobby shops in india

     every one is looking the current senario of the todays modelers but no one is thinking of the future modellers
if the hobby suppliers makes the basic construction materials at economic rates, my guess is many hands may touch on to the scratch build out of which many can suceed and the modelers community nos may increase

    today we can get 3mm sheets but
   triangle
   square
   trailing edge
   leading edge
         is hard to get

the above said suggetions is my personal opinion

hobby suppliers please consider
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there are many scratch builders here; but most don't post build logs (which they should) and the others only post some of their builds.

Maybe we should have a separate section for scratch build/build logs (or rename the DIY section as Build Logs) so that we can directly see who's building what
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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2011, 03:42:25 PM »
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Yes absolutely; we should bring this up to Anwar. I don't know if it should be renamed as 'build logs' but I feel all models which are not build from commercial kits should be posted there.
ps: we are going off topic, this topic might require a split.
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hi
  i think we r going off topic
   it is not how many are building, it's about how we are going to add up the no of persons building the model

   now its in the hands of the hobby suppliers in india to make the most important material (balsa)for building the model to be available at lower cost
 with this i have posted a small workout for the hobby suppliers

  this might be a large qnty but
   sheets 10 (each)+rectangle/leadingedge/trail edge (5-each)
   u can disperse it to 10 persons
  costing less than 12000 per persons

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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2011, 09:03:40 AM »
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       Sir,
   I am of the opinion that many modellers do in fact build their models from kits/
Balsa wood .But the high price of Balsa and availability of Arf's are making them shy away from building their models.The price of Balsa is so high that Even repairing a damaged model becomes sometimes more expensive than buying New.
   Another issue is majority of modelers like me are not able to handle the import
procedure. If the Balsa offered is made availably in India through some LHS then
So many like me will buy ,Provided it is not priced very high. with reasonable profit for Lhs Even on little higher side. Substantial quantity will sale .This is what I think.
       Thanks

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its very dissappointing that no local hobby suppliers respond to this thread

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bessie - since you seem so passionate
why do you not take the initiative and
start supplying balsa yourself ??

that way you could actually do something
about what you believe , instead of expecting
others to act.


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