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« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2011, 11:17:18 PM »
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Problem 1 is NOT a problem if you are using a heading hold gyro in HH mode.  If you put the gyro in rate mode, it will return immediately. 

For issue [2], I believe what you described seems normal.  The manual of your ESC should tell you the expected beep responses, and how the cycle of programming ends.
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« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2011, 11:56:26 AM »
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HI Anwar,

I have solved the issue with ESC programming...

but not able to setup the gyro to rate mode, I'm using turnigy 9x Tx/Rx  and dont find option gyro mode under gryo setup in the transmitter. Please correct me if wrong..
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« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2012, 02:34:29 PM »
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« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2012, 10:11:56 AM »
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hi,

I have one issue.  I was tuning the cyclic on my 450V2 heli. The is one discrepancy in the elevator setting, elevator stick full forward gives me a pitch of 5 degrees where as when the stick is full backwards, i get a pitch of 6 degrees.

Is this fine? if not how do i correct it ?  Head Scratching

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« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2012, 11:32:40 AM »
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This issue can be fixed by playing with your travel adjust settings or from the swash mix menue.
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« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2012, 01:50:01 PM »
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This issue can be fixed by playing with your travel adjust settings or from the swash mix menue.
I don't think that the above will resolve the issue as playing with the end points will also effect collective and ail cyclic. Also the swash mixing will affect both the ends of the cyclic pitch unless you want 5.5 deg in both ends.  My doubts here is that your swash is not level at all the centre or also pls recheck tracking on both the blades first.

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« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2012, 02:49:33 PM »
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Thank you sir, i'll check and let you know. one more quick question, is it necessary to check if swash is leveled at throttle center ?

i thought we check the swash level at "throttle minimum" and "throttle maximum" and make adjustments using the sub trims. Swash interactions at the center may not be level because of different servo interactions at different levels ? (cyclic servos moving differently at different throttle levels) Please let me know.

I'll track the blade and get back.

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« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2012, 03:03:31 PM »
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hi Srivatsa... the swash has to be level at all points of travel.. be it top or mid or bottom.. (min these 3 points atleast)... ideally the swash should be level even between these point but its very difficult to to this and for accuracy many people use the bubble level method and place it on the flybar paddle as it amplifies any small abberations on the swash movement... and the swash has to be level in the centre as your cyclics measurements have to be taken when its at the centre...

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« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2012, 03:20:23 PM »
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Thank you sir.. I think i missed checking at the center. i'll check and get back.

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« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2012, 01:53:16 PM »
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Hi,

I found some time yesterday and tried tracking the blades. It looks "ok". I also found the Heli spins very badly. The plane of rotation or the Main blades wobbles. I have captured the video hope it helps you guys to diagnose the problem.

Video 1


video 2


Next,i'll open the head and check for swash level.

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« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2012, 03:28:12 PM »
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Tracking seems to be great.
Pls increase the gain on the radio of the gyro if this does not work reverse the dir (direction) switch on the gyro and it will hold the heli.
Regarding the wobble I don't get the query. Pla give pm me your telephone number and I will call you

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« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2012, 05:17:25 PM »
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Heli=Diff parts flying together in close formation



You need to balance your main blades to remove the wobble Thumbs Up
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« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2012, 12:49:25 PM »
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Regarding the wobble I don't get the query.

Sorry for the late reply.. sir, in that video blades keep moving up and down.
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Left end goes up Right end goes down ,
Right end goes up Left end goes down. [Like a see-saw].

This is was i was referring to as wobble. i have pm'ed my telephone number. i think we have spoken once Smiley
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The blade disc tilt seems to be moving around synchronously when the tail is going around. Which just means that your skids and blade disc is not in the same plane. This is common, nothing to worry about. Make sure the swash is level ie perpendicular to the main shaft, that is all that matters.
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« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2012, 01:36:33 PM »
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if this does not work reverse the dir (direction) switch on the gyro and it will hold the heli.

yippee , reversing the DIR on the heli worked , thank you for that suggestion  Salute .. i pushed the throttle to 25% and no spinning. i'll take it outdoor and see how it flies. i'm a newbee in RC itself leave alone heli. After crashing the heli indoor last time (and bruising myself ).. too scared to increase the throttle .. i'l take it out door and try to hover atleast a feet above ground. its taken a good 6 months to get this heli back working..   Tongue
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Pl get yourself a training gear before you start attempting to fly this thing. It helps a lot. And pl be careful about flying this indoors. I would advise against it totally. Its too dangerous. Even outdoors, pl make sure that you have enough space around.  Hate to be an alarmist but helis are vicious flying objects with a mind of their own!
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« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2012, 07:02:36 PM »
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thanks for that advice Pradeep, yeah I fly with training gear on. my heli is unstable Head Scratching without that I might crash every 10 min  Tongue  , its tough to control. i have practice flying on Sims, but actual flight differs a lot. its lot tougher to control.
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Guys,
I usually practise with training gear on. Today I noticed that when trying to Hover just above ground, because of training ball skid, heli starts vibrating. I'm getting a feeling without the training gear, heli might be more stable. I'm in dilemma, to remove or not to.

Any thoughts and experiences on this?

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If you are a bit confident on hovering throw away your training gears and you will be happy you did this.

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I'll try doing that Smiley

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Guys,
because of training ball skid, heli starts vibrating. I'm getting a feeling without the training gear, heli might be more stable.

it does not seem to relate... the vibration are from rotatory objects and not from some thing stationary like the training gear.... might be it is making the vibration worse  but what is the reason for vibration.

check  for bent shaft , loose  swash plate,  or  loose servo-control  push rods....

sujju bhai will  be able to  elaborate...!!
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or even the blades could not be balanced etc... and the training gear amplify this visually as your will see the training balls wobbling a lot... finally also i hope you have a good headspeed as low head speed will also cause this

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