G day from Australia , I would like to buy some engines , can anyone help please

Ian

Welcome to RC India

Please contact Sharma Models directly, Mr Vivek is one of the contact persons.  The phone number is (+91) 291-2513519

http://www.sharmamodelaero.com 

I tried and had no reply
thanks

Even the phone ? (It is 3am in India now, but you should be able to call after 6 hours from now).

I will try to get a member here named Deepak Chopra to help, he is in touch with the Sharma folks.

No as you say its 3am .....I sent enquries to their 'online' web site and had no reply.....thank you for any help
Ian

They also seem to be available for sale online here :

http://aeromodelsupermarket.com/showitemlist.php?browseby=1&id=3&maincatid=2&catlist=1

There is no way to actually buy them there that I can see , like a regular online web site , only send an enquriy which I have done and had no reply

Ian,

I have a 1.5 cc Sharma - runned in, never used. You'd be able to assess its condition. Had a 3.2 in as well, gave it away recently.

Pl let me know if you'd be interested.

bmblb

Hello Ian,
Try to call them, they have made website but they never reply if you contact them by e-mail or sent any web enquiry. In fact unless your requirement is more than one, they won’t show you much interest. But their 3.2cc diesel type engine is good. 

OK thanks for the offer on the 1.5cc , but am after the 3.2cc


Yes that what I found about their web site
I will give Mr Vivek a ring later this afternoon (your time)
Is there any Model Shops in India that sell them that I could deal with

Thank you for you help
Ian

Hi Ian, please call Mr. Patil at +9122 2382 3125 (India Hobby Centre Mumbai), he can get one for you in a week or so. Currently he has 2.5 cc's in stock. I have just had a word with him and he is expecting a call from you.

Regards,

VC

OK thanks very much , will ring shortly 

Ian

I just rang him and he said they were out of stock , but can get them in ...in about a weeks time....very difficult to understand their accent on the phone , so could you just confirm with them that i want 2 X Sharma 3.2cc Diesel engines with the R/C carby on
Thank you again for your help
Ian

Ian,
I know the owners personally and can make sure that you get a reply from them. PM me your email ID and phone number. I will speak to them and some one would sure repsond to you.
Good to see another diesel lover here. What do you intend to put this engine on to? 

Hey thats really GREAT FBC , thank you very very much....I tried to get these engines thru Carlson Engines in USA , but he has really lost the plot....hasnt had them in stock for 6mths and said on the phone "sometime in the future".....must have too much money..

Just email me with any info
irwhite@adam.com.au
Ian

Ian,
You should be receiving a mail from them. Just got off the phone with Sharma's.
Do let us know when you have heard back from them, and also what model you intend putting this engine on to?  

Or you can call them now at +91. 291-2513519 and speak to Mr. Vishal Sharma

 

Well , I didnt really want to say.....but If they run as well as I have heard , Im going to use them (one for back-up) in a record attempt distance plane
I have a price of 3600rp each , but would like to know also how much for shipping to Adelaide Australia zip 5203
Thanks
Ian

Ian,
Shipping is something which only Sharma's can give you. I have no way of knowing that. But my guess would be that it should be nominal considering the size and weight of the box.
They do run well and you wouldn't be surprised at the close resembelence to the PAW's
 

Thanks again FBC , yes I have several PAW's as well as other diesels ...like an Irvine 40 ect
I hope Mr Shama will email me , I really have trouble understanding what is said on the phone , I am not used to your accents , I hope you understand
Cheers
Ian

hi Vivek Sharma is my friend please call him on his handphone his number PMd you.

Thank you , I just tried and there was no answer , will try again a bit later or tomorrow
Ian

Yeah he is currently busy with some work..will be availabe in 3 hours...

thanks again , in 3hr I will be asleep.... 12 midnight , will try again tomorrow

Ian

Pardon me, but the lack of response to online communication from a store like this sounds like a bad idea, especially when diesel engine usage has dwindled down. 

Customers deserve better response... I hope it is just a technical issue !

Ian,
Vivek is not in office today and he would certainly mail you by tomorrow.
 

It is not just about Ian, even few days before I also sent web enquiry to their so called online store but no reply.

I hope Mr Sharma could email me  , as this is best all round , I dont know what it cost me to ring India , but its not a local call....and I wont be home for some of today
Thanks everyone for you help , that is really much appriciated....this is MUCH better than the American forums like RCG , you are very kind and helpfull
my email is

irwhite@adam.com.au

Ian

Why you want to buy Sharma Engine? Why not MVVS diesel engine? If it is about price then okay.

Because there is one here a friend has and it is exactly the engine I want to try....VERY economical and reliable

Ian

Out of these three you want to buy which one:

1) http://aeromodelsupermarket.com/showdetails.php?browseby=1&ctype=&maincatid=2&id=3&itemid=1823&catlist=1&myitemcnt=5

2) http://aeromodelsupermarket.com/showdetails.php?browseby=1&ctype=&maincatid=2&id=3&itemid=1824&catlist=1&myitemcnt=6

3) http://aeromodelsupermarket.com/showdetails.php?browseby=1&ctype=&maincatid=2&id=3&itemid=1825&catlist=1&myitemcnt=7

The third one with both carbies , that would be more vesitile

Rajib,
i have flown and seen flying couple of them, be advised there is no muffler and the exhaust is on the other side of the photo, black spray of fuel and oil will come onto you and the aeroplane, sharma engine guys use a apron for flying, you might consider buying one of these, with the engine

I'm using Sharma Diesel engine since 1991 while I joined Air Wing NCC, even I've used Aurora engines. We used to use them for Free flight, Control Line Aerobatic, Control Line Speed models and even we used them on glider. NCC is still using Sharma Diesel Engines for Control Line Aerobatic models, because compare to Glow engines they have less power which is good for teaching flying to new NCC cadets. I love smell of Diesel fuel especially after burn smell but I really hate smell of after burn glow fuel. But it is true because they don’t have any muffler so it makes too much mess so you're right about apron.

  Sharma Engines! Cant possibly get any more versatile. This is what I call versitality integrated with engineering! First you FLY and then you COOK and guess what? You still dont get mucked-up 

contrary to common belief, Clinical Ether, Kerosene and Castor,,since when this concoction is called diesel ? Rudolf Diesel must be tossing in his grave

Very good information about diesel fuel: http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/dieselcombat/diesel_fuel.htm

precisely my point, NOS is for cold countries, Sharma engine recommends not to use them here, (You can use it if you like)

I dont think so , I think he would be very pleased that his compression ignition engine is used in everything from GIANT ship engines to tiny model engines.....model engines will run without ether but have to be heated up first , the ether is an igniton improver , and being a two stroke without a sump . need oil for lubrication , kero being the fuel
The main advantage is the fuel economy , kero has a higher calorific value than petrol
I got an email from Mr. Sharma about the sale of his engines ......thanks again to everyone for your help

Ian

i am by no means belittling the engines, they are gr8 engines, in the category of being legendary, have spoken to Mr Sharma personally, will fly his gas engine soon and of course the OS 46 clone that they are going to come up with in the near future. His engines sells in UK like hot cakes, i guess. just that it is quite messy, that's all i meant

Ian did you hear back from Sharma's or were you able to contact them?

Yes , thanks to you all again for your help , very much appreciated ....MR. Sharma has sent me an invioce for the engines...all is good

I have just sent the money to MR.Sharma for the engines , so will have a long wait with an eye on the post
Cheers
Ian

Good the know that we were able to help you in your quest. I am sure you would like the engine and suceed in your venture.
Happy landings

Yes FBC....thank you all again..

Hi Anwar, Sorry I could not respond to your email earlier as I was in India for the past 10 days attending a family wedding.
There was an accidental spillage of tea and the BB was out of action so no E-contact . Anyway, I hope Ian has sorted out his requirement, I called Vivek today but as he was driving, I could not speak to him.
I will talk to him tomorrow. I notice Ian has sorted it all out thanks to FBC.
Anwar, please will you upgrade SMAEP email add in the shop section as Vivek does respond to his emails regularly with me;
info@sharmamodelaero.com

Regards
Deepak

Hi everybody.....well things havent gone smoothly at all
Because I live in a small country town , it was a lot easier to send the money to MR Sharma using Western Union , which I did....however three times MR Sharmra tried to recieve the money from Western Union failed , they wouldnt give him the money claiming that only an Indian could send money to another Indian  , I was asked to change my name to an Indian name , which according to W/U is illeagle and they wouldnt do it
I actually rang W/U three times and they said that it was quite ok for me to send funds to MR Sharma and that would work , but still MR Sharma couldnt get it...................
So I had to cancel the W/U action and make a special trip to my bank (80km) and do a bank transfer , which by the way cost more ,  $30 AUD fees and is slower..........So I will never deal with W/U again , there are just too many rules about money sending in India , must be to do with your government economy
So now I wait to hear from MR Sharma about recieving the funds and shipment....................
Ian

There is a shop in surat name beyond toys he will supply engines his name is monty his number is 09925385856 he can help u

Thank you , does he have an email address ??

I heard that in India we are allow receiving money but cannot send money. I never knew that we cannot even receive money if the sender is not Indian. I know some NRI sends money to their family through WU, but not sure about any foreigner sends money to India. I would like to know about this if anyone knows better about this subject.

http://india.westernunion.com/WUCOMWEB/staticMid.do?method=load&pagename=mtReceiveMoney

I guess this was the reason:

If you send by to his name instead of business name then it might work, but I'm not sure.

Ian, all the best for your engine. Just not transferring money, our country has too many rules that getting a Transmitter legally is big hassle.

For others around Bangalore and elsewhere in the country, Mr Sampath of 'New India Hobbies' in Ulsoor, Bangalore has couple of Sharma engines. Please inquire him as well.

Yes , we changed it to Mr Sharma (person to person) and they still wouldnt cough up.......it doesnt matter any more , I have done a bank transfer.......

Yes for the future it would be nice to know of stores in India that have a web site and take Paypal or a credit card , does anyone know of sutch shops...
Ian

There are many such shops here, but not with Sharma products

http://www.rcindia.org/rc-outlets-and-resellers/mega-list-of-all-rc-outlets-in-india/

The simplest for shops like Sharma may be setup an eBay shop.  I believe people like Sai  (rcforall.co.in) are doing business with international customers quite easily with his eBay shop (http://stores.ebay.in/rcforallin).

ian a friend of mine is traveling to Australia, i'll tell him to carry it for you, that'll be in jun, you can pay me later, after you get it, let me know. he can leave it with somebody in Melbourne

Thanks for your offer , but I have paid for the engines and postage.......

Ian

Yes all these money transfer companies can only be used by Indians working abroad to send money to support friends and family as there is no tax involved. Paypal could be used earlier but I think there is a restriction on that too.
I spoke to Vivek and he did explain that as he has experienced several problems on transfer issues he always advises his customers to transfer money via bank transfer and bank transfer only.... I wonder if postal orders work??
Glad to know Ian has finally managed to place his order. I hear, Vivek has offered a little something extra to compensate for Ian's loss even though the loss was due to no fault on Vivek's part....

Thanks Vivek for looking after us Aeromodellors..... I am sure the engines you supply Ian will generate enough business to offset the parts you are giving to Ian FOC..

Yes  that is very appreciated from MR Sharma......some compensation for a real saga....

Gusty,
It is not the fuel (mix of ether/castor/kero) which is called diesel but the engine, for the simple reason that it is a compression ignition engine as in true diesel engine.

Rajib Da,
Did you mean that glow is less powerful than diesel or did you mean what you have written (highlighted)?

Thought As much, esp the start, as we speak, my NC (Not exactly sahayak ) is sitting with Vivek , i want to try building the Kaiser Kit, will post a log on it, except fro the fact that it is messy and in a RC Model throttle response aint good, sharma eng are superb.

Another Consumable less

 A helicopter carby with mid range mixture control will slove all the throttling problems with Diesels , my Irvine 40 diesel has instantaneous response to RPM change , I fitted an Enya 30 carby to it and when the mid range is tuned  , it is unbelievable
true story

Ian

Gusty, I guess you have a direct connection to Jodhpur. Talk of privlages of the fly boys!!! :-)

i swear, it will be flown in by the AN, 2mrw, along with some Kair Sangri, Believe that!!, planning a gas engine with a walby carb from Sharma, (somebody has got to be the guinea pig)

Ker Sangri straight and fresh from Raj.. Yummy! Guess we had some dirrect connection from Chennai.

Sorry Ian we look like hijacking your thread

m intrested in 1.5 cc sharma...

Sarang Welcome, go to Aeromodelsupermarket.com or speak to vivek sharma on 9414127519 he will help you out

Hi

Can anybody guide me to contact sharmamodel. I have sent mail and tried calling them but no response.
Subroto from Kolkata
brainbeans@gmail.com

welcome, he is in delhi call him after a day or two

I happened to ask mr. Vivek about ball bearing sharma engines- said they are on the cards- should be ready/ available in the next 5-6 months- PAWs at 1/3 the cost.
regards- Avijit

he is also a good source for hitec servos

funnhobbies at Surat had it in their product list. Try the Local Hobby Shop first.
regards
Avijit

Dear Ian,
Did you get the engine? I ahve a friend at melbourne, and i had a word regarding payment issues. If u doesnt succeed up in your payment,or if you need further transactions, He can be helpful.

Abhay

I was looking for something else, but was spellbound by this sequence.

What happened finally?

Could the Australian buyer get his engines?

!!!

Sharma product engines are so economical

I agree with iwincar on the attractive price of Sharma engines.

It seems they have a good reputation too for being well-built engines. Something to be proud of.

Wish they find a means of selling better and responding better to individual purchases, coping with the laws of the land.

To come back to my question, does anybody know:

Could the Australian buyer get his engines?

Hello & Many Thanks To All

For our Indian friends, for any of sharma products please check on the online store www.aeromodelsupermarket.com

For International buyers:
As of now we cannot accept payment directly from credit card or Paypal. For any foriegn currency transaction it has to be by either Wire Transfer (very Fast) or one can send a cheque payment (it takes arround 15 days to get it processed).
We are regularly exporting the engines. Anyone interested kindly mail me on my ID info@sharmamodelaero.com with the requirement & as for the way now, I will mail back a Pre-Invoice for the material & Shipping Charges with our bank details for Wire Transfer.

Also if there is any inquiry or doubt please feel free to contact me (my cell #) 9414127519 or my Brother Vishal on 9829491054

Many Thanks & Have A Nice Day

Many thanks for the reply.

I am quite likely to need an engine or two in some time from now. I have always liked diesels and two-strokes.

(Yet please, to satisfy my curiosity, can  I know what happened to the Australian gentleman's purchase?)

Many thanks Sir and please let me know whenever you want them.
And thanks for guiding that Australian buyer too.  We have supplied him his requirements.
Regards

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