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« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2010, 02:17:05 PM »
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Hey medicineman, nice to come across a fellow RC enthusiast from Goa!

rotor.co.in seems to be a nice site, but I still haven't been able to find a 4ch Single Rotor Heli. If anybody knows a seller, I'd really appreciate the help!

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« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2010, 02:19:41 PM »
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Also another quick query guys.. Is there a lot of difference in flying a 4ch coaxial rotor like the link I posted below and a 4ch single rotor like the Honey Bee?

http://www.rotor.co.in/show-detail.asp?prodid={2E9D7A4E-6821-4BEC-972E-BB0029F30998}&pn=1
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« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2010, 02:21:41 PM »
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Medicineman, my apologies too if I sounded offended. No offence taken at all, my friend. I just want to be careful.

Just a point here - the Heli was maidened by a very experienced pilot, who perhaps did not want to take the risk of damaging a brand new model (especially since it didn't belong to him) and insisted on my creating a training gear. I was only following instructions! Grin

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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2010, 02:32:17 PM »
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Hey medicineman, nice to come across a fellow RC enthusiast from Goa!

rotor.co.in seems to be a nice site, but I still haven't been able to find a 4ch Single Rotor Heli. If anybody knows a seller, I'd really appreciate the help!

Thanks!

Hey Anish, there are lots of RC enthusiasts in Goa actually but none of them seem to be on this forum.. As i said there is some guy in N.Goa who flies helis but they cost like 50 grand plus i think  Sad I can try n get his contact for you..

Also another quick query guys.. Is there a lot of difference in flying a 4ch coaxial rotor like the link I posted below and a 4ch single rotor like the Honey Bee?

http://www.rotor.co.in/show-detail.asp?prodid={2E9D7A4E-6821-4BEC-972E-BB0029F30998}&pn=1

Even i had this dilemma when i was in my "i need a heli badly" phase (thankfully i got over the phase n am concentrating on my plane now).. Wouldn't it make more sense to buy a 4ch coaxial instead of a 4ch fixed pitch single rotor?? Although i guess learning on the single rotor it would be easier to progress to more complex models.. coaxials pretty much fly themselves and when you progress to more complex models it will be a huge jump.. Am i correct?
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« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2010, 02:46:58 PM »
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Wouldn't it make more sense to buy a 4ch coaxial instead of a 4ch fixed pitch single rotor??

It is typically a cost versus longevity trade-off.  Coaxial ones are much less twitchy, and are therefore easier to fly and less prone to crashes.  On the flip side, any one would outgrow them really fast (in a matter of days even).  You can make life with coaxial ones interesting by trying to do maneuvers like "figure 8s backwards" which helps you polish your flying skills.  Even then, their long term charm is severely limited. 

The other factor is indoor versus outdoor.  Most coaxial ones are built for indoors (except for some like the Big Lama), and they also affect their utility.

If you develop a steady hand by training rigorously on a sim, go for a single rotor (either FP or CP).
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« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2010, 02:58:13 PM »
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Anwar bhaiyya, how much more maneuverable is a FP heli over a co-axial? As in what kind of extra stuff can you do with a FP heli (as compared to a coaxial)?
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« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2010, 03:01:25 PM »
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The difference is huge. In fact, coaxial helis are considered "toys" (as opposed to "rc helis") by many in this hobby.  And it is this maneuverability that makes them harder to fly, and prone to crashes.
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« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2010, 03:26:06 PM »
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I would rather feel stupid after reading your post than sit back with a crashed Heli that is irreparable due to my lack of expertise.
hi vc,
I tried to put training gear on my coaxial but it made my gyro go crazy and add to unnecessary weight.

1. The coaxial is certainly to give you a great learning curve
2. It will definately crash but they are very easy to repair , mostly CA
3. I can also suggest you to practice the throttle by take off from Hand rather than ground.
    Saves battery and breakages

So i also suggest to remove the training gear, instead you can put a bed sheet on the ground and it will cushion any crashes.
I have gone through 1 new and 2 coaxials (used) from Prem vijay.
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hi mate.
this looks like just what you need
New 4CH 2.4GHz Walkera Wolf CB180Q as in the link above.
 if you find one without the fuselage [body] they are easier to repair [pod and boom style]
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hi guys,
what can you do with a fp single rotor heli?


you can perform internal/ external funnels Wink wi
and some have even loop the loop. .......need plenty of hieght............
proper FFF and stall turns etc
but yes far more versatile than a coaxial..........
but hey dont trash them.................. I have two .an 'esky  big lama' and an 'esky lamav3' in an airwolf fuse Smiley .)
and a coax military chanook Smiley..thats 3  Head Scratching
so for fun and rainy days a coax in the front room......for seriouse learning a fixed pitch single rotor in the garage or garden in light wind Smiley
nearly forgot. .......great to learn nose in hover with a coaxial.....cheaper than helicommand Smiley
 and works the same.......let go the sticks it recovers itself......if setup right that is Smiley Smiley
for those not into hovering a nose in hover learning is realy learning the 'reverse commands' on the radio rather than learning 'the heli' . so a sim or coaxial will teach you nose in hover .Wink Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2010, 10:16:39 PM »
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hi mate.
this looks like just what you need
New 4CH 2.4GHz Walkera Wolf CB180Q as in the link above.
 if you find one without the fuselage [body] they are easier to repair [pod and boom style]
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I just received a quote for the Walkera HM CB180D RTF 2.4G 4CH Metal Upgrade with a nice LCD screen on the transmitter for 10k.

Also the 4ch Honey Bee 2 was the same price.

I really like the Walkera. It's built out of metal, looks solid and the LCD is a neat added touch. What about Walkera spares, are they easily available?

And is 10k a fair price to throw down on a 4ch or am I being taken for a ride?

Thanks!
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hi mate.
you will have to check a couple of different india sellers and then see the prices.
walkera spares should not be a prob they are big company, but check with the seller to see if they 'stock' the spares.
 that is more to the point 'who stocks' the spares.
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Thanks Don, that's exactly what I'm looking for.. Any more help on who stocks Walkera/Esky spares?
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Hey Anish, there are lots of RC enthusiasts in Goa actually but none of them seem to be on this forum.
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You are right even i saw some people in ponda who flew helis.

BTW i stay in Dona Paula.
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you stay at dona paula?? wow! lucky you Smiley
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BTW i stay in Dona Paula.

Hey!! i hang out at Dona Paula all the time.. Pretty close to my hostel.. Maybe we can meet up..

There is a gentleman in Ribandar who's into heli's.. He's not on this forum though..
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