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Title: Micro (~10") glider
Post by: lastRites on June 03, 2012, 08:48:36 AM
Hi all :)
I got tired of studying all day and decided to build a gider with what I had on hand. Built one with some coro and a cycle spoke. Got about a 100feet with a hearty hand launch :P

Now having been bitten by the glider bug I have some questions  ;D

Is there any way of giving my glider a little more lift?

I did not take any measurements while making this, are there any definite ratios between the wingspan and the fuse that have to be maintained?

Does anyone has any plans for sub 15" gliders which can be made without using any exotic (:P) materials like carbon fiber or balsa?

thanks!
Trishit


Title: Re: Micro (~10") glider
Post by: Bilal on June 03, 2012, 09:00:24 AM
Good job Trishit :thumbsup: that glider looks great.
And as far as i know, gliders have an aspect ratio of 7~9:1
(Aspect Ratio= span/chord)
cheers:)


Title: Re: Micro (~10") glider
Post by: Pradeep on June 03, 2012, 09:29:36 AM
beautiful oneee Trishit......  {:)} {:)} {:)} {:)}.. what you could do is just add a small strip on top of the wing abut .5 cms width along the leading edge and she should give u more lift....  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


Title: Re: Micro (~10") glider
Post by: Pikle6 on June 03, 2012, 10:08:06 AM
hi trishit

there has been a lot of interesting work done by Kline and Fogleman on multi Step airfoils which might greatly help the glider to generate more lift

that is exactly what pradeep has also mentioned

here is the link if you wish to read up more on them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kline%E2%80%93Fogleman_airfoil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kline%E2%80%93Fogleman_airfoil)

more importantly refer to the two pictures attached they shall help you choose the right the KF airfoil for the glider

just another note of caution due to the excess lift generated the nose of the glider is likely to lift up and stall so you might want to add a little bit more nose weight if this happens.

Subbu  


Title: Re: Micro (~10") glider
Post by: lastRites on June 03, 2012, 11:57:47 AM
Thanks! I was looking into KF airfoils too but don't you think the wing would become a little too heavy having two layers of coro?(I am using 3mm coro)


Title: Re: Micro (~10") glider
Post by: coderbanna on June 03, 2012, 12:08:54 PM
put depron layer on top instead of coro


Title: Re: Micro (~10") glider
Post by: lastRites on June 03, 2012, 12:28:48 PM
Depron is very hard to come by here :P I am thinking about putting thermocole..


Title: Re: Micro (~10") glider
Post by: coderbanna on June 03, 2012, 01:31:32 PM
let me tell you a trick, go by your party craft store and purchase the foam plates for party :) they are made of depron, purchase that doesnt have design in them that is plain bottom. :)


Title: Re: Micro (~10") glider
Post by: VC on June 03, 2012, 01:49:42 PM
Some info on Depron / Bio Foam picnic plate gliders:


http://www.rcindia.org/chatter-zone/depron-chuck-gliders/msg16871/#msg16871

http://www.rcindia.org/rc-general-topics/aeromodelling-classes/msg14857/#msg14857


Title: Re: Micro (~10") glider
Post by: Pikle6 on June 03, 2012, 02:10:54 PM
you might also try an uncambered airfoil like the one on GWS slowstick if you are unable to source depron the airfoil on mr. moss is also a good example. also a polyhedral will help


Title: Re: Micro (~10") glider
Post by: lastRites on June 04, 2012, 05:45:52 PM
Thank you all! I built another one with a dihedral wing and v tail. Flies quite well! Will post pics later!


Title: Re: Micro (~10") glider
Post by: KALYANPRODHAN on June 04, 2012, 10:14:20 PM
My small efforts posted earlier
http://www.rcindia.org/self-designed-diy-and-college-projects/my-smallest-total-home-made-rubber-power-glider-incl-prop

http://www.rcindia.org/kites-trains-free-flight-and-all-others/16-cm-wingspan-rubber-powered-plane-%28lt1hr-time%29/

http://www.rcindia.org/self-designed-diy-and-college-projects/again-another-4-inch-glider/

http://www.rcindia.org/kites-trains-free-flight-and-all-others/rubber-powered-glider-with-icecream-stick/

http://www.rcindia.org/kites-trains-free-flight-and-all-others/sunday-try-glider-complete-from-thermocol-plate/

http://www.rcindia.org/kites-trains-free-flight-and-all-others/colorful-paper-glyder-print-cut-glue-fly/

and some classification is here
http://www.rcindia.org/rc-general-topics/aeromodling-decipline-fai-%28types-of-model-sub-classification%29/

Thanks