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Title: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: parichya.gautam on October 04, 2012, 05:59:06 PM
Hey everyone , this is Parichya here ( 3rd Year B.Tech Mechanical ) . I and my friend are planning to make a QuadCopter from scratch ( buying the parts , building up etc ) . I just have a very vague and a general idea about the stuff so joined this Site for a better in-sight . I would REALLY appreciate if someone can guide me through the complete process . Thanks a lot and hope someone comes up :)


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: Dharmik on October 04, 2012, 06:07:54 PM
Please have a look at here
http://www.rcindia.org/multirotors/tutorial-how-to-build-multirotor-from-scratch/
It might give you some idea setting up the quadcopter. Second part will be added soon.


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: parichya.gautam on October 04, 2012, 06:09:48 PM
oh this is perfect :) , but still can i still keep asking if i need to ? I am really excited about the project ! :D


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: satyagupta on October 04, 2012, 07:29:06 PM
And you can buy stuffs from here www.quadkopters.com :p


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: parichya.gautam on October 04, 2012, 07:30:53 PM
i was actually liking RCBazaar :P


Title: Help ...
Post by: parichya.gautam on October 06, 2012, 01:52:12 PM
I am gonna make a new QuadCopter with my friend . Am new and very passionate about this :D

So , these are some stuff i plan to get for the project , Please tell if any alterations are to be done or if you have some better suggestions :)

1> The FRAME :

http://www.ebay.in/itm/X525-V3-Quadcopter-Frame-/110953329652?pt=IN_Toys&hash=item19d55573f4#ht_666wt_1139



2> Props.

 (4X)     http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/289-electric-flight-prop-11-x-7-e.aspx

                                             OR

            http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/1217-quadcopter-propellers-8-x-45.aspx

Any difference between 3-Blade and 2-Blade or others ? and is the dimension correct ?



3> MOTORS :

   http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/1474-odin-2627-kv1500-thrust-700gms.aspx

                                                  OR

   http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/1479-odin-3130-kv1000-thrust-800-gms.aspx

Why the strange price difference ?



4> Misc. stuff i'm not sure about :

http://www.rcbazaar.com/category/89-motor-parts-mounts.aspx

http://www.rcbazaar.com/category/47-escs-becs.aspx

http://www.rcbazaar.com/category/67-servos-servo-parts.aspx

http://www.rcbazaar.com/category/68-gyros.aspx

Please help me out on this one ...



5> Transmitter :

http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/396-fs-ct6b-6ch-24ghz-transmitter-receiver.aspx

Suits my Budget ...  ;D



6> Battery :

http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/1258-kingmax-4200mah-25c-74v.aspx



7> Charger :

http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/992-wolfpack-b3ac-2s3s-compact-charger.aspx

OR

http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/1333-imax-b6-lipo-battery-chargerdischarger.aspx








So , thats what i have in mind ... Please any suggestion will be helpful :)



Admin note: Merged with your existing thread.


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: SunLikeStar on October 06, 2012, 02:32:38 PM
Why don't you buy this kit instead?
http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_103_108&products_id=1080

It has everything you need, you just have to add your radio.


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: parichya.gautam on October 06, 2012, 02:35:23 PM
Good option ... will the transmitter i mentioned above work with this ?


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: SunLikeStar on October 06, 2012, 02:41:15 PM
Yes it will work fine, but soon you will want to upgrade to a more advance radio which would allow you to program exponentials and throttle curve. But should be good enough to start with.
And BTW you'll have to buy a charger also.


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: parichya.gautam on October 06, 2012, 02:44:55 PM
ok ... thats fine ... the charger i mentioned , its fine ?


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: parichya.gautam on October 06, 2012, 02:50:04 PM
http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=102_96&products_id=156

... this is cheaper .. will it do ? ( i am on a budget )  ;)


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: SunLikeStar on October 06, 2012, 03:41:52 PM
Yes of course, any lipo charger will do.


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: parichya.gautam on October 06, 2012, 03:47:34 PM
Perfect :D ...
Few queries :

1> Ok , now if use the 4000mAh battery instead of the one in the kit ... will it be fine ? ( Less voltage i guess )

2> Can you please shed some light on the PROGRAMMING part that has to be done in the copter ? a lil detail if you dont mind :)

3> Will there be any difference if i reverse the fans ? ( Sucking air from up and throwing it down - but the motor in upside down position ... something like THIS : http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo256/bobdezandbouwer/Y6%20Hexacopter/IMG_2759.jpg )

please reply .. this thing is like drugs ... SO ADDICTIVE  !!! :D


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: Dharmik on October 06, 2012, 04:09:43 PM
Hey Parichya bro, please go with readymade combo as admin SLS suggested. You will need radio, charger etc. You can use 6ch radio but if you want to stay in this hobby then go with good quality radio. More mAh means more flight time, just like bigger fuel tank but big tank has more weight and it(4000mAh lipo) will take more time to charge so you should also consider that. The picture you linked is called Y-6 our forum member dreamfly sir has built one like that. For quadcopter having motors mouted upside down not recommended. Rough landing might damage props and motors so go with standard setup.


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: parichya.gautam on October 06, 2012, 04:14:39 PM
I'm just a student know thats why i cant extend my budget bu a lot .. so ill go with the 6 Channel transmitter only ( For now ) , but trust me , one day when ill be earning , m gonna make something massive :D .... OK , for now , what'll your suggestion be ? ... get that kit ? and the stuff ... ? .... BTW , how much backup will the battery in the kit will give ?


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: SunLikeStar on October 06, 2012, 04:18:09 PM
The battery which comes with the kit is a perfect match should give you more than 5 mins flight time, 4000mAh is heavy, for your first bird you should always try to build as light as possible.
The kit comes with KK Multicopter Control Board which already has quad firmware loaded so no programming required. But you can change the firmware later if required using the USBasp AVR Programming cable that comes with the kit. There are many videos oh youtube on how to update firmware.
The picture you have posted is of a Y6 copter; different from what you are trying to build; a quad copter.

 


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: parichya.gautam on October 06, 2012, 04:23:05 PM
NO PROGRAMMING !!!!??? OMG ! AWESOME !!! .... :D ....

OK , so things are getting clearer now ... :)

So , what is it like ill just assemble the stuff and it will work ... or there is something more to it ?


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: Dharmik on October 06, 2012, 04:32:08 PM
By default KK board comes with quadcopter plus firmware preloaded so yes you have to assemble it, however it's just 50% work done. Rest 50% is to learn flying and it might take some time. If you are determined go and grab the combo.


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: parichya.gautam on October 06, 2012, 04:35:29 PM
Thats totally cool !! ... GAWD I AM EXCITED NOW !! :D ..

One thing though , how will the Copter link to the transmitter that ill buy ?


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: Dharmik on October 06, 2012, 04:44:30 PM
The transmitter will be linked to the receiver wirelessly. You will get receiver with your TX.


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: parichya.gautam on October 06, 2012, 04:45:22 PM
.. ok .... so its just connect the wires and it'll fly ??


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: parichya.gautam on October 06, 2012, 06:30:07 PM
bump ... :P


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: parichya.gautam on October 08, 2012, 03:44:55 PM
I'm Finally going to buy "

1> http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_103_108&products_id=1080

2> TRANSMITTER :

 http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/396-fs-ct6b-6ch-24ghz-transmitter-receiver.aspx

3> CHARGER

http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=102_96&products_id=156
OR
http://www.rcbazaar.com/products/992-wolfpack-b3ac-2s3s-compact-charger.aspx



QUERIES BEFORE I FINALLY TAKE THE JUMP :D

1> I am not sure in the Charger dept. will it work with the battery provided in the kit ?
2> Is it true that its plug and play types ?
3> Will the software ( AEROFLY PRO ) be of any help as the transmitter has a USB port too ?
4> Some license stuff is to be done for buying the transmitter ?

PLEASE DO REPLY :D ... AND THANKS TO YOU GUYS FOR EVERYTHING :D


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: Dharmik on October 08, 2012, 05:33:06 PM
1. The battery comes with your combo is 3S so both chargers will work.
2. It's a kit
3. No idea what you are trying to say about aerofly pro but transmitter is computer programmable and programming cable and software CD comes with it. If you want to use it for simulator then you will have to buy simulator cable separately.
4. Yes you will have to provide it. Check rcbazaar's page.
Let me clear few things. The word "plug and play" is not suitable here in this case. It's combo of perfect configuration so you don't have to buy things separately and no more hassle to select right motor-prop-esc-battery etc. You will have to be ready to do some DIY stuff at home like soldering connectors etc. I see bullet connectors and male to male connectors not listed in the combo so you will have to buy them separately. If you really need something plug and play then check FOR SALE section, some ready to fly mini quadcopters are available here. So finally it's upto you bro.


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: parichya.gautam on October 08, 2012, 05:37:59 PM
thanks a lot , this was helpful :)

So , you suggest that i get the connectors too ? ... A link to them ? ( i would be highly thankful )

And yes , the DIY stuff .... will i be getting some sort of manual for it .. or i'm on my own ?


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: Dharmik on October 08, 2012, 10:17:28 PM
You will need 3.5mm bullet connectors to connect motor and escs and male to male connectors to connect FC to the receiver. Please check Satyagupta or Adiboy bros topic in for sale section.


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: parichya.gautam on October 08, 2012, 10:21:57 PM
Any i can get from the 2 links ?

1> http://www.rcbazaar.com/category/143-connectors.aspx

2> http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=56

?


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: Dharmik on October 08, 2012, 10:31:51 PM
Here what you need bro
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=21758
http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=56&products_id=741


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: parichya.gautam on October 08, 2012, 10:36:34 PM
it has to be 3.5mm ONLY ??
rest were out of stock ..

http://www.rcdhamaka.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=56&products_id=37

This will do ?


Title: Re: A QuadCopter from scratch .
Post by: parichya.gautam on October 15, 2012, 05:22:07 PM
bump ...