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Title: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: rcpilotacro on September 14, 2012, 05:56:37 PM
wanted to make a real cheap aeroplane. Embarked on pure ply aeroplane which could take some payload like flower, tow a banner  and drop some toffees for children. so here it is. Highlights are:-

1. Clark Y semi symetrical wing and tailplane
2. 2,3,6mm ply
3. Towerpro high torque cheap servos 5 of them (One for the Bombay door)
4. Power HD servo on the throttle
5. JBA 50 CC engine, superb engine 1 flick start, no choke, run in with servo 2T 30ml to a litre
6. Some tips to make are (a) Just cut one template RIB and stack it to cut the other, join the fuse former bulkheads and jury struts later clad it with ply and cut and grind the ply
7. There is no fancy oracover or anything like that, it is aluminum foil (the thick one from Mr Ganguly (Ahmedabad).
8. Weighs about 9 Kgs without payload


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: rcpilotacro on September 14, 2012, 06:04:33 PM
Few more points

1.Couldn't find a suitable tail wheel, so used suitcase wheel.

2.wheel track was more so on taxy wheel rubber came off the hub due shear force,

3. Used the PowerBox (RCCSKJ) similar to the one HK sells

4. Fromeco 7.4 V 2300 mah Dual batt and separate batt for ign, kill switch through powerbox


Flight report

on the third spar, slightly nose heavy, very docile flier 50cc engine is slighlty under powered (Probably enough, i am used high powered aeroplanes, thats why the feeling probably).

More flights, pics, trials on this aeroplane to follow  ;)


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: sundaram on September 14, 2012, 07:31:19 PM
Cool Gusty I missed your maiden flight. Wonderful  {:)} {:)}


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: VC on September 14, 2012, 08:07:10 PM
Fantastic aircraft. Congrats Boss! You know the circumstances under which I am writing this. I wish I could devote more time to the forum today.


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: rastsaurabh on September 14, 2012, 08:11:02 PM
VC why do you write in coded language when you are writing in a public forum... you can use PM for the same....

You leave us all wondering " what circumstances " you might into ????? ;-)


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: VC on September 14, 2012, 08:25:00 PM
Instead of asking me questions, why don't you comment on the beautiful model instead? :thumbsup:


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: rastsaurabh on September 14, 2012, 08:29:23 PM
Boss the creator and the model need no appreciation !!!! Both are master pieces....

Will surely meet Gusty boss and spend few hours with him some day.

It was your statement which drew more attention!!!....
Anyway dont intend to bother you much and leave you in your circumstances....!!!!! :-)

Just Chill....


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: satz flying on September 14, 2012, 08:31:22 PM
wow . . . nice plane . . . Did you used balsa?


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: rcpilotacro on September 14, 2012, 11:51:03 PM
Thanks guys ! far from a piece (Let alone master piece), yeah! flies for the purpose it was intended, made for the upcoming meet (Details soon).

PS
Saurabh ! looking forward to meet you. VC's mother isn't keeping well, that's is the reason he couldn't give his expert opinion

PPS
Satish ! no balsa, scrap wood, airframe alone would have costed not more than 1200 :Rs:


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: satz flying on September 14, 2012, 11:57:11 PM
nice .  .  . how did you made the structure frame?

Dremel ?


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: satz flying on September 14, 2012, 11:59:08 PM
what is the span and length of 50CY?


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: rcpilotacro on September 15, 2012, 02:24:34 PM
A few changes on my 2.7 mtr span bird
1. Changed the undercarriage to a alu one with less track
2. Changed the prop to 20x8 from 22x8, now i got 7200 RPM as opposed to 6000 with 22x8

had a engine cut due fuel contamination :banghead: (small rubber piece blocking the inlet line, how the hell did it end up there  ???)

Engine off Glide and Landing was a breeze

Here is a small video of 1:49

Dialogues are of my help

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElOKg8-d8-A


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: sanjayrai55 on September 15, 2012, 03:24:05 PM
Like! Great job Gusty.


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: rcpilotacro on September 15, 2012, 03:52:49 PM
Thanks Sanjay, VC, Sandy, Saurabh & Sathish. Sandy knows this is definitely not my kind of flying, Banner towing flower dropping and such BS :banghead:, well, what to do, orders are orders, had to make one for the upcoming meet

PS
Sanjay, no balsa, no coro either ;)


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: sanjayrai55 on September 15, 2012, 04:47:17 PM
That's the only thing missing! Besides a cowling, made from an empty 2 litre Pepsi Bottle :)


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: rcpilotacro on October 13, 2012, 03:55:58 PM
For the forthcoming RC Meet, some practice today, Dropped the ball and some flower (That Classic pic was taken by wife).


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: rcpilotacro on October 13, 2012, 04:02:32 PM
Pawan Hans Take off, we had to hold onto the model

PS
Room in 50CY-1 is my model room  ;D :)


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: rcpilotacro on October 13, 2012, 04:15:34 PM
Flew beyond the timer, landed with the cut, engine cut landing was the best.


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: zonuna on October 13, 2012, 04:23:08 PM
can`t wait to see the big bird with banner & flower dropping


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: rcpilotacro on October 15, 2012, 06:40:17 AM
banner went well, here are some pics,

Didn't know when the wheel collet came off, in one of the touch and go, wheel fell off  :banghead: landed on one wheel, high speed low alpha and quite smooth it was


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: rcpilotacro on October 15, 2012, 06:43:41 AM
banner gone !!!


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: zonuna on October 15, 2012, 09:51:25 PM
can`t wait to see the banner tow, got to see how its done exactly


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: girishsarwal on October 15, 2012, 10:41:36 PM
amazing sire! When you say ply, I believe you mean regular ply. What thickness did you use for the fuselage. And for the wings, is it covered with vinyl, or the skin is ply again...

Amazing build


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: yashodhanp on October 16, 2012, 05:30:34 PM
What did you use to cut the ribs etc? And what thickness of ply was see where?


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: yashodhanp on October 16, 2012, 05:45:42 PM
What was your cost to build it?


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: rcpilotacro on October 16, 2012, 06:36:34 PM
2-3-6mm ply, worn out tyre and tyre tube for fire wall shock absorbing job and  probir ganguly's alu foil cover, alu leg, costliest part was the tail wheel, and dubro tank and tygon fuel lines. total cost is hard to say, without the engine and servos 2500 Rs, servos are bulk buy from aliexpress, so that is about 6 $ a servo 4 high torque and 01 throttle servo (HXT) servos. with engine, say about 30gs


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: yashodhanp on October 16, 2012, 08:30:13 PM
And how did you cut the plywood?? Pls. Let us in on your secret


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: rcpilotacro on October 16, 2012, 09:58:27 PM
power saw inverted through a working table, cut one, stack the rest and cut, one even cut for all ribs, sand it lightly after the cut. aslam bhai- my scratch building guru's secret not mine


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: flyingboxcar on October 21, 2012, 10:56:38 PM
Sir,
By the definition of scratch build prevailing in on here you have not scratch built this model
 


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: rcpilotacro on October 21, 2012, 11:04:19 PM
true manish, i have read your definition in indiarc in one of the post, by true definition, we aren't true to it, totally agree, but then, puritans are few and be that as it may


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: VC on October 21, 2012, 11:27:42 PM
"By the definition of scratch build prevailing in on here " (Mods sorry for the cut paste.............)


What am I missing out on here? Manish am I not being able to read between the lines or am I being obtuse or am I both? ???


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: rohitgupta322 on October 22, 2012, 09:26:24 AM
Beautiful build Gusty bhaiya!  :hatsoff:

BTW What is the wing loading and aspect ratio of this model?


Title: Re: 50CY-Scratch Built 50 CC High Winger
Post by: rcpilotacro on October 22, 2012, 10:33:55 AM
VC
I think what he meant was, what people call Scratch Built, here in the forum, is actually Plan Built, in the pure sense of the word and definition. for more on this read Manish's definition thread on IndiaRc


Rohit

Thanks, will get back to you with the answer