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« on: March 25, 2012, 12:59:03 PM »
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Hi,

Model : Beginner 450 Heli Kit - metal frame with belt-drive version
Class  : eCCPM 450 Heli
Seller  : www.RcBazaar.com

Specification:
● Length:660mm
 ● Height:230mm
 ● Main Rotor Diameter:700mm
 ● Tail Rotor Diameter:150mm
 ● Motor Pinion Gear:12T/13T
 ● Main Drive Gear:150T
 ● Autorotation Tail Drive Gear:106T
 ● Tail Drive Gear:25T
 ● Flying Weight:730~760g
 ● Package Weigth : 700g

Package contains:
• 450 kit x 1 set
• White canopy
• Mine included 325 Wooden 3DPRO Rotor Main Blades x 1 set
• Electronics NOT included


Items used in this build are:
•FS-CT6B 6ch 2.4GHz transmitter & receiver
• Aeolian 4000KV Outrunner Brushless Motor + 35A ESC Combo
• Aeolian s0009 9g Servo x 3
• EMAX ES08D Digital Servo x 1
• 450 20C 2300mAh-3CELL 11.1V LiPo
• HK-401 AVCS Gyro
• 325mm FiberGlass Main Blades (optional)

+ Pros
Easy to build kit
Comes with everything including velcro battery strap
Nice white gorilla gear

- ves
Weak fins (suggest replace with CF ones)

Overall
A very good kit, perfect for beginners. Most parts upgrade to Hiller 450 V2.
If you crash it, get another one Smiley

Cheers
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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2012, 01:02:07 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2012, 01:07:59 PM »
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I have upgraded the tail rotor to Hiller 450 V2's

The plastic one included with the kit is pretty good too.
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2012, 04:28:56 PM »
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Nice! It says 3D on it!! Is it 3D capable?
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 06:20:42 PM »
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Yes it is 3d capable

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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2012, 06:49:05 PM »
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yoho



so wats the difference between this and hk 450 pro belt drive version, is it only durability or anything more?
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@ dhaksha_dx

You are talking about two different heli's

This is a beginner version which has limited 3D capability, 450 Pro design is completely different can handle more bashing,
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2012, 07:19:16 PM »
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ok, so now im gonna be starting in helis , so which one should i go for, because i can get a pro for 3750, whereas this one costs 2500, so im thinking of going for the better one , so which one do u guys suggest
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depends on your budget, always look for spares availability  Pro for Rs 3750 ? where?

the electronics would cost you the same for pro and this one, except for servo's as this takes a plastic 9g servo,

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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2012, 07:47:50 PM »
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HObbyking,
and btw , cant i use plastic gear hxt 900s for cyclic on the pro belt version?
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Go for the best. Bigger the better, even a 500 would'nt be a bad idea if
your budget allows.

The Beginner 450 is just so perfect little kit, it demands attention.
It does the job. Its for those who want to take one step at a time, or a
perfect gift. Best part is if you decide to go to the next level , it allows - with
all parts upgradable to 450 V2 (except the spindle).

For me,I just couldn't resit the kits price when it was on sale Wink


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Suggest a better cyclic servo, something like AV90MG one available at RCB (out-of-stock now).
Point is you won't be replacing them for a very long time.
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hmmm. the 500 is definitely out of my budget,
so im thinking of going for the best in 450 size.
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thanks Satish for such a great review on the helis... (one comment when i saw your video; your heli seems to be drifting a little bit to the right maybe there are some cyclic interaction and might need to level the swash or just a bit of ail trim might do???)

dhaksha_dx
if this if you first time on helis then why don't you go for the basic version of the Hiller which is rs 1500 kit (infact we might even put this on a promo soon so that its more attractive to beginners like you.  this could be a two day offer at much below cost price like rs 990 only... we still need to finalize this with the team if its feasible for us or not but will announce this soon)... anyways coming to the point you as a first timer will definitely crash if not today then tomorrow so don't invest large right now. learn to hover and get the feel of the heli first with nose-in's, side hovers, circuits and then invest in a bit expensive heli and get into 3D.. these are my 2 cents worth.. call is yours..

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Thanks sajju.

Thats fine observation, I have'nt had chance to fine-tune this heli, just enjoying short hover spells when i get time. Will check.

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i would totally agree with sujjus opinion,
please let me know when the heli is for sale for 990Rs, coz i dont wanna miss such a bit, well in fact as you said, i dont want to waste money on a pro heli. lol
and make sure u keep one sky surfer reserved for me Cheesy
coz , im gonna be buyin that before i get into helis Smiley
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I am also interested in the basic model offer. Would like to give it a try on helis this time Cheesy Will look forward to this.
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sir can u give me the setting for 450 heli . for  Turnigy 9X 9Ch Transmitter (Mode 1) (v2 Firmware)
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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2012, 09:10:23 PM »
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even i need it for flysky th9x
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Hi Sujju,

Since I also have a Hiller 450, I must say that it definitely in 'right up there' with respect to build quality and over all function. I have the one with carbon fibre frame.

I will be posting some videos shortly for all you folks, however, I must admit that over the years, I have flown a wide variety of 6 channel electric helis, ranging from Walkera 22E, to esky HB King II, Esky Belt CP, HK 450, Storm 450. So, In terms of the quality of workmanship on Hiller kits is definitely excellent.

They come together with a lot of precision, and function quite predictably in flight. Thank you for making this hobby far more accessible withing the country and I look forward to a whole lot more folks enjoying these helis soon. Smiley

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thanks a lot Amit for this and hope to get more of these type of products soon at an affordable price here...
our next plan is to get a good FBL system and also some 600 - 700 sized helis but have still not cracked the pricing from the suppliers.. once its done we will get this soon...

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Hi Sujju,

That is definitely a wonderful news, I would love to have one of the 600's for sure. By the way, posting the video as tried to capture one today. It is also posted at another topic on this site, yet posting the same here, since it has the Hiller 450 (White canopy) which is a delight to fly  Smiley



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wow that is some good video of the helis... can i get your permission to have them uploaded on our facebook page and on our website?Huh? (would be great if you can send me separate vids of the hiller 450 sport and the hiller 500 as i can place them both on the site).. pls let me know ..

also satish can i also request you permission to have this video of your heli on our facebook page and website?... pls let me know if this is ok or not?

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http://rctech.blogspot.in/2011/03/turnigy-imax-9x-tx-hk-450-setup.html
I used this settings for  450 with flysky th9x
hope this will be helpful for other beginners
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Sure Sujju, I would be happy to support  Smiley.

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hi satish this is imran from lucknow
i am new to rc helicopters dont know any thing about them although after scratching a bit on net i decidid to buy hiller 450 pro belt driven .plz suggest me how to buy and what to buy . i checked on rcbazaar ther stock is over for the electronics they dont give with this heli. plz tell me from where you have bought those electronic parts thanx.
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 Clap great video r u the one flyin that
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hi imran
stocks will be in store by next week

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As sajju mentioned, looks like RCB has re-stocked most of it - so go ahead and order from their website www.rcbazaar.com

It's difficult to suggest when you're a biginner. Anyway, if you want to start i'd suggest the beginner 450, which is a great buy, less expensive. A PRO version would be ideal once you've got enough knowledge about 450 CCPM's, how to set them up correctly and how to control. I bet you won't regret starting with the cheapest. Ofcourse, all electronics are easily switchable from the beginner 450 to say 450 v2/PRO i suppose. So go ahead buy the best electronics i.e. Brushless motor, ESC, Servos, Battery, Tx-Rx & Gyro + beginner 450. Follow sajjus videos. Once you know it's not a toy Smiley then go ahead and order your true 450 - you'll never regret.

Here's your list
Beginner 450 kit - http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/1074-hiller-beginner-450-ccpm.aspx
Motor - out of stock i guess
ESC - http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/804-avionic-40-amp-esc.aspx
Cyclic Servos - http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/794-aeolian-s0009-9g-servo.aspx or http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/799-avionic-metal-gear-9g-servo-av90mg.aspx
Rudder Servo - http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/1304-avionic-12g-digital-servo-av12d.aspx or http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/797-avionic-25g-hi-speed-digital-servo-av9257.aspx
Battery - http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/1266-wolfpack-2200mah-3s-20c.aspx
Gyro -http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/790-g105-head-lock-gyro.aspx
Tx-Rx - http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/396-fs-ct6b-6ch-24ghz-transmitter-receiver.aspx or http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/397-fs-th9x-9ch-24ghz-transmitter-receiver.aspx

Or simply order the RTF http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/1352-hiller-beginner-ready-to-fly.aspx
+ Transmitter & Receiver

Hope that helps.
Yes that's me in the video Smiley the first one
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My pleasure sajju.

Sorry for late response.
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Programming the Turnigy 9x for a Trex 450 setup can u tel me Huh?Huh?Huh?
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@ akash chitmitwar
this link may help you out
http://rctech.blogspot.in/2011/03/turnigy-imax-9x-tx-hk-450-setup.html
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