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Title: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on February 19, 2015, 09:33:54 PM
Hello Guys,

Please help in selecting accessories needed for working with glow engines (airplane)

1. will the below glow igniter work with any glow engine/glow plug ?

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__11456__Turnigy_Glow_Plug_Lighter_Tool.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__11456__Turnigy_Glow_Plug_Lighter_Tool.html)

2. Any good diy sources for chicken stick, fuel tank, filters, fuel hand crank or motorized etc.

i'm new to these stuff and appreciate any help. Oh can i finish buying all these for under 2000/- ?

Sahil


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: Rcjabalpur on February 19, 2015, 09:47:34 PM
Do not buy that glow plug ignitor, i have one and it's pathetic. Rcskyhobby has every thing you need (fuel tank , fuel lines , chicken stick , after run oil , fuel filters )  . Its a great lhs have bought a good no of items from them . For the glow plug ignitor I'll recommend the prolux one from lotus hobby , it will accept a dc voltage from 5-20 v (plug a 3s lipo and you are good to go ) hope this helps .


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on February 19, 2015, 10:01:18 PM
lotus hobby site looks good


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: Rcjabalpur on February 19, 2015, 10:05:52 PM
Yes it is good , i have 3 glow plug ignitors
1- turnigy glow plug tool - its useless
2- hobbico hot shot 2 - its good but you need to charge it frequently
3- prolux (lotus hobby) - by far the best , i have added deans plug to it and power it from a old 3s lipo .


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on February 19, 2015, 10:14:22 PM
okay and what do think about power panel box ?


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: Rcjabalpur on February 19, 2015, 10:17:14 PM
They are good as well , power them by a 12v dc power source and you are good to go . Some power panels even have a built in fuel pump . Buy a clip on style glow plug ignitor (1.2-1.5 dc v) .


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on February 19, 2015, 11:15:29 PM
fuel tubing sizes ? fuel filters size types ?


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: Rcjabalpur on February 20, 2015, 12:12:44 AM
Fuel tubing depends upon your engine , the fuel filter on Rcskyhobby is good upto 90 class engines (if iam not mistaken) .


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on February 20, 2015, 12:26:15 AM
i have engines below 55 size.


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: Rcjabalpur on February 20, 2015, 12:40:52 AM
That wont be a issue , the fuel filter will work perfectly.


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on April 21, 2015, 11:17:34 PM
what size spinner to use on 25 size glow engine with 9x5 prop, will a 2inch spinner work ?


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sundaram on April 22, 2015, 12:24:03 AM
That's a perfect size spinner for a 25 size


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on April 22, 2015, 10:23:20 AM
thanks


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on April 22, 2015, 07:21:34 PM
Glow model receiver battery options and which is the best or safe unit.

2S lipo with ubec
2S life suibalte for the receiver
4 or 6 cell nimh or nicad battery pack (diy)

also what about these 5v battery banks ? has anyone used them


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 23, 2015, 07:33:33 AM
I use a 2S LiFe. I also use a LSD NiMh pack

The Life is 1300 mah, the NiMh is 2400 mah


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 23, 2015, 07:35:29 AM
A lot depends on the model size, and which servos you use

On large gassers (30 cc to 150 cc - that's what I have seen) it is common to use a high capacity Lipo with a BEC


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on April 23, 2015, 01:44:22 PM
its a 25 size glow model ( SPAD - Buhor 25 ) with 8gram e-max digital servo for throttle, ailerons on futaba 3004, rubber/elevator on 17gram or 25 gram metal gear servos. i was thinking of using 2S lipo 1000mah with 3amp ubec.


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on April 23, 2015, 04:13:49 PM
Okay guys here is what i have come up with so far and i find the list to be sufficient but please correct where necessary  :)

Start with a good glow engine bench test stand to start working on engine break-in, tuning, hand start practicing etc.

Essential glow model parts
1. Glow engine.
2. Fuel tubing.
3. Fuel tank (in-line filter).
4. propeller with plastic cone/spinner.
5. servos, min 4 no's.
6. full range receiver 4ch or more.
7. Rx battery.
8. ARF trainer plane or kit or spad diy.
9. Tri - landing gear with steering and 2.5inch or bigger rubber wheels.
10. accessories like control horns, cleives, wheel collar, cycle spoke or control rods etc to complete the model.

Essential field equipment
1. Fuel.
2. Fuel can with fitting.
3. Hand or electric fuel pump.
4. silicon fuel tubing.
5. power panel with glow clip, 12v battery.
6. spare glow plug.
7. tools like screw driver, spanner, CA glue etc.
8. field box with mountable model.
9. Lipo battery monitor. spare rx/tx battery packs and charging cords.
10. chicken stick.

Extra nice to have stuff
1. starter motor.
2. Tachometer.
3. temperature meter.
4. wind meter.
5. multi-meter.
6. extra model spares like wheels etc.
7. servo tester, rx battery load tester, rx voltage watch with low battery indicator.
 



Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 23, 2015, 04:17:45 PM
its a 25 size glow model ( SPAD - Buhor 25 ) with 8gram e-max digital servo for throttle, ailerons on futaba 3004, rubber/elevator on 17gram or 25 gram metal gear servos. i was thinking of using 2S lipo 1000mah with 3amp ubec.

3 A will be adequate for these servos


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on April 23, 2015, 04:55:01 PM
Thanks for clarification sanjay also did you have any bad experiences with hitec HS-311 servos. Oh add a prop balancer - a must to balance the propeller on a glow model other wise vibrations can lead to servo failures etc.


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: K K Iyer on April 23, 2015, 08:38:34 PM
glow airplane requirements
« Sent to: sahilkit on: Today at 08:36:07 PM »

I notice that through many queries in your thread, you have compiled a list of items required.
However there are many other small things...
1. 1/4" sq balsa or CF rod for pushrods
2. Horns and clevises
3. Wire for pushrod ends
4. Adjustable pushrod stoppers that fit on the servo arms
5. Landing gear, or wire for making (nose gear not easy)
6. Steering arm for nose gear
7. Hinges
8. Nylon wing mounting bolt/base set
9. Spare props
10. Rx battery voltage display
11. Adjustable glass reinforced engine mount
12. Bolts and blind nuts for fixing engine mount to firewall
13. Bolts and nyloc nuts for engine mounting
14. Source of fuel, especially if nitro required. (My engine's performance dramatically improved by adding just 1.5% nitro)

See, many of the bits and pieces are available in packs of ten. That is ok if you build many models. Otherwise expensive for just one model.

There may be even more requirements like kit, balsa, ply, depron, monokote etc.

If you tell me what you are planning, especially what engine you have, i can do the following:
1. Ask a friend who has all this stuff to make up a set for a single model, and quote price
2. Offer you an old Rx ready .40 SoloStar with/without engine

You really should try and find other glow flyers, so that you don't have to start completely from scratch!
Regards
(Will try to put this PM on your thread as it may interest others too)


Title: Re:
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 23, 2015, 09:50:23 PM
Hitec HS 311 are probably the best standard servos around


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on April 23, 2015, 09:55:40 PM
Hi Sanjay.

The reason i asked you about HS-311 servo is because of horror stories i keep reading on servo failure (resent production) at RCG or RCU etc sites.

Coming to standard servos options are becoming less and expensive  :-\.

sahil

 


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on April 23, 2015, 10:04:33 PM
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14. Source of fuel, especially if nitro required. (My engine's performance dramatically improved by adding just 1.5% nitro)

I'm now able to source the fuel components with nitro and mixed my first 100ml fuel tested on cox 049 (zero nitro), the engine starts fine.

I want to build a buhor 25 trainer with ums 25 engine but if its the wrong size model to build i can always change direction.

Sahil


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: K K Iyer on April 23, 2015, 11:49:43 PM
If you are building a coro with glow, you can benefit from consulting sanjayrai55.

BTW, 'sanjay', as you like to call him, is some 30-40 years younger than me. (I'm close to 100!)

Hope you got the point.
He's quite a senior chap (in many ways), guys, in case you didn't know.
I address him as Rai saheb, if you have noticed...


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 24, 2015, 05:49:34 AM
Hi Sanjay.

The reason i asked you about HS-311 servo is because of horror stories i keep reading on servo failure (resent production) at RCG or RCU etc sites.

Coming to standard servos options are becoming less and expensive  :-\.
 

Quite possible. There are a lot of duplicate servos around. The ones I am using are pretty old, over 10 years

A good option is HK 5010 (double ball bearing) from Hobby King. I've been using them for some time now without any problem.


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on April 24, 2015, 03:26:57 PM
Hi sanjay,

If its not much trouble can you post a direct link. I searched HK site but could not get info.

Was it HXT 6.9kg / 39.2g / .16sec Twin bearing Digital Servo or TowerPro SG5010 RC Standard Servo Motor Digital BB Double Ball Bearing ?

Sahil


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on April 24, 2015, 03:29:26 PM
checkout these futaba s3003 servos look suspicious.

http://www.snapdeal.com/product/futaba-futaba-s3003-servo-motor/515196293?utm_source=earth_feed&utm_campaign=682_686&utm_medium=101600768&vendorCode=Sb0043 (http://www.snapdeal.com/product/futaba-futaba-s3003-servo-motor/515196293?utm_source=earth_feed&utm_campaign=682_686&utm_medium=101600768&vendorCode=Sb0043)

http://www.amazon.in/Robodo-Electronics-Futaba-S3003-Servo/dp/B00MTFO9VA?tag=googinhydr18418-21&kpid=B00MTFO9VA&tag=googinkenshoo-21&ascsubtag=ee7dc56a-37a6-4969-8075-8c1ab125cc40 (http://www.amazon.in/Robodo-Electronics-Futaba-S3003-Servo/dp/B00MTFO9VA?tag=googinhydr18418-21&kpid=B00MTFO9VA&tag=googinkenshoo-21&ascsubtag=ee7dc56a-37a6-4969-8075-8c1ab125cc40)

Sahil



Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sanjayrai55 on April 24, 2015, 05:16:50 PM
HK https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idproduct=3743 (https://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idproduct=3743)


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on May 03, 2015, 03:55:21 PM
http://rcuniversal.in/index.php?route=product/product&path=246&product_id=1683 (http://rcuniversal.in/index.php?route=product/product&path=246&product_id=1683)


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on May 03, 2015, 08:50:48 PM
Quote
Hope you got the point.
He's quite a senior chap (in many ways), guys, in case you didn't know.
I address him as Rai saheb, if you have noticed...

sorry missed this post  :), okay rai saheb it is.

Rai saheb i have picked up few petrol fuel filters and want to know if i can use them for fuel-can building.


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sanjayrai55 on May 04, 2015, 07:55:27 AM
When you say Fuel Can do you mean your onboard tank or your fuel bottle in your caddy box?

First check the compatibility of the filter, especially that plastic housing, with nitro fuel (If your need is for a 'Gasser' ie Petrol engine they should be fine) Soak for a few days and see the effects

Normal nitro fuel filters consist of a fine mesh in an Aluminium housing, and are not very expensive

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__7668__Fuel_Filter_Nitro_Glow_D4xd9_5xL25mm.html (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__7668__Fuel_Filter_Nitro_Glow_D4xd9_5xL25mm.html)


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on May 04, 2015, 09:50:32 AM
Its for fuel bottle in the caddy box. Okay will do that test and see how it goes.

These cost me Rs 6/- each


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: shobhit17 on May 04, 2015, 10:25:51 AM
Hello Sahilkit.... for all your Glow Plug engine queries and help... I will recommend that you contact Vivek Sharma of Sharma Aeromodels at Jodhpur.  The number is available on this site... all you need to do is search by name of Vivek Sharma.... of go to RC Gems and look for Sharma Model Aeroengines or Hangar S.  Thats a one stop shop for most quality items required by us aeromodellers.  He may not have much on the website but on phone the order can be placed after contacting him.


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: sahilkit on May 04, 2015, 11:00:23 AM
Hello Shobhit,

I have his number, spoke to him couple of times and send a email with the list of items i wanted to buy but nothing moved forward. So decided to place an order for just the props from there online store.

Sahil


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: SphereHobbies on May 04, 2015, 11:22:34 AM
Sahil

PM your list. or email it to info@spherehobbies.com.

It would take about 15 days to get any OS glow engine part you need.

Regards,

Sphere Hobbies
Ahmedabad
India
+91-99251-20630


Title: Re: Glow engine accessories help needed !
Post by: shobhit17 on May 04, 2015, 04:21:03 PM
Ok... Sahilket... I will also talk to him and give him your concerns...