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Title: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 28, 2011, 06:45:00 PM
I had been thinnking of this for some time. Wanted to document all my engines and what better place to preserve them for posterity than the RC forum.
Over a period of time I would slowly post all the engines I have or may acquire later.
Hope this would help in converting some of the electric flyer to wet fuel engines as well

So here is the largest capacity engine I have. 

1. The plain box hides a gem of an engine. The engine is considered to be must have for most of the precision scale and 1000 hrs job models where you can not afford to have the engine fail mid air
2. Its a Laser 150 four stroke manufactured in UK. The engine is not known to be a powerhouse but for reliability. In fact the mfrs themselves recommend putting a 150 where a normal 120 would be required.
3. The box on opening
4. The engine as it comes out of box. Muffler and carb are not yet attached


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 28, 2011, 06:46:40 PM
5. The carb, the shiny steel part goes in to the engine carb manifold. You would see that the fuel charge has to travel a very short distance and straight to the induction port
6. The muffler. The part with"o" rings goes into exhaust manifold. Advantage of this muffler being that you ca rotate it and fit it at any angle you need to. Same with the carb as well
7. The engine rear view. Push rods, rockers are all at the rear to protect in case of that unforeseen circumstances. This is same design philosphy as Enya of today and OS 4T of early years. You can also see the manifolds for carb and muffler, the carb goes on the left and muffler to the right (as lookedfrom rear). You can also see the crankcase breather at the bottom of the crankcase       
8. The engine right view


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 28, 2011, 06:49:40 PM
9. Front view.
10. Top view. The plug is staright up unlike the enya which are angled to the front making use of a removable booster impossible. Here one can easily use it but has to be careful.
11. Clsoe up of the crank. You would notice that the entire engine with the exception of carb and muffler are machined from bar stock and not cast. Quality is evident everywhere. All metal joints are sealed with silicone gaskets and the engine inspires confidence
12.  The supplied instructions


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 28, 2011, 06:55:48 PM
13. This portion shows that the mfrs recommend 15% oil content and very clealry say that no nitro is required, however if one wishes to max recomendation is 12.5%. Alsoif you notice for gen lubrication and preservation the recommendation is to use SAE 30 or 2T oil. Now that would be easy andeconomical than the prorietary after run oils
14. Prop and fuel tank size recommendations   


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: avijit17basu on May 28, 2011, 07:03:11 PM
Make this a sticky topic and others should also post interesting engines
waiting for the next engine in this series Capt. Maybe details of your RCV engine which is a totally different concept.
 does anyone have an OS wankel?
regards
Avijit


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 28, 2011, 07:04:52 PM
Doc,
I would prefer that if some others have interesting engines a seperate thread is started. And BTW mythread would not be limited to interesting engines alone but would cover whatever engines I have from exotic to mundane
   


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 28, 2011, 07:07:54 PM
Next in line, again from UK and a very good pedigree. But not a glow this time a diesel. Many of you may recognise the form. Yes it looks very much like our own sharma diesel (actually sharma diesels resemble these). Yes if you guessed it to be a PAW it is indeed a PAW. And I have twp of these. Intend to put them in a small control line DC 3 which I have been working on with help of some other modellers  
1. The boxes, they do come in slightly more colorful boxes than the Laser. A bright yellow (you cant miss this in your cupboard)
2. The mfrs details
3. Engine details. Mine is a 1.5 cc TBR (twin ball raced/twin ball bearings) Paw has many varities within the same displacement, but for my intended purpose these would be sufficient
4. On opening the box the engine and needle are neatly packed in poly bag and sorrounded with tissue paper padding


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: vivek.sharma on May 28, 2011, 07:11:57 PM
Manish Sir,

It really looks a CHARMER.

On which model you will be using this?

Regards,
Vivek


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 28, 2011, 07:14:38 PM
Vivek sir, I plan to put these on a CL DC 3

I am having issues attaching the pics hence going to post them one or two at a time
5. Engines port side
6. Starboard side


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: vivek.sharma on May 28, 2011, 07:15:28 PM
Sir that 4 stroke 150?


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 28, 2011, 07:19:01 PM
oh!! That one is going to go in a 1/4 Tiger Moth
This time top and rear view


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 28, 2011, 07:33:42 PM
From the continent. A glow. Not only out of production but the company recently shut down as they could not compete with cheap chinese imports. The lineage is again superb, known for quality and craftmanship like any other German machinery, a WEBRA Speed 90. The engine is NIB and interesting feature of this engine is that it has a sliding carb rather than rotating barrel. Called Dynamix carb. Have read mixed reviews about the carb, will come to own conclusions when I finally get to run this one
 


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 28, 2011, 07:38:52 PM
If you noticed there are no holes for mounting a muffler. So this will either have to have a strap on or holes would have to be drilled and tapped to take on a muffler. Should not be a problem as there is enough material around  


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: ujjwaana on May 28, 2011, 08:13:15 PM
Offff!!! The Laser has smitten  me so bad that I cannot concentrate to the IPL Finale'! Thats not fair Capt!


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: AEROVISHWA on May 28, 2011, 09:54:54 PM
thats a awsome collection...!!!  {:)} {:)} :salute: :salute: :salute:


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: Akshayb on May 29, 2011, 12:20:44 AM
Nice collection, Love English. but Russians are missing ?


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 29, 2011, 12:47:42 AM
I am taking pictures and posting them here in the order the engines are stored in the cupboard.
Two of the Russians are out waiting to be photographed. So hold on to your horses and all would be revealed. :giggle:
Pssst.... in case you did not know it is said that Ukrainians are better than Russians or Brits ;)

@Ujjw
The Laser resembles a pot bellied middle aged man. And is as dependable as such a man could be, neither fast and furious rocket , nor a slouch.Steady and dependable!!!


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 29, 2011, 12:54:05 AM
More shot of the dynamix carbs
This shot shows the carb fully open.
Unfortunately while I took  the engine out today I realised that the slide and throat had started to rust. So some more oil was added to the parts to keep them safe. I am going to get a tin of grease and pack the small steel parts with it so that no way these would rust. The current situation of the rust on this is not worrisome, nothing which a bit of wire brush on a dremel can not take care of


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 29, 2011, 12:59:07 AM
The carb half open
You should be able to get the idea, the rectangualr slide has a circular hole and it covers or opens the carb throat. The result is said to be more linear throttle response. High Speed Needle is on the left and the brass knurled knob on the right is to to adjust the slow speed needle. The threaded rod with the brass ball takes a ball link from the throttle servo. The ball is also threaded and can be moved anywhere on the threaded rod for max mechanical advantage. Not very clear in the pic is the slow speed needle which again is a hollow cylinder which moves over a needle along with the main slide to vary the fuel supply. This can be seen just below the spring laoded slow speed needle on the right
Mechanism of the carb can be seen at the pic (look at the diagram just above the left side of the carb you can clearly make out the slide and the slow speed mechanism 


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 29, 2011, 01:11:36 AM
Since we were talking of cheap chinese imports, how about one such engine??
So here is one from China Shang or commonly known as CS engines. This one is apparently a copy of the Russian Norvel with some distinctive features of its own.
NIB CS 06 Glow RC. The engine was picked up from RCD


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 29, 2011, 11:30:43 PM
Some more of the CS
1. Right side view and as supplied with a piece of plastic tubing. You can also spot the single bolt which retains the muffler
2. Engines front view
3. Close up of the carb
5. Left side view with the CS and made in China marking clearly visible
6. Rear view


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 29, 2011, 11:39:04 PM
The all greek and latin instructions (apparently they did not intend to sell this anywhere out of mainland China, else they would have included bi-lingual instructions as well  :giggle:)

Recommended prop sizes are 6x3 and with APC the claimed RPM is around 14K (not bad!!)

Three views of the engine (but dimensions are missing)  


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 29, 2011, 11:47:58 PM
So moving back from the Mainland China to Europe. We have here an Engine which today is made by MECOA in US who bought the toolings and right for all the engines made by this original mfrs from Austria.
The original mfrs main business was making live munitions and they also diversified into model IC engines and what a line of engines they had.

So here is one from thier line up
1. A NIB HP VT 21 4 Stroke
2. Any body here knows how to translate whats there on the box?
3. Label that indicates whats inside the box. From what I have observed I have three different HP engines and all of them have same box. Only the label indicates what's there inside
4. The box on opening     


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 29, 2011, 11:53:48 PM
The engine is supplied with lot of documents and advertisement materials.
1. One of these is full line up of HP Gold Cup engines (the other line was silver star). If you observe there are marine and car engines as well :thumbsup:
2. The engine diagram showing some of the innard parts (notice how the crank is split in this engine and you would be amazed at how the same feature also figures in one of the engines to be posted later)
3. Technical data
4. Engine as in the box and no that brass thing on top left is not an empty case it is a muffler for the engine. Now you can clearly see what the mfrs made as thier main product


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 30, 2011, 12:05:27 AM
1. Now here's the full muffler. Looks dainty ain't it?
2. Limited warranty from, hold it .... yes Tower Hobbies apparently they did carry this line up in days gone by
3. Looking from the front
4. And from the right


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 30, 2011, 12:12:28 AM
1. Now this time lets look what's underneath
2. And then the rear portion
3. And this is how that muffler fits in, and you attach the supplied T fitting to the muffler and the breather to go back in to pressure fitting on to the tank
3. Same as above but in diagrams


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 30, 2011, 12:15:27 AM
And finally the instructions regarding the prop sizes. Refer to the one under VT 21 and the last one obscured by flash is 9x6

And if you are wondering the glow plug is fitted on the left side of the head unlike most you would see today. Another speciallity is that it does not have tappet valves but a cylindrical valve which rotates inside the head and open up the exhaust and induction port. Yes the RCV concept is not entirely new. Many features were taken from HP 


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: Akshayb on May 30, 2011, 12:38:17 AM
Jai Hind CAPT, :salute:
           I know how lucky we are to have you, on this forum.
And now this is what I call a real collection. And your study about them is also second to none.

I was just coming to know about some Ukrainian engines, and was curious to know more about them, and I know whom to ask.

Those are Zalp-k and Fora Engines from Ukraine.

And also got some infatuation for Cox and PAW engines.

Many Thanks for Posting this beautiful thread and pictures.

Keep them coming


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 30, 2011, 01:28:34 AM
Since we are already with Eurpean engines, lets move a little west to UK.
Here's a brace of them from UK. A pair of repro Mills .75 cc and 1.3cc diesels made by Irvine. Both are NIB
1. The box (it's one big box and these two little engines look lost in the that big box)
2. The indication on the box of the contents
3. As looked from right 
4. And left


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 30, 2011, 01:33:53 AM
Mills continued
1. From rear
2. Full frontal
3. Top view
4. Supplied instructions


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 30, 2011, 01:35:59 AM
And this is what is recommended as fuel mixture by the mfrs


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 30, 2011, 01:59:18 AM
Moving back to glows and this time to far east shores.
Heres a NIB glow for control line. In case one wishes to make it RC it is just a matter of getting a RC carb and swapping the venturi. The engine is bushed and has no BB but being an ENYA means it would last and last and last...
1 The box
2. Mfrs details
3. Indication of the contents in the box
4. First peek inside the box    


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 30, 2011, 02:03:00 AM
1. On removing the foam cover as packed in the box (again lot of literature accompanies the box and engine)
2. Engine as looked from right
3. The left view
4. Front view
These older style engine had the front crank housing bolted on to the main crank body. Now that's a very good thing if you have to run the engine in a pusher application, where the engine can be configured to run in clockwise direction and you can use a standrad propellor (no need for pusher props). 


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: anwar on May 30, 2011, 02:06:33 AM
Capt... why are they NIB ? Are you just collecting them, as a hobby ?


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 30, 2011, 02:06:54 AM
1. rear view. (Housing and provsion to tap the crankase for crank pressure is visible under the top portion of backplate)
2. Top
3. Muffler still in packing (No pressure tap is fitted rather a tap is supplied and there are two locations on the muffler where one would have to drill and tap if pressure fitting is required)
4. Needle and an allen key supplied


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 30, 2011, 02:08:56 AM
Anwar, they are today NIB, tomorrow they would end up being used in a model. But in truth yes there are some which I may never run as they are too precious to run and ruin thier value!!! But again most have been picked up with a purpose to be put in on a model or many a times it is the other way where you pick up an engine and then search a plan to suit that engine


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 30, 2011, 05:59:11 PM
And that Enya 30 is meant to go into a CL kit from Sharma models which I have been hoarding for some time now. And I am also sure that this engine would see service in more than a few airframes, what with the legendry longetivity of these engines? In fact it is said that an Enya has not even been fully run in till it has turned brown!!!


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 01, 2011, 10:28:21 AM
Staying on with the Enya's,
But this time lets see a 4 stroke, a NIB ENYA 80 four stroke. The Enya 80 4T is actually a bored out version of original Enya 60 4T.

1. The box
2. As it comes in the box
3. Engine with supplied packs
4. Accessories supplied with the engine, has a full kit for valve adjustments, including go-no go gauges


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 01, 2011, 10:45:24 AM
1. Side view from the other side
2. Rear view. If you think that the carb is an airbleed type, think again and do your research. I can bet you would be surprised
3 Front view
4. And finally the top view


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 10, 2011, 10:57:49 AM
Staying on with the Brand Enya, how about something older?
So here's one, a 2 stroke Enya 60 III B (NIB now but meant to go inot a same vintage Dirty Birdi)
1. The box (take a look at the texture of the box outer)
2. On opening the box the engine comes well packed/prtoected in specially cut out foam
3. The literature/instructions and see how even the cardboard support is appropriately cut and placed in the box. Pity we do not see such packing these days
 


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 10, 2011, 11:14:44 AM
Around the engine


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 10, 2011, 11:20:34 AM
1.With the muffler strapped on
2. This is how the strap works
3. Check out the attachment at the exhaust end (the last portion can be removed if desired and it helps thread a metal exhaust deflector)
4. Now what is that????? Any one willing to hazard a guess?? ;D


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 10, 2011, 11:27:55 AM
While you think of an answer, lets move a bit to the Asian continent. And take a look at Russian beauties.
I meant engines not the other kind :giggle:
So here's a pair of Norvel 40 Glow both NIB and meant to power a PICA Duellist when someday the kit finally gets built. One of the engine looks bit soiled as the engine has been fed with castor while hand breaking in the cylinder piston fit as per mfrs recommendation.


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: sushil_anand on June 10, 2011, 11:51:33 AM
Manish

That is NOT a collection. A mini museum would, perhaps, be a better description!

Fabulous!!


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 10, 2011, 12:42:21 PM
Sushil, not exactly, wish I had some rare ones which I covet, but most of them are beyond my reach. Just couple of days back was trying to acquire a NIB British Taplin Twin which was up for sale and had to forget it as the engine finally went up to be sold around 400 odd pound sterlings


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: sushil_anand on June 10, 2011, 01:32:32 PM
Yes. 400 pounds would be a HEAVY price to pay!

And museums do not have everything possible.


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 10, 2011, 01:51:18 PM
Lets take a trip around the Norvel 40


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 10, 2011, 01:53:07 PM
Complete engine, some instructions, specifications and an odd thing. First time I ever noticed that the tank level is recommended below the carb. The engine is sure to have a strong suction


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: abhay on June 10, 2011, 05:43:23 PM
I love RC Engines.. you keep om watering my mouth everytime...
If i were a robber, i would have robbed all ur engines :giggle: :giggle:

U know i visited this thread many time but I Never Read it... Reason is obvious


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 17, 2011, 11:41:54 AM
From the exotic to mundane. Here are a couple of shots of 2x OS 46 FX. One is NIB the other on second set of cylinder piston (borrowed from and ASP 46 :giggle:). And a third 46 FX (NIB) is in the pipeline.


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 17, 2011, 11:48:34 AM
Continuing with OS, hereare a couple for shots of an OS 15 FP. Has been used on a model but not much run time.
Love those FP series, not much to go wrong and very dependable.


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 17, 2011, 12:02:01 PM
My love for Webra's might be very evident to readers here. So here is aother one , a big block one this time, a NIB, 145 2T with pump and pipe. :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 17, 2011, 12:11:44 PM
As you would notice the engine is a rear exhaust for easy fitting of the tuned pipe. Got to search for the pipe and post some pictures.
As you would notice, the pump is inbuilt in the backplate, closeup shows in let and outlet


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 17, 2011, 12:18:56 PM
Last batch for webra. The supplied accessories, including the manifold for the pipe


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 17, 2011, 01:36:31 PM
Time to post yet another one.
This time from China, and bought from Indian Hobbies, an ASP 91 4T, well used and in need of some valve adjustments now. In order to fit the engine inside the cowl, a turbo mufller was used instead of the supplied one as it was slightly longer. You would also notice that the choke assembly was removed as there are alternate ways to choke the engine for starting and I could worry less about anotherpart not working


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 17, 2011, 01:42:16 PM
Some shots of the turbo muffler and how it goes on the engine. Due to its desgin, there are multiple possibilities to orient the muffler as per need


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: fly4harsh on June 28, 2011, 01:25:05 PM
Brother,,which one of the above is cheapest..?? nd what is its cost..?? plz mention...


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 29, 2011, 08:46:58 AM
Brother, the chinese 06 would be the cheapest of all the engines which I have posted till now. The cost could be around 3-4K Indian landed here in India. But could I ask why do you ask this question?? 


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 29, 2011, 08:53:30 AM
Time to update one more engine. Guess it's been long since a new engine was posted.
This time it's a vintage Ross 60 opposed twin glow. The engine is new unrun but no box or accessories the engine used to come with (the engine used to be accompanied with a pair of exhaust stacks and a purpose made aluminum engine mount). Still looking for th original items.  
1. Top view (you can see Ross name clearly)
2. Front view
3. Underside from rear also showing the twin exhaust stacks
4. Again underside view showing 10 cc (.60 cuin)


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 29, 2011, 08:58:00 AM
1. General mounting of the carb
2. Close up of the perry carb
3. View from rear showing carb mounting
4. Engine serial number


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: shubhambilawar on June 29, 2011, 11:30:45 AM
superb collections of engines  :) {:)} :bow:


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on August 16, 2011, 12:18:53 AM
Difficult to beleive that more than a month has elapsed since last post on the thread.
This time I would change the way I would post. I am posting a few pictures of diesel engine. Let readers identify what diesel is this and what is the swept volume (i.e. how many cc's).
I am sure it would garner more interest than the old method of psoting
So here you go. Please identify this diesel and it's displacement


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on August 16, 2011, 12:24:28 AM
A couple more pic if it helps


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on August 16, 2011, 12:49:10 AM
While you all are trying to figure out the previous one, here is an old Thunder Tiger 20, Glow.
The engine is well worn out. And the piston has baffle (this was old tech to ensure that the fresh draft of fuel charge does not mix with the exhausting gases. If you were to open the engine you would find that the piston crown is stepped and not flat (or domed) like todays engines.
Even the needle bar was worked upon locally.
The engie was acquired second hand (read cheap) while I was begining to get into glows


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: AEROVISHWA on August 16, 2011, 11:38:52 AM
i think that the above diesel is a PAW 2.49 cc rc diesel engine...!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7arGXXJHOXw&feature=player_embedded#at=78


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on August 18, 2011, 11:15:25 PM
All right, that is indeed a PAW, but not 2.5 cc.
That is a 19 size or roughly 3.2 cc, TBR RC


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on August 18, 2011, 11:20:10 PM
So here is aother diesel, but this time a puccka desi brand.
From the stables of Sharma Models, a SP diesel of 2.5cc displacement
I have one question to Mr Vivek. What is the mark under the shaft, which looks like filled and filed metal?
I have seen this on several SP engine

You can also see the serial number of the engine as assigned at the factory 04/02 i.e 4th in 2002.

If you can compare this with the earlier PAW, can you see the similarities?


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on August 18, 2011, 11:27:53 PM
As probably could be made out, the SP 2.5 is used. Here are some pictures.
And one of the needle valve, see how sharp and tapered the needle is, which when coupled with fine pitch on the sleeve gives much better fuel metering possibilities, comapred to short stubbier needles you see on most modern glow engines today


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on August 19, 2011, 07:53:24 AM
I am sure some of you might be wondering if the propellor shaft on the SP engine is damaged?
No it is not, unlike to what is common on most engines today, this engine has the crankshaft, drilled and tapped for a bolt. The shaft ends flush with the propellor driver.
For attaching the propellor, you simply bolt the prop in the drilled and tapped shaft.
This method was pretty common in olden days and even now with smaller capacity engines


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on August 20, 2011, 10:15:02 AM
Since we are talking diesel
How about a  Russian ??
To start with here is a well used and now long in tooth MK 12, BB rear induction, disk valve induction diesel  
The story behind acquring this engine is also interesting. This engine was purchased by a gent in Russia. The Gent was my father's friend, and while one day my dad must have been lamenting to him how I did not study and devoted far too much time on aeromodelling, the friend informed that he too had an engine with him, which he did not know how to deal with. A few days later, some how this information slipped past dad to me.
And I was at the Gent's door. When he finally gave me the engine, I was a bit disappointed. Even from the outside, I could see that the piston had rust, the engine was stuck etc...
But neverthless, dismantled everything, gave it a good cleaning and assembled back. Thereafter the engine has give super servie and wore out two school marms. Still run's but once the heat is up the compression goes down.
You would also notice that the NV is missing on the engine, the original was pulled off and thrown in junk box as it was no good. A Sharma needle valve assembly fitted and worked perfect, the NV was also removed and put back in to the SP engine it was borrowed from.      
The engine when came in my hand, had the box, instructions, tools and even a short piece of fuel pipe. While the box withered away, the tool and the instructions must be hidden somewhere in all my stuff  


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Post by: flyingboxcar on August 20, 2011, 07:27:58 PM
Now this time let us get back to the British Isles
Here is a well used (actually second set of cylinder/piston and contra) AM 2.5 cc diesel.


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Post by: flyingboxcar on August 20, 2011, 07:59:55 PM
While I have been posting engines which are either awaiting to be installed on a model or have seen service, how about something currently being flown?
An MVVS 8 cc glow currently hauling my GP Decathlon


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Post by: sahilkit on August 26, 2011, 03:52:21 PM
nice collection, i really like the Irvine 0.75 cc and 1.3cc diesel mills reminding me of my COX Sure Starts (although both can't be compared). Hey what happened to your Inline-Twin the one with wrong muffler  8-)

regards

sahil


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Post by: flyingboxcar on August 27, 2011, 10:15:09 PM
Patience my boy! Patience.
All will be revealed in due time. I am yet to close this thread


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Post by: sahilkit on August 27, 2011, 10:31:44 PM
 ;D


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Post by: flyingboxcar on August 30, 2011, 09:39:57 AM
Moving on back to diesels, yet another Russian make
A MARZ 2.5cc rear induction NIB example
The engine comes in a pretty large box (for the size of engine) and the box apart from the engine also contained, a piece of fuel pipe, mounting harware, a 8x4 prop, and a tommy bar to tighten the spinner nut.
There is also a booklet of instructions, of which I can not make head or tail as it is in Russian. Any one knows some to translate??

The first 4 pics show the box and what one finds when the box is opened
   


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Post by: flyingboxcar on August 30, 2011, 09:41:54 AM
Some shots of the instruction manual


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Post by: flyingboxcar on August 30, 2011, 09:43:37 AM
Now for the engine


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Post by: flyingboxcar on August 30, 2011, 09:47:38 AM
Take a close look and you would see how agricultural is the outer casting


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Post by: abhay on August 30, 2011, 05:45:56 PM
looks like water pipe fixtures   :giggle:


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Post by: flyingboxcar on August 31, 2011, 12:17:38 AM
In my humble opinin the water pipe may have a smoother texture


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Post by: flyingboxcar on September 01, 2011, 11:12:35 PM
The only gasoline engine I have is SV 17 cc. New but no box or instructions.
I beleive in terms of power it is equal to a 2 stroke 60 glow but the weight of all equipment put together may be equal to a 120 glow.
Take a look


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Post by: flyingboxcar on September 01, 2011, 11:18:53 PM
The engine comes installed with plasticky looking standoffs.
Also the prop has two bolts on either side of the shaft, which implies that any prop would have to be drilled.
   


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Post by: flyingboxcar on September 01, 2011, 11:22:07 PM
Coming up next  are two 20 size cuties, one from Austria the other from the land of rising sun. One a 2T  the other 4T
Stay tuned...


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Post by: flyingboxcar on September 02, 2011, 08:25:29 AM
A rather lengthy but informative article about the Marz diesel can be found here
http://modelenginenews.org/ad/marz.html
The site is also a mine of information on ic engines


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Post by: flyingboxcar on September 11, 2011, 11:20:49 PM
The 20 size Austrian beauty. Do I need to say more? NIB, two stroke, HP 20 Gold cup.


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Post by: flyingboxcar on September 11, 2011, 11:23:05 PM
I sort of like the polished muffler, and the contrasting thermex coated crankcase.
Have seen and used this engine (not mine) earlier and this engine just rips!!!


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Post by: flyingboxcar on September 11, 2011, 11:24:29 PM
Some more


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Post by: RcBazaar on September 11, 2011, 11:25:09 PM
Looks fantastic...


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Post by: abhay on September 12, 2011, 01:05:35 AM
 (:|~


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Post by: flyingboxcar on September 15, 2011, 10:01:49 AM
The smallest commercially mass produced four stroke by OS Engines of Japan. The OS 20 FS.
My example is NIB.
Would also post the slightly larger version the OS 26 FS sometime later
Till then enjoy the pictures of the 20 FS


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Post by: flyingboxcar on September 15, 2011, 10:01:49 AM
The smallest commercially mass produced 4 stroke from the stables of OS Engines of Japan, the very desirable OS 20 FS. NIB
I would also be posting the eleder brother later the OS 26 FS. But till then enjoy the pictures for OS 20 FS


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Post by: flyingboxcar on September 15, 2011, 10:04:57 AM
Some more pictures of the engine from various angles


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Post by: flyingboxcar on September 15, 2011, 10:08:49 AM
The engine came with a set of tools and a mounting template (why does OS not do that these days??) and a rather comprehensive catalouge of the the then current OS line up


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Post by: anwar on September 15, 2011, 10:19:15 AM
Captain.. what sort of tools ?


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Post by: AEROVISHWA on September 15, 2011, 11:20:11 AM
sir old engines came with allen keys which were of the sizes of the screws in the engine...!(due the difference in the metric and english measuring systems) like the head screws, backplate screws, etc. they even some times came with the tools for timing the valves, camshaft gears etc.

i think OS even gave mounting screws along with the template. sometime back.!

sir nice to see one of the smallest 4s..! :hatsoff: :hatsoff: :salute:


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Post by: flyingboxcar on November 14, 2011, 02:29:34 PM
Time to update the thread.
Here is another engine, a flat twin cylinder glow of 0.30 cubic inches displacement, made in Japan.
The G Mark 30 twin.
Each cylinder is .15 and the exhaust is integral to the engine (can be removed though) with both the cylinders exhausting in the common dustbin style muffler with a single stinger style outlet for exhaust.
The engine back plate has provision for mounting to either firewall or on standoffs
Take a look


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Post by: flyingboxcar on November 14, 2011, 02:49:11 PM
And the last three


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Post by: rcpilotacro on November 24, 2011, 02:01:33 PM
without a Legendary DA-50 ? one more to the pack (waiting for a tuned pipe)


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Post by: flyingboxcar on December 24, 2011, 09:57:31 PM
DA are great engines but not yet legendary. There are others in that category. Maybe after they stop producing the DA's and after a few years/decades have passed they might qualify as legendary.
And BTW I would not put them on balcony wall for the dread of unintentional fall.
Merry Christmas 


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Post by: rcpilotacro on January 02, 2012, 09:48:56 PM
It didn't fortunately

New Kid in the block NGH 9CC (http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=58_61&products_id=888). 9 CC Gas with home brew Carb

PS
Happy New Year


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Post by: abhay on January 02, 2012, 09:55:07 PM
Congrats augustine sir..
I have seen your curiosity regarding this lightweight gasser..

Happy new year  :thumbsup:

Abhay


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 02, 2012, 10:18:49 PM
looks like the carb is a Chinese home brew (the same home where the engine was made) than an Indian home brew


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Post by: rcpilotacro on January 02, 2012, 10:34:17 PM
what i meant was, it doesn't have Walbro, unlike JBA engines (the engineer and the major stake holder of NGH engines is a breakaway from M/S JBA, so i am told). she is going on the test bed on saturday. will give a report


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 05, 2012, 11:47:43 PM
New year and time to update the thread
This time two of a kind, but in different capacities
First off, a RCV 91 CD, and then a 58 CD. The 58 CD was procured direct from RCV before Weston UK became distributors for RCV. The 91 was picked from our very respected member Susheel/Novaudio.
Both examples are NIB.
So to start with pictures of 91. The files are captioned appropriately hence think no explanations would be required. If you need to ask questions shoot
 


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 05, 2012, 11:56:19 PM
Next set


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 06, 2012, 12:02:04 AM
And the next and last set for 91 CD continued.
The muffler is common for both the engines with there being no difference in size


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 06, 2012, 12:07:08 AM
Up next is the RCV 58 CD
Outwardly both the engines are same except for size difference


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 06, 2012, 12:11:46 AM
The next set


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 06, 2012, 12:14:13 AM
And the last one, showing exploded view of the engine


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Post by: abhay on January 06, 2012, 12:44:45 AM
I wonder how many engines you have...  :bow: :bow: :bow:


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 06, 2012, 09:48:30 AM
Not many Abhay, just a couple more


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Post by: rcpilotacro on January 06, 2012, 10:23:57 AM
Manish!
that is modesty !! couple more !! i like that, JBA 50 CC, NGH 17 CC also coming on to the list


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 11, 2012, 12:26:05 AM
Some had earlier asked for it. So dove down to bottom of the storage to fish out this box. Any way it was time to re-lube the beast. BTW I am now only using 2T oil to lube/re-lube all my engines either during storage or as after run oil. For storage I also plug all the orifices (on the engine :giggle:) with a tissue piece soaked in oil this not only prevents ingress of moisture but also ensures that when you pull these out any debris are pulled out and do not fall in the engine.

Any way here is an Austrian HP 120 inline twin glow NIB
   


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 11, 2012, 12:36:54 AM
Some more


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 11, 2012, 12:43:47 AM
And the supplied muffler. How on earth was some one supposed to fit these to the twin remains a secret known only to HP Engineers. Or could it be that though they decided to join to 60's to make a twin but forgot to make a muffler for the twin. The mufflers were probably included in the box as an after thought.   


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 11, 2012, 12:49:02 AM
And if some one wants to see the Russian engine posted at # 60 run (not by me) and many other lovely engines, check this
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urF9GZXsKxc&feature=bf_prev&list=ULFvHEi6DAM-0&lf=mfu_in_order


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Post by: rcpilotacro on January 11, 2012, 08:04:47 AM
And the supplied muffler. How on earth was some one supposed to fit these to the twin ..


One facing forward and one back i guess, :rofl:
PS
this engine, couple of days back saw it on the fleabay, almost picked it up


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 11, 2012, 09:23:38 AM
Gusty if you decide to pick up one be sure to pick up the original Austrian make not the MECOA made. The original command a better value too


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 13, 2012, 11:37:30 PM
Time for one more Webra :hatsoff:
A two stroke 120 size pumped. Bought this used (hardly broken in) and has been lying in storage well preserved in pickling oils


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 13, 2012, 11:51:42 PM
Unless I buy any more I think this is the last Webra I am putting up here.


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 14, 2012, 12:03:47 AM
And lastly a pitts muffler for the engine


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Post by: rcpilotacro on January 15, 2012, 11:52:36 AM
Gusty if you decide to pick up one be sure to pick up the original Austrian make not the MECOA made. The original command a better value too
noted Manish thanks

here is AP 9 going onto MPX Parkmaster


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 21, 2012, 12:29:31 PM
Now this time it is some real vintage glow, and not one but two of them.
This time there's a pair of Gilbert, new and unused, but no box.
A bit of history about the engine from the current seller
Genuine AC Gilbert American Flyer .11 Thunderhead model airplane engine.  Manufactured in the early 60's for the AC Gilbert company, these engines are all NEW OLD STOCK, not reproductions, or used.  They were acquired from a hobby distribution warehouse that bought out the remaining inventory from the Gilbert company during their troubled last years, but they stopped selling them because the sat so long, the lubricant used in their manufacture got hard, and the labor to take apart and clean was more than the engines were worth, so they remained there until we rescued them.  All motors have been torn apart, cleaned, lubricated and reassembled by us, and should make a fine running engine for anyone wanting an inexpensive yet powerful glow engine, or collectors of Gilbert stuff have been buying them for years from us to display in their showrooms.  Comes with all the parts show in the picture,  except the original unsealed Gilbert hanging card with instructions on back.  I am now sold out on these cards, but all buyers will receive an JPEG scan that they can print for themselves, the Thunderhead .11 engine, original Gilbert fuel tank and hose, extra glowhead, universal glowhead wrench for both size motors, mufflers and screws (one short and one long as originally supplied by Gilbert to allow engine offset for control line operation), a spool of original control line thread, mounting screws, and one of the original Gilbert 7-3 pitch propellors.  PLEASE NOTE, the propellor is supplied for collector display use only, for safety reasons, buyers are required to purchase a new 7-3 or 7-4 propellor if they intend to use the engine.  As always, SAFETY FIRST!!!!! 
And here are the first few pictures of the .11


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 21, 2012, 12:47:51 PM
The engine comes with loads of literature, presumably the manufacturers used to offer the engines with their own brand of C/L models and thus included lot of instructions on C/L


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 21, 2012, 01:12:05 PM
Some more accompanying literature


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 21, 2012, 01:42:02 PM
And the last set for .11


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Post by: rcpilotacro on January 21, 2012, 01:43:50 PM
'Interesting ' is good


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 21, 2012, 01:48:48 PM
Next would be Gilbert 07.


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 24, 2012, 09:04:22 AM
The Gilbert 07.
Don't I just love the engine with both the exhaust stacks bolted on? I think the engine looks a proper aeroplane ;D
Also note the plastic tank supplied. It comes in two moulded piece which you join together with a threaded fastner (aka - Screw  :giggle: :giggle:)


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 24, 2012, 09:16:49 AM
In case any one was wondering, the red thing at the first picture is a bobbin with thread supplied for flying the control line model. (Now who remembers Aurora supplying the wax coated thread wrapped on a ply C/L handle with some of the kits?)
Both the engines also come with a spare glow head and the flat metal piece is tool to open up the various parts of the engine without using a monkey wrench and/or pliers and damaging the engine   


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 31, 2012, 12:19:40 AM
Coming up next are a pair of Diesels from UK, a 20 and a 40.
Both have been run (but long time back). While the 20 has  seen some use and the box has been lost to time, the 40 has seen just couple of ounces of fuel and the box has survived too.
I guess the 20 could do with some cleaning though. Both are still in good shape, and due to 2T oil pickling have still not stuck up.
Enjoy the pictures



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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 31, 2012, 07:32:19 AM
Some more


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 31, 2012, 07:33:42 AM
Notice how the muffler pressure tap has been blanked off


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 31, 2012, 07:38:39 AM
And now comes the 20, though the thing looks scruffy, let me tell you it's just the age but it's still great inside


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 31, 2012, 07:41:26 AM
And the final ones for today.
Guess what going to give the 20 a good bath today :giggle:


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Post by: flyingboxcar on February 25, 2012, 11:31:58 PM
Time for some serious big bore glow. It is a NIB piece and a recent acquisition.
From Hungary via good ol'e US of A, a Moki/Mark 2.10 cubic inches glow engine. For those who still have difficulty with their conversions from inches to metric, that is almost 35cc of glow engine and is known for some serious stump pulling power. 
This one is destined to go into a Gold wing 30 cc air frame. Now before you think and say something, yes I would have to modify/beef the firewall to withstand all this and ultimately run the engine rich and rarely would need full throttle.
The pictures are all annotated. So not much explanations needed. Enjoy!!! 


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Post by: flyingboxcar on February 25, 2012, 11:34:52 PM
Next batch of pictures


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Post by: flyingboxcar on February 25, 2012, 11:38:49 PM
Yet more...


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Post by: flyingboxcar on February 25, 2012, 11:43:52 PM
The last few
If you would notice the low speed needle is adjusted through a disc (similar to Perry carbs) you can see the + and - signs for richening or leaning the fuel flow at low end


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Post by: flyingboxcar on May 01, 2012, 06:21:28 PM
Guess you guys had been waiting for some time now for new posts and pics. How about starting with a Saito? In fact my only Saito
A Saito 30 s, so enjoy the pictures, as usual the pictures are all appropriately titled 


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Post by: flyingboxcar on May 01, 2012, 06:30:03 PM
The next batch of pictures.
At the last picture you would see that along with instructions, a nut spanner and a feeler strip is supplied so that the tappets could be adjusted when the need arose. 


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Post by: flyingboxcar on May 01, 2012, 10:10:38 PM
Also happened to pick up an NGH 35 cc gasoline engine while at Blore the Saturday last. Here are the pictures of the engine.


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Post by: flyingboxcar on May 01, 2012, 10:25:27 PM
The engine is shipped from the factory either in rear or side exhaust version along with an extra piston. The end buyer can swap the piston, rotate the cylinder and head to make it a rear exhaust version as well.
Similarly while the engine has in built tabs for beam mount like a conventional glow engine, it ships from factory with a set of standoff mounts as well. Talk of options.. :thumbsup: 


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Post by: flyingboxcar on May 01, 2012, 10:39:48 PM
Some more


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Post by: flyingboxcar on May 01, 2012, 10:48:41 PM
The last picture at the previous post depicts how the muffler comes from factory. You got to add the gasket between two halves and bolt them together (while joining I would for belt and braces also add a bead of high temp silicone to arrest any leaks etc). Here again you can mount the muffler on the crank either upside down or down side up based on your engine mounting. Yet again preference. The muffler material is thick which should dampen the sound but given the volume of the muffler my take is that it would not be something which would hush the engine. But those internal baffles (see the walls) would sure help)
There are other gaskets as well in the package (some I presume for the optional change of exhaust direction where the gaskets may get ripped off while disassembling the engine and thus need replacement)
Here are the last batch of pictures.  


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Post by: umayash1 on June 05, 2012, 11:46:16 AM
Sir,
Do u have any .09 or .10 glow engine for sale..


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 11, 2012, 11:57:17 PM
Sorry No, and this thread is not for sale thread
Thanks


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Post by: flyingboxcar on September 09, 2012, 11:13:33 PM
After a long time, decided to start running in the NGH 35 cc, in preparation of putting it on the airframe.
Given that gas engines require considerable run in time, decided to do it on a bench.
Took the entire rig to the field today and ran the engine for about 40 odd minutes, one more Sunday of running in and the engine should be ready for mating with air frame.
Here is a short video I took on my phone while holding the entire rig and not wanting it to be pulled off by the engine.
The engine is being run in between 2000-3500 RPM, on 1:20 fuel oil mix, I am using Castrol 2T. Prop is 18x10 wood (Xoar). I have not yet installed gaskets on the muffler and the result is visible in leakage from muffler joint.
This was the first time I had ever started a petrol engine. Had a spinner installed for using a starter if need be, but following the standard drill of choke, pop, and fire the engine fired within 3-4 flicks every time, except once when I had over primed. Then again, with the fuel line disconnected, ignition off and flipping to remove oil, and then flip with ignition on and engine fired right away.
Looks promising to me, but then the real proof would come when it is put in the air.
A review of the engine by Brian Winch can be found here
http://www.modelling.christiantraders.com.au/contents/en-us/d91_Brian_Winch's_NGH_GT35_Airborne_Magazine_Review.html


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Post by: flyingboxcar on September 09, 2012, 11:14:17 PM
Having issues posting the video directly here, so will upload on youtube and post the link here
 


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Post by: AEROVISHWA on September 09, 2012, 11:30:30 PM
wont there be a metal on metal contact without the gasket and wear of the metal giving black(oil kinda) residue..??

PS: any update on the tiger moth...! Keen on that build...!!


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Post by: flyingboxcar on September 09, 2012, 11:58:22 PM
Yes you are right, but can live with metal to metal issue than cut intricate shaped gaskets.
Any way here is the link to the video
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW5-OQB40TM&feature=youtu.be


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Post by: flyingboxcar on February 25, 2013, 12:42:02 AM
Been long???
Stand by for some updates


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Post by: flyingboxcar on September 14, 2013, 01:08:31 PM
How about some real classic and vintage?
A pukka English one to boot?
Enjoy the pictures and shoot any questions you may have


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Post by: flyingboxcar on September 14, 2013, 01:15:13 PM
The engine is Taplin Twin Mark III 8 cc and this was the version which was made by Aurora. The earlier Mark I and II were made in England and are distinguished by the 6 bolt head instead of screw on cylinder head. And the Mark III was 8 cc where as earlier marks were 7 cc.
You can clearly see the serial number of the engine, made in England and Brit Pat No stamped on the lugs.
This engine came with water jackets but is missing the flywheel to convert it to boat engine 


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Post by: flyingboxcar on September 14, 2013, 01:18:52 PM
Some more


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Post by: sarfraz1997 on September 14, 2013, 01:26:34 PM
Can some one tell me how to connect the DLE 20 ignition and start it


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Post by: flyingboxcar on September 14, 2013, 02:02:17 PM
Sarfaraz, request you to post at appropriate forum and not flame my thread.


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Post by: AEROVISHWA on September 15, 2013, 09:15:23 PM
manish sir.. is it fine if i post some scans of few vintage engines and articles related to them from some old magazines mostly from " MODEL AIRCRAFT", " FLYING MODELS", "AERO MODELLER" from the 1950s and 1960s and "MODEL AIRPLANEE NEWS" from 1990



Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on September 23, 2013, 08:59:56 PM
I welcome your gesture, but would it not be better if you started your own thread, where we could have articles, test reports and other discussions about the old, vintage and classic model aero engines?


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Post by: v2 eagle on October 19, 2013, 01:32:16 AM
Read almost all the 7 pages of this post. this is surely a Lot of Collection i would say Captain.


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Post by: flyingboxcar on October 21, 2013, 09:48:21 PM
V2Eagle = Arjun?? :-)


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Post by: v2 eagle on October 22, 2013, 12:45:50 AM
No sir, Im ashok. only few people knew me in the field . ;)
I come to sholavaram like once in a month.


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Post by: flyingboxcar on November 16, 2013, 11:28:10 AM
Time for a tiny COX  :giggle:
A cox Tee Dee .09 NIB and with tools. Thinking of putting it on a pylon for my Spirit Glider


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Post by: flyingboxcar on November 16, 2013, 11:30:37 AM
The accompanying instructions


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Post by: flyingboxcar on November 16, 2013, 11:37:17 AM
This time a Cox but 049, Babe Bee . New in pack the tool and instructions are still sealed inside.


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Post by: flyingboxcar on November 16, 2013, 11:43:33 AM
I had earlier shown the MVVS 49 mounted on one of my flying models, here are two more MVVS 49 complete with tuned MVVS muffler. One is NIB and other was bought used. The engine shown earlier is in need of shaft replacement as it is bent due to prop strike. Enjoy the pictures   


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Post by: flyingboxcar on November 16, 2013, 11:45:46 AM
Some more pictures


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Post by: flyingboxcar on November 16, 2013, 11:48:14 AM
The tuned muffler and how it all comes together


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Post by: flyingboxcar on February 12, 2014, 11:09:05 AM
Coming soon.....
And this engine is soon going to be collectors wanted as the manufacturer is closing production of this engine.
Just the box art for now... ;D


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Post by: flyingboxcar on February 22, 2014, 08:16:30 PM
Lets take a look around the engine
The second picture shows all the major sub assemblies off, namely the muffler, mount and cooling jacket


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Post by: flyingboxcar on February 22, 2014, 08:20:08 PM
Some more
The cooling jacket slips on the main engine case. The jacket is slit and retained with a single screw. There are two openings one each for the exhaust and one for the plug.
The last picture is of the mount that is attached to the engine with three M3 bolts. The way the engine is designed to mount or dismount you need to separate the engine from mount and then mount is easily accessed   


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Post by: flyingboxcar on February 22, 2014, 08:25:41 PM
Mount with the three M3 hex head bolts
Engine with the exhaust outlet. The stinger built in the cooling jacket needs to align and   then the muffler projection slips on to the stinger and locked down with a screw and bolt. There should be sufficient leakage  from this arrangement.
The plug port
and finally the muffler




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Post by: flyingboxcar on February 22, 2014, 08:39:35 PM
Rear view
Plug mounted through the cooling jacket
Engine with the mount
The prop driver is keyed to the shaft with a wood ruff key and notice how the driver is also counterbalanced   


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Post by: flyingboxcar on February 22, 2014, 08:41:19 PM
And finally the supplied tommy bar to tighten the prop nut


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Post by: sanjayrai55 on February 22, 2014, 09:53:57 PM
Why is a woodruff key used? Why not a splined shaft?


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Post by: Mjet on February 22, 2014, 10:26:51 PM
Woodruf key is easy to clean and remove.used only for binding.splined shaft has more contact area and used for power transmission.


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Post by: sanjayrai55 on February 23, 2014, 07:14:21 AM
Mohan, I disagree with you.


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Post by: flyingboxcar on April 10, 2014, 06:41:25 PM
Been some time since something was posted? I am sure all the oily hands out there must be wanting to see new one.
Please stand by for a ............... Tiger. 


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Post by: K K Iyer on April 10, 2014, 09:10:00 PM
Why is a woodruff key used? Why not a splined shaft?
@sanjayrai55 sir
Cheaper and easier to make.
Can do power transmission too.
In my Royal Enfield Ensign 150cc (1956), the clutch housing is mounted on a tapered shaft and keyed with a Woodruff key.
Only problem is the key shears if the nut is not locked TIGHT.
Carried a Woodruff key in my wallet for many years.
(Along with a Horlicks bottle in the knapsack to collect the oil when opening the clutch cover)


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Post by: K K Iyer on April 10, 2014, 09:15:27 PM
@flyingboxcar
Apologies for sidetracking.
Just noticed you started this thread long ago.
Will try to stick to the theme.
Regards


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Post by: K K Iyer on April 10, 2014, 09:24:14 PM
Been some time since something was posted? I am sure all the oily hands out there must be wanting to see new one.
Please stand by for a ............... Tiger.  

Oliver, Super, Thunder?
Triumph?


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Post by: flyingboxcar on April 16, 2014, 04:03:58 PM
Well can't afford a Triumph Tiger, and this being a model engine thread so you can leave that guess.
Thunder Tiger.. The only one I have is their early production 19 with a cross flow scavenging and baffled piston. And not considered very attractive or collectible or even usable.
Super Tigre ..... I must confess I have none   


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Post by: K K Iyer on April 16, 2014, 08:23:21 PM
Here's one.
Hasn't been taken off the cupboard top in more than a year due to electrics.
Maybe fly glow this Sunday.
Must spit and polish before then.
There's a story behind this engine...


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Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 17, 2014, 06:29:11 AM
Yup, saw the trainer in your ''mess'' picture. What is it? A PT 40?


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Post by: Pradu on June 16, 2014, 05:18:32 PM
   ;D
have two of these ,
one new but run once and one unused , in box

Pradu


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Post by: K K Iyer on June 16, 2014, 10:33:11 PM
@flyingboxcar
Sir,
Did you notice that your 'Engines' thread
Has been attracting over 30 views
Every day
For the last more than 1000 days
Wow!
 :hatsoff:


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 17, 2014, 06:07:05 PM
Yes I know, and think this thread could possibly be the single thread with highest view, but unfortunately with the current electric wave, the interest in engine and engine design is fading. 


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Post by: essaargee on June 17, 2014, 06:51:48 PM
The roar of engines :Rs:, the charm of engines ;), the mess of engines :o, the head aches with engines >:( and the challenges >:D are enjoyed by only a few now a days. Old timers may still do :bow: :bow:, but the conveniences with the electrics definitely influences even the die-hard engine fans.  :thumbsup: (Contrast from what is going on in their full size cousins - like in the automobile world - the shift becoming inevitable here).


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Post by: chintal on June 17, 2014, 10:31:42 PM
Well in my opinion engines are the real deal using electronics doenst have  that feel
Its just a normal flying
When engines roar its different


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Post by: v2 eagle on June 18, 2014, 12:58:44 AM
We should agree, that majority of the population(US) were inspired and took this hobby after seeing a engine based plane in flight, not a Dumb electric plane.
At least i do.

Ashok.P


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Post by: flyingboxcar on October 25, 2014, 11:29:57 AM
Time for update on the promised Tiger. My example is lightly run on the bench, LNIB OT Mk III, 2.46cc.

So here you go with the pictures.
1. The bible for Oliver Tiger engines. Good read and highly recommended if you love OT diesels
2. The box views
3. Instructions
 


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Post by: flyingboxcar on October 25, 2014, 11:32:29 AM
Instructions continued, and the side views. Note the serial number and "Mod" on each side of mounting lugs


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Post by: flyingboxcar on October 25, 2014, 11:37:16 AM
Engine views


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Post by: flyingboxcar on October 25, 2014, 11:47:11 AM
Some more, on packaging, the transfers that came with the engine (My example has the transfers missing).
Details around factory mod to the engine (These are from the book)


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Post by: flyingboxcar on October 25, 2014, 11:49:47 AM
Pictures from the book on modified OT MK III, 2.46cc.   
Fuel and prop recommendations


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Post by: flyingboxcar on October 25, 2014, 11:52:16 AM
An OT advertisement, and lastly how about showing off your OT? Put it on the bonnet of your car :)

And if you are interested in some OT MK III reviews, refer these. The second link also talks about works modified engine, as in my case.
http://sceptreflight.net/Model%20Engine%20Tests/Oliver%20Tiger%20Mk%20III.html (http://sceptreflight.net/Model%20Engine%20Tests/Oliver%20Tiger%20Mk%20III.html)
http://sceptreflight.net/Model%20Engine%20Tests/Oliver%20Tiger%20Mk3.html (http://sceptreflight.net/Model%20Engine%20Tests/Oliver%20Tiger%20Mk3.html)
http://sceptreflight.net/Model%20Engine%20Tests/Oliver%20Tiger%20Mk3%20&%20Cub%20Mk%202.html (http://sceptreflight.net/Model%20Engine%20Tests/Oliver%20Tiger%20Mk3%20&%20Cub%20Mk%202.html)


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Post by: sahilkit on October 25, 2014, 01:54:55 PM
Hi

Good to see you active on the forum b/w i don't own a car or OT so will put cox engine on my bike front fender ;)


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Post by: flyingboxcar on October 25, 2014, 06:30:46 PM
Dont think that will remain for long there. Ought to get stolen.


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Post by: flyingboxcar on October 25, 2014, 09:39:31 PM
Coming up next is Norvel 25. I had earlier posted the two Norvel 40's. This one is pretty much same except in displacement.


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Post by: flyingboxcar on October 25, 2014, 09:42:11 PM
Pics continued. You may notice that unlike most other engines, there is a seperate insert on the head that carries the plug. To open the insert one would need specialist tool with prongs to fit in those depressions on the insert.   


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Post by: flyingboxcar on October 25, 2014, 09:45:14 PM
This engine left the factory in 2002, you can see the gasket on the muffler joint. When OS came up with the AX series and the Power box mufflers the muflers had severe leakage from the joint, till they started supplying them with an O ring gasket. 
The supplied instructions, dimensions, blown up parts list, and specs


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Post by: flyingboxcar on October 25, 2014, 09:46:43 PM
And finally a sealed and signed gurantee


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Post by: flyingboxcar on October 25, 2014, 09:52:01 PM
I had earlier shown my Taplin MK III that came as an aero version with parts to convert to Marine.
Here are some pictures of another Taplin, this time a MK II Marine.
You can observe the difference in the way the head is fixed to the case. This one has bolts down the head securing it to the case.
The engine is yet to reach Indian shores, but is in a safe pair of hands.
Enjoy the pictures 
And for those interested in some reviews by some famous names in model engine circle look up these links
 http://sceptreflight.net/Model%20Engine%20Tests/Taplin%20Twin%207cc.html (http://sceptreflight.net/Model%20Engine%20Tests/Taplin%20Twin%207cc.html)
http://sceptreflight.net/Model%20Engine%20Tests/Taplin%20Twin%20Mk%20III.html (http://sceptreflight.net/Model%20Engine%20Tests/Taplin%20Twin%20Mk%20III.html)


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Post by: rcpilotacro on October 26, 2014, 10:20:29 AM
manish

you could open a RC Engine museum !! is it on your mind ?


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Post by: flyingboxcar on October 26, 2014, 03:05:53 PM
No not on my mind :)
Actually there are some very desirable ones going under the hammer, and the prices at these auctions are reasonable when compared to ebay etc. If only there was a way to bid :(
http://www.gildings.co.uk/view_online.php?catalogue=1580 (http://www.gildings.co.uk/view_online.php?catalogue=1580)


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Post by: Pradu on November 07, 2014, 11:57:52 AM
I have this antique encyclopedia which i would like to sell .

pictures  enclosed.        https://www.dropbox.com/s/h1i1t9iz60m2cig/84.jpg?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/h1i1t9iz60m2cig/84.jpg?dl=0)



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Post by: flyingboxcar on February 06, 2015, 02:54:33 PM
Pradu,
Check your inbox


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Post by: AEROVISHWA on February 06, 2015, 04:23:06 PM
sorry manish sir... but i picked them up. 


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Post by: flyingboxcar on February 06, 2015, 04:58:15 PM
Ahh ok, Good acquisition I must say


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Post by: AEROVISHWA on February 07, 2015, 07:45:55 AM
indeed... awesome books..

the radio controlled book has the technology that is way beyond yesteryears.. it has all the vacuum tubes , motor escapements and mechanical movements for the control surface movements.


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Post by: flyingboxcar on March 27, 2015, 11:06:01 AM
Time to update some more,
this time we have a repro diesel engine, no box or papers but un run.
An MP Jet 040.
For more information you can visit   http://www.mpjet.info/news/78-mpjet/82-mp-jet-040-pb-classic-diesel (http://www.mpjet.info/news/78-mpjet/82-mp-jet-040-pb-classic-diesel)
Very Mills inspired and piston ported like the Mills.
What better design than a Vic Smeed one to put this beauty in, and let the large prop do the hauling at slowwww speed.
Enjoy the pictures   


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Post by: Arvindkharebpl on March 27, 2015, 03:37:17 PM
One  also missing Diesel frog from uk


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Post by: flyingboxcar on March 27, 2015, 03:50:13 PM
Re Frog, had one long back a red head 1.5cc long back, in a fit of stupidity sold it.
And not just the frog there are so many of them that are missing :)

P.S Or was that a green or blue head Frog (can't recall clearly)


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Post by: Arvindkharebpl on March 27, 2015, 04:20:10 PM
Yes  with red head and twin ball bearing .very good engine. I have two but not in very good condition.


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Post by: flyingboxcar on March 28, 2015, 11:47:37 AM
Next on the list is a NIB OS 61 SF ABC (P)
That implies, the engine is an ABC configuration and equipped with an integral pump.
Just look at the sheaf of literature provided with the engine and best of all, the mounting template, this was so handy, but to the cost cutting measures, OS had to stop supplying this template.
The Carb is still packed, and oh! do notice the nice touch of plastic blanking plug on the carb spigot


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Post by: flyingboxcar on March 28, 2015, 11:49:34 AM
Pictures continued


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Post by: flyingboxcar on March 28, 2015, 11:52:10 AM
Concluding batch


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Post by: flyingboxcar on March 28, 2015, 11:56:17 AM
Next on the list would be an engine meant for this muffler  ;D


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Post by: flyingboxcar on March 30, 2015, 09:34:40 AM
The next engine(muffler pictures posted earlier) is fairly ordinary. An OS 200 four stroke. So no explanations required.
The engine was bought used, original owner having used castor based fuel had locked up the engine solid. 5 minutes with a heat gun had the parts freed, some 2T down the openings and propeller attached to turn it over had the engine and parts freed up nice and proper.


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Post by: sundaram on March 30, 2015, 10:38:44 AM
 :hatsoff: :hatsoff: :hatsoff: Is there ever an end to this Endless list Captain  ;D ;D {:)} {:)} {:)}


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Post by: flyingboxcar on March 30, 2015, 12:33:50 PM
Oh! how I wish there was a way to end this insanity   ;D ;D ;D


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Post by: satz flying on March 31, 2015, 10:02:34 PM
Can I relive this engine?


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Post by: flyingboxcar on March 31, 2015, 10:15:43 PM
Yes send it to me and you will be relived of it


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Post by: Arvindkharebpl on April 01, 2015, 12:53:19 PM
brazing welding is solution.


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Post by: sahilkit on April 02, 2015, 09:40:29 PM
Flyingboxcar do you any big glow engines (20cc Plus) and do they require any special fueling set etc.

PS: Super tiger G3000 

Sahil


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Post by: flyingboxcar on April 02, 2015, 10:17:04 PM
No I do not have many large glow engines except for the Moki 210 (approx 34 cc) and Laser 150 already shown. The Moki is reputed to run well on straight 80:20 fuel and a larger bore fuel tube is recommended. Same for the Laser on fuel mix. These days with advent of good gasoline engines running a large glow is no longer attractive in terms of reliability and fuel consumption 
There is no ST in my stash.  


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Post by: sahilkit on April 02, 2015, 10:31:10 PM
Thinking of picking up SuperTigre G-4500 (out of production) from RCG


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Post by: flyingboxcar on April 02, 2015, 10:51:43 PM
Go for it, if Italian made, I hear the quality went down hill once the production was moved to China by the US owners


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Post by: flyingboxcar on April 02, 2015, 10:53:53 PM
Also do some research on running etc, if the ST likes good amount of Nitro you will end up with higher fuel costs. I would rather suggest that you pick up a good deal on DLE 30/35 if you want hassle free and cheap running 
 


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Post by: sahilkit on April 02, 2015, 11:12:56 PM
i was looking for a non-rc application so gas or glow either will work.


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Post by: flyingboxcar on April 02, 2015, 11:40:13 PM
Non RC as in? That would help in deciding about fuel costs


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Post by: sahilkit on April 02, 2015, 11:41:43 PM
to run the engine on HHO gas and check your PM.


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 09, 2015, 08:25:04 AM
Time to update. This time arguably one of the best ever produced by OS, the OS 108. This example is BNIB, there are two more in the collection, one was bought used and the other has been abused in my possession and currently loaned to a friend for use.
Enjoy the pictures
These are just the packing/boxes two boxes actually, one for the engine and the other for the muffler       


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 09, 2015, 08:27:34 AM
The box opened to reveal the packaging, the sheaf of literature accompanying the engine and engine mounting template, and the nice cushioning around the box to protect the engine 


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 09, 2015, 08:30:09 AM
 A quick tour around the engine. You would notice the holes in the prop driver. These are threaded to take 3mm studding through the props to ensure that the prop does not slip


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 09, 2015, 08:34:21 AM
The exhaust port showing the arrangement for muffler adapter, and the new shiny piston. The package that contains the needle, woodruff key, 4x3mm studding, and ball link for throttle, and the muffler and adapter. That muffler is good size, I think it could easily hold half a can of beer  :giggle:   


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 16, 2015, 04:32:21 PM
Coming up next


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Post by: K K Iyer on June 16, 2015, 05:51:23 PM
OS FS 120 horizontally opposed twin?
God, how badly my Piper Cub wants a twin...


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 16, 2015, 06:35:46 PM
There is one on feebay right now and roughly 7 hours to go. Best, it is "buy it now or best offer" so make an offer if you really want it that bad  ;D  


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Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 16, 2015, 06:38:31 PM
Iyer sir, do you have a 1/4 scale Cub?


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Post by: K K Iyer on June 16, 2015, 07:18:58 PM
Only the Goldberg Anniversary Cub that i bought on my last day in England (1996!) still awaiting build!
Needs a 60 FS twin, not 120, or even a 60 FS Single...
Correction. Does not need, as i have a new OS 46AX. DESIRES is the correct word.
Was on Facetime with ashok baijal last half hour. Both pissed off at sour grapes members!
Stopping here else this fine thread will get diverted.


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 16, 2015, 07:46:29 PM
I have a Goldberg Cub that was built almost 18 years back and is still flying condition, with a 60 FP that has been powering it is way overpowered. Had one major mishap in 97 or 98 (can't remember exactly) and then was repaired and restored to flying.
  


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Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 16, 2015, 08:45:44 PM
I vaguely remember reading about a 9 cc Gasser sometime ago - I think Col. Sundaram


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 16, 2015, 11:50:35 PM
No that was Gusty. That engine was . failure from NGH line. In fact a Norvel 40 gas engine runs much better than that 9cc. Have seen first hand both being run or attempt at running (as the case may be)


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 17, 2015, 02:29:02 PM
To whet appetites and also for those who are still interested in wet fuel engines, here is some reading material written by Peter Chinn about the OS Gemini I
 http://sceptreflight.net/
You would need to navigate to the OS FT 120 page


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 20, 2015, 08:58:56 AM
As promised here are the pictures
1. The nice big box
2. The manual
3. Specs
4. Parts nomenclature 


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 20, 2015, 09:16:14 AM
1. Parts nomenclature continued
2. On opening the box
3. Nice packing/cushioning
4. Front view


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 20, 2015, 09:18:03 AM
1. Top view
2. Bottom view
3. Rear view
4. From the side


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 20, 2015, 09:20:42 AM
1. The supplied mount, exhaust tubes, and tools
2. Love the prop washer with that faux multi bolt effect  


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 26, 2015, 05:20:01 PM
Coming up next will be pictures of fairly ordinary engines from the far east. But post that stand by to oggle at some male jwellery  :giggle:


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Post by: flyingboxcar on July 02, 2015, 09:55:38 AM
As mentioned nothing exotic this time, just an ordinary hardworking DLE, 35 RA
The engine was bought pre-owned but not run except for checking once the Bowman ring was installed and carb mods done by the original owner.


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Post by: flyingboxcar on July 02, 2015, 09:58:44 AM
Do not think that the pictures require any explanations. Have another DLE 30 that is serving to pull around a Gold Wing Pitts. The 35 RA is intended to go in to a Great Planes Citabria


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Post by: flyingboxcar on July 02, 2015, 10:01:02 AM
The last picture is of an aftermarket throttle arm, that will replace the stock arm. Makes life easy while setting up the throttle and highly recommended


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Post by: flyingboxcar on July 14, 2015, 09:44:32 AM
Yet another boring engine, this time. The DLE 55 side exhaust.


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Post by: flyingboxcar on July 14, 2015, 09:45:59 AM
The second batch :)

The next engine would be a bit interesting  :thumbsup:


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Post by: flyingboxcar on July 18, 2015, 05:38:06 PM
Time for yet another Marine.
The K&B 3.5cc Outboard Marine this time. The second dedicated marine in my collection, the other being the Taplin Twin Marine version/
Can any one spell out the most distinguishing feature of this engine?
Enjoy the pictures  


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Post by: flyingboxcar on July 18, 2015, 05:43:11 PM
Second batch


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Post by: sanjayrai55 on July 18, 2015, 06:19:26 PM
The K&B is a beauty!

So many distinguishing features - PTO from the rear, Water pick-up near the prop, with over-sized water cooled head, cable driven prop, no rudder as whole engine swings (outboard).......


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Post by: flyingboxcar on July 18, 2015, 09:28:30 PM
No it has something else that is different from most model glow engines


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Post by: sanjayrai55 on July 19, 2015, 06:21:26 AM
Does it turn clockwise?

Does the carb have 2 fuel inlets, or a bypass? Is the carb water-cooled? I'm stumped  ;D


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Post by: K K Iyer on July 19, 2015, 11:14:30 AM
Jet assist from exhaust???


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Post by: RCNeil21 on July 19, 2015, 11:28:19 AM
Not engine person and know nothing of them but my guess from pics would be that the engine sits an right angle pointing upwards?And output is from behind the engine?Unusual for most glow engines i guess?

The marine engine is amazing though :salute:


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Post by: sanjayrai55 on July 19, 2015, 07:04:52 PM
Hah! Carb opening facing backwards to prevent water ingress  ;D ;D


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Post by: flyingboxcar on July 19, 2015, 08:20:54 PM
Looks like hardly any interest in wet fuel engines these days. Will wait till Monday evening before giving out the answer.


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Post by: v2 eagle on July 20, 2015, 11:47:08 AM
The usable output seems to be from the rear instead of front, and the front side remains unused? Or the carb seems to have 2 exhaust.


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Post by: Arvindkharebpl on July 20, 2015, 12:07:08 PM
where is throttle arm..?


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Post by: sanjayrai55 on July 20, 2015, 12:37:57 PM
Does it turn clockwise?

Does the carb have 2 fuel inlets, or a bypass? Is the carb water-cooled? I'm stumped  ;D

No throttle visible as Arvind Khare said, and 2 fuel tubes to carb - a bypass for speed control?


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on July 20, 2015, 01:43:46 PM
The throttle arm is just visible in the pic where the engine is seen from the right side. The fuel inlet is one and the other one that looks like a fuel inlet is for the needle that gets clinched with a small nut that is missing currently. All K&B carbs have this needle arrangement, but that is not the most distinguishing feature of the engine :)   


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on July 20, 2015, 09:52:15 PM
Sanjayrai you got it in one of the responses, Did you google around or guessed it?
The engine does turn clockwise. The instructions actually tell you to reverse the polarity on your starter.
I need to make a tag and prominently attach the tag to this engine so that I do not end up trying to fire it up like other glow engines     


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on July 22, 2015, 09:46:13 AM
Next up is a superb running engine The Enya XF4 AL Chrome with Twin needles. The most desirable version of this engine is the GP one that comes with a pump but I have the one without the pump.
Enjoy the pictures


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on July 22, 2015, 09:47:47 AM
This engine is BNIB, here is the second batch of pictures


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Post by: flyingboxcar on July 22, 2015, 09:49:30 AM
And the concluding batch, showing all the accompanying literature


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: sanjayrai55 on July 22, 2015, 09:51:01 AM
Captain, in your opinion which 3 brands of model engine would you rate right on top; considering all factors eg Specific Power, Reliability, ease of operation etc.? So mant good brands come to mind - Novarossi, Enya, OS etc


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on July 22, 2015, 02:06:51 PM
Sanjay
I think no person could answer that question correctly, it's always horses for the courses, each brand that you mention have their merits and excel in the application they are designed for.
One may have a favorite engine or a brand but saying which one comes on top in general out of three would be real foot in mouth attempt. 
  


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on August 14, 2015, 03:55:59 PM
So what would you like to see next? How about a big shiny four stroke opposed cylinder twin (:|~?


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: K K Iyer on August 14, 2015, 08:09:49 PM
Yes, Sir.
My Goldberg Anniversary Cub's been waiting for a 60 FS twin for 20 years.

After that a boxer four with Lycoming or Porsche or VW embossed on the valve covers.
Then maybe a V twin labelled HD or MotoGuzzi...
Not even talking Wankels here (though i think there's one somewhere in this thread)



Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on August 17, 2015, 04:55:05 PM
Yes there is a wankel up in the posts. Not that deep pocketed to afford any of the names you splattered all over   :giggle:
Coming up next is a Glow Saito 300 Twin  ;D


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on September 22, 2015, 09:11:11 AM
Here are the pictures of the promised Saito 300 Twin opposed. Saito has two versions one with dual carb and other with single carb. This is single carb version


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on September 22, 2015, 09:12:31 AM
The engine does not sport a traditional exhaust muffler but just two flexible exhaust stacks   


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on January 15, 2016, 08:42:06 PM
Time for an update,
I also realized that some where down all these years I have gathered more engines than I had planned to and kind of turned into a collector of sorts.
Never mind folks, enjoy the new shiny four stroke glow engine from the early days of four stroke and coming from then factories of OS.
The MK II OS 60 FS Open rocker.
The engine did come slightly used but no box or other items. Enjoy the pictures that are self explanatory      


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Post by: flyingboxcar on January 15, 2016, 08:46:35 PM
Pictures continued


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Post by: raghava 054 on June 02, 2016, 09:30:19 PM
what is the cost?


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 02, 2016, 09:35:03 PM
How about 400 $ plus shipping to you for the OS 60, Open rocker


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 08, 2016, 09:45:19 PM
Stand by for a nice shiny (not all shiny though) OS fourstroke ;D


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Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 09, 2016, 05:49:06 AM
The FS 20?


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 09, 2016, 07:26:27 AM
Not the 20. That is already listed at previous posts


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Post by: Arvindkharebpl on June 09, 2016, 01:06:57 PM
 :hatsoff:


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 10, 2016, 03:51:49 PM
So here it is
The poor thing had to spend almost three months at Customs storage but was finally able to escape and will soon see duty in a GP Super Skybolt   


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Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 10, 2016, 03:55:28 PM
Beauty!  :thumbsup:


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 10, 2016, 06:34:27 PM
Some more pictures top and front view and the supplied mufler and manifold


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Post by: flyingboxcar on June 10, 2016, 06:51:53 PM
Last batch of pictures
I notiiced two changes to the standard practice by OS
1. The prop driver has been lightened see the picture
2. There have been cost cutting measures as far as nipples on the engine and muffler go. You would notice the excess fuel outlet is not a threaded brass nipple, same for the muffler pressure tap (just about visible in the muffler pic). Instead these are cast along with the main body   
I also noticed the flat machined on the shaft is bit longer than usual from earlier engines 


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: raghava 054 on July 08, 2016, 11:46:42 AM
3000/-


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Post by: flyingboxcar on July 08, 2016, 04:36:49 PM
Sure Raghav, I will sell you the mounting screws one full set for that amount. Let me know if you want the screw ;D


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on November 06, 2016, 10:34:29 PM
Doing a reconciliation realized that there have been 57 different kind of engines that have been showcased. Time to pull out others and put them up here. That will also be a perfect excuse to relube them for preservation.


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on November 07, 2016, 01:35:25 PM
So as said time to put up few more of the slimers for admirers of wet fuel power. This would be the 58th type
This time my third (and last as of today) Saito. The other two Saito's in my stable have already been showcased at earlier posts.
This time it is an Old but NIB Saito 65  


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Post by: manojswizera on November 07, 2016, 04:38:47 PM
sir, you have a huge collection. And that too so precious. :thumbsup:
A complete museum.


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on November 08, 2016, 05:32:43 PM
One might have noticed the different muffler (when compared to present Saitos). The earlier muffler on the blue boxed engines was same but with shiny black coating all over the muffler. IMHO this muffler looks much better than the current ones.
Here are some more pictures of the engine
The second picture shows the choking arrangement by means of a sliding choke plate that is friction fit. The plate would need to be connected to appropriate push/pull rod for activation.
Also one may notice the air bleed hole on the carb in third picture. The carb is actually a twin needle fuel metering type and the air bleed hole that is not drilled through looks to be a remnant from earlier production batches when the carb might have been an air bleed type.    


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on November 09, 2016, 06:01:46 PM
For the fans of wet fuel, noisy engines. What would you like to see next?
A Laser?
An OS
An Enya
Let me know


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: sanjayrai55 on November 09, 2016, 06:49:26 PM
Let's see some diesels! Not Sharma and IHC Mills, Frog & larger ones


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on November 09, 2016, 07:09:27 PM
Sanjay answer is limited to one of above three


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Post by: sanjayrai55 on November 09, 2016, 07:14:13 PM
OK, the Frogs  :)


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on November 09, 2016, 07:15:39 PM
Read my original and clarification :)


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on November 11, 2016, 04:50:01 PM
Sad to see so little interest in IC engines. I take it that most ICers are no longer active on the forum. Anyway I will continue to post till I run out of engines
And since there was no clear choice voiced, I will post the Laser next

Stand by for a NIB Laser 80 four stroke coming up next


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: K K Iyer on November 11, 2016, 09:00:08 PM
Sad to see so little interest in IC engines. I take it that most ICers are no longer active on the forum. Anyway I will continue to post till I run out of engines

If and when you run out of engines, you'll find at least one or two guys sending you some...


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on November 14, 2016, 08:09:43 PM
That is nice of you Iyer saab, but instead of sending them here to me, why don't you showcase them and even better run them and fly them.

Now coming on to the Laser 80, here are the promised pictures
1 The usual bland white box with Laser information
2.The box opened up
3.The top view of the engine
4.Left view of the engine
     


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on November 14, 2016, 08:15:47 PM
In the last picture one may notice that the engine lug has three alphabets engraved, these are the initials of the original buyer who must have bought the engine from Laser. I Bought this engine NIB but pre-loved  ;D
The same lug also indicates the date of mfg as D 09  or December 2009.
Pictures continued
5.  Right view of the engine  
6. Muffler and Carb
7. And the 80 with my second 150 Laser for comparison


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: K K Iyer on November 14, 2016, 10:46:17 PM
That is nice of you Iyer saab, but instead of sending them here to me, why don't you showcase them and even better run them and fly them.

Captain sir, don't remind me, else I'll be in tears.
Russian twin ball bearing rear induction team race motor...
ED Racer with thick crankshaft housing...
Wenmac 049 with triangular mounting holes...
A PeeWee 02...
Cox's and Mills, AMs and Frogs (incl a 500)

Interred in my past.
Along with a 1955 Fiat Milicento, a 1956 Royal Enfield Ensign, a 1975 Bullet, 1984 Chetak, 1985 Maruti van (serial no 40).
Rotting in the rain in Lucknow, where I haven't been back in 20 years...
Not even thinking about the long lost parallelogram suspension, hand shift 1952 James...

What i still have is last few years buys, and some salvage from Saikat!
Not enough to justify a thread...

Perhaps a single post hijack on this thread...

You did manage to revive memories. And I am in tears, fond nostalgic ones. Thanks.



Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on November 15, 2016, 06:04:17 PM
Those Frogs should be interesting .


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Post by: sanjayrai55 on November 15, 2016, 06:11:38 PM
Was just thinking the same myself :)

Here's some gen on this engine:  http://www.modelenginenews.org/ad/f500.html


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Post by: flyingboxcar on November 15, 2016, 08:23:09 PM
I had that Frog 500 glow (minus the original backplate tank) exchanged it with another (Indian) guy in US for a PAW 19 and some other stuff


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on November 15, 2016, 08:27:17 PM
I just had an idea, I can get the frog sticker made in Vinyl in colour, would any one be interested ? And how many pieces?
 


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on November 21, 2016, 09:15:36 PM
Since the thread has finally crossed 100,000 views since inception, how about yet another engine?
A sneak peak below


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on November 24, 2016, 07:36:22 PM
If one would have seen the previous picture it would be apparent that the engine was supplied through Just Engines. Also the engine nomenclature is quite apparent in the picture.
So here is another picture, a bare bland one of the box that the engine comes in. This should clearly give out the make of the engine
and the second picture is box again with engine serial number. Yes the engine has a serial number and the box outer also indicates the matching serial number.  


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Post by: flyingboxcar on November 25, 2016, 02:59:32 PM
And to top it all, Just Engines autograph and date the box inside, what greater proof of purchase may be required?
And that autograph is from Andrew at JEN


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on November 28, 2016, 08:39:44 PM
Still wondering about the engine in that big brown box?
Ran the engine on bench this Saturday. 18x8 xoar with rpm limited to 3500 max for the full tank. Full tank running was achieved in three roughly 10 minute runs
Here is a video of the engine running
The engine actually sounds totally different from how it sounds in the video. I also expect the note to change once I put in the Just Engines supplied muffler instead of the current short stubby pipe
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCO3k9LAXKo


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Post by: Aeroresurrect on November 29, 2016, 10:19:16 PM
Hi,

I am into IC engines (rc airplanes).  I got two of them.... a 2-stroke 2.5cc glow and a 4-stroke 5 cc glow.
I am facing problem with tuning the 2-stroke (Toki ) which only has a hi-speed needle adjust. I have fed about 3/4 of a liter of glow fuel (5%) during break-in, but still the engine runs erratic and stalls at the slightest provocation. Not feeling confident about mounting it on the aircraft.

On the other hand, the 4-stroke ran almost trouble-free (mangling my fingers in the first run) !

Can I request guidance from experts ?


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on November 30, 2016, 05:23:56 PM
Hi,

I am into IC engines (rc airplanes).  I got two of them.... a 2-stroke 2.5cc glow and a 4-stroke 5 cc glow.
I am facing problem with tuning the 2-stroke (Toki ) which only has a hi-speed needle adjust. I have fed about 3/4 of a liter of glow fuel (5%) during break-in, but still the engine runs erratic and stalls at the slightest provocation. Not feeling confident about mounting it on the aircraft.

On the other hand, the 4-stroke ran almost trouble-free (mangling my fingers in the first run) !

Can I request guidance from experts ?


Ok-ay first thing first
It would help, if you learned where to post what. You already have a separate thread running for the query you posted and people did try to help you there but looks like you are not interested.
And did you forget to tell us what did you do during the last 6 months since you were helped with advice to your original query?  

Second
Since you asked for help, my advice - Get help from some one experienced or if you want to strike it alone, learn from www, there is enough wisdom out there if you care to learn, but be aware, not everything out there is gem, there is enough dung as well. Learn to reason, question, debate and that would help in separating gems from dung.


Third
I will have to remove your irrelevant posts if they are posted again on this thread

Happy landings
    
    


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: Aeroresurrect on November 30, 2016, 08:28:39 PM
FBC,
Your post was not helpful, tone was aggressive and out of context.
Reading it was a sheer waste of time !

All said, I'll be more careful now on.

Thanks


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: K K Iyer on November 30, 2016, 09:23:22 PM
@aeroresurrect,
Come on man, dont get angry with FBC.

FBC has run this thread for over 5 years, posting 58 engines, getting over 1 lac views (more than any other thread)

You have your own Toki thread.
Would you not be annoyed if i started posting my Cox 049 stories on your thread?

But all is well that ends well.
Regards to you and FBC both.


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on November 30, 2016, 09:30:38 PM
FBC,
Your post was not helpful, tone was aggressive and out of context.
Reading it was a sheer waste of time !

All said, I'll be more careful now on.

Thanks
I take the liberty to waste some more of your precious time
Yes you could be right, but this is my thread and that is the way it will remain.
You already have your own thread. Post away to glory therein.  No one will be aggressive or out of context there and if some one is you have same rights as I have over here.
And since you did not get it at the first instance, let me say this again. Your post on my thread is out of context and irrelevant.

And thank you for your promise to take care from now on :thumbsup:  


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: K K Iyer on November 30, 2016, 09:37:33 PM
@flyingboxcar,
As i said to the other guy,
Dont get angry.

You are an old hand, after all.
And he did say he'd be more careful...


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on November 30, 2016, 09:40:53 PM
Nah not angry, just making things amply clear


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on November 30, 2016, 09:41:50 PM
And with the NGH 38 cc fourstroke it would be 59 different engines :)


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: K K Iyer on November 30, 2016, 09:44:03 PM
That, Sir, is picking nits  ;D


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: Devanesan Andrews on November 30, 2016, 11:16:20 PM
Sorry for interfering this thread sir...
But this is very valuable words...

"""""" Learn to reason, question, debate and that would help in separating gems from dung"""""


  


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Post by: K K Iyer on December 01, 2016, 12:23:57 AM
Deleted as incorrect.




Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on December 02, 2016, 05:45:54 PM
Guess time to show the NGH 38 better to folks who still like the noisy power bits
1. The Open box
2. The destruction's that accompany the engine. However these are not exactly from factory but have been worked upon by Just Engines in UK
3. The box packing
4. Contents out of the box


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Post by: flyingboxcar on December 02, 2016, 05:50:01 PM
1. Engine left view
2. View from right
3. Top view
4. Rear view


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Post by: flyingboxcar on December 02, 2016, 05:55:02 PM
1. The ignition and other bits. Note the supplied feeler gauge for tappets
2. The standard exhaust stub
3. The Just Engines supplied muffler (does not come if you get your engine from HK)
4. The engines sports a genuine custom made Walbro carb for NGH  


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Post by: flyingboxcar on December 02, 2016, 05:59:24 PM
1. The carb comes fitted with a short venturi (should help)
2. The Just Engines supplied metal mount, pre-drilled and tapped. Engines from HK come with a back plate and stand offs
3. Supplied tools
4. In case any one was wondering about the short head allen key, this picture should make the function quite clear

 

 


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on January 09, 2017, 09:51:31 PM
Coming up next, yet another twin four stroke currently performing duty on my large Cub. In fact I am taking off the cowl to install on-board twin glow and this would be a perfect excuse to take pictures of the engine as well   


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: K K Iyer on January 09, 2017, 10:32:03 PM
Will be great to see the twin (opposed, i presume)


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on January 10, 2017, 07:45:23 PM
Iyer saab, yes they are opposed to each other but they do work together so that the big piece of plastic or wood bolted on the front keeps rotating. I have also noticed that even if one decides not to cooperate and shuts down the other continues to labour and to remedy this I decided to install on board glow from http://www.southhertsmodels.co.uk/ (http://www.southhertsmodels.co.uk/)


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: K K Iyer on January 10, 2017, 07:58:56 PM
Sir,
By 'opposed' I only meant physiologically, not psychologically  ;D
Then I wonder what a 'Boxer' does...
Regards


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on January 10, 2017, 08:50:44 PM
Elementary, they are more than opposed. They box

But time for the engine now

1. So here it is, the box that the engine came in. I acquired it pre-loved but in fantastic shape and along with quite a few exhaust accessories that one needs to purchase separately and all at fantastic price.
This is an ASP 160 Twin

2. See the seller details on the engine box along with the signature and sale date? Yes it is same as one shown earlier at post 314

3. The engine comes in a nicely varnished light ply box with a foam insert (foam insert was missing in this case)

4. And is also accompanied by few sheets of destructions  ;D
    


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on January 10, 2017, 09:06:04 PM
Some of you might have guessed that the engine was acquired (as said earlier pre-loved) from UK and the original supplier was Just Engines

1. The engine is supplied from factory with just two down pipe exhausts but I got the below pictured exhaust accessories in the deal and these case be used in varied configuration where required. The Allen keys did come with the engine supplied from factory in Far East ;D

2. Close up of the prop recommendations for the engine

3. Close up of the exploded engine diagram

4. Not the best way to show an engine when it is mounted on the model, but then that is what these engines are meant to do. Here is the top view


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on January 10, 2017, 09:12:35 PM
1. Looking at the engine from front and under the prop shaft, one will also notice the empty exhaust port where the down pipe has been removed to facilitate cowl removal

2. The engine uses a hefty sleeve nut, AFIR 12 mm, and sharp eyed observers will notice the missing needle valve. Again out for cowl removal    

3. The left cylinder

4. And finally the twin glow that is going on the engine


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on January 31, 2017, 05:01:34 PM
Coming up next a pair of NIB Saito's. Perfect for a twin ?? (:|~


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: K K Iyer on January 31, 2017, 06:24:05 PM
Coming up next a pair of NIB Saito's. Perfect for a twin ?? (:|~

Er, before that, the pic in reply 336 was a shock. A boxer twin with exhaust headers coming out of the back? Yuck.
Pic in next post showed exhaust outlets facing front, as any decent exhaust should...
Was going to ask if you twisted the cylinders around  ;D

Well, a bit of research revealed the truth. The rear ones are inlets.
I can breath easier now...


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on January 31, 2017, 09:13:30 PM
Iyer saab, it's not just you alone, although it is a picture taken by me of my own engine, the first time I saw the picture here it took me some time to realize that I was looking at the intakes and not the exhausts   ;D


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on February 02, 2017, 08:15:27 PM
Just to whet your appetites. The twin boxes that nestle the engine inside


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on March 07, 2017, 03:20:18 PM
Been some time and I almost forgot that I had promised to update some pictures of the new engine in the series.
So if any one was waiting, here you go


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Post by: flyingboxcar on March 07, 2017, 03:21:25 PM
Continuing with the theme


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on March 07, 2017, 03:22:38 PM
and few more


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: sundaram on March 10, 2017, 09:35:37 AM
Will this Engine Treasure Chest ever bottom Captain  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:



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Post by: flyingboxcar on March 13, 2017, 06:06:02 PM
Scraping the bottom now me think


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: rcpilotacro on March 14, 2017, 10:58:08 AM
Will this Engine Treasure Chest ever bottom Captain  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:



Miles to go before it reaches the bottom

looks more like Mariana trench to me


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 30, 2017, 02:01:52 PM
Coming up next
A fairly big block and a tiny diesel  ;D
Anyone identifies this tiny one?


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 30, 2017, 04:41:56 PM
PAW?


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 30, 2017, 04:50:01 PM
Naw not a PAW


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 30, 2017, 04:54:10 PM
My A-paw-logies  ;)


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 30, 2017, 05:06:56 PM
 ;D ;D ;D {:)} {:)} {:)}
NAW need to apologize  


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 30, 2017, 06:25:24 PM
But Sanjay, your ID as far as country of origin is concerned is correct.


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: sanjayrai55 on June 30, 2017, 07:00:59 PM
Doesn't seem like a Mills or a Frog


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 30, 2017, 07:46:28 PM
The engine uses no casting, the case and head are milled from block
Recommended prop is 7 x 4


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on July 04, 2017, 05:29:30 PM
Haw! no one else want's hazard a guess??
These engines were made in various sizes and the smallest one was 0.1 cc, yes you read that right, 0.1cc
Any bright sparks with that clue?   


Title: Re:
Post by: sanjayrai55 on July 04, 2017, 05:32:44 PM
Cox?

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Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on July 04, 2017, 06:20:20 PM
Sanjay, Cox never made a diesel as far as I know.
I am amazed in this age of internet why aren't others showing any interest in the engine thread, IC is dead??? 


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: johnywalker8pm on July 04, 2017, 06:34:29 PM
Sir, Its look like Allen Mercury Series. Could be AE.1..


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on July 04, 2017, 06:39:36 PM
Bingo!!! but not a .1 cc nor Allen Mercury, But you got the Allen correct. The same Allen of Allen Mercury (AM) that many Indian modellers would recognize.
He in later years produced his own engines labelled AE. The one I posted is 1.0 cc will post more pictures tomorrow
See Google is such a useful little thing ;)
  


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: Rcjabalpur on July 04, 2017, 07:07:01 PM
I have a nib cox pee wee , love that little thing . Would post some pics on this thread later if it is not an issue.


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: K K Iyer on July 04, 2017, 07:15:26 PM
British origin, long carb throat, brass spraybar, slit exhaust ports, round screw in back plate suggest a 1cc prototype from Oliver Tiger.
But puzzled by three bolt head, fins below exhaust and Enya type crankcase split.

Thought it could be from Roland Valentine. But he's not UK based, and the finish is far below his standard.



Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on July 04, 2017, 07:46:39 PM
Iyer sir
Post 193 has pictures of various Olivers, don't think any resemble the engine I posted.
Plus Oliver's were cast case, this one machined for once you got it wrong :giggle:


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on July 05, 2017, 09:24:39 PM
So here are the pictures of the AE (Allen Engines ) 1 cc diesel
If you want to read about these engines go here
http://www.modelenginenews.org/cardfile/ae.html

Any way back to the 1 cc example we have here

1 The rather plain box
2. Box on opening
3. Engine with accompanying literature
4. Obverse side of the literature containing engine instructions


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on July 05, 2017, 09:31:20 PM
Some more pictures
1. Top view
2. From the fuel inlet side (left) and also showing the screws used to retain the carb in the case
3. Rear view (you may notice there are no bolts/screw that hold the backplate, there is no backplate, the front portion of the crank is what opens up
4.The lower front view showing the bolts that retain the case halves together


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on July 12, 2017, 04:52:53 PM
Pictures of the Saito coming up tomorrow


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on August 01, 2017, 01:50:45 PM
Had some travel come up due to which the posting for Saito 180 glow four stroke got delayed.
Here are the promised pictures  


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on August 01, 2017, 01:55:13 PM
Pictures continued


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on August 01, 2017, 01:56:13 PM
And the last few pictures of this engine
 :hatsoff:


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: K K Iyer on August 01, 2017, 06:58:54 PM
@flyingboxcar,
Sir,
So beautiful!
Pic 3 in reply 368 made me wonder if it is assymetrical in front view, input valve head on top and exhaust valve head at 60deg?
Till i realised that it is only the engine canted 30deg in the photo that gave this impression.
Height of nit picking, eh?
Regards.


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: saurabh098 on August 01, 2017, 08:12:30 PM
And the last few pictures of this engine
 :hatsoff:

Very nice pics.


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on August 07, 2017, 07:11:14 PM
Yet another glow, a big one !
A Super Tigre  3000 all 30cc glow ringed
The only downside, this one is not made in Italy
Hope you enjoy the pictures and yes this engine is up for sale. Will be posting at the for sale section as well


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on August 07, 2017, 07:17:15 PM
Pictures continued


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on August 07, 2017, 07:19:46 PM
Last batch of pictures


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: sbajare on August 08, 2017, 12:05:28 PM
hi,

I have the RCV 58 CD made by RCV engines from UK.



Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on August 08, 2017, 01:33:25 PM
Check post 104 to 109 for RCV CD 58 and 91


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 29, 2018, 08:56:19 PM
Coming up next ...
A teaser picture below
And few more engines (including a V twin) lined up to be photographed and put up for vicarious viewing pleasures 


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 30, 2018, 02:00:34 PM
As promised here is yet another engine.
Earlier in Aug I had shown the Saito 180 GK (Reply 367). This time it's a Saito once again, 180 (yes once again) but converted to CDI ignition and running on petrol. CH ignitions kit was used to convert. Pictures show the usual around the engine with shots of the carb used, carb mount and the sensor bracket. Needs 1:20 full synthetic mix for optimum run and uses a 1/4-32 size spark plug    


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on May 30, 2018, 02:02:11 PM
Pictures continued.
As can be seen uses a Rcxel CDI unit with 1/4-32 size plug boot and a Walbro copy carb


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 01, 2018, 04:57:24 PM
Coming up next, any guesses what's it?


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 16, 2018, 06:01:25 PM
Any one willing to hazard a guess?


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: Aeroresurrect on June 17, 2018, 06:04:02 PM
Guess it is a (horizontally opposed) twin, photograph showing the symmetry across the mounting plate..... (I could be wrong)


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 17, 2018, 07:08:08 PM
Good try there but it's not. Any one else wants to hazard a guess


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: K K Iyer on June 17, 2018, 08:28:22 PM
Way over my head, as usual !  :banghead:
This thread nearly succeeded in making my a collector too. Stopped at a mere dozen  ;D

Look forward to a seeing an occasional display of small parts of your collection...
Regards


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on June 18, 2018, 12:00:20 AM
The clue is in the picture. Look up close and you may recognize


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: ssk320 on December 28, 2018, 10:08:49 PM
This is what happens when engineers go nuts! Here are 6, that's right, 6 Morton radial engines from my collection. Engines were manufactured in 1945/46 in USA. 15cc, petrol, 4 stroke. Disregard the 9-cylinder Technopower in the pic  ;D

Suman


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: K K Iyer on December 28, 2018, 10:47:46 PM
@ssk320
You have enough stuff to start your own thread.
This thread has some 170,000 views so far...


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on December 28, 2018, 10:49:52 PM
This is what happens when engineers go nuts! Here are 6, that's right, 6 Morton radial engines from my collection. Engines were manufactured in 1945/46 in USA. 15cc, petrol, 4 stroke. Disregard the 9-cylinder Technopower in the pic  ;D

Suman
Lovely!
Those were the engines to covet for and in many ways still are. Got any of those running?


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: ssk320 on December 28, 2018, 11:09:46 PM
Not yet, maybe in Spring. In the meantime, I did run up this Noonan 5cc diesel and a couple of others though...Taplin Twin (Aurora), a Mills 1.3 cc, a Redfin 0.3 cc, and a 5cc Sparey).
The Sparey and Noonan are home-built classic side port designs.

https://youtu.be/KXRz_kDxEWc


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on December 28, 2018, 11:47:52 PM
Ahh! It's you Suman ;)


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!! / Mills magic
Post by: ssk320 on December 29, 2018, 10:52:13 PM
So it's REALLY cold here, and all this talk of engines got be riled up. So I dug up an old Mills (original English from the 1950s) and ran it up INSIDE to house. Got chased off to the unheated garage by the wife, and ran the engine in 15 second bursts. God knows when this engine was last run, but even in near zero temps, it came to life nicely.


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: flyingboxcar on December 30, 2018, 12:20:29 AM
Hmm, the original Mills should have a limiter pin on the head. I don't see that. Plus the original had mag crank case which has a tendency to show its age. The case in your example looks quite good


Title: Re: Engines, Engines and more Engines...!!!
Post by: ssk320 on December 30, 2018, 12:28:50 AM
Yes, the limiter pin is gone. The tommy bar has been modified. Magnesium case had corrosion on it...cleaned with wire brush carefully. One of the lug corners is broken off but is not a problem. But it is an original Mills with a serial number on it.