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« on: February 28, 2013, 03:27:02 PM »
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Hello All,
I was never tried for a Nitro Engine and decide to keep distance from nitro / glow engine because of cleaning, oil and other implications, but nitro models always attract me.
I found a old OS .46 FX engine and creates my interest to start scratch building from engine , which needs complete overhauling and adjustments of this engine.
This will also give me a understanding of RC engine and may be helpful to others also.
some pics of engine..

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I was expecting only Gum deposition and just wants to clean the engine, but both bearing was rusty and completed life.. Bang Head and heavy gum deposition inside of engine ..now i have no choice , i have to overhaul completely.


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OS used SKF bearings , but I could not found the same in market on time , so  I have changed both the bearings from local market ( Made in JAPAN) at the price of Rs 275. We can change the same bearing in NTN also.

Also changed the glow plug and start the engine , its start , but after heating up, compression was too low and not able to restart again early, so decide to change the sleeve and piston also.

I order the sleeve and piston of ASP S64M from hobby king and replace.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__13113__ASP_S46M_Cylinder_Piston_Set.html
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ASP piston has a small Piston pin hole at one side as compare to other, while the all pistons have same hole size of piston pin on each side.
We have to place a piston pin circlip in small hole and insert piston pin from big hole.
 

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Sleeve Pics

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You should change the entire set: Piston, Ring, Cylinder liner, Crank, Gudgeon Pin, Bearings and remember it is an ABC construction so will be tight initially.

If you use original OS parts, cost is nearly that of a new engine, but it will be as good as a new engine.
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BTW, if you get original NTN bearings they are good
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Thanks sanjay ji ,

I could not found the desired NTN Bearings and SKF has not introduced the bearings in after market. My one of friend is working in SKF only , but it will take the time , so just arranged the bearing from local market , will post the pics..

Original OS parts will cost more then a new engine( Piston / Sleeve – 35 Euro + Shipping ). Crankshaft and connecting rod was OK , so used the old.

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Use full Tips
•   We can remove both bearing easily by heating the crankcase on our house gas stove. Both bearing came out easily with out any hammering.
•   In this engine , two of head bolts lost the grip of of Ellen key , so I used a Drill Bit of same dia of Head Bolt and cut the head of both ( pl see pics).. we     
             can remove any ellen bolts by using this method.
•   Repair the Brocken back plate ( pl see pics)
•   DON’T use any thing except METHANOL to clean the engine, otherwise rubber parts will get swell.
•   Match the notch at sleeve with dowel in head
•   Position the aero mark on piston head towards exhaust
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Meanwhile, I also started the fuse construction ..here is the progress..
I am targeting maiden flight on Sunday..

Plans are available at Spadtothebone web site.

Used 3 mm coro for entire build.
Made a box of 6 x 2.5 inch from 3 mm ply and used 10 mm ply for firewall.
entire fuse , Rudder and elevator have double layer of coro.
used hot glue to fix rudder on fuse.

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Spadet's coming along well  Thumbs Up Thumbs Up  Be careful of weight!

I personally don't trust hot glue, but many swear by it

Sorted out the wing issues?
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Also, fit all control rods while the fuse is open, including throttle. Gets messy later Smiley
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Great work Mjet, the vert stab looks that of a swanky bizjet Wink
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Yesterday , Started the wing also , worked till late night  I got the round leading surface in second attempt after  instructions taken from you sanjay ji.
You are correct , the expected AUW may be around 2700 gms.
Thank Girish for encouraging words.

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Great Mohan. Be careful, your build is becoming too heavy!
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Sanjay Ji,

I have stopped the further building, because AUW may hit 3 Kg as i again recalculated the weight.

Till date progress - Wing has been Completed with servo and Fuse is almost complete accept forward cowl.

Pl advise , how can i reduce AUW in current Situation.
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Meanwhile, I also started the fuse construction ..here is the progress..
I am targeting maiden flight on Sunday..

Plans are available at Spadtothebone web site.

Used 3 mm coro for entire build.
Made a box of 6 x 2.5 inch from 3 mm ply and used 10 mm ply for firewall.
entire fuse , Rudder and elevator have double layer of coro.
used hot glue to fix rudder on fuse.

Mohan:

1. Fuse box: use 3 mm ply. Use minimum, ply is heavy! Only firewall is 6 mm. You need only 3/4 of fuse vertical ply formers
2. No need for doubling Corro
3. Make wing of 2 mm Cooro (but 3 or 4 mm Ailerons)

see my build http://spadworld.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14919&highlight=sanjayrai55
4. Buy a 1" hole saw and do "swiss cheesing" (make lightening holes)
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You could also get some idea from my Deb:  http://spadworld.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14919&highlight=sanjayrai55
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Wing completed - 3 MM coro
Wood Spur
Span - 64"
Chord - 10"
Used Fevibond only
Servo - Hitec HS-311
Total weight along with Servo - 825 Gm

Need suggestions – to reduce the weight , can I cut the white color portion at lower wing and upper wing.

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That is a wrong link

The correct one is http://www.rcindia.org/self-designed-diy-and-college-projects/spad-debonair-(modified-from-plans)-built-flown-successfully/

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Mohan, don't cut holes in the wing. I really don't understand why the wing is so heavy, can only be the wooden spars, for which ideally we should use light wood. I normally cut lightening holes in the spars.

But this weight is still OK if you can get the finished model < 2.5 Kg, a good weight
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May be 3 mm coro ,wood spur - 60' ( 5 mm thick)  , 6 nos  1.5 " screws are responsible for heavy weight.. ( 2 mm coro is not available )

can we cut the holes/ strips  in wing and cover it by tape ( as in balsa models)?
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It will make it structurally weak. Reduce all that ply in your fuse
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Sorry for a long gap. here is the pics of complete Fuse.

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Complete SPAD , ready for maiden flight.

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