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« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2009, 09:11:32 PM »
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Hi Rotor.
Yes im flying the Mini Titan now.The things got me really turned on for these rotary wonders.have ordered for metal upgrades too for the MT Grin.so now was thinking to upgrade to something bigger in size.
The compass models Atom 500 seems to be the right choice as far as electrics are concerned but thought might as well try out a nitro heli(even bigger size).Moreover the price difference is also minimal i think.am confused Huh?
Skill level-starting to learn forward flight.
BTW still waiting for that inevitable first crash Grin
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« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2009, 10:14:43 PM »
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A 50 size nitro heli (Raptor 50, Trex 600N) or a 500 class electric heli (Atom 500, Trex 500E) are both pretty significant investments.  If you are sure that finding nitro fuel is going to a severe long term problem, then I would say that you should go for the 500 electric ones.  Their size is pretty good, and perform almost as well as the 50 class ones.

The primary reason I am recommending them is that they allow you to graduate further.  Just like you want to move from MT325 to something bigger, you will feel bored after just doing simple forward flights on a 50 size nitro heli pretty soon (I mean without any nitro).  With the 500 electrics, you can start doing sport (loop, roll etc) or 3D flights at no added expense.
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« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2009, 10:21:31 PM »
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Anwar has replied while I was typing, anyway here goes....

Didn't you start just a month or so ago ? You seem to be progressing nicely. Since you have been flying planes you'll go through FF stage quite easily. In that case I estimate you'll start craving for power in another 2 months. So if you can source nitro or synthetic ready made fuel, go for nitro heli. If you can't, then better go for electric.
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What is a good absolute begginer indoor heli?

After watching Aravind and gang flying, I have started liking Helis. He suggested a Esky brand, RTF with all included. About 6-7K. Guess it also comes with a simulator. Any other suggestions? My intention is just to get the hang of the controls and possibly hand over to my son. I may not go further as my interest is more or less fixed in cars.
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Esky Lama v4. 

Get a metal main shaft upgrade, and one or two extra sets of blades. 

The v3 has a tail which looks like trusses, and are easily broken off in crashes and very hard to fix back permanently. So get the v4 with a single piece tail.

Others like the Esky Comanche are also good.
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« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2009, 03:52:58 PM »
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Here is a video that shows the capabilities of a Raptor 50 Titan.

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« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2009, 06:17:28 PM »
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How is the E325 PRO ARF PLUS for a newbie ? I bought the Raptor 50 kit a few months back, though i am not sure if i am ready for it yet, since i have no experienced flier around me, and i will need to self-learn.
Rotor has this for around 20k http://rotor.co.in/show-detail.asp?prodid={2A6B41CA-12EE-49C6-84B4-A0DC85B91F13}&pn=1

Do you think it would be a good one to start off with ? I guess i will need to buy some extra battery packs, but that shouldnt be a problem...
Any other better options for similar price ? Something i can buy and get started without too much building ..
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« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2009, 07:58:01 PM »
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Do you want to miss out on the opportunity to do a heli build ?  Roll Eyes

If you do not want to build it yourself at all, then this is a good option. I am not sure how careful they are with the build (not sure if Rotor folks do it or TT folks themselves).  I would consider getting it build by someone like Rajesh/RotorZone, as a slight carelessness in the build can be quite disastrous later on.  Our member Santhosh got it build by RotorZone, and it was a good experience (I got the chance to do some minor radio settings tweaking later on it).

If you are planning to build from a kit, you can also consider the CopterX AE V2 kit.
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« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2009, 08:41:44 PM »
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Well, i want to do a Heli build, and am keeping the Raptor 50 for that. However since i am not flying airplanes till we get the notice over to airforce, i might use the time to learn flying heli at the park in front of my home. At this point i do not want to spend a lot of time building, as the weather is ideal for flying, and i might be able to learn flying helis this season. Now, Rotorzone, whats the best deal you can give me that i can go ahead with and start flying ASAP ?  my budget is 20k and i want a good heli, that is properly assembled , and ready to fly. I have my Futaba 10C with rx so apart from that need everything else.
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Good decision that you are trying to get proper authorization for the flying field.  Although it involves some sacrifice initially, it does help the hobby in the longer term  Clap  Hope this ends up like a proper setup followed in Jakkur / Pune.

Regarding the E325, it is a PM transaction between Rotorzone and you now Wink
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« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2009, 11:50:08 PM »
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The mini titan comes assembled from the factory. I have checked out the ARF version which includes the radio and found it was setup pretty well. However since you are planning to use your own radio, you'll still have a lot of setting up to do. This may also involve changing the link lengths.

I was planning to write on the setup steps on my Atom build thread. But that got derailed in between. I take a good amount of time on my setup, but it is worth it when you get a heli that flies true without a single click of trim.
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If the initial build is done by TT factory itself, it should be fairly good (as it is their reputation on the line).  Yet, I wonder why there were belt issues etc with the one that PremVijay got.

We can help you with radio setup. It is a bit involved but something that can be achieved over couple of hours on Skype Grin May not be without any trim at all, but fairly stable.
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« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2009, 10:03:34 AM »
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I'm not sure what rotor.co.in sells, but the ones I have seen are assembled from the factory. They are not without faults though. For example, on the  Raptor 30 RTF, I have seen the tail pin come out, a well known problem in the Raptor, but still not fixed by TT. Some such minor upgrades/tweaks could be expected. So far I'm not aware of any such thing about mini Titan.
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I was more concerned about not using thread-lock glue properly, not cleaning parts that have oil in them with something like isopropyl alcohol, so that threadlock can work properly, over tightening of screws causing them to strip... those kind of things (as compared to problems that are more of "design issues"). 

I have seen parts fly off or come loose on helis built by beginners many times  Sad
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« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2009, 09:01:44 PM »
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I found from Rotor today, that the e 325 pro is factory built with all servos and motor in place. All I would need to do is mount the rx and attach the tail boom and FLY !!!
Now do you think this would make a good entry level setup ? What else would I need to buy ?  I have only the charger and radio.
Was thinking of getting the training gear and pitch gauge ...
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Sounds like a good setup.  Just be careful with how you setup the tail.  Now I also realize why Prem had issues with the tail setup, as it was probably done by him and it is easy to overlook small details (I was under the impression that everything including the tail came setup from either the factory or from Rotor).

The training gear definitely puts your mind at ease for the very first hovering attempt.  Of course, you should have a steady hover in a sim first, which I assume you already have  Smiley

The pitch gauge is definitely needed to ensure a proper setup.
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Going ahead with this. How much of a flight time would i get ( approx ) with the 2200mah 11.1V Lipo ?
I intend to do only hovering as the first step.
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Heli=Diff parts flying together in close formation



With a 2200mah 11.1v zippyflight max you get around 8- 10 mins of hover

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Sorry I missed this thread earlier. 

Yes, about 8 to 10 minutes, and slightly longer if you are doing circuits (with proper throttle curve setup).  Hovering puts slightly more load than forward flight. Some people report 12 to 14 minutes (partly depends on the brand/quality/condition of lipo used).
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