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Title: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on April 20, 2010, 09:49:20 PM
Hi Guy's,
I have recently bought a brand new Krill katana 33% which is a Composite model. I will be staring a building thread and keep posting pictures if the building process. Hope you guys like it.

Toucan


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: anwar on April 20, 2010, 09:56:38 PM
Looking forward to that :thumbsup: 


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on April 20, 2010, 10:00:55 PM
sure


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: gauravag on April 21, 2010, 07:39:45 AM
Welcome Toucan,
Great to see you here.

Very nice to see people from North/Delhi joining RCI. Great stuff, and look forward to pictures/build here.
This bird is sure going to be pretty !


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on April 21, 2010, 08:38:22 AM
Ok Guys,
First of all thanks for all that encouragement. My set up would be as under:

Krill Katana 33 %
3W 110 CS i with canisters
Prop Mezjlik 28 X 10 Carbon
Spinner Mezjlik 4.5 "
Servos Aileron JR 8711 X 4 nos. 2 each aileron
Servos Elevator JR 8911 X 2 nos. 1 each elevator
Servos Rudder JR 8911 X 2 or may be one not decided as yet.
Servo Throttle Hitec 5945 or a 6975
Servo Choke Any Standard
Batteries Fromeco Liion 5200 mah X 2 nos.
RX Switch Fromeco Wolverine
Ignition Battery Fromeco LiIon 2600 mah X 1 nos.
SWB Arms All around with turn buckles

These are few pics upon my friends visit home, we just assembled the aircraft to appreciate it :






Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on April 21, 2010, 08:42:32 AM
I have done few things in the airplane of which I have no pictures. The work done is the canopy hatch alignment with phenolic lugs attachment and the cowl adjustment. But, what I can do is to put pictures of the work done with explanation of how I have done.


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: sriharishine on April 21, 2010, 10:49:03 AM
Good and Looking forward to see its flying.

Where did you brought it from?


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: gauravag on April 21, 2010, 11:14:13 AM
Lovely looking bird Toucan.
Will surely look majestic in the sky ! Hope to see it flying some day.
-G


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: vinay on April 21, 2010, 12:33:09 PM
does it have a different colour on the bottom?


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: ujjwaana on April 21, 2010, 10:23:05 PM
1142 Euros!! Jees!!!
http://krill-model.com/eu/en/index.php?id=kits&model=101


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on April 21, 2010, 10:43:26 PM
Thanks for all your comments. I am myself a dealer for Indian Subcontinent. So I imported myself.



Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on April 21, 2010, 10:45:52 PM
BTW its for 1527 Euros not 1142 Euros that's 28 %.



Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on April 22, 2010, 11:48:36 AM
Hello,
I have few pics of the work I have done on the stabs. The orignal method was to drill the whole on to the tube of the stab to hold it on to the fuselage. Instead what I did is to make carbon horns which will be glued inside of the stabs at the root rib and get screwed on to the fuselage side for a easy removal. I could not click pic. of the servo arm slot at the time of work.



Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on April 22, 2010, 01:54:26 PM
Some more pictures


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on April 22, 2010, 06:12:35 PM
Some more progress... this is too addictive >:D



Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on April 28, 2010, 05:06:55 PM
Ok Guy's :)

Found some time today and fixed the control Horn to the Left Elevator.  This is one of the most critical area's in the composite airplanes. You have to look for the hidden wooden block inside the Elevator, then see for the proper alignment with the push rod and the servo arm. Make correct location and then drill for the Control horn slots to seat in. Make sure you put sufficient glue inside.
 


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on April 29, 2010, 09:02:20 AM
Some more pictures on the Control Horn and servo assly. for the Stab Elev.



Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: anwar on April 29, 2010, 09:09:47 AM
Coming up nicely !

Is this the norm in larger size ARF planes that you have to find the location and cut out the covering at many places when you are installing the servos and linkages ? 

On the smaller ARFs, I have pretty much always seen that such location are pre-marked (and many times cut out), and the worst is to just cut out the covering material (in other words, the location is pretty much fixed).


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on April 29, 2010, 09:04:02 PM
Anwar,
This is a fully composite built airplane, which means the top skin which is usually a Monokote or  Oracover plastic film is replaced with the composite (Fiber Glass) laminate. Inside are wooden Ribs and Blocks to give Structure a shape and strength.

As composite is translucent in nature to figure out where is what is difficult. If u place in front of a light source u can see inside like a X ray film the Rib structure.

Thanks

Sharad


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: manyu on April 29, 2010, 11:26:47 PM
Wow .. Sharad.. Keep the pics Coming.. Just love the finish of your composites.. Safe landings...

What engine are you putting on it ?


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: medicineman1987 on May 01, 2010, 09:12:46 AM
That is a beautiful looking plane!


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on May 01, 2010, 10:39:00 PM
Thanks guy's, well I am planning a 3W 110 CSi 99%. I did some work on the Wing Servo enclosing pictures. Their are four servos on total 2 each wing. The servos are JR 8711 digital high torque 25 KG with SWB 2" arm's and 3.5" Titanium Turn Buckles. The wing servo instillation is fairly simple:

Their are 4 servo Bays already made having 4 servo mounting plates which are attached to the lower side of each wing with 4 screws. Simply unscrew the, servo mounting plates, drill holes and install the servo with supplied 4 self threading screws.     


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on May 01, 2010, 10:50:23 PM
This model making is too addictive. I started in the morning @ 9 am  (:|~ and finished almost around 2 hours back. The Krill Katana 33% comes with a Fiberglass Silver Carbon Finish, which some how I did not like much, so I cut it out >:D.....  It was a brave hart decision for me to take as it could have been a loss making decision if I would have cut the hatch instead of the Silver canopy.

Everything went well as I expected. Now the model has a Clear canopy. Will post pictures tomorrow.


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on May 03, 2010, 08:21:19 AM
Some more pictures


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on May 03, 2010, 04:29:11 PM
Guys check out some more pics. Things and idea's are coming up pretty well. I am really enjoying the building.


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on June 26, 2010, 11:38:06 PM
Guy's
have been tied up with work. Found some time yesterday and today. Posting some pictures of the work done. That rudder tray was a pain in  the a**.



Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: flatspin_king on June 27, 2010, 12:37:32 PM
that is one cool plane - keep the pics coming! Would be esp. interested in seeing your engine and canister set up. Toucan, where do you fly in Delhi - would be great to see this bird in action. 


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on June 27, 2010, 12:53:37 PM
Yeah,
I very much fly in Delhi, but grounded for past 5 months due to lots of politics around. I haven't got the engine as yet so it may take a month or more to show you setup. But if you want I have some pictures of the 50 cc with canister on. Do you fly in Delhi as well?



Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: anwar on June 27, 2010, 01:59:33 PM
Please post a picture of the rudder tray setup taken from the side.  Currently, it looks like arms of one servo is connected to the other.



Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 27, 2010, 02:06:11 PM
You are correct Anwar he is using 2 servos connected together.
http://www.jrradios.com/Articles/Article.aspx?ArticleID=1457


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 27, 2010, 02:09:27 PM
But I have experiance only with push and pull type connection with 2 servos. in this picture it looks like both servos will pull or push together.


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: flatspin_king on June 27, 2010, 04:01:53 PM
yes I fly at the Bhondsi field, and sometimes at Sohna - though I have not flown for more than a month due to work and also the extreme heat in Delhi. Waiting for some cooler weather to maiden my 50cc edge 540.
yes please do post some pics of your 50cc set up - both engine and radio compartment -if possible - it would be helpful for me since I am in the process of setting my plane up. thanks!     


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on June 28, 2010, 03:24:04 PM
I am attaching some pictures of my Krill Katana 28 % showing the canister setup. This airplane is powered by a 3W 55i CS.
 


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on June 28, 2010, 03:32:47 PM
Some more pics enjoy :)


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: flatspin_king on June 29, 2010, 01:43:03 PM
Thanks Toucan! Very clean install. 


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: saurabhhsrivastavaa on June 29, 2010, 02:03:28 PM
Wow !!! You've got works man !!! Impressive...  {:)}

If I may ask... How much did you spend on that beauty ? :headscratch: would appreciate the breakup. !!!  ;D


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: anwar on June 29, 2010, 03:11:02 PM
Missed these latest posts !  A very clean install indeed :thumbsup:



Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on June 29, 2010, 11:01:46 PM
Well thanks guys for your kind comments. The airplane cost Will be a shocking one which as under:

1. Krill Katana 28 % = 85000/-
2. 3W 55CSi with canister = 65000/-
3. JR 8511 servos = 5000 X 5 = 25000/- all control surfaces
4. JR 811 Throttle and Hitec 595 choke = 3000/-
5. SWB arms = 850 each X 5 = 4250/-
6. SWB Turnbuckles = 850 X 2 pairs = 1700/-
8. Batteries Fromeco LIion 2600 mah = 3200 X 3 = 9600/-
9. Fromeco Switch Dual in Dual out = 4200/-
10. Super Sahara = 3500/-
11. other accessories = 8000/-
12. Mezjlik 23 X 8 Prop = 4200/-
13. Mezjlik Spinner = 7200/-

Total= 220650/- ;)







Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 29, 2010, 11:09:48 PM
Great Bird {:)}
Perfect finish  :thumbsup:
Well done Man... Some video please  :)


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: bmanoj2 on June 29, 2010, 11:28:50 PM
How is the power supply to the servos. Are you using a regulator? :headscratch:


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on June 29, 2010, 11:34:26 PM
Thanks once again. I do not have any videos with me flown only 5 - 6 times. Fly's and tracks great no trim require during flight every thing just perfect. No CG adjustment. I had adjusted it laterally a bit . The voltage of the battery is around 8.2 v I am regulating it to 6.0v. Get around 15 kgs of torque each servo.



Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on July 04, 2010, 07:59:32 PM
Hi Guys,
Some more progress in the K33. Its a time consuming job. I have finally been able to align the cowl with the hatch and make vents for the engine. Cowl is half done. Enclosing 2 pictures with my so. Enjoy!



Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: anwar on July 04, 2010, 08:08:39 PM
Didn't quite realize that the bigger ones take such a prolonged effort. 

Why are the vents not factory cut ? To handle the possibility of various engine types ? If they are always going to be at the bottom, factory cutting would have made more sense, right ?


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Toucan on July 04, 2010, 08:24:32 PM
Anwar,
Every one has his own choice of making vents on a cowl. Mostly vents are at the bottom only. So its your choice what shape and size do wanna consider while making the vents. Different engines also matter in the design factor of the vents.

Sharad


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: flatspin_king on October 10, 2010, 05:21:09 PM
Toucan -are you planning to baffle the engine for cooling. Also another idea would be to make some louvers for the vents - to create low pressure to extract the air. Here is a link to an interesting discussion on the topic.
http://www.prme.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?p=506#506


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: sharlock on October 14, 2010, 05:48:54 PM
Is this the same plane that was test flown at the Amby Valley 2009 meet by Frazer Briggs "bogan" ?


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Harveer on October 14, 2010, 11:33:47 PM
Is this the same plane that was test flown at the Amby Valley 2009 meet by Frazer Briggs "bogan" ?
That was a Katana S 28% @ Aamby Valley....


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: sharlock on October 15, 2010, 12:13:59 PM
Yes thats right that was 28% Katana, Your Cap looks beautiful great you chose to scratch build it what engine did you use for this plane?


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Harveer on October 15, 2010, 11:01:53 PM
G-38 but li'll under powered, put it on Hanger 9 Cessna 182 95". I'll put DLE-55 on Cap 232 soon, which is in stock as well (:|~


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: gauravag on October 16, 2010, 10:53:59 AM
Harveer,
Sweet pictures. Great landing approach, Great plane and Flaps look awesome !


Title: Re: Krill Katana 33 % Extreme Blue Build thread.
Post by: Harveer on October 16, 2010, 11:28:28 PM
Harveer,
Sweet pictures. Great landing approach, Great plane and Flaps look awesome !

Thanx Gaurav...