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Title: Importance of flybars !
Post by: Sahevaan on June 27, 2010, 11:12:02 AM
Check this out people ! A very interesting article about flybars




http://www.rchelimag.com/pages/howto.php?howto=37&page=1


Title: Re: Importance of flybars !
Post by: anwar on June 27, 2010, 11:38:22 AM
It will be a world of flybarless helis pretty soon ;)


Title: Re: Importance of flybars !
Post by: Sahevaan on June 27, 2010, 09:17:17 PM
Talking about the present , it doesn't seem so because the price's make a huge hole in your wallet . Hope the prices reduce . Though FBL's have con's too .. They make the heli less responsive to the cylics


Title: Re: Importance of flybars !
Post by: anwar on July 11, 2010, 02:17:58 PM
Looks like flybarless is becoming more and more common, and coming to simpler helis too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avwP8CRpoy4


Title: Re: Importance of flybars !
Post by: sujju on July 11, 2010, 03:12:06 PM
Talking about the present , it doesn't seem so because the price's make a huge hole in your wallet . Hope the prices reduce . Though FBL's have con's too .. They make the heli less responsive to the cylics

i tend to disagree on this... fbl's are very responsive.. the have a roll rate of 360 within a second... i am using the skookum, mikado v bar and now a mikado mini v bar and absolutely happy with it... infact i am glad i got rid of the flybar...
- less cost of spares
- very stable (heli stays where you want it to)
- cost is not "very prohibitive" (when you calculate the cost of a good gyro and a rx... and yes spares)...
- longer time of flight ( i got almost 14 mins on basic hovering on my 500...  :o... i was quite amazed myself)

with fbl units like the microbeast, skookum 360 ( i got this for usd 130 from a guy on runryder and works perfect on my trex 500).. sjgd brand new ones are lesser than usd 200... long term it makes sense... and i think FBL is they wayforward and you might see the flybar's being obselete soon...


Title: Re: Importance of flybars !
Post by: vinay on July 12, 2010, 08:42:58 AM
Totally agree with sujju, they are getting cheaper day by day and improves flight times.

BTW just wondering how does the mikado's built in tail gyro perform compared to big players like GY 520, DS 760/quark?  :headscratch:


Title: Re: Importance of flybars !
Post by: sujju on July 12, 2010, 09:51:26 AM
am very happy with it... the tail axis gyro is perfect.. there are some great features like the tail compositions and pyro optimizations...example.. in flybar when you do a pyro the heli tends to lift or fall a bit depending you are doing a clockwise or a CCW pyro... the mikado optimimzes this and gives and removes the elevator inputs and keeps the heli in a perfect pyro...
in the tail comp, when you give you collective the tail servo starts acting up and gives +ve or -ve pitch to the tail depending you are give +ve collective or -ve collective... again the heli is dead straight when you give fast pitch pumps... try one vinay, and am sure you will like it... i started of with a sk 360 but this requires a tail gyro.. very easy set up...

its a little bit different flying... in flybar you expect the heli to drift and move but in fbl it stays "there"...

Totally agree with sujju, they are getting cheaper day by day and improves flight times.

BTW just wondering how does the mikado's built in tail gyro perform compared to big players like GY 520, DS 760/quark?  :headscratch: