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« on: October 10, 2010, 03:14:44 PM »
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Guys,
I had a strange experience today. I flew my Raptor in the morning for an entire tank, doing loops, rollls, and hovering and it was perfectly fine.

Then when I flew it after about 2 hours again, and attempted a loop, the tail sort of "kicked" on the back part - something i never experienced before.
Well the roll went OK , but on the stall turn, it again did - Was very nasty, and for a moment i thought that i was going to crash.

After that i did more hovering, and it was absolutely OK. I feel it was happening only on the stall turn  and roll.

Any ideas why it could happen ? I did check the belt tension and it wasnt too loose.

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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2010, 03:19:26 PM »
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have u grounded the tail boom?

if not do so, every belt driven tail need to be grounded, if not sooner or later crash
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2010, 03:23:48 PM »
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Well this happened on a Raptor 50 Nitro Heli.  Not sure if we need to ground on this ?
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2010, 03:27:31 PM »
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ok i thought it was a helicopter?
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2010, 03:31:25 PM »
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Oops. my bad. Yes it was a heli.
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2010, 03:35:58 PM »
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 Grin ok then u need to ground, some people have no problem but it is always there and a change of belt tension, new electronics , re routing a wire, a bit dryer day etc and if unlucky esd and restart of receiver or gyro freakout aso

best is always to ground even if u not having problem even tail case to boom if possible
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2010, 07:22:53 PM »
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Looks like its linked to RX battery (A123) issue. Will be posting a new thread for the same.
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2010, 12:23:04 AM »
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did u not feel that the tail had bad holding power and weak cyclic before the brown out, if it is the battery?
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2010, 10:15:07 AM »
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gaurav, do check the belt tension and missing teeth on the belt. its always better to troubleshoot a few areas before zeroing in.

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I checked the belt tension immediately after landing , and it was OK. I did not feel any loss of holding power before the event.
Notably, when i got back, i charged the A123 battery and it took 360mah to get it to full charged Which is OK for a 1-1/2 tanks of sport flying.
BUT, when i cycled the battery, by discharging it, i got ONLY 500mah. So it leaves me to conclude that only 150 mah remained, and the voltage dropped at the time of peak load - pulling out of the loop and at the stall turn ?

I have a new A123 pack in it now, that cycles to full capacity, and will take it to the field in a couple of days.

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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2010, 12:27:54 PM »
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150mah remaining!! phew....you should thank your stars for not attempting another flight with that. The tail would have more then kicked then. Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2010, 05:34:16 PM »
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Heli=Diff parts flying together in close formation



It could also be an issue with the Gyro, as you mentioned it only happens when you are doing a roll or a loop.

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